The 2024 Analysis thread - Dawn of The 9
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You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football. There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system. You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green". Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it. In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller. Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull. Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.
This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards". Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.
Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic. This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst. But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone. Getting back to basics.
The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.
- The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.
- Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be. Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.
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The worst backfield combo I've seen in my life was Mo Hall and Lydell Ross for tOSU in 2003.
I'm not saying Ford is Ross, but he ain't much better.
He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that. Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard.
He did not take this gap, if you were expecting that. Instead he bounced it front side and was tackled for a loss of half a yard.
I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football. There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system. You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green". Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it. In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller. Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull. Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.
This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards". Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.
Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic. This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst. But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone. Getting back to basics.
The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.
- The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.
- Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be. Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.
You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football. There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system. You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green". Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it. In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller. Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull. Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.
This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards". Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.
Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic. This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst. But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone. Getting back to basics.
The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.
- The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.
- Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be. Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.
Back in the Day Vince Lombardi wrote a book with WC Heinz called "Run To Daylight". That philosophy still has merit to this day no matter what terms are used to describe it. And Chubb is great at it
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I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.
Ford cannot look at the situation in front of him and say:
"If I put my head down, I can get two yards".
He's always looking for the long run, even when it is not there.
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Ford cannot look at the situation in front of him and say:
"If I put my head down, I can get two yards".
He's always looking for the long run, even when it is not there.
And what is our RB coach doing to correct this tendency? I don't see that Duce is doing much of anything for this team.
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I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.
Absolutely! Running with your eyes closed is a very bad decision for an NFL RB. It's probably a big reason Nick Saban got impatient with him at Alabama before Ford transferred to the University of Cincinnati. Like @tiamat63 is pointing out about Ford's impatience - a lot of that stems from his lack of vision. This seems like it should be a correctable issue; but when a bad habit that has persisted for awhile - it's becomes even more difficult correct it within the NFL's short window of opportunity.
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You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football. There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system. You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green". Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it. In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller. Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull. Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.
This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards". Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.
Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic. This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst. But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone. Getting back to basics.
The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.
- The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.
- Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be. Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.
You'll hear a lot of different words used when speaking the language of football. There are some that are universal, but "bang, bend bounce" has been one of those widely used and understood coaching phrases when teaching young backs how to read their offensive blocking system. You'll also hear something like "green grass" or "go to green". Basically meaning if you encounter an open alley behind or off of your lead - hit it. In this case, Ford didn't see the the WILL linebacker over-flow from his B gap, chasing the pull from Teller. Meaning he should have immediately planted his foot and taken this 'green grass' off of his blockers pull. Third step should have been to lower his leverage and burst to the voided B gap, but he fucked up, and he fucked up bad.
This is a prime example of why Chubb is one of the very best in the NFL and one of the man reasons why you'll hear the phrase "creates his own yards". Instead, Ford continued to follow the pull, shoulders parallel to the line WAY too long and then dance for a loss.
Micah wasn't going to recover, and neither was the shade locked up on Pocic. This is where you need patience, footwork, then great burst. But this is another argument for why this team needs to make the switch to Dont'a Foreman and to work from under center more back to the vertical zone. Getting back to basics.
The Browns struggle to run outside zone or outside pin and pull for two reasons.
- The tackle situation doesn't allow for it.
- Ford's eyes and head are not as active and "detached" as they need to be. Meaning he's looking in the exact direction his upper body (shoulders) is pointed.
A picture is worth a 1000 words. Film is worth even more. When Andy Reid was asked after a post season victory a couple years ago what he thought of the game changing tackle and turnover his young LBer Nick Bolton made - he said, "that's why drafted him - he was the best tackler in the draft." They got him in round 2 out of Mizzou in 2021. Last year, Bolton had 40 tackles in the playoffs. You can't be instinctive or get there first (on defense) no matter how fast you are if you ain't play football with your eyes open.
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I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.
