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  • Afternoon, friends.  Season starts tonight and I'm happy to share another year with all of you.    Some insight from myself and the BrainyBallers squad.

    - I'm sitting KCs DEF tonight in favor of SEA at home and/or N.O. on the road vs Carolina.  Although the Chiefs are the hot pick, I'm looking for turnovers from the other two squads against overmatched rookies and questionable Olines. 

    - My logic money (LM) for the BLT v KC game tonight is a prop on Derrick Henry Over 15.5 rushing attempts.   Ravens Backs and receivers had 8 attempts total against the Chiefs last time, that isn't a blueprint to success.    I think the Ravens get Derrick going early and often, trying to steal a big AFC game on the road in week 1 with revenge on their mind. 

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    And no, haven't forgotten the IDL. Just had to cut out Ika and update it for the newcomers ?

  • The IDL – Regulators.

    Just a couple short years ago, the Browns fielded the worst trio of interior defensive lineman in the NFL.  The results were painfully predictable and DC Joe Woods was shown the door.

    Enter Coach Schwartz, who not only brought years of experience and results at every stop, with it a demand on the front office to overturn the Dline roster in the course of one off-season.   Which is exactly what they did, with only one holdover (Jordan Elliot) making it to the 2023 roster or practice squad.   

    The Beef -  

    Dalvin Tomlinson.  The elder statesman and Free Agent pickup from Minnesota.  He has provided the most steady, yet the most flexible talent to the IDL.  Capable of playing the nose, the 3tech and at times a 5tech in subpackages, as he goes, so tends to the rest of the Dline.  He sets the tone, and when he’s on, it’s usually a great deal for the entire defense. 

    Shelby Harris.   The near UDFA who has seemingly been around forever, CLE is his 6th team in his NFL career.   A pickup from the Seahawks, Harris has been a silent surprise.  As he has notched above average grades the last 5 years, keeping that going with his first year in a Browns uniform.  What he does isn’t particularly sexy, but his ugly work primarily playing as the shade in a reserve role has been rather vital to the Browns not being cooked against the run when the starters are spelled.    This year, Harris might take on more of a starting role, as there is a belief (at least, my own) that coach Schwartz may bump Tomlinson to play more 3 tech this season, allowing Harris a chance to slip into the 1tech next to him on the field first.  

    The speed –

    Mo Hurst.     I liked a lot of what I saw when Mo declared after this last season with tCUN (Those Cheaters up North)  Apart from a minor heart condition, found in the screening, the primary knock was his size, as he checked in around 275lbs pre-draft.  But in a pass happy NFL, he carried great potential as an interior rusher.     Another player who has notched positive grades in every season as a pro, the only draw back to his Mo’s game as a rotational piece has been his inability to finish seasons healthy – as he ended up on the IR to finish the 2023 campaign.     When healthy, he’s a consistently disruptive presence on the rotation bringing a great value to production benefit to this roster.

    Quinton Jefferson.      When you hear the phrase  “one trick pony”… well, that’s him.   He’s built for a defense like coach  Schwartz’.  Asking to simply shoot a gap,  get upfield, playing whatever and whoever along the way.   His career marks are negative against the run, and greater as a pass rusher.   As his play style, overly-aggressive tendencies, and penchant for taking himself out of the play against the run make him a liability taking anything resembling starter snaps.      However what he does he is VERY good at – getting skinny in the hole, getting by blocks and causing havoc and noise directly in front of the QB’s face.    

    Mikey Hall – the future. 

    Before I had to delete a lot of my previous write up, I still wanted to preface this by saying this is about Hall the football player, not the person.  We don’t condone violence towards women and children here.

    Anywho –  the rookie out of tOSU who was a bit miscast in his role under Coach Knowles defense in his odd fronts.   Mikey slides from playing more of a shade and 2i tech, into a more “traditional” 3tech role in the NFL.  What’s special about him is his hand usage,  and constant motor to match his first step burst.  He displays above average technical abilities at his position than most rookies, so his ability to contribute early and often in the rotation, specifically as a pass rusher, has never been in question.   He was marked for the commissioner exempt list and his presence, along with the lack of early return on invested draft capital, will be a painful reminder to this team of how easily ( in this case, stupidly) that draft picks with significant point value can be burned/lost. 

