Another Lawsuit Ensuing... The Browns Just Might Have An Out!
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Keyword "alleged."
I didn't like the signing either.
Honestly, watch the short clip I shared on page one with Chappelle and Bill Cosby. I'm not going to argue with semantics that these are by definition alleged, but there's level to this stuff. To be sure, I'm not talking at you personally when I say this but just broadly- unless these woman have created one of the greatest conspiracies against an athlete in history, this mofo is an abuser. It's wild people even argue against that.
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I'm afraid I do not see any upside. Lessor of evils kind of thing.
I'm afraid I do not see any upside. Lessor of evils kind of thing.
I hear ya!
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The FO was afraid of hurting DW’s feelings by keeping Flacco.
This is absolutely true.
That being said, Flacco was a short-term fix.
The Browns need to pray that he gets suspended again, and they are able to void the rest of his contract and move on.
That being said, Flacco was a short-term fix.
Right, and he's not somebody that runs the offense that they'd like run.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
It is snowballing. Flugel and Dutch are about to sue Watson.
It is snowballing. Flugel and Dutch are about to sue Watson.
Who is "Dutch"? I must have him on my ignore list. Flugel seems ok to me.
Ok, carry on.?
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That being said, Flacco was a short-term fix.
Right, and he's not somebody that runs the offense that they'd like run.
Right, and he's not somebody that runs the offense that they'd like run.
He's the one who does, though, run Kevin's offense well.
I've said it before, Stefanski can produce an offense that scores points, but it does not in any shape or form resemble a RPO offense. Kevin and Watson are a horrible fit.
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So Eisen says that the trade is looking like the worst trade in history. And it may end up being...but it was only game one of this pivotal Deshaun Watson season. The Browns were missing their two starting tackles and were playing a very good Dallas defense. Six sacks on Watson. Five times he ran for 39 yards. Ford only had 44 yards in 12 carries. And with no game reps all preseason. - Tough to succeed.
As much as I'm no fan of his, he deserves a solid chance at proving his abilities this season. And until the league or the doctors say he can't play, he should play.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
And no Nick Chubb
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Dan Patrick is worth listening to on this issue. His sidekick brings up what's in the contract.
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Dan Patrick is worth listening to on this issue. His sidekick brings up what's in the contract.
Dan Patrick is worth listening to on this issue. His sidekick brings up what's in the contract.
Some organizations/ownerships will never understand HOW to invest in a QB and protect such an important investment. Forget the Watson situation. I realize I went from a huge Baker fan prior to us drafting him to talking myself out of my initial angry reaction to the ownership dropping Baker. I posted a lot of venom about them not appreciating him and bringing up that's what he got for playing hurt. HOWEVER, I started to think the Watson I saw playing for the Texans seemed like an upgrade. That means I deserve some of the reality hitting me right between the lookers today.
I still don't know if Baker is ever going to be a Super Bowl Champion - but give the guy credit for his willingness to compete like one. We scored 48 points in a playoff game in Pittsburgh with him as our QB - although Myles Garrett started the score-fest with a TD on the game's first snap. Our pass rush caused 4 INTs and 5 turnovers from Roethlisberger. Baker threw 3 TD passes and ZERO interceptions on the same night. The interesting thing about it? It was the ONLY game our OC Alex Van Pelt got to call the plays the entire time he was here.
Of course, Jimmy's organization was still firing the OC (Alex Van Pelt) and RB Coach (Stump Mitchell) as the next ideas to solidify his staff around getting the right offensive fit for the gotta-have Watson. The difference between Watson's previous teams at Clemson as well as Houston - was they had the right staff and right offense all in place and ready to go to match his skills and strengths on Watson's 1st day there while the coaches knew exactly what needed to improve. Unfortunately, the Browns were heading into season #3 hoping they had the right new offense ready to go around the QB. Here's the thing, they did a lot of the same crap around Baker. How many different Offensive Coordinators or Coaches calling plays did the guy have here the 1st 3-4 years here? What seemed like a great idea at first was a lousy idea with bringing OBJ to the locker room here. I got the feeling that guy turned a lot of guys on the team against Baker; because nobody said they were sorry to see him go after all they accomplished together at times. Meanwhile, OBJ was buying teammates flashy cleats other stuff. Seemed like he wanted friction between Baker and Jarvis Landry (after those 2 had very good chemistry established here). I think OBJ was a cancer here and Jimmy used it all as his ideal opportunity to go get HIS new QB.
