Currently our 2025 first round pick is....
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Excellent, spirited, passionate conversation regarding the QB's! I love it.
But, back to today: Our #1 need is for the Titans to win their game. If we can get to #2 then at least one of the 2 QB's will be there.....to be debated about.
#2 is a Patriots win. Same thing here except for sure one of the QB's will be gone.
If both the Patriots & Titans win, then we are king of the hill (of course I'm assuming that strength of schedule puts the Giants behind us).
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Another thing that is disgusting - the amount of all 22 on Shadeur vs about any other QB.
I'm trying to get through, at minimum, 6-8 games of each. Sanders was easy to dig up. Cam? Not so much.
For anyone wanted to jump in and talk some football, possibly follow along with my eval while I take a break from writing about the Browns season, you're more than welcomed too.
How many QBs do you think you'll evaluate?
I'd love to see your thoughts on why Beck regressed (his roster definitely was not as good as 2023), why Kyle McCord is still so low in the rankings, what other QBs you think would be worth a mid-round pick.
How many QBs do you think you'll evaluate?
I'd love to see your thoughts on why Beck regressed (his roster definitely was not as good as 2023), why Kyle McCord is still so low in the rankings, what other QBs you think would be worth a mid-round pick.
My focus this year will be offense. I'd like to get the top 8 done, before moving onto the Oline (really miss Tour for this one)
McCord still has the albatross of his play in the B1G around his neck. The 'Cuse schedule, defensively speaking, was also pretty smooth. The Orange aired the fuck out of the ball and the top defense they played clocked in at 28th (UNLV) while getting assists in playing Miami (90th) PITT (91st) Ga Tech (72) etc etc.
Syracuse didn't stop most offenses and most didn't stop them. Plus McCord had processing speed and ball placement issues at times in his OSU career. Some of them mental, others mechanically. Remains to be seen if those are fixed or if the step down in defensive competition caused the stat explosion?
I'll get back to you on both. But QB's "worth" a mid-round pick? Likely none. I don't see anything I could get in the 3rd that couldn't be had in the 5th at the moment.
I'm sure Will Howards name will come up from proximity alone. But I struggle to find any real difference between him and JT Barrett.
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Haven't read through the whole thread but what do you guys think about Abdul Carter, the edge from Penn State for our 1st pick? Wouldn't he be more of an immediate impact player opposite Myles and also insurance if Myles demands a trade?
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Haven't read through the whole thread but what do you guys think about Abdul Carter, the edge from Penn State for our 1st pick? Wouldn't he be more of an immediate impact player opposite Myles and also insurance if Myles demands a trade?
Haven't read through the whole thread but what do you guys think about Abdul Carter, the edge from Penn State for our 1st pick? Wouldn't he be more of an immediate impact player opposite Myles and also insurance if Myles demands a trade?
He's definitely on the short-list of players that should be considered at the top of the draft for me.
The Browns need a dynamic edge player regardless if Myles will be on the roster in 2025 or not.
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Haven't read through the whole thread but what do you guys think about Abdul Carter, the edge from Penn State for our 1st pick? Wouldn't he be more of an immediate impact player opposite Myles and also insurance if Myles demands a trade?
He's definitely on the short-list of players that should be considered at the top of the draft for me.
The Browns need a dynamic edge player regardless if Myles will be on the roster in 2025 or not.
He's definitely on the short-list of players that should be considered at the top of the draft for me.
The Browns need a dynamic edge player regardless if Myles will be on the roster in 2025 or not.
Improving the defense will probably give us more bang for the buck than shooting for questionable QBs in the first round.
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He's definitely on the short-list of players that should be considered at the top of the draft for me.
The Browns need a dynamic edge player regardless if Myles will be on the roster in 2025 or not.
Improving the defense will probably give us more bang for the buck than shooting for questionable QBs in the first round.
Improving the defense will probably give us more bang for the buck than shooting for questionable QBs in the first round.
If a Justin Herbert-type guy was sitting at top of the draft, I'd be all for it.
But yes, there are a ton of DLine guys specifically that I like, along with OTackles.