    Week open week 1 against a Cowboys Oline starting two rookies.  I would expect, throughout the entirety of the rotation, that his unit shows out strong early and often.  There is talent, there is depth and there is redundancy.   But it will be rather critical to make sure the Vets like Dalvin and Harris get off the field as much as possible, as they’ll experience the grind of a long season at a greater rate than the younger dawgs. 

    Week 1 predition – 0.5 sack for Dalvin, 1 sack for QJ. 

  • The IDL – Regulators.

    Just a couple short years ago, the Browns fielded the worst trio of interior defensive lineman in the NFL.  The results were painfully predictable and DC Joe Woods was shown the door.

    Enter Coach Schwartz, who not only brought years of experience and results at every stop, with it a demand on the front office to overturn the Dline roster in the course of one off-season.   Which is exactly what they did, with only one holdover (Jordan Elliot) making it to the 2023 roster or practice squad.   

    The Beef -  

    Dalvin Tomlinson.  The elder statesman and Free Agent pickup from Minnesota.  He has provided the most steady, yet the most flexible talent to the IDL.  Capable of playing the nose, the 3tech and at times a 5tech in subpackages, as he goes, so tends to the rest of the Dline.  He sets the tone, and when he’s on, it’s usually a great deal for the entire defense. 

    Shelby Harris.   The near UDFA who has seemingly been around forever, CLE is his 6th team in his NFL career.   A pickup from the Seahawks, Harris has been a silent surprise.  As he has notched above average grades the last 5 years, keeping that going with his first year in a Browns uniform.  What he does isn’t particularly sexy, but his ugly work primarily playing as the shade in a reserve role has been rather vital to the Browns not being cooked against the run when the starters are spelled.    This year, Harris might take on more of a starting role, as there is a belief (at least, my own) that coach Schwartz may bump Tomlinson to play more 3 tech this season, allowing Harris a chance to slip into the 1tech next to him on the field first.  

    The speed –

    Mo Hurst.     I liked a lot of what I saw when Mo declared after this last season with tCUN (Those Cheaters up North)  Apart from a minor heart condition, found in the screening, the primary knock was his size, as he checked in around 275lbs pre-draft.  But in a pass happy NFL, he carried great potential as an interior rusher.     Another player who has notched positive grades in every season as a pro, the only draw back to his Mo’s game as a rotational piece has been his inability to finish seasons healthy – as he ended up on the IR to finish the 2023 campaign.     When healthy, he’s a consistently disruptive presence on the rotation bringing a great value to production benefit to this roster.

    Quinton Jefferson.      When you hear the phrase  “one trick pony”… well, that’s him.   He’s built for a defense like coach  Schwartz’.  Asking to simply shoot a gap,  get upfield, playing whatever and whoever along the way.   His career marks are negative against the run, and greater as a pass rusher.   As his play style, overly-aggressive tendencies, and penchant for taking himself out of the play against the run make him a liability taking anything resembling starter snaps.      However what he does he is VERY good at – getting skinny in the hole, getting by blocks and causing havoc and noise directly in front of the QB’s face.    

    Mikey Hall – the future. 

    Before I had to delete a lot of my previous write up, I still wanted to preface this by saying this is about Hall the football player, not the person.  We don’t condone violence towards women and children here.

    Anywho –  the rookie out of tOSU who was a bit miscast in his role under Coach Knowles defense in his odd fronts.   Mikey slides from playing more of a shade and 2i tech, into a more “traditional” 3tech role in the NFL.  What’s special about him is his hand usage,  and constant motor to match his first step burst.  He displays above average technical abilities at his position than most rookies, so his ability to contribute early and often in the rotation, specifically as a pass rusher, has never been in question.   He was marked for the commissioner exempt list and his presence, along with the lack of early return on invested draft capital, will be a painful reminder to this team of how easily ( in this case, stupidly) that draft picks with significant point value can be burned/lost. 

    Week open week 1 against a Cowboys Oline starting two rookies.  I would expect, throughout the entirety of the rotation, that his unit shows out strong early and often.  There is talent, there is depth and there is redundancy.   But it will be rather critical to make sure the Vets like Dalvin and Harris get off the field as much as possible, as they’ll experience the grind of a long season at a greater rate than the younger dawgs. 

    Week 1 predition – 0.5 sack for Dalvin, 1 sack for QJ. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    The IDL – Regulators.

    Just a couple short years ago, the Browns fielded the worst trio of interior defensive lineman in the NFL.  The results were painfully predictable and DC Joe Woods was shown the door.

