Currently our 2025 first round pick is....
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Abdul Carter with one arm is looking good tonight.
Travis Hunter... Mason Graham... Will Johnson... Carter...
I really like the first round this year.
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The runner up game. Rock fight.
Enjoy the fireworks tomorrow.
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Allar got saved on an absolutely horrible interception by that pass interference.
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Allar, ouch real bad throw, INT with 35 seconds to go...
I really want to like the kid, on paper he has attributes you want... but there just is something missing with this kid.
I know his WRs suck, but when push comes to shove he just seems so pedestrian.
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I really want to like the kid, on paper he has attributes you want... but there just is something missing with this kid.
I know his WRs suck, but when push comes to shove he just seems so pedestrian.
It's his accuracy, his ball placement. Even when he isn't pressured.
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Here's a recently updated Top 10 QB Rankings from Mel Kiper. There's a few I disagree so I imagine some of you will find some head-scratchers. That said, nice to where there's a Will there's a way staring us right between the lookers at #7. If you click on the link below it starts with his Top 10 QBs and then it shows his Top 25 rated players.
The College Football Playoff semifinals are set, meaning only four teams remain in the 12-team bracket. That means prospects around the country are ramping up their preparation for the 2025 NFL Draft, and ESPN’s Mel Kiper Jr. made some big changes to his Top 10 QB rankings.
Kiper’s top two quarterbacks stayed the same from last week’s update. Colorado star Shedeur Sanders and Miami standout Cam Ward remain No. 1 and No. 2, respectively, after their respective bowl games. But there was plenty of movement the rest of the way, including one player who jumped up four spots to No. 3.
The evaluation process for the 2025 NFL Draft is going to pick up soon ahead of next month’s NFL Scouting Combine. Here’s where Kiper’s Top 10 QB rankings stand ahead of the CFP semifinals.
1. Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
Throughout the year, the debate has been whether Shedeur Sanders would be the top quarterback on the board. Mel Kiper Jr. continues to project him in the top spot following Colorado’s Alamo Bowl loss to BYU.
Sanders completed an impressive 2024 season to close out his college career. He completed 74% of his passes – the best rate in the country – for 4,171 yards and 37 touchdowns, along with just seven interceptions, to help spark Colorado’s turnaround under his father, Deion Sanders.
2. Cam Ward, Miami
The other quarterback consistently discussed atop draft boards, Cam Ward increased his stock in a big way this season. He finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting as he led Miami’s high-powered offense.
The former Washington State quarterback put up monster numbers, throwing for 4,313 yards and an FBS-leading 39 touchdowns. He comes in as Mel Kiper Jr.’s No. 2-ranked quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft, but is sure to be in the conversation for the top pick thanks to his ability to improvise.
3. Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss
The biggest mover in Mel Kiper Jr.’s rankings, Jaxson Dart is now the No. 3-ranked quarterback after coming in at No. 7 just a week ago. The Ole Miss standout completed his historic career in Oxford during Thursday’s Gator Bowl, and his stock is on the rise.
Dart finished his third year under Lane Kiffin on a high note. He set the program record for passing yards, and threw for 4,279 this season to boost his draft stock and create an interesting conversation for evaluators.
4. Jalen Milroe, Alabama
In his first year under Kalen DeBoer, Jalen Milroe had an up-and-down go at Alabama. His evaluation process will surely be one to watch considering his dual-threat ability, and Mel Kiper Jr. ranked him as his No. 4 quarterback in the draft.
Milroe threw for 2,844 yards and 16 touchdowns, along with 11 interceptions, but set a new career-high with 726 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns on the ground. That adds to the intrigue about how teams will assess his stock through the pre-draft process.
5. Carson Beck, Georgia
Perhaps the most interesting evaluation in the draft, Carson Beck started the year as the virtual consensus top quarterback prospect. A rollercoaster season and late injury meant he fell down draft boards, though, and added to the uncertainty around where he’d go after declaring.
Beck threw for 3,485 yards and a career-high 28 touchdowns, but his 12 interceptions led the SEC thanks to a tough stretch mid-season. To make his prospects even more interesting, he suffered a torn UCL in the SEC Championship that required surgery, although Georgia said he should be able to start throwing come spring.