He's basically guessing, and when you give him a lead or a pull, he almost follows it blindly. To the point where he runs into his blockers quite a bit. His feel and anticipation for open lanes, his patience to allow his blocks to develop and his eyes, which tends to invite second level tacklers right to him - are all VERY subpar.
Dallas started getting away with lighter box counts middle of the 2nd and the running game didn't generate much of anything. At that point, they're winning the numbers game on offense and defense - it was over then.
And what is our RB coach doing to correct this tendency? I don't see that Duce is doing much of anything for this team.
You can only coach so much before you need your players to just execute better in their roles. I can white board all day with professionals and understand the conversation... Doesn't mean I'm able to play QB at an NFL level.
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I've said it before, Ford makes bad decisions as to where to run.
He's basically guessing, and when you give him a lead or a pull, he almost follows it blindly. To the point where he runs into his blockers quite a bit. His feel and anticipation for open lanes, his patience to allow his blocks to develop and his eyes, which tends to invite second level tacklers right to him - are all VERY subpar.
Dallas started getting away with lighter box counts middle of the 2nd and the running game didn't generate much of anything. At that point, they're winning the numbers game on offense and defense - it was over then.
And what is our RB coach doing to correct this tendency? I don't see that Duce is doing much of anything for this team.
You can only coach so much before you need your players to just execute better in their roles. I can white board all day with professionals and understand the conversation... Doesn't mean I'm able to play QB at an NFL level.
You can only coach so much before you need your players to just execute better in their roles. I can white board all day with professionals and understand the conversation... Doesn't mean I'm able to play QB at an NFL level.
Yank his ass out of the game when he doesn't do it as coached, have a nice sideline talk and leave him there a few minutes on the bench to contemplate his error (s). Put him back in for another go. Repeat as needed. I don't see that happening.
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You can only coach so much before you need your players to just execute better in their roles. I can white board all day with professionals and understand the conversation... Doesn't mean I'm able to play QB at an NFL level.
Yank his ass out of the game when he doesn't do it as coached, have a nice sideline talk and leave him there a few minutes on the bench to contemplate his error (s). Put him back in for another go. Repeat as needed. I don't see that happening.
Yank his ass out of the game when he doesn't do it as coached, have a nice sideline talk and leave him there a few minutes on the bench to contemplate his error (s). Put him back in for another go. Repeat as needed. I don't see that happening.
Consider the RB situation.
Ford. Meh.
Strong - rather large fumble risk.
Hines - inactive
Chubb - IR
Foreman - I believe inactive? Didn't see the field once if he was.
Doesn't leave much room to pull your starter.
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Yank his ass out of the game when he doesn't do it as coached, have a nice sideline talk and leave him there a few minutes on the bench to contemplate his error (s). Put him back in for another go. Repeat as needed. I don't see that happening.
Consider the RB situation.
Ford. Meh.
Strong - rather large fumble risk.
Hines - inactive
Chubb - IR
Foreman - I believe inactive? Didn't see the field once if he was.
Doesn't leave much room to pull your starter.
Consider the RB situation.
Ford. Meh.
Strong - rather large fumble risk.
Hines - inactive
Chubb - IR
Foreman - I believe inactive? Didn't see the field once if he was.
Doesn't leave much room to pull your starter.
Well we could always put a uni of Derrick Henry on loan.?22
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Well we could always put a uni of Derrick Henry on loan.?22
I love the idea of bad luck to drop my question RBs AYPC another .5.
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I hate the thought that Nick Chubb is on the back 9 of his career.
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Went 4-0 last week when we included the 2 leg parlay of DAL +3 and the Over 43.
Picks that we've narrowed down and will be waiting on final injury report before locking in.
KC -6 vs CIN
LAC -4.5 @ CAR
IND-2.5 @ GB
NE +3.5 vs SEA
DAL -5.5 vs N.O.Bonus tossed in for CFB
Florida +3.5 vs Texas A&M
Let's make bank!
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Been doing this a long time, it's WAY overdue to have published my stuff. Wanted to again thank everyone on this board for the years of support, debate, encouragement, and letting me use this place as my workshop.