    Enter Coach Schwartz, who not only brought years of experience and results at every stop, with it a demand on the front office to overturn the Dline roster in the course of one off-season.   Which is exactly what they did, with only one holdover (Jordan Elliot) making it to the 2023 roster or practice squad.   

    The Beef -  

    Dalvin Tomlinson.  The elder statesman and Free Agent pickup from Minnesota.  He has provided the most steady, yet the most flexible talent to the IDL.  Capable of playing the nose, the 3tech and at times a 5tech in subpackages, as he goes, so tends to the rest of the Dline.  He sets the tone, and when he’s on, it’s usually a great deal for the entire defense. 

    Shelby Harris.   The near UDFA who has seemingly been around forever, CLE is his 6th team in his NFL career.   A pickup from the Seahawks, Harris has been a silent surprise.  As he has notched above average grades the last 5 years, keeping that going with his first year in a Browns uniform.  What he does isn’t particularly sexy, but his ugly work primarily playing as the shade in a reserve role has been rather vital to the Browns not being cooked against the run when the starters are spelled.    This year, Harris might take on more of a starting role, as there is a belief (at least, my own) that coach Schwartz may bump Tomlinson to play more 3 tech this season, allowing Harris a chance to slip into the 1tech next to him on the field first.  

    The speed –

    Mo Hurst.     I liked a lot of what I saw when Mo declared after this last season with tCUN (Those Cheaters up North)  Apart from a minor heart condition, found in the screening, the primary knock was his size, as he checked in around 275lbs pre-draft.  But in a pass happy NFL, he carried great potential as an interior rusher.     Another player who has notched positive grades in every season as a pro, the only draw back to his Mo’s game as a rotational piece has been his inability to finish seasons healthy – as he ended up on the IR to finish the 2023 campaign.     When healthy, he’s a consistently disruptive presence on the rotation bringing a great value to production benefit to this roster.

    Quinton Jefferson.      When you hear the phrase  “one trick pony”… well, that’s him.   He’s built for a defense like coach  Schwartz’.  Asking to simply shoot a gap,  get upfield, playing whatever and whoever along the way.   His career marks are negative against the run, and greater as a pass rusher.   As his play style, overly-aggressive tendencies, and penchant for taking himself out of the play against the run make him a liability taking anything resembling starter snaps.      However what he does he is VERY good at – getting skinny in the hole, getting by blocks and causing havoc and noise directly in front of the QB’s face.    

    Mikey Hall – the future. 

    Before I had to delete a lot of my previous write up, I still wanted to preface this by saying this is about Hall the football player, not the person.  We don’t condone violence towards women and children here.

    Anywho –  the rookie out of tOSU who was a bit miscast in his role under Coach Knowles defense in his odd fronts.   Mikey slides from playing more of a shade and 2i tech, into a more “traditional” 3tech role in the NFL.  What’s special about him is his hand usage,  and constant motor to match his first step burst.  He displays above average technical abilities at his position than most rookies, so his ability to contribute early and often in the rotation, specifically as a pass rusher, has never been in question.   He was marked for the commissioner exempt list and his presence, along with the lack of early return on invested draft capital, will be a painful reminder to this team of how easily ( in this case, stupidly) that draft picks with significant point value can be burned/lost. 

    Week open week 1 against a Cowboys Oline starting two rookies.  I would expect, throughout the entirety of the rotation, that his unit shows out strong early and often.  There is talent, there is depth and there is redundancy.   But it will be rather critical to make sure the Vets like Dalvin and Harris get off the field as much as possible, as they’ll experience the grind of a long season at a greater rate than the younger dawgs. 

    Week 1 predition – 0.5 sack for Dalvin, 1 sack for QJ. 

    Nice write-up T!  Not bad with the prediction.  That sack Dalvin had was beautiful.     Our offensive time of possession, or lack-there-of wore the defense out every bit as much as Dallas' offense.  Let's hope this improves next Sunday.

  • The worst backfield combo I've seen in my life was Mo Hall and Lydell Ross for tOSU in 2003. 

    I'm not saying Ford is Ross, but he ain't much better. 

    He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that.  Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard. 

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  • Yeah... Maurice Clarett's disappearing act after winning the national title exposed a pretty mediocre RB room below him. 

  • The worst backfield combo I've seen in my life was Mo Hall and Lydell Ross for tOSU in 2003. 

    I'm not saying Ford is Ross, but he ain't much better. 

    He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that.  Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard. 

