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I'll bet by the 3rd quarter the stadium was half empty.
na there were a few left
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No, he’s with the colts. He wanted to stay here but Berry preferred Winston for some unfathomable reason.
I think it was Watson's confidence/feelings.
With they being said, it's hard to come away from this loss with the sense the Browns are further away than many thought.
The collapse at each tackle created a chain reaction of chaos in the OL. I'm not sure Chubb would've faired much better.
It sucks feeling like they need two tackles AND a QB.
I think it was Watson's confidence/feelings.
With they being said, it's hard to come away from this loss with the sense the Browns are further away than many thought.
The collapse at each tackle created a chain reaction of chaos in the OL. I'm not sure Chubb would've faired much better.
It sucks feeling like they need two tackles AND a QB.
There was no chance they were going to bring back a guy who proved as popular as Flacco was. People en masse are not going to start chanting Winston's name if Watson struggles, but I guarantee it would have happened with Flacco, probably as early as today.
I'm also convinced that Flacco would have got sacked 12 times today. Same thing for the guy down in Tampa who couldn't outrun a cop.
I think Watson physically and mentally is damaged goods, and I also think Stefanski has no business trying to run a RPO offense. THIS is an interesting thought moving on, considering how few college QBs take most snaps from under center. There are a lot more Deshaun Watson-types coming out of college now than pocket passing Joe Flaccos. (Who really is a good fit in Stefanskis preferred offense).
Stefanski is a "young" head coach, but IMO has zero feel for the prevalent offense of today.
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what were fords numbers ? did he really suck as much as i thought he would ?
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what were fords numbers ? did he really suck as much as i thought he would ?
Jim Brown wasn't gaining yards behind this OLine today.
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I think it was Watson's confidence/feelings.
With they being said, it's hard to come away from this loss with the sense the Browns are further away than many thought.
The collapse at each tackle created a chain reaction of chaos in the OL. I'm not sure Chubb would've faired much better.
It sucks feeling like they need two tackles AND a QB.
There was no chance they were going to bring back a guy who proved as popular as Flacco was. People en masse are not going to start chanting Winston's name if Watson struggles, but I guarantee it would have happened with Flacco, probably as early as today.
I'm also convinced that Flacco would have got sacked 12 times today. Same thing for the guy down in Tampa who couldn't outrun a cop.
I think Watson physically and mentally is damaged goods, and I also think Stefanski has no business trying to run a RPO offense. THIS is an interesting thought moving on, considering how few college QBs take most snaps from under center. There are a lot more Deshaun Watson-types coming out of college now than pocket passing Joe Flaccos. (Who really is a good fit in Stefanskis preferred offense).
Stefanski is a "young" head coach, but IMO has zero feel for the prevalent offense of today.
There was no chance they were going to bring back a guy who proved as popular as Flacco was. People en masse are not going to start chanting Winston's name if Watson struggles, but I guarantee it would have happened with Flacco, probably as early as today.
I'm also convinced that Flacco would have got sacked 12 times today. Same thing for the guy down in Tampa who couldn't outrun a cop.
I think Watson physically and mentally is damaged goods, and I also think Stefanski has no business trying to run a RPO offense. THIS is an interesting thought moving on, considering how few college QBs take most snaps from under center. There are a lot more Deshaun Watson-types coming out of college now than pocket passing Joe Flaccos. (Who really is a good fit in Stefanskis preferred offense).
Stefanski is a "young" head coach, but IMO has zero feel for the prevalent offense of today.
100% agree
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behind this OLine today.
we had everyone there except the LT. it was crap showing from ford, fuck him
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behind this OLine today.
we had everyone there except the LT. it was crap showing from ford, fuck him
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Ok ?
Ford sucks,Strong is a better RB
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I'll bet by the 3rd quarter the stadium was half empty.
Lots left at the beginning of the 4thQ.
Just awful. No excuse for being so flat.
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Ok ?
Ford sucks,Strong is a better RB
Ford sucks,Strong is a better RB
I like Strong better too. I like Ford ok too, but l think the wheat from chaff test leans Strong.
