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  • was this something already disclosed to the league office ?  we do not know. better wait and see

  • sydS syd

    was this something already disclosed to the league office ?  we do not know. better wait and see

    @syd said:

    was this something already disclosed to the league office ?  we do not know. better wait and see

    I will say it is interesting that it surfaces now all of a sudden... Even though I think Defraud is a dip shit... It could be likely he's being set up... Just a hunch on either end...

  • Wait a bit for actual facts to come out on this. Florio is a gossip columnist with a NFL football website.

    He calls himself an "instigator."

    Not saying this story has no facts to it, but Florio is the last person I would get info from about ANYTHING. Mike Florio is the most non credible human on the planet.

    @packernation said:

    Wait a bit for actual facts to come out on this. Florio is a gossip columnist with a NFL football website.

    He calls himself an "instigator."

    Not saying this story has no facts to it, but Florio is the last person I would get info from about ANYTHING. Mike Florio is the most non credible human on the planet.

    Exactly.

    Florio has never ever written or spoke anything bad about the Houston Texans' blatant enabling of DW to commit these "massage crimes." 

    Watson certainly was his own worst enemy, but remember the Texans set up his hotel rooms. How they got to keep those 3 #1 picks remains a complete mystery to me ( I'm not saying the Browns should have them back).

    Regarding the "new allegations," I suspect a cash grab. 

    This whole NFL "discipline" thing is a complete sham. Racheed Rice still playing, no reprimand for wreckless driving, almost killing people, and Josh Gordon was suspended nearly 3 seasons for smoking weed. Makes no sense.

  • Come on guys - this is just a classic “she said she said she said she said x 21 more she said vs he said!”. The best thing that could happen is this somehow leads to the exempt list. Also, relevant Chappelle:

  • @syd said:

    was this something already disclosed to the league office ?  we do not know. better wait and see

    I will say it is interesting that it surfaces now all of a sudden... Even though I think Defraud is a dip shit... It could be likely he's being set up... Just a hunch on either end...

    @nickers said:

    I will say it is interesting that it surfaces now all of a sudden...

    Right?!  I mean, where's this woman been?  Did he just unchain her from the bedpost or something?   I don't like the person that Watson is either but Geesh...

  • Rumor has it that Houston ownership/management initiated the first volley of accusations as a negotiation ploy aimed at making him undesirable to other suitors and it got out of hand.  Could the Browns be playing one of the last cards in that deck? He had to have known about this prior to 4:25 yesterday.

  • This allegation is very fucked up even if it’s partially true.

    Void his contract and donate the remainder to women’s shelters in the Cleveland and Houston area, without the cap hit.

  • @nickers said:

    Ditch DeFraud already... I'm sick of this on going saga...

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/deshaun-watson-is-sued-for-sexual-assault-and-battrey

    This encounter sounds more like Flugel and Dutch, especially when it mentioned vagina!

    Seriously, if you substitute the word Flugel for Doe, and Dutch for Watson, this story sounds a lot more. believable.

  • @nickers said:

    Ditch DeFraud already... I'm sick of this on going saga...

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/deshaun-watson-is-sued-for-sexual-assault-and-battrey

    This encounter sounds more like Flugel and Dutch, especially when it mentioned vagina!

    Seriously, if you substitute the word Flugel for Doe, and Dutch for Watson, this story sounds a lot more. believable.

    @ghoolie-always-ghoolie said:

    This encounter sounds more like Flugel and Dutch, especially when it mentioned vagina!

    Seriously, if you substitute the word Flugel for Doe, and Dutch for Watson, this story sounds a lot more. believable.

    We're both living rent-free in that head of yours, aren't we Ghoolie Always Ike Turner? ?

    Ooh, let's get more of those so terribly interesting "Shitpanski is a coffee fetcher" posts out of you! Sooner than later, you'll be shitting yourself in a nursing home and all your "Shitpanski" posts on here will become deliciously ironic, Ghoolie Always Chris Brown... 

  • AxeA Axe

    Rumor has it that Houston ownership/management initiated the first volley of accusations as a negotiation ploy aimed at making him undesirable to other suitors and it got out of hand.  Could the Browns be playing one of the last cards in that deck? He had to have known about this prior to 4:25 yesterday.