Another similarity Baker experienced like Watson here - was in their 2nd seasons with this team. The Browns lost both starting Offensive Tackles in the Opener against the Titans in Baker's 2nd season. They also lost 1 of the backups the next week. Fast forward to last year, the Browns lost Conklin, Jones and Wills. Lucky for us, the unemployed Left Tackle the Browns signed off the streets gave 100 times the effort that the Wills did. Conklin and Jones are both great run blockers when healthy. That said, how often was Conklin ever healthy enough before or after we drafted Dawand Jones. We're seeing this whole thing play out as Jimmy's business idea of how to compete. Pretty soon his product is gonna be competing with Sanford & Son re-runs...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
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Dan Patrick is worth listening to on this issue. His sidekick brings up what's in the contract.
Some organizations/ownerships will never understand HOW to invest in a QB and protect such an important investment. Forget the Watson situation. I realize I went from a huge Baker fan prior to us drafting him to talking myself out of my initial angry reaction to the ownership dropping Baker. I posted a lot of venom about them not appreciating him and bringing up that's what he got for playing hurt. HOWEVER, I started to think the Watson I saw playing for the Texans seemed like an upgrade. That means I deserve some of the reality hitting me right between the lookers today.
I still don't know if Baker is ever going to be a Super Bowl Champion - but give the guy credit for his willingness to compete like one. We scored 48 points in a playoff game in Pittsburgh with him as our QB - although Myles Garrett started the score-fest with a TD on the game's first snap. Our pass rush caused 4 INTs and 5 turnovers from Roethlisberger. Baker threw 3 TD passes and ZERO interceptions on the same night. The interesting thing about it? It was the ONLY game our OC Alex Van Pelt got to call the plays the entire time he was here.
Of course, Jimmy's organization was still firing the OC (Alex Van Pelt) and RB Coach (Stump Mitchell) as the next ideas to solidify his staff around getting the right offensive fit for the gotta-have Watson. The difference between Watson's previous teams at Clemson as well as Houston - was they had the right staff and right offense all in place and ready to go to match his skills and strengths on Watson's 1st day there while the coaches knew exactly what needed to improve. Unfortunately, the Browns were heading into season #3 hoping they had the right new offense ready to go around the QB. Here's the thing, they did a lot of the same crap around Baker. How many different Offensive Coordinators or Coaches calling plays did the guy have here the 1st 3-4 years here? What seemed like a great idea at first was a lousy idea with bringing OBJ to the locker room here. I got the feeling that guy turned a lot of guys on the team against Baker; because nobody said they were sorry to see him go after all they accomplished together at times. Meanwhile, OBJ was buying teammates flashy cleats other stuff. Seemed like he wanted friction between Baker and Jarvis Landry (after those 2 had very good chemistry established here). I think OBJ was a cancer here and Jimmy used it all as his ideal opportunity to go get HIS new QB.
Another similarity Baker experienced like Watson here - was in their 2nd seasons with this team. The Browns lost both starting Offensive Tackles in the Opener against the Titans in Baker's 2nd season. They also lost 1 of the backups the next week. Fast forward to last year, the Browns lost Conklin, Jones and Wills. Lucky for us, the unemployed Left Tackle the Browns signed off the streets gave 100 times the effort that the Wills did. Conklin and Jones are both great run blockers when healthy. That said, how often was Conklin ever healthy enough before or after we drafted Dawand Jones. We're seeing this whole thing play out as Jimmy's business idea of how to compete. Pretty soon his product is gonna be competing with Sanford & Son re-runs...
Some organizations/ownerships will never understand HOW to invest in a QB and protect such an important investment. Forget the Watson situation. I realize I went from a huge Baker fan prior to us drafting him to talking myself out of my initial angry reaction to the ownership dropping Baker. I posted a lot of venom about them not appreciating him and bringing up hat's what he got for playing hurt. HOWEVER, I started to think the Watson I saw playing for the Texans seemed like an upgrade. That means I deserve some of the reality hitting me right between the lookers.