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I think it was Watson's confidence/feelings.
With they being said, it's hard to come away from this loss with the sense the Browns are further away than many thought.
The collapse at each tackle created a chain reaction of chaos in the OL. I'm not sure Chubb would've faired much better.
It sucks feeling like they need two tackles AND a QB.
There was no chance they were going to bring back a guy who proved as popular as Flacco was. People en masse are not going to start chanting Winston's name if Watson struggles, but I guarantee it would have happened with Flacco, probably as early as today.
I'm also convinced that Flacco would have got sacked 12 times today. Same thing for the guy down in Tampa who couldn't outrun a cop.
I think Watson physically and mentally is damaged goods, and I also think Stefanski has no business trying to run a RPO offense. THIS is an interesting thought moving on, considering how few college QBs take most snaps from under center. There are a lot more Deshaun Watson-types coming out of college now than pocket passing Joe Flaccos. (Who really is a good fit in Stefanskis preferred offense).
Stefanski is a "young" head coach, but IMO has zero feel for the prevalent offense of today.
There was no chance they were going to bring back a guy who proved as popular as Flacco was. People en masse are not going to start chanting Winston's name if Watson struggles, but I guarantee it would have happened with Flacco, probably as early as today.
I'm also convinced that Flacco would have got sacked 12 times today. Same thing for the guy down in Tampa who couldn't outrun a cop.
I think Watson physically and mentally is damaged goods, and I also think Stefanski has no business trying to run a RPO offense. THIS is an interesting thought moving on, considering how few college QBs take most snaps from under center. There are a lot more Deshaun Watson-types coming out of college now than pocket passing Joe Flaccos. (Who really is a good fit in Stefanskis preferred offense).
Stefanski is a "young" head coach, but IMO has zero feel for the prevalent offense of today.
Stefanski is a young HC. I’ll buy that there may be some square peg/round hole shit with Watson and that it might not ultimately work out, but l think Stefanski will be better off for it and he’s the guy to bet on and invest in and l’ll fight you if you disagree.
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I like Strong better too. I like Ford ok too, but l think the wheat from chaff test leans Strong.
Strong seems to be very obviously a better runner, but maybe they don’t trust his ball security or something
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There was no chance they were going to bring back a guy who proved as popular as Flacco was. People en masse are not going to start chanting Winston's name if Watson struggles, but I guarantee it would have happened with Flacco, probably as early as today.
I'm also convinced that Flacco would have got sacked 12 times today. Same thing for the guy down in Tampa who couldn't outrun a cop.
I think Watson physically and mentally is damaged goods, and I also think Stefanski has no business trying to run a RPO offense. THIS is an interesting thought moving on, considering how few college QBs take most snaps from under center. There are a lot more Deshaun Watson-types coming out of college now than pocket passing Joe Flaccos. (Who really is a good fit in Stefanskis preferred offense).
Stefanski is a "young" head coach, but IMO has zero feel for the prevalent offense of today.
Stefanski is a young HC. I’ll buy that there may be some square peg/round hole shit with Watson and that it might not ultimately work out, but l think Stefanski will be better off for it and he’s the guy to bet on and invest in and l’ll fight you if you disagree.
Stefanski is a young HC. I’ll buy that there may be some square peg/round hole shit with Watson and that it might not ultimately work out, but l think Stefanski will be better off for it and he’s the guy to bet on and invest in and l’ll fight you if you disagree.
Stefanski seems completely baffled in attempting to run an offense that practically every high school can figure out how to run now.
He's a play-action, run kind of heavy, multi-TE at times offensive guy.
The Browns sold their souls on a guy who doesn't fit Stefanski's offense and whose head coach has zero idea how to replicate the offense that does.
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There was no chance they were going to bring back a guy who proved as popular as Flacco was. People en masse are not going to start chanting Winston's name if Watson struggles, but I guarantee it would have happened with Flacco, probably as early as today.