    @axe said:

    Rumor has it that Houston ownership/management initiated the first volley of accusations as a negotiation ploy aimed at making him undesirable to other suitors and it got out of hand.  Could the Browns be playing one of the last cards in that deck? He had to have known about this prior to 4:25 yesterday.

    I've always thought the whole timing of the allegations was very, very interesting regarding the Texans. And this coming out right after a horrible opener is, well, what conspiracy theories are made of. 

  • @syd said:

    was this something already disclosed to the league office ?  we do not know. better wait and see

    I will say it is interesting that it surfaces now all of a sudden... Even though I think Defraud is a dip shit... It could be likely he's being set up... Just a hunch on either end...

    @nickers said:

    I will say it is interesting that it surfaces now all of a sudden... Even though I think Defraud is a dip shit... It could be likely he's being set up... Just a hunch on either end...

    It happened allegedly in Oct 2020, so would the league apply stuff for one that far back that seems bent on destroying a career? And where was this person when the others from that time got settled?

  • I would love to get rid of Watson, but....unless there's some sort of proof of this assault I don't see anything happening. I despise the stupid trade. Likely the worst trade in the history of all sports, and I've never liked Watson or considered him to be an elite qb. But....if this is a fabricated accusation, whoever initiated it, should be put away. Anybody can accuse anybody else of anything with no proof.

  • @syd said:

    was this something already disclosed to the league office ?  we do not know. better wait and see

    I will say it is interesting that it surfaces now all of a sudden... Even though I think Defraud is a dip shit... It could be likely he's being set up... Just a hunch on either end...

    @nickers said:

    I will say it is interesting that it surfaces now all of a sudden... Even though I think Defraud is a dip shit... It could be likely he's being set up... Just a hunch on either end...

    Who knows Nicks?  Right now, I seriously wonder if that shoulder should even be medically cleared to play.  Did anyone see his throwing motion or overall mechanics Sunday?  Sometimes it looked like a chicken wing trying to throw a football.  The thought of Crablegs starting doesn't excite me at all.  One of the last seasons he started in Tampa he threw 30 INTs that year.  He's finished goods.  After what I saw from DTR this preseason, he made accurate mid to deep throws that sailed on him last year.  In other words, the lad has worked at his craft.  That said, I usually don't put a lot of stock in pre-season success.  For example, Caleb Williams found out the opener was a lot more challenging than the preseason vanilla against players that are hoping to make practice squads. 

    Last year, DTR had a humbling beginning against the Ratbirds when he was told the morning of the game "you're stating Kid  - go get him."  That might have been fine if he practiced at all with the starters during the week of preparation.  They have one of the most complicated defenses (the even Michigan won a National Championship using) for a rookie with 0 preparation to take on.  However, when he came in vrs the Steelers.  He had to lead an offense that wasn't doing much on the ground to game winning points with very little time left.  The margin of error for him was down to 0 - or better put, 1  mistake by him means Browns lose.  He made all the throws while knowing where and when to scramble.  He led us to the game winning points. He improved.  

    If Phipps didn't fail - we might not have ever learned Brian Sipe had an NFL MVP season in his/our future.  That wasn't overnight by any means but the learning process seems a bit more accelerated these days for whatever the flock it's worth.

  • lol, this last accuser is clearly a haslam plant. Dumb strategy from the haslams as it will require the NFL to suspend him (they won't because they still want to punish Jimmy for this contract), AND will require the right outcome in the courts. Jimmy would be better off making it look like Deshaun had an autoerotic asphyxiation "accident." Not a single person would suspect foul play. 

  • AxeA Axe

    Rumor has it that Houston ownership/management initiated the first volley of accusations as a negotiation ploy aimed at making him undesirable to other suitors and it got out of hand.  Could the Browns be playing one of the last cards in that deck? He had to have known about this prior to 4:25 yesterday.

    @axe said:

    Rumor has it that Houston ownership/management initiated the first volley of accusations as a negotiation ploy aimed at making him undesirable to other suitors and it got out of hand.  Could the Browns be playing one of the last cards in that deck? He had to have known about this prior to 4:25 yesterday.