    PXL_20240909_232808752.thumb.jpg.96628769830c31ccb842fc90c926a290.jpg

    @tiamat63 said:

    The worst backfield combo I've seen in my life was Mo Hall and Lydell Ross for tOSU in 2003. 

    I'm not saying Ford is Ross, but he ain't much better. 

    He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that.  Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard. 

    PXL_20240909_232808752.thumb.jpg.96628769830c31ccb842fc90c926a290.jpg

    You don't have the same vantage point as the RB. The Dallas LB is positioned to blockers right. He would have stepped into the gap and stuffed the run.

  • Yeah... Maurice Clarett's disappearing act after winning the national title exposed a pretty mediocre RB room below him. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Yeah... Maurice Clarett's disappearing act after winning the national title exposed a pretty mediocre RB room below him. 

     That was a rough year.  Great defense and fantastic special teams really kept it together.   Which sucks, because if Mo keeps his head straight, Bucks likely play for a shot a repeat title. 

  •   You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football.  There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system.   You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green".   Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it.     In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller.   Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull.    Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.   

     This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards".    Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.

     Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic.  This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst.    But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone.  Getting back to basics.    

     The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.

    - The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.

    - Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be.  Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.   

    JF1.thumb.jpg.dc48880b34b2b76ecdf519ad62a2a208.jpg

  • The worst backfield combo I've seen in my life was Mo Hall and Lydell Ross for tOSU in 2003. 

    I'm not saying Ford is Ross, but he ain't much better. 

    He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that.  Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard. 

    PXL_20240909_232808752.thumb.jpg.96628769830c31ccb842fc90c926a290.jpg

    @tiamat63 said:

    He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that.  Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard. 

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

  •   You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football.  There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system.   You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green".   Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it.     In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller.   Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull.    Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.   

     This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards".    Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.

     Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic.  This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst.    But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone.  Getting back to basics.    

     The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.

    - The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.

    - Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be.  Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.   

    JF1.thumb.jpg.dc48880b34b2b76ecdf519ad62a2a208.jpg

    @tiamat63 said:

      You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football.  There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system.   You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green".   Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it.     In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller.   Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull.    Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.   

     This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards".    Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.

     Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic.  This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst.    But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone.  Getting back to basics.    

     The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.

    - The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.

    - Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be.  Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.  

    Back in the Day Vince Lombardi wrote a book with WC Heinz called "Run To Daylight". That philosophy still has merit to this day no matter what terms are used to describe it. And Chubb is great at it

  • @tiamat63 said:

    He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that.  Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard. 

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

    @orion said:

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

    Ford cannot look at the situation in front of him and say: 

    "If I put my head down, I can get two yards".

    He's always looking for the long run, even when it is not there. 

  • @orion said:

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

    Ford cannot look at the situation in front of him and say: 

    "If I put my head down, I can get two yards".

    He's always looking for the long run, even when it is not there. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Ford cannot look at the situation in front of him and say: 

    "If I put my head down, I can get two yards".

    He's always looking for the long run, even when it is not there. 

    And what is our RB coach doing to correct this tendency? I don't see that Duce is doing much of anything for this team.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that.  Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard. 

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

    @orion said:

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

    Absolutely! Running with your eyes closed is a very bad decision for an NFL RB.  It's probably a big reason Nick Saban got impatient with him at Alabama before Ford transferred to the University of Cincinnati.  Like @tiamat63 is pointing out about Ford's impatience - a lot of that stems from his lack of vision.  This seems like it should be a correctable issue; but when a bad habit that has persisted for awhile - it's becomes even more difficult correct it within the NFL's short window of opportunity. 

  •   You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football.  There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system.   You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green".   Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it.     In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller.   Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull.    Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.   

     This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards".    Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.

     Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic.  This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst.    But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone.  Getting back to basics.    

     The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.

    - The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.

    - Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be.  Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.   

    JF1.thumb.jpg.dc48880b34b2b76ecdf519ad62a2a208.jpg

    @tiamat63 said:

      You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football.  There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system.   You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green".   Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it.     In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller.   Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull.    Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.   

     This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards".    Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.

     Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic.  This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst.    But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone.  Getting back to basics.    

     The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.

    - The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.

    - Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be.  Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.   

    JF1.thumb.jpg.dc48880b34b2b76ecdf519ad62a2a208.jpg

    A picture is worth a 1000 words.  Film is worth even more.  When Andy Reid was asked after a post season victory a couple years ago what he thought of the game changing tackle and turnover his young LBer Nick Bolton made - he said, "that's why drafted him - he was the best tackler in the draft."  They got him in round 2 out of Mizzou in 2021. Last year, Bolton had 40 tackles in the playoffs. You can't be instinctive or get there first (on defense) no matter how fast you are if you ain't play football with your eyes open.  