6. Quinn Ewers, Texas
Quinn Ewers presents another intriguing case for evaluators. The Texas quarterback set a career-high with 29 touchdown passes in 13 games, but he also has 11 interceptions to his name amid an up-and-down year.
Ewers delivered when it mattered, though, in the Longhorns’ College Football Playoff quarterfinal game against Arizona State. On 4th-and-13 in overtime, he threw the game-tying touchdown pass to Matthew Golden and proceeded to find Gunnar Helm for the game-winner in the second OT period to send Texas to the Cotton Bowl.
7. Will Howard, Ohio State
Ohio State found a new gear through the College Football Playoff, and Will Howard is a big reason why. He has been red-hot during the postseason and he appears at No. 7 in Mel Kiper Jr.’s Top 10 QB rankings after not making the cut last week.
Howard is in the midst of the best year of his college career after transferring from Kansas State, throwing for 3,498 yards and 32 touchdowns. His connection with true freshman Jeremiah Smith kickstarted the offense through the Buckeyes’ first two CFP games, setting up an exciting matchup against Texas in the Cotton Bowl.
8. Tyler Shough, Louisville
In his seventh year of college football – and only one at Louisville – Tyler Shough delivered the best numbers of his career. He also moved up to No. 8 in Mel Kiper’s Top 10 QB rankings this week amid the shakeup.
Shough threw for 3,149 yards and 23 yards, setting new career-highs in both categories. He previously spent three years at both Oregon and Texas Tech, but could see what lies ahead at the NFL level now that his college days are over.
9. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
After a decorated career at Ohio, Kurtis Rourke opted to join Curt Cignetti at Indiana in 2024. That led him to a spot in the Top 10 in the Heisman Trophy voting and a College Football Playoff appearance amid the Hoosiers’ historic season.
Rourke threw for 3,042 yards and a career-high 29 touchdowns to help lead the IU offense into the CFP. He also quietly played with a partially torn ACL, NFL Network’s Tom Pelissero reported, which shows his toughness that could make an impression on scouts ahead of the pre-draft process.
10. Riley Leonard, Notre Dame
Another true dual-threat, Riley Leonard has shown his ability to beat teams with both his arm and his legs. That especially proved true in the Sugar Bowl against Georgia when he had 170 total yards – 90 passing and 80 rushing.
Leonard’s legs are a big reason why he’s so dangerous as he totaled 831 rushing yards and 15 touchdowns. But he also showed growth as a passer, completing 66.1% of his passes for 2,383 yards and 18 touchdowns – and he appeared in Mel Kiper Jr.’s Top 10 QB rankings as Notre Dame gets ready for the Orange Bowl.
Carson Beck has just announced he's entering the transfer portal.
Carson Beck has just announced he's entering the transfer portal.
That's probably a good thing for him. He's kind of streaky and throws a lot of INTs for being on a team with as much offensive talent as UGA surrounds him with. He needed to perform at least to the level Stetson Bennett did previously and was closer to doing so in 2023 IMO. I know he had an injury at the very end of this past season so he missed the SEC Championship and 1st round of the playoffs. Last I knew, Bennett was on the Rams roster heading into 2024 listed 3rd on the depth chart behind Jimmy Garoppolo. The biggest difference between the 2 QBs is Bennett was only 5'11". Consequently, he didn't get drafted until the 4th round by a team that already has Matthew Stafford. Beck is 6'4"so I'm guessing he goes higher than round 4 when he comes out in 2026 if he has a great season wherever he transfers to (rumors about Miami).
2022 Bennett had 27 TD 7 INT 68.3 comp% 4128 yards and added 10 rushing TDs. In 2021 he threw 29 TD 7 INT. UGA was tough to beat those 2 years winning back to back championships.
2024 Beck had 28 TD 12 INT 64.7 comp% 3485 yards and added 1 rushing TD in his 5th year in the program. In 2023 he threw 22 TD 6 INT 72.4 comp% 3737 yards and 4 rushing TDs.
Last I knew, Bennett was on the Rams roster heading into 2024 listed 3rd on the depth chart behind Jimmy Garoppolo.
I don't know how much any of that means above; but if Beck had some inconsistencies where the surrounding talent was elite (he'd be on prozac in Cleveland quicker than Ricky Williams needed it in New Orleans).
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I really want to like the kid, on paper he has attributes you want... but there just is something missing with this kid.
I know his WRs suck, but when push comes to shove he just seems so pedestrian.