    Well said!  It'll be very interesting to see what happens.  The fact that Houston has been heavily rewarded for all this (when the guy was actually their employee when it all went down) doesn't seem right at all.

  • @axe said:

    Rumor has it that Houston ownership/management initiated the first volley of accusations as a negotiation ploy aimed at making him undesirable to other suitors and it got out of hand.  Could the Browns be playing one of the last cards in that deck? He had to have known about this prior to 4:25 yesterday.

    I've always thought the whole timing of the allegations was very, very interesting regarding the Texans. And this coming out right after a horrible opener is, well, what conspiracy theories are made of. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I've always thought the whole timing of the allegations was very, very interesting regarding the Texans. And this coming out right after a horrible opener is, well, what conspiracy theories are made of. 

    I've been saying/writing that for 3 years!!!!

    Look, where there's smoke, there's fire. DW definitely has issues, no doubt. 

    Cliff notes, if you will....

    • The Texans said he'd be involved in their GM search. They lied and hired somebody without DW input....he pouted, held out, then the smear campaign began. 
    • Busbee, the next door neighbor to the owner, is put in charge of "erasing DW"
    • Haslam, in his quest for SB glory, once again wants the "shiny new toy," probably because DePodesta said it was a good idea. 
    • Haslam signs off on over paying
    • So much media attention on the dumb Browns doing this, especially nationally. Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk goes on a crusade (that's still going on btw) taking shots at Cleveland
    • The TEXANS get to keep the three #1 picks despite ENABLING DW with his hotel rooms. The only "punishment" they received was a 5th round pick taken away on some weird technicality

    Hmmm.....any guesses as to where this latest allegation came from? Yeah, Tony Busbee. 

    In no means am I endorsing the move to get DW. We all know it was dumb. Haslam was willing to take that chance- he simply doesn't know how to win, how to run a pro franchise. 

    Damn folks. We are all here because we're Browns fans. Unfortunately, we've experienced some real shitty ownership with our favorite team. 

    I could go on & on about the NFL and their stupid player punishment design. Bottom line, it's we CLEVELAND fans who are more upset about the punishments than DW or Josh Gordon. 

    Is this crap ever going to end?

  • This allegation is very fucked up even if it’s partially true.

    Void his contract and donate the remainder to women’s shelters in the Cleveland and Houston area, without the cap hit.

    @bbedward said:

    This allegation is very fucked up even if it’s partially true.

    Void his contract and donate the remainder to women’s shelters in the Cleveland and Houston area, without the cap hit.

    No, not Houston, sorry. They escaped this debacle with Goodell's blessing...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I've always thought the whole timing of the allegations was very, very interesting regarding the Texans. And this coming out right after a horrible opener is, well, what conspiracy theories are made of. 

    I've been saying/writing that for 3 years!!!!

    Look, where there's smoke, there's fire. DW definitely has issues, no doubt. 

    Cliff notes, if you will....

    • The Texans said he'd be involved in their GM search. They lied and hired somebody without DW input....he pouted, held out, then the smear campaign began. 
    • Busbee, the next door neighbor to the owner, is put in charge of "erasing DW"
    • Haslam, in his quest for SB glory, once again wants the "shiny new toy," probably because DePodesta said it was a good idea. 
    • Haslam signs off on over paying
    • So much media attention on the dumb Browns doing this, especially nationally. Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk goes on a crusade (that's still going on btw) taking shots at Cleveland
    • The TEXANS get to keep the three #1 picks despite ENABLING DW with his hotel rooms. The only "punishment" they received was a 5th round pick taken away on some weird technicality

    Hmmm.....any guesses as to where this latest allegation came from? Yeah, Tony Busbee. 

    In no means am I endorsing the move to get DW. We all know it was dumb. Haslam was willing to take that chance- he simply doesn't know how to win, how to run a pro franchise. 

    Damn folks. We are all here because we're Browns fans. Unfortunately, we've experienced some real shitty ownership with our favorite team. 

    I could go on & on about the NFL and their stupid player punishment design. Bottom line, it's we CLEVELAND fans who are more upset about the punishments than DW or Josh Gordon. 