I'm hoping we finish #1, and trade down.
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There's no 1st rd talent (generational imo) at QB. We have 2nd pick overall. What kind of haul could we get for that. Would have to be pretty good.
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There's no 1st rd talent (generational imo) at QB. We have 2nd pick overall. What kind of haul could we get for that. Would have to be pretty good.
There's no 1st rd talent (generational imo) at QB. We have 2nd pick overall. What kind of haul could we get for that. Would have to be pretty good.
Well, according to your 1st phrase...who the hell would trade with us? That would be stupid wouldn't it?
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Well, according to your 1st phrase...who the hell would trade with us? That would be stupid wouldn't it?
There are other stupid teams. We are not the only one
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There's no 1st rd talent (generational imo) at QB. We have 2nd pick overall. What kind of haul could we get for that. Would have to be pretty good.
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There are other stupid teams. We are not the only one
Fact
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Agreed. Generation talent means once in a generation. You rarely have those in the draft.
Cam Ward is very good and could become great if the Browns organization was top notch, presently it is too disorganized to nurture talent. Lamarr Jackson wasn't considered a great QB in his draft but look at where he is now with a stable organization and good coaching.
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Agreed. Generation talent means once in a generation. You rarely have those in the draft.
Cam Ward is very good and could become great if the Browns organization was top notch, presently it is too disorganized to nurture talent. Lamarr Jackson wasn't considered a great QB in his draft but look at where he is now with a stable organization and good coaching.
Cam Ward is very good and could become great if the Browns organization was top notch, presently it is too disorganized to nurture talent. Lamarr Jackson wasn't considered a great QB in his draft but look at where he is now with a stable organization and good coaching.
I'd 100% take Cam at #2. I wouldn't be surprised if the Titans take him #1 though.
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Trade back and build up draft capital
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
So... initial games and rough charting of Cam Ward done. Hear me out on this Cam Fans.
Cam Ward - 6'2 (ish) 220lbs. Elongated slow throwing motion, slow mechanics, inconsistent delivery and questionable footwork.
Mystery QB - 6'1 3/8(ish) 219lbs. Elongated, slow throwing motion, slow mechanics, inconsistent delivery and questionable footwork.
Both have a release that tends to push the ball out with an inconsistent nose trajectory that either has it drive downwards or upwards with too much air, sapping downfield accuracy and velocity. Both have a style that leads to batted passes at the line with a flat release, the mystery QB slightly more-so. Both have a similar athletic profile with similar first step take-off speed and aren't great at navigating decaying pocket integrity with intent to distribute off-schedule but to initial read-side structure.
Both played in the same conference and put up amazing numbers.
One is viewed as an initial mid-round pick, the other possibly as the #2 overall QB and I'm sure with "whispers" of #1.
Both faced a schedule of defenses that rank in the bottom 1/3 in all of CFB collectively.
Who is the mystery QB?
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Trade back and build up draft capital
smoke weed and let someone else figure it out
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So... initial games and rough charting of Cam Ward done. Hear me out on this Cam Fans.
Cam Ward - 6'2 (ish) 220lbs. Elongated slow throwing motion, slow mechanics, inconsistent delivery and questionable footwork.
Mystery QB - 6'1 3/8(ish) 219lbs. Elongated, slow throwing motion, slow mechanics, inconsistent delivery and questionable footwork.
Both have a release that tends to push the ball out with an inconsistent nose trajectory that either has it drive downwards or upwards with too much air, sapping downfield accuracy and velocity. Both have a style that leads to batted passes at the line with a flat release, the mystery QB slightly more-so. Both have a similar athletic profile with similar first step take-off speed and aren't great at navigating decaying pocket integrity with intent to distribute off-schedule but to initial read-side structure.
Both played in the same conference and put up amazing numbers.
One is viewed as an initial mid-round pick, the other possibly as the #2 overall QB and I'm sure with "whispers" of #1.
Both faced a schedule of defenses that rank in the bottom 1/3 in all of CFB collectively.
Who is the mystery QB?
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