The firings have begun
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Dorsey out, OL coach out
That's a start....Brerry, Depodesta next....in my dreams.
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Browns have a knack for letting talent out the door. Players, coaches, and FO.
Very true! We're in the mess we're in by the current FO. Everyone is gonna hang for it but them? If you can't evaluate the real problems - it's going to be impossible to see any other thing than history repeating itself.
Should we or shouldn't we demand more?
That said, the real problem is Jimmy is just as useless as the 99 year old female McCaskey that owns the Bears with her son that never followed football in charge of decisions like their fairly recent GM hire (Poles) and everything umbrellaed underneath. Jimmy can't hire worth a crap. A corrupt narcissist with too much money doesn't self evaluate - he only points fingers at everyone but himself....
Very true! We're in the mess we're in by the current FO. Everyone is gonna hang for it but them? If you can't evaluate the real problems - it's going to be impossible to see any other thing than history repeating itself.
Should we or shouldn't we demand more?
That said, the real problem is Jimmy is just as useless as the 99 year old female McCaskey that owns the Bears with her son that never followed football in charge of decisions like their fairly recent GM hire (Poles) and everything umbrellaed underneath. Jimmy can't hire worth a crap. A corrupt narcissist with too much money doesn't self evaluate - he only points fingers at everyone but himself....
More specifically, the Browns are only firing symptoms of the real disease killing this team.
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Just read something that Browns TE Tommy Rees is possibly an internal candidate for the OC job. He was in the running for the North Carolina head coach job that went to Bill Belichick.
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Just read something that Browns TE Tommy Rees is possibly an internal candidate for the OC job. He was in the running for the North Carolina head coach job that went to Bill Belichick.
Just read something that Browns TE Tommy Rees is possibly an internal candidate for the OC job. He was in the running for the North Carolina head coach job that went to Bill Belichick.
That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
And in other news
Bucs quarterback Baker Mayfield only has an average game tomorrow, he will join an elite group of quarterbacks where only one will not be a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Mayfield is one touchdown and 221 passing yards shy of this elite group. Only nine quarterbacks have thrown for 40 touchdowns and 4,500 passing yards in the same season.
The list of the group reads like a Who’s Who of quarterbacks in the past 40 years. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Joe Burrow, Andrew Luck, Pat Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, drama queen Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford.
The only quarterback on that list who will not be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Manning and Marino are already in) is Andrew Luck. His career was cut short due to injuries.
Also, if Mayfield throws for one touchdown pass, he will become only the second Bucs quarterback to throw for at least 40 touchdowns in a season. Brady did this with the Bucs in 2020 and 2021
Fire everyone!!
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And in other news
Bucs quarterback Baker Mayfield only has an average game tomorrow, he will join an elite group of quarterbacks where only one will not be a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Mayfield is one touchdown and 221 passing yards shy of this elite group. Only nine quarterbacks have thrown for 40 touchdowns and 4,500 passing yards in the same season.
The list of the group reads like a Who’s Who of quarterbacks in the past 40 years. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Joe Burrow, Andrew Luck, Pat Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, drama queen Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford.
The only quarterback on that list who will not be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Manning and Marino are already in) is Andrew Luck. His career was cut short due to injuries.
Also, if Mayfield throws for one touchdown pass, he will become only the second Bucs quarterback to throw for at least 40 touchdowns in a season. Brady did this with the Bucs in 2020 and 2021
Fire everyone!!
And in other news
Bucs quarterback Baker Mayfield only has an average game tomorrow, he will join an elite group of quarterbacks where only one will not be a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Mayfield is one touchdown and 221 passing yards shy of this elite group. Only nine quarterbacks have thrown for 40 touchdowns and 4,500 passing yards in the same season.
The list of the group reads like a Who’s Who of quarterbacks in the past 40 years. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Joe Burrow, Andrew Luck, Pat Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, drama queen Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford.
The only quarterback on that list who will not be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Manning and Marino are already in) is Andrew Luck. His career was cut short due to injuries.
Also, if Mayfield throws for one touchdown pass, he will become only the second Bucs quarterback to throw for at least 40 touchdowns in a season. Brady did this with the Bucs in 2020 and 2021
Fire everyone!!
LOL! Mayfield will not be in the Hall of Fame. Just his teammate Mike Evans on first eligibility year.
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Just read something that Browns TE Tommy Rees is possibly an internal candidate for the OC job. He was in the running for the North Carolina head coach job that went to Bill Belichick.
That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
They DO lead the league in presnap penalties
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
And in other news
Bucs quarterback Baker Mayfield only has an average game tomorrow, he will join an elite group of quarterbacks where only one will not be a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Mayfield is one touchdown and 221 passing yards shy of this elite group. Only nine quarterbacks have thrown for 40 touchdowns and 4,500 passing yards in the same season.
