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  • @calfoxwc said:

    Then there is Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft.

    He's a star with the niners. With all the skills, why he was overlooked so long,

    is a mystery. The Browns need to find their guy, I don't care what college he comes from, and I don't care if he is rated top ten in the any of the football gurus ratings.

    Not sure Purdy is a "star." Just a cat that benefits from being in Kyle Shanahan's offense.

    I agree the Browns should draft and develop "their guy." But until then I am riding with Deshaun, in my somewhat slight support of the Browns

    @packernation said:

    Not sure Purdy is a "star." Just a cat that benefits from being in Kyle Shanahan's offense.

    I agree the Browns should draft and develop "their guy." But until then I am riding with Deshaun, in my somewhat slight support of the Browns

    Well you'll be riding DeSuck to a 6-11 record or worse..

  • @packernation said:

    Not sure Purdy is a "star." Just a cat that benefits from being in Kyle Shanahan's offense.

    Interesting take.   Especially considering all the offensive philosophy overlap from Shanny to Lefleur.  

    I assume that means you don't believe Love is a 'Star' because he benefits from having similar coaching and structure then? 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Interesting take.   Especially considering all the offensive philosophy overlap from Shanny to Lefleur.  

    I assume that means you don't believe Love is a 'Star' because he benefits from having similar coaching and structure then? 

    Well, I do think there are benefits to being in LaFleur's offense. But I don't think we would argue over the fact that J-Love is far more talented than Purdy. And J-Love could flourish in any offense, while Purdy could not.

  • @packernation said:

    Not sure Purdy is a "star." Just a cat that benefits from being in Kyle Shanahan's offense.

    I agree the Browns should draft and develop "their guy." But until then I am riding with Deshaun, in my somewhat slight support of the Browns

    Well you'll be riding DeSuck to a 6-11 record or worse..

    @nickers said:

    Well you'll be riding DeSuck to a 6-11 record or worse..

    So, the Browns the fortunes are all dependent on Watson? If they indeed go 6-11 or worse, no one else would be at fault but Deshaun? 

    No QB could be successful behind that OL, and with a clown play caller. 

    But I do think Deshaun has much better chance at helping the Browns get to the playoffs than Winston would. Yes, some here are calling for Watson to be benched after only 3 games, and going with Winston. Sorry, but that would be panicking. Ask Saints fans about Winston. Careful what you wish for.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Interesting take.   Especially considering all the offensive philosophy overlap from Shanny to Lefleur.  

    I assume that means you don't believe Love is a 'Star' because he benefits from having similar coaching and structure then? 

    Well, I do think there are benefits to being in LaFleur's offense. But I don't think we would argue over the fact that J-Love is far more talented than Purdy. And J-Love could flourish in any offense, while Purdy could not.

    @packernation said:

    @packernation said:

    But I don't think we would argue over the fact that J-Love is far more talented than Purdy. And J-Love could flourish in any offense, while Purdy could not.

     Purdy operates in an incredibly similar offense as Love, structural, play call, language, etc etc. And puts up numbers every bit as good if not better in a pretty tough division.  

     Only pointing out that if you feel Purdy isn't a "star* because of Shanahan's offense, yet MFL is a disciple of those same systems, then that would mean your QB is also a direct beneficiary and in the same mold.  

     I'm only showing you how your own attempt at logic can be used against you.  That's all. No need or merit for debate or argument. 

  • @nickers said:

    Well you'll be riding DeSuck to a 6-11 record or worse..

    So, the Browns the fortunes are all dependent on Watson? If they indeed go 6-11 or worse, no one else would be at fault but Deshaun? 

    No QB could be successful behind that OL, and with a clown play caller. 

    But I do think Deshaun has much better chance at helping the Browns get to the playoffs than Winston would. Yes, some here are calling for Watson to be benched after only 3 games, and going with Winston. Sorry, but that would be panicking. Ask Saints fans about Winston. Careful what you wish for.

    @packernation said:

    So, the Browns the fortunes are all dependent on Watson? If they indeed go 6-11 or worse, no one else would be at fault but Deshaun? 

    No QB could be successful behind that OL, and with a clown play caller. 

    But I do think Deshaun has much better chance at helping the Browns get to the playoffs than Winston would. Yes, some here all calling for Watson to be benched after only 3 games, and going with Winston. Sorry, but that would be panicking. Ask Saints fans about Winston. Careful what you wish for.