Please, friends, feel free to stop by and give the Facebook page a like and/or share if you enjoyed the content and appreciate the time put in! I look forward to growing the community and bringing my work to NFL fans all over!
https://www.facebook.com/RunningThe9
Direct link to the article on the site itself.
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Been doing this a long time, it's WAY overdue to have published my stuff. Wanted to again thank everyone on this board for the years of support, debate, encouragement, and letting me use this place as my workshop.
Please, friends, feel free to stop by and give the Facebook page a like and/or share if you enjoyed the content and appreciate the time put in! I look forward to growing the community and bringing my work to NFL fans all over!
https://www.facebook.com/RunningThe9
Direct link to the article on the site itself.
Been doing this a long time, it's WAY overdue to have published my stuff. Wanted to again thank everyone on this board for the years of support, debate, encouragement, and letting me use this place as my workshop.
Please, friends, feel free to stop by and give the Facebook page a like and/or share if you enjoyed the content and appreciate the time put in! I look forward to growing the community and bringing my work to NFL fans all over!
https://www.facebook.com/RunningThe9
Direct link to the article on the site itself.
Great job of "Diving into the Ford." Very happy you're doing this for yourself! I don't know if you heard but I haven't used Facebook in a long time. Can you join via email address?
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Been doing this a long time, it's WAY overdue to have published my stuff. Wanted to again thank everyone on this board for the years of support, debate, encouragement, and letting me use this place as my workshop.
Please, friends, feel free to stop by and give the Facebook page a like and/or share if you enjoyed the content and appreciate the time put in! I look forward to growing the community and bringing my work to NFL fans all over!
https://www.facebook.com/RunningThe9
Direct link to the article on the site itself.
Great job of "Diving into the Ford." Very happy you're doing this for yourself! I don't know if you heard but I haven't used Facebook in a long time. Can you join via email address?
Great job of "Diving into the Ford." Very happy you're doing this for yourself! I don't know if you heard but I haven't used Facebook in a long time. Can you join via email address?
On Facebook? No.
The second link is to the BrainyBallers site itself. So even when my work moves to Youtube, it'll still be linked to the site. And you can join with your email there.
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"Jerome Ford is an absolute eye sore to the running back position."
Don't hold anything back tia.?
Unfortunately you're right.
And now compare that breakdown to D. Henry's work on his 87 yd run. Sure initially he has a big hole, but he also sets up his TE coming across his front and anticipates daylight to the right of the TE rather than just running up into the defender. And then it's just pure DH speed from that point on.
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"Jerome Ford is an absolute eye sore to the running back position."
Don't hold anything back tia.?
Unfortunately you're right.
And now compare that breakdown to D. Henry's work on his 87 yd run. Sure initially he has a big hole, but he also sets up his TE coming across his front and anticipates daylight to the right of the TE rather than just running up into the defender. And then it's just pure DH speed from that point on.
"Jerome Ford is an absolute eye sore to the running back position."
Don't hold anything back tia.?
Unfortunately you're right.
And now compare that breakdown to D. Henry's work on his 87 yd run. Sure initially he has a big hole, but he also sets up his TE coming across his front and anticipates daylight to the right of the TE rather than just running up into the defender. And then it's just pure DH speed from that point on.
And that eye sore does collateral damage; so thank you for showing us a RB that knows how to get it done better than anyone right now Aggies!
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
"Jerome Ford is an absolute eye sore to the running back position."
Don't hold anything back tia.?
Unfortunately you're right.
And now compare that breakdown to D. Henry's work on his 87 yd run. Sure initially he has a big hole, but he also sets up his TE coming across his front and anticipates daylight to the right of the TE rather than just running up into the defender. And then it's just pure DH speed from that point on.
"Jerome Ford is an absolute eye sore to the running back position."
Don't hold anything back tia.?
In hindsight, I should have gone a *bit* easier. Ford isn't the worst RB I've seen.
That said, Smitty uses the right term for certain players - 'JAG'. That's what Ford is. He's an RB1 by default, not by talent.
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