The list of the group reads like a Who’s Who of quarterbacks in the past 40 years. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Joe Burrow, Andrew Luck, Pat Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, drama queen Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford.
The only quarterback on that list who will not be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Manning and Marino are already in) is Andrew Luck. His career was cut short due to injuries.
Also, if Mayfield throws for one touchdown pass, he will become only the second Bucs quarterback to throw for at least 40 touchdowns in a season. Brady did this with the Bucs in 2020 and 2021
Fire everyone!!
LOL! Mayfield will not be in the Hall of Fame. Just his teammate Mike Evans on first eligibility year.
LOL! Mayfield will not be in the Hall of Fame. Just his teammate Mike Evans on first eligibility year.
I don't think anyone is saying he should be in the hall of fame at this time. He is putting up outstanding numbers. If the Bucs had a semi decent defense Baker would be in the talks for MVP.
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That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
They DO lead the league in presnap penalties
They DO lead the league in presnap penalties
Impossible with a 2x coach of the year - sorry I couldn't help myself
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Just read something that Browns TE Tommy Rees is possibly an internal candidate for the OC job. He was in the running for the North Carolina head coach job that went to Bill Belichick.
That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
The shotgun run plays seem to take FOREVER. The QB takes way too long to hand the ball off. By the time the RB has the ball the d-line is in the back field
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Just read something that Browns TE Tommy Rees is possibly an internal candidate for the OC job. He was in the running for the North Carolina head coach job that went to Bill Belichick.
That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
I have no idea.
Move the offense back to what Stefanski did before.
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LOL! Mayfield will not be in the Hall of Fame. Just his teammate Mike Evans on first eligibility year.
I don't think anyone is saying he should be in the hall of fame at this time. He is putting up outstanding numbers. If the Bucs had a semi decent defense Baker would be in the talks for MVP.
I don't think anyone is saying he should be in the hall of fame at this time. He is putting up outstanding numbers. If the Bucs had a semi decent defense Baker would be in the talks for MVP.
Charmin Soft Schedule every year playing down in Tampa Bay.
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And in other news
Bucs quarterback Baker Mayfield only has an average game tomorrow, he will join an elite group of quarterbacks where only one will not be a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Mayfield is one touchdown and 221 passing yards shy of this elite group. Only nine quarterbacks have thrown for 40 touchdowns and 4,500 passing yards in the same season.
The list of the group reads like a Who’s Who of quarterbacks in the past 40 years. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Joe Burrow, Andrew Luck, Pat Mahomes, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, drama queen Aaron Rodgers and Matt Stafford.
The only quarterback on that list who will not be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame (Manning and Marino are already in) is Andrew Luck. His career was cut short due to injuries.
Also, if Mayfield throws for one touchdown pass, he will become only the second Bucs quarterback to throw for at least 40 touchdowns in a season. Brady did this with the Bucs in 2020 and 2021
Fire everyone!!
LOL! Mayfield will not be in the Hall of Fame. Just his teammate Mike Evans on first eligibility year.
LOL! Mayfield will not be in the Hall of Fame. Just his teammate Mike Evans on first eligibility year.
Mike Evans: Making Mediocre Fun-Sized White QBs Relevant Since 2012! ?
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Don't forget DePud
How many more scapegoats can they keep firing while this guy believes numbers mean more than film explaining numbers? That was the fallout between John Dorsey and Depodicksuck.
Per Google, here's John Dorsey's walk in this league:
John Dorsey is a senior personnel executive for the Detroit Lions. He joined the Lions in 2021 and is currently in his fourth season with the team. Dorsey is known for his talent scouting skills and has worked for several NFL teams, including the Kansas City Chiefs and the Cleveland Browns:-
Kansas City Chiefs: Dorsey drafted Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelce.
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Cleveland Browns: Dorsey was the general manager for three years, adding talent like Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward, and Nick Chubb.
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Philadelphia Eagles: Dorsey spent 2020 as a consultant, helping with college and pro scouting.
Dorsey was a key contributor to the 2023 roster construction that helped the Lions to a 12-5 record.How many more scapegoats can they keep firing while this guy believes numbers mean more than film explaining numbers? That was the fallout between John Dorsey and Depodicksuck.
Per Google, here's John Dorsey's walk in this league:
John Dorsey is a senior personnel executive for the Detroit Lions. He joined the Lions in 2021 and is currently in his fourth season with the team. Dorsey is known for his talent scouting skills and has worked for several NFL teams, including the Kansas City Chiefs and the Cleveland Browns:-
Kansas City Chiefs: Dorsey drafted Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelce.