    Winston is garbage too...

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Then there is Brock Purdy, the last pick of the 2022 draft.

    He's a star with the niners. With all the skills, why he was overlooked so long,

    is a mystery. The Browns need to find their guy, I don't care what college he comes from, and I don't care if he is rated top ten in the any of the football gurus ratings.

    Purdy has a far better and intact OL. He has enough time back there to make soup from scratch. Our QB is lucky to even get 2 seconds with this poorly conceived and now replete with injuries sham of an OL.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Purdy has a far better and intact OL. He has enough time back there to make soup from scratch. Our QB is lucky to even get 2 seconds with this poorly conceived and now replete with injuries sham of an OL.

    I'm not saying our o line is good or not, but is Watson holding the ball for too long?

    That'll make any o line look like garbage.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    Purdy has a far better and intact OL. He has enough time back there to make soup from scratch. Our QB is lucky to even get 2 seconds with this poorly conceived and now replete with injuries sham of an OL.

    I'm not saying our o line is good or not, but is Watson holding the ball for too long?

    That'll make any o line look like garbage.

    @jax said:

    I'm not saying our o line is good or not, but is Watson holding the ball for too long?

    That'll make any o line look like garbage.

    I think the only way you know for sure is put a stopwatch on every play where the ball remains in his hands. Surely some statistician somewhere has that information. I know from watching Purdy that he takes naps sometimes before throwing.??

  • @packernation said:

    @packernation said:

    But I don't think we would argue over the fact that J-Love is far more talented than Purdy. And J-Love could flourish in any offense, while Purdy could not.

     Purdy operates in an incredibly similar offense as Love, structural, play call, language, etc etc. And puts up numbers every bit as good if not better in a pretty tough division.  

     Only pointing out that if you feel Purdy isn't a "star* because of Shanahan's offense, yet MFL is a disciple of those same systems, then that would mean your QB is also a direct beneficiary and in the same mold.  

     I'm only showing you how your own attempt at logic can be used against you.  That's all. No need or merit for debate or argument. 

    @tiamat63 said:

     Purdy operates in an incredibly similar offense as Love, structural, play call, language, etc etc. And puts up numbers every bit as good if not better in a pretty tough division.  

     Only pointing out that if you feel Purdy isn't a "star* because of Shanahan's offense, yet MFL is a disciple of those same systems, then that would mean your QB is also a direct beneficiary and in the same mold.  

     I'm only showing you how your own attempt at logic can be used against you.  That's all. No need or merit for debate or argument. 

    I said J-Love does benefit from being in LaFleur's offense. I didn't say they don't play in similar offenses NOW. I stated that J-Love could flourish in ANY offense, and Purdy could not. 

  • @packernation said:

    So, the Browns the fortunes are all dependent on Watson? If they indeed go 6-11 or worse, no one else would be at fault but Deshaun? 

    No QB could be successful behind that OL, and with a clown play caller. 

    But I do think Deshaun has much better chance at helping the Browns get to the playoffs than Winston would. Yes, some here all calling for Watson to be benched after only 3 games, and going with Winston. Sorry, but that would be panicking. Ask Saints fans about Winston. Careful what you wish for.

    Winston is garbage too...

    @nickers said:

    Winston is garbage too...

    Ok, then you agree they should roll with Watson. He is not going anywhere, so the fans might as well roll with him too.

  • @jax said:

    I'm not saying our o line is good or not, but is Watson holding the ball for too long?

    That'll make any o line look like garbage.

    I think the only way you know for sure is put a stopwatch on every play where the ball remains in his hands. Surely some statistician somewhere has that information. I know from watching Purdy that he takes naps sometimes before throwing.??

    @texasag1969 said:

    I think the only way you know for sure is put a stopwatch on every play where the ball remains in his hands. Surely some statistician somewhere has that information. I know from watching Purdy that he takes naps sometimes before throwing.??

    With Watson and the Browns, it’s both. The Browns OLine is in shambles, and Watson has ALWAYS held onto the ball too long, dating back to Houston. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Purdy operates in an incredibly similar offense as Love, structural, play call, language, etc etc. And puts up numbers every bit as good if not better in a pretty tough division.  

     Only pointing out that if you feel Purdy isn't a "star* because of Shanahan's offense, yet MFL is a disciple of those same systems, then that would mean your QB is also a direct beneficiary and in the same mold.  

     I'm only showing you how your own attempt at logic can be used against you.  That's all. No need or merit for debate or argument. 