I still don't know if Baker is ever going to be a Super Bowl Champion - but give the guy credit for his willingness to compete like one. We scored 48 points in a playoff game in Pittsburgh with him as our QB - although Myles Garrett started the score-fest with a TD on the game's first snap. Our pass rush caused 4 INTs and 5 turnovers from Roethlisberger. Baker threw 3 TD passes and ZERO interceptions on the same night. The interesting thing about it? It was the ONLY game our OC Alex Van Pelt got to call the plays the entire time he was here.
Of course, Jimmy's organization was still firing the OC (Alex Van Pelt) and RB Coach (Stump Mitchell) as the next ideas to solidify his staff around getting the right offensive fit for the gotta-have Watson. The difference between Watson's previous teams at Clemson as well as Houston - was they had the right staff and right offense all in place and ready to go to match his skills and strengths while the coaches knew exactly what needed to improve. Unfortunately, the Browns were heading into season #3 hoping they had the right new offense ready to go around the QB. Here's the thing, the did a lot of the same crap around Baker. How many different Offensive Coordinators or Coaches calling plays did the guy have here the 1st 3-4 years here? What seemed like a great idea at first was a lousy idea with bringing OBJ to the locker room here. I got the feeling that guy turned a lot of guys on the team against Baker; because nobody said they were sorry to see him go after all they accomplished together at times. Meanwhile, OBJ was buying teammates flashy cleats other stuff. Seemed like he wanted friction friction between Baker and Jarvis Landry (after those 2 had very good chemistry established here). I think OBJ was a cancer here and Jimmy used it all as his ideal opportunity to go get HIS new QB.
Another similarity Baker experienced like Watson here - was in their 2nd seasons with this team. The Browns lost both starting Offensive Tackles in the Opener against the Titans in that 2nd season. They also lost 1 of the backups the next week. Fast forward to last year, the Browns lost Conklin, Jones and Wills. Lucky for us, the unemployed Tackle the Browns signed off the streets gave 100 times the effort that the Wills did. Conklin and Jones are both great run blockers when healthy. That said, how often was Conklin ever healthy enough before or after we drafted Dawand Jones. We're seeing this whole thing play out as Jimmy's business idea of how to compete. Pretty soon his product is gonna be competing with Sanford & Son re-runs...
Great history lesson ( unfortunately). Damn this bites.
The Browns laid a similar egg in a 38-6 opening day loss to the Ratbirds a few years ago & finished 11-5.
Yet nothing we saw Sunday gives us hope that can happen this year. Once again, lots of distractions. Hope I'm wrong.
PS....season ticket holders get a survey on Monday morning after every game. I vented like the Tazmanian Devil, most notably regarding " on a scale of 1-10, how was your game day experience?" WELL IT WAS BLEEPIN BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP.
I'm still pissed they charge major league prices for minor league games (preseason), then treat the HOME OPENER like a preseason game. Somebody talk me off the edge.
Haslam, WTF. I really wish Gilbert owned the Browns. Our owners in town are in the wrong spots, sadly.
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Deshaun Watson's latest lawsuit contains 'pertinent video'
Pertinent in what sense ... Client(Jane Doe) interview?... or something more on the wrongful bawdy side... Guilty , or not.... This is a mess...
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Deshaun Watson's latest lawsuit contains 'pertinent video'
Pertinent in what sense ... Client(Jane Doe) interview?... or something more on the wrongful bawdy side... Guilty , or not.... This is a mess...
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So Eisen says that the trade is looking like the worst trade in history. And it may end up being...but it was only game one of this pivotal Deshaun Watson season. The Browns were missing their two starting tackles and were playing a very good Dallas defense. Six sacks on Watson. Five times he ran for 39 yards. Ford only had 44 yards in 12 carries. And with no game reps all preseason. - Tough to succeed.
As much as I'm no fan of his, he deserves a solid chance at proving his abilities this season. And until the league or the doctors say he can't play, he should play.
So Eisen says that the trade is looking like the worst trade in history. And it may end up being...but it was only game one of this pivotal Deshaun Watson season. The Browns were missing their two starting tackles and were playing a very good Dallas defense. Six sacks on Watson. Five times he ran for 39 yards. Ford only had 44 yards in 12 carries. And with no game reps all preseason. - Tough to succeed.