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Cleveland Browns: Dorsey was the general manager for three years, adding talent like Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward, and Nick Chubb.
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Philadelphia Eagles: Dorsey spent 2020 as a consultant, helping with college and pro scouting.
Dorsey was a key contributor to the 2023 roster construction that helped the Lions to a 12-5 record.I'd welcome Dorsey back. I believe he did two stints in Green Bay.
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Kansas City Chiefs: Dorsey drafted Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelce.
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How many more scapegoats can they keep firing while this guy believes numbers mean more than film explaining numbers? That was the fallout between John Dorsey and Depodicksuck.
Per Google, here's John Dorsey's walk in this league:
John Dorsey is a senior personnel executive for the Detroit Lions. He joined the Lions in 2021 and is currently in his fourth season with the team. Dorsey is known for his talent scouting skills and has worked for several NFL teams, including the Kansas City Chiefs and the Cleveland Browns:-
Kansas City Chiefs: Dorsey drafted Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelce.
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Cleveland Browns: Dorsey was the general manager for three years, adding talent like Baker Mayfield, Denzel Ward, and Nick Chubb.
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Philadelphia Eagles: Dorsey spent 2020 as a consultant, helping with college and pro scouting.
Dorsey was a key contributor to the 2023 roster construction that helped the Lions to a 12-5 record.I'd welcome Dorsey back. I believe he did two stints in Green Bay.
I'd welcome Dorsey back. I believe he did two stints in Green Bay.
I'd offer him whatever he wants! But consider the organizations. Green Bay has been a solid club for decades. Compare them to our organization. I'm not sure he would want to come back.
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Kansas City Chiefs: Dorsey drafted Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, and Travis Kelce.
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That might not be bad; but is that more to keep much of the recent offenses they have had here than consider changes needed? Our run and pass plays seem like they take forever to set up. Even worse, it feels like the Browns lead the NFL with pre-snap penalties on the offensive side of the ball.
The shotgun run plays seem to take FOREVER. The QB takes way too long to hand the ball off. By the time the RB has the ball the d-line is in the back field
The shotgun run plays seem to take FOREVER. The QB takes way too long to hand the ball off. By the time the RB has the ball the d-line is in the back field
That's exactly what I mean. In the olden days teams used to do a quick pitch backward to RBs in a Pro Set to get them outside as quickly as possible. More recently that changed to a swing pass to the RB just slightly forward to the outside in lieu of a diagonal pitch backward to the outside. This eventually morphed into passes to the RB in the flats. Nobody is on the same page except for cohesive confusion about what they're supposed to do.
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Get back under the center. Invest in the OLine this off-season. Add another good TE to go with Njoku and run multi-TE sets. Use play-action. Draft a QB that Stefanski feels he can work with long-term in the mid-rounds as a legit backup at worst. Get Kirk Cousins to start next year. Scout 2026 Draft-eligible QBs.
As I was writing this, I'm watching ESPN. Rex Ryan was bitching about how Atlanta used Cousins this year. "People say he's done, he had a horrible year, well he's a great play-action, under the center QB.... which Atlanta never ran!" ?
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I'd offer him whatever he wants! But consider the organizations. Green Bay has been a solid club for decades. Compare them to our organization. I'm not sure he would want to come back.
I'd be shocked.
For that to even be a chance in hell, DePodesta would have to be fired.
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Get back under the center. Invest in the OLine this off-season. Add another good TE to go with Njoku and run multi-TE sets. Use play-action. Draft a QB that Stefanski feels he can work with long-term in the mid-rounds as a legit backup at worst. Get Kirk Cousins to start next year. Scout 2026 Draft-eligible QBs.
As I was writing this, I'm watching ESPN. Rex Ryan was bitching about how Atlanta used Cousins this year. "People say he's done, he had a horrible year, well he's a great play-action, under the center QB.... which Atlanta never ran!" ?
Get back under the center. Invest in the OLine this off-season. Add another good TE to go with Njoku and run multi-TE sets. Use play-action. Draft a QB that Stefanski feels he can work with long-term in the mid-rounds as a legit backup at worst. Get Kirk Cousins to start next year. Scout 2026 Draft-eligible QBs.
As I was writing this, I'm watching ESPN. Rex Ryan was bitching about how Atlanta used Cousins this year. "People say he's done, he had a horrible year, well he's a great play-action, under the center QB.... which Atlanta never ran!" ?
Old vs new - these colleges QBs almost never play under center. It's got to be difficult to design an offense for 2 different types of QBs.
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I'd be shocked.
For that to even be a chance in hell, DePodesta would have to be fired.
We can only hope!
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