I'm also convinced that Flacco would have got sacked 12 times today. Same thing for the guy down in Tampa who couldn't outrun a cop.
I think Watson physically and mentally is damaged goods, and I also think Stefanski has no business trying to run a RPO offense. THIS is an interesting thought moving on, considering how few college QBs take most snaps from under center. There are a lot more Deshaun Watson-types coming out of college now than pocket passing Joe Flaccos. (Who really is a good fit in Stefanskis preferred offense).
Stefanski is a "young" head coach, but IMO has zero feel for the prevalent offense of today.
Stefanski is a young HC. I’ll buy that there may be some square peg/round hole shit with Watson and that it might not ultimately work out, but l think Stefanski will be better off for it and he’s the guy to bet on and invest in and l’ll fight you if you disagree.
Stefanski is a young HC. I’ll buy that there may be some square peg/round hole shit with Watson and that it might not ultimately work out, but l think Stefanski will be better off for it and he’s the guy to bet on and invest in and l’ll fight you if you disagree.
Stefanski seems completely baffled in attempting to run an offense that practically every high school can figure out how to run now.
He's a play-action, run kind of heavy, multi-TE at times offensive guy.
The Browns sold their souls on a guy who doesn't fit Stefanski's offense and whose head coach has zero idea how to replicate the offense that does.
I have to agree with Dutch at this moment, #4 seems lost in himself and I am not sure if Coach Paul Brown could bring him out of his doldrums.
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Stef like many in the business can call a better game when the offense is on schedule 2nd and 5…third and short. He can even get too cute sometimes borderline stupid on 3rd and short too. Admittedly I didn’t see the final half but we played right into their hands with third and long. We had a couple huge drops early and then Watson didn’t help himself later.
Now, If we can’t get a consistent run game going this year…this team is in trouble. Playaction has been and will always be a huge element.
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Stefanski is a young HC. I’ll buy that there may be some square peg/round hole shit with Watson and that it might not ultimately work out, but l think Stefanski will be better off for it and he’s the guy to bet on and invest in and l’ll fight you if you disagree.
Stefanski seems completely baffled in attempting to run an offense that practically every high school can figure out how to run now.
He's a play-action, run kind of heavy, multi-TE at times offensive guy.
The Browns sold their souls on a guy who doesn't fit Stefanski's offense and whose head coach has zero idea how to replicate the offense that does.
Stefanski seems completely baffled in attempting to run an offense that practically every high school can figure out how to run now.
He's a play-action, run kind of heavy, multi-TE at times offensive guy.
The Browns sold their souls on a guy who doesn't fit Stefanski's offense and whose head coach has zero idea how to replicate the offense that does.
I think Stefanski is proving to the world that #4 isn’t as good as his contract. That kind of money should be for a guy that can run ANY offense.
This regime has bent over backwards to get Watson the players, and coordinators and he still SUCKS.
HE WON’T THROW THE BALL!!!!!!!!!!Stefanski got the Browns to the playoffs with Baker and Flacco. Watson, at this point, is NOWHERE NEAR them
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I’m not hanging this loss solely on DW (even though he contributed).
He was running for his life most of the time, and when he wasn’t overthrowing his target and hit the receiver on the hands…they would drop it.
This pic was the 4th and 4 in the 4th quarter, which he didn’t convert.
That was when I felt the air go out of the game.
And no…I’m not OBJ’s dad. ?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Coming into today I personally saw this season as a losing one (picked the Browns to go 7-10) due to our lack of talent at QB, our best player (arguably) not being able to play a full season while completely unsure if he will resemble what he once was (if anyone can, it's Nick) as well as a very tough schedule.
^ That being said, it's not going to be easy to watch, but it's one that probably has to happen in order to have the 1/4 billion dollar mistake finally be someone else's problem.
Hopefully I'm just full of shit and don't know what I'm talking about, but I never saw a snap after the midway point of quarter 3 today and have a really bad feeling for what awaits.
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I just hope the Deshaun Watson trade doesn’t end up looking worse than than the Bryce Young trade. At this point it appears a toss up.
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