As much as I'm no fan of his, he deserves a solid chance at proving his abilities this season. And until the league or the doctors say he can't play, he should play.
i just wonder if he is still dealing with an injured throwing shoulder - whether mentally / physically.
Apart from being cleared by the doctors... frustrating because of 2021 with Mayfields non throwing shoulder had an effect on his play throughout the season.
if im wrong - so be it.
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So Eisen says that the trade is looking like the worst trade in history. And it may end up being...but it was only game one of this pivotal Deshaun Watson season. The Browns were missing their two starting tackles and were playing a very good Dallas defense. Six sacks on Watson. Five times he ran for 39 yards. Ford only had 44 yards in 12 carries. And with no game reps all preseason. - Tough to succeed.
As much as I'm no fan of his, he deserves a solid chance at proving his abilities this season. And until the league or the doctors say he can't play, he should play.
i just wonder if he is still dealing with an injured throwing shoulder - whether mentally / physically.
Apart from being cleared by the doctors... frustrating because of 2021 with Mayfields non throwing shoulder had an effect on his play throughout the season.
if im wrong - so be it.
i just wonder if he is still dealing with an injured throwing shoulder
Well, his deep balls didn't seem to have much zip to them.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
i just wonder if he is still dealing with an injured throwing shoulder
Well, his deep balls didn't seem to have much zip to them.
Well, his deep balls didn't seem to have much zip to them.
Out of nowhere during the Cowboys game he had a stretch where all the sudden the ball was flying out of his hand. He was really spinning it.
I don't discount the idea that his shoulder could still be lame, but sometimes I really think his throwing problems are mostly mental. He just looks like he has no idea or no faith in what is going on, and he's almost always overthinking shit out there, instead of just playing football free and loose.
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Well, his deep balls didn't seem to have much zip to them.
Out of nowhere during the Cowboys game he had a stretch where all the sudden the ball was flying out of his hand. He was really spinning it.
I don't discount the idea that his shoulder could still be lame, but sometimes I really think his throwing problems are mostly mental. He just looks like he has no idea or no faith in what is going on, and he's almost always overthinking shit out there, instead of just playing football free and loose.
He just looks like he has no idea or no faith in what is going on
We had 4 QB's all TC and preseason. And there was a stretch where he had soreness in his shoulder. I don't think that he had enough live, quality reps with the entire starting offense. I don't think that the starting offense (minus Watson) had enough live reps. We know the starting tackles didn't. And the Dallas defense is pretty good. They weren't going to let our offense get acquainted with one another. The offense just wasn't ready to play football at a high level....and I'm none too sure that they will be this week either.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
He just looks like he has no idea or no faith in what is going on
We had 4 QB's all TC and preseason. And there was a stretch where he had soreness in his shoulder. I don't think that he had enough live, quality reps with the entire starting offense. I don't think that the starting offense (minus Watson) had enough live reps. We know the starting tackles didn't. And the Dallas defense is pretty good. They weren't going to let our offense get acquainted with one another. The offense just wasn't ready to play football at a high level....and I'm none too sure that they will be this week either.
We had 4 QB's all TC and preseason. And there was a stretch where he had soreness in his shoulder. I don't think that he had enough live, quality reps with the entire starting offense. I don't think that the starting offense (minus Watson) had enough live reps. We know the starting tackles didn't. And the Dallas defense is pretty good. They weren't going to let our offense get acquainted with one another. The offense just wasn't ready to play football at a high level....and I'm none too sure that they will be this week either.
Listening to the local sports radio station during Training Camp, there were stories here and there that just didn't make it sound like things were progressing all that well with the offense. No flat out "Holy shit, they look horrible" stories, but if you listened on a regular basis and pieced the interviews together, you didn't come away optimistic. In fact, you got the impression that there wasn't much of a sense of urgency. You have a QB who for the first two seasons with the Browns was light years from the elite status he was between 2018-2020, now moving into a new offense with a new OC, a new #2 WR in Jerry Jeudy, and there wasn't a sense of urgency?
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