    I said J-Love does benefit from being in LaFleur's offense. I didn't say they don't play in similar offenses NOW. I stated that J-Love could flourish in ANY offense, and Purdy could not. 

    @packernation said:

    I said J-Love does benefit from being in LaFleur's offense. I didn't say they don't play in similar offenses NOW. I stated that J-Love could flourish in ANY offense, and Purdy could not. 

     And you have absolutely zero to support that apart from your fandom.   It's cool to hang onto that, but I don't do subjective to that level. I leave that to the (FAN)atics. 

    Good talk. 

  • @nickers said:

    Winston is garbage too...

    Ok, then you agree they should roll with Watson. He is not going anywhere, so the fans might as well roll with him too.

    @packernation said:

    Ok, then you agree they should roll with Watson. He is not going anywhere, so the fans might as well roll with him too.

    No I agree they should dump them both and get a real fucking QB... This season is done and DTR is not an AFC north QB... He's too puny and frail...

  • @packernation said:

    Ok, then you agree they should roll with Watson. He is not going anywhere, so the fans might as well roll with him too.

    No I agree they should dump them both and get a real fucking QB... This season is done and DTR is not an AFC north QB... He's too puny and frail...

    @nickers said:

    No I agree they should dump them both and get a real fucking QB... This season is done and DTR is not an AFC north QB... He's too puny and frail...

    DTR is a skinny dude. Nonetheless, if the wheels fall off, that’s who l want to see in there. He’s really the only QB we got with that mystique of the unknown about him, and that’s pretty exciting when you have no wheels. 

  • @nickers said:

    No I agree they should dump them both and get a real fucking QB... This season is done and DTR is not an AFC north QB... He's too puny and frail...

    DTR is a skinny dude. Nonetheless, if the wheels fall off, that’s who l want to see in there. He’s really the only QB we got with that mystique of the unknown about him, and that’s pretty exciting when you have no wheels. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    DTR is a skinny dude. Nonetheless, if the wheels fall off, that’s who l want to see in there. He’s really the only QB we got with that mystique of the unknown about him, and that’s pretty exciting when you have no wheels. 

    I really don't need to see him... He looks like trash too..

  • @packernation said:

    Ok, then you agree they should roll with Watson. He is not going anywhere, so the fans might as well roll with him too.

    No I agree they should dump them both and get a real fucking QB... This season is done and DTR is not an AFC north QB... He's too puny and frail...

    @nickers said:

    This season is done 

    Cool, see ya next year. 

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  • @packernation said:

    Ok, then you agree they should roll with Watson. He is not going anywhere, so the fans might as well roll with him too.

    No I agree they should dump them both and get a real fucking QB... This season is done and DTR is not an AFC north QB... He's too puny and frail...

    @nickers said:

     He's too puny and frail...

    Food for thought. 

    Height weight : 6′ 2″,205 lbs. - DTR

    Aaron Rogers....

    Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
    Weight: 213 lb (101 kg
  • @nickers said:

     He's too puny and frail...

    Food for thought. 

    Height weight : 6′ 2″,205 lbs. - DTR

    Aaron Rogers....

    Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
    Weight: 213 lb (101 kg

    @tiamat63 said:

    Food for thought. 

    Height weight : 6′ 2″,205 lbs. - DTR

    Aaron Rogers....

    Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
    Weight: 213 lb (101 kg

    A few bench presses and a couple milkshakes should get him there.

    Sorry in advance…

  • @nickers said:

     He's too puny and frail...

    Food for thought. 

    Height weight : 6′ 2″,205 lbs. - DTR

    Aaron Rogers....

    Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
    Weight: 213 lb (101 kg

    @tiamat63 said:

    Food for thought. 

    Height weight : 6′ 2″,205 lbs. - DTR

    Aaron Rogers....

    Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
    Weight: 213 lb (101 kg

    nickers

    5'6''

    115 lbs

    with bad acne and blue balls

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Food for thought. 

    Height weight : 6′ 2″,205 lbs. - DTR

    Aaron Rogers....

    Height: 6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)
    Weight: 213 lb (101 kg

    A few bench presses and a couple milkshakes should get him there.

    Sorry in advance…

    @ibleedbrown said:

    A few bench presses and a couple milkshakes should get him there.

    Sorry in advance…

    6'2 and skinny enough to get blown away by a wind storm... Desuck is only 6'1... they both suck...