  • @tiamat63 said:

    He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that.  Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard. 

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

    @orion said:

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

     He's basically guessing, and when you give him a lead or a pull, he almost follows it blindly.  To the point where he runs into his blockers quite a bit.  His feel and anticipation for open lanes, his patience to allow his blocks to develop and his eyes, which tends to invite second level tacklers right to him - are all VERY subpar. 

     Dallas started getting away with lighter box counts middle of the 2nd and the running game didn't generate much of anything. At that point, they're winning the numbers game on offense and defense - it was over then. 

    @texasag1969 said:

    And what is our RB coach doing to correct this tendency? I don't see that Duce is doing much of anything for this team.

    You can only coach so much before you need your players to just execute better in their roles.  I can white board all day with professionals and understand the conversation... Doesn't mean I'm able to play QB at an NFL level. 

  • @orion said:

    I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.

     He's basically guessing, and when you give him a lead or a pull, he almost follows it blindly.  To the point where he runs into his blockers quite a bit.  His feel and anticipation for open lanes, his patience to allow his blocks to develop and his eyes, which tends to invite second level tacklers right to him - are all VERY subpar. 

     Dallas started getting away with lighter box counts middle of the 2nd and the running game didn't generate much of anything. At that point, they're winning the numbers game on offense and defense - it was over then. 

    @texasag1969 said:

    And what is our RB coach doing to correct this tendency? I don't see that Duce is doing much of anything for this team.

    You can only coach so much before you need your players to just execute better in their roles.  I can white board all day with professionals and understand the conversation... Doesn't mean I'm able to play QB at an NFL level. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    You can only coach so much before you need your players to just execute better in their roles.  I can white board all day with professionals and understand the conversation... Doesn't mean I'm able to play QB at an NFL level. 

    Yank his ass out of the game when he doesn't do it as coached, have a nice sideline talk and leave him there a few minutes on the bench to contemplate his error (s). Put him back in for another go. Repeat as needed. I don't see that happening.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    You can only coach so much before you need your players to just execute better in their roles.  I can white board all day with professionals and understand the conversation... Doesn't mean I'm able to play QB at an NFL level. 

    Yank his ass out of the game when he doesn't do it as coached, have a nice sideline talk and leave him there a few minutes on the bench to contemplate his error (s). Put him back in for another go. Repeat as needed. I don't see that happening.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Yank his ass out of the game when he doesn't do it as coached, have a nice sideline talk and leave him there a few minutes on the bench to contemplate his error (s). Put him back in for another go. Repeat as needed. I don't see that happening.

     Consider the RB situation. 

    Ford. Meh. 

    Strong - rather large fumble risk. 

    Hines - inactive 

    Chubb - IR

    Foreman - I believe inactive? Didn't see the field once if he was. 

    Doesn't leave much room to pull your starter.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Yank his ass out of the game when he doesn't do it as coached, have a nice sideline talk and leave him there a few minutes on the bench to contemplate his error (s). Put him back in for another go. Repeat as needed. I don't see that happening.

     Consider the RB situation. 

    Ford. Meh. 

    Strong - rather large fumble risk. 

    Hines - inactive 

    Chubb - IR

    Foreman - I believe inactive? Didn't see the field once if he was. 

    Doesn't leave much room to pull your starter.

    @tiamat63 said:

     Consider the RB situation. 

    Ford. Meh. 

    Strong - rather large fumble risk. 

    Hines - inactive 

    Chubb - IR

    Foreman - I believe inactive? Didn't see the field once if he was. 

    Doesn't leave much room to pull your starter.

    Well we could always put a uni of Derrick Henry on loan.?22

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Consider the RB situation. 

    Ford. Meh. 

    Strong - rather large fumble risk. 

    Hines - inactive 

    Chubb - IR

    Foreman - I believe inactive? Didn't see the field once if he was. 

    Doesn't leave much room to pull your starter.

    Well we could always put a uni of Derrick Henry on loan.?22

    @texasag1969 said:

    Well we could always put a uni of Derrick Henry on loan.?22

    I love the idea of bad luck to drop my question RBs AYPC another .5. 

    ?

  • I hate the thought that Nick Chubb is on the back 9 of his career.