    Is this crap ever going to end?

    @bob806 said:

    I've been saying/writing that for 3 years!!!!

    Look, where there's smoke, there's fire. DW definitely has issues, no doubt. 

    Cliff notes, if you will....

    • The Texans said he'd be involved in their GM search. They lied and hired somebody without DW input....he pouted, held out, then the smear campaign began. 
    • Busbee, the next door neighbor to the owner, is put in charge of "erasing DW"
    • Haslam, in his quest for SB glory, once again wants the "shiny new toy," probably because DePodesta said it was a good idea. 
    • Haslam signs off on over paying
    • So much media attention on the dumb Browns doing this, especially nationally. Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk goes on a crusade (that's still going on btw) taking shots at Cleveland
    • The TEXANS get to keep the three #1 picks despite ENABLING DW with his hotel rooms. The only "punishment" they received was a 5th round pick taken away on some weird technicality

    Hmmm.....any guesses as to where this latest allegation came from? Yeah, Tony Busbee. 

    In no means am I endorsing the move to get DW. We all know it was dumb. Haslam was willing to take that chance- he simply doesn't know how to win, how to run a pro franchise. 

    Damn folks. We are all here because we're Browns fans. Unfortunately, we've experienced some real shitty ownership with our favorite team. 

    I could go on & on about the NFL and their stupid player punishment design. Bottom line, it's we CLEVELAND fans who are more upset about the punishments than DW or Josh Gordon. 

    Is this crap ever going to end?

    Remember and let's not forget Haslam was the man who screwed customers out of rebate money then selling Pilot J to Alan Greenspan.. Haslam has no core values.. He is pure trash...

  • @bbedward said:

    This allegation is very fucked up even if it’s partially true.

    Void his contract and donate the remainder to women’s shelters in the Cleveland and Houston area, without the cap hit.

    No, not Houston, sorry. They escaped this debacle with Goodell's blessing...

    @bob806 said:

    No, not Houston, sorry. They escaped this debacle with Goodell's blessing...

    Not only that but consider this Bob...If Watson lays another egg on Sunday.. They go into the bye I believer after that... Someone will correct me either way.. But the point being.. He's losing.. If not already has lost the locker room.. Guys will start chirping and saying.. "Why should we bust our ass for this asshole" This would segue in giving Crab legs the start... This team could literally implode!.. And Watson could get this entire regime fired... This situation is getting volatile...

  • @bob806 said:

    No, not Houston, sorry. They escaped this debacle with Goodell's blessing...

    Not only that but consider this Bob...If Watson lays another egg on Sunday.. They go into the bye I believer after that... Someone will correct me either way.. But the point being.. He's losing.. If not already has lost the locker room.. Guys will start chirping and saying.. "Why should we bust our ass for this asshole" This would segue in giving Crab legs the start... This team could literally implode!.. And Watson could get this entire regime fired... This situation is getting volatile...

    @nickers said:

    Not only that but consider this Bob...If Watson lays another egg on Sunday.. They go into the bye I believer after that... Someone will correct me either way.. But the point being.. He's losing.. If not already has lost the locker room.. Guys will start chirping and saying.. "Why should we bust our ass for this asshole" This would segue in giving Crab legs the start... This team could literally implode!.. And Watson could get this entire regime fired... This situation is getting volatile...

    Yep, the worst case scenario is certainly possible.

    Haslam has painted himself into a corner..

    A) Cut DW based on allegations, then good luck attracting free agents. 

    😎 Keep him & let courts/lawyers decide it, well the team could implode per your scenario.

    C) The fans just want a winner. Haslam angered many fans in the first place with this deal. Sunday, it was really an ugly scene. Lots of boos, deservedly so. And of course, lots of Browns fans sold their tickets on the secondary market, the place was 30% Dallas fans. A total bleep-show IMHO.

    Sometimes I think I'm an idiot. I renewed my season tickets again, mainly because I believed we have a contending team. 

    I get the feeling this is 2021 all over again.....playing another injured QB, because he's in the payroll. The difference  ( to me) is DW is mentally fried....who wouldn't be after the bed he's made.