It's his accuracy, his ball placement. Even when he isn't pressured.
It's his accuracy, his ball placement. Even when he isn't pressured.
I was more impressed with Notre Dame's back up QB who led his team to their first points the brief period Riley Leonard left the game. And it wasn't like he had much time to throw.
I didn't know Allar is from Cleveland and his family are huge Browns fans. Poor kid grew up watching some horrible role models at QB here. He's way too young to have witnessed Kosar and Sipe; but I'm sure his dad stirred his interest talking about them like my dad did with Graham and Ryan...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Couldn't tell you. What made Vince Young, Anthony Richardson, Tim Tebow and Brady Quinn 1st round picks?
Not that this means anything - he's moved up Kiper's list to the 7th ranked QB.
Cardale Jones was a fill-in starter. Great athlete but my guess is outside of a couple BCS Games or so - he was too inconsistent to trust as the fulltime starter longer term.
All the players you listed had some sort of elite physical talents. Brady at least played in an offense similar to what the Patriots ran at the time. So that 'pro-minded' appeal was there.
Even though there were things he struggled with that were made clear as early as the 2005 bowl season.
Will seems to have the requisite size (two inches on JT) and I always thought while Barrett wasn’t a shrimp he didn’t stand tall in the pocket. Both had/have leadership qualities you look for in a QB.
Cardale was always a wildcard as a prospect he had 11 starts in college. And he had his infamous line where you wondered is this guy going to study and digest a playbook and run an NFL offense?
Probably an imperfect comparison on both fronts.
I suppose my point is made for me. JT produced as much as Howard despite being 6'2. So we're essentially pointing at Will being 6'4 and on a national championship team as the reasons. That would historically value him as a 5th rounder.
Kurtis Roarke is the QB l like as a mid round guy to get. Tall pocket passer type guy who had a heckuva season for IU. Any thoughts on him?
He's on my list, will get back to you. I'm shooting for write-ups on the top 8.
Brady at least played in an offense similar to what the Patriots ran at the time. So that 'pro-minded' appeal was there.
Is that because of Charlie Weiss?
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
It's his accuracy, his ball placement. Even when he isn't pressured.
I was more impressed with Notre Dame's back up QB who led his team to their first points the brief period Riley Leonard left the game. And it wasn't like he had much time to throw.
I didn't know Allar is from Cleveland and his family are huge Browns fans. Poor kid grew up watching some horrible role models at QB here. He's way too young to have witnessed Kosar and Sipe; but I'm sure his dad stirred his interest talking about them like my dad did with Graham and Ryan...
I didn't know Allar is from Cleveland and his family are huge Browns fans. Poor kid grew up watching some horrible role models at QB here.
He’s actually from Medina, I watched him play in a few high school games when I lived there. He took them to the playoffs during his senior year.
He was also voted as Ohio’s Mr Football.
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It's his accuracy, his ball placement. Even when he isn't pressured.
I was more impressed with Notre Dame's back up QB who led his team to their first points the brief period Riley Leonard left the game. And it wasn't like he had much time to throw.
I didn't know Allar is from Cleveland and his family are huge Browns fans. Poor kid grew up watching some horrible role models at QB here. He's way too young to have witnessed Kosar and Sipe; but I'm sure his dad stirred his interest talking about them like my dad did with Graham and Ryan...
I was more impressed with Notre Dame's back up QB who led his team to their first points the brief period Riley Leonard left the game. And it wasn't like he had much time to throw.
I didn't know Allar is from Cleveland and his family are huge Browns fans. Poor kid grew up watching some horrible role models at QB here. He's way too young to have witnessed Kosar and Sipe; but I'm sure his dad stirred his interest talking about them like my dad did with Graham and Ryan...
It's interesting watching Ward and Allar because I believe they have a similar weakness - accuracy and footwork coming off their primary.
The final INT last night was Allar moving front side 1 to 2 then backside 3. Which was open depending on ball placement. I'm not saying Drew's WRs are good - they aren't, but that doesn't mean if affects his ball placement.
There was a throw I vividly remember Ward had against Duke. It was a corner blitz from the boundary with a 3 deep, 3 under behind it. He went from the boundary where the pressure was coming from, then resets back to strength and mis-fired on a dig from a dagger concept.
It's probably the most common issue with all of these young QBs. These coaches do a great job setting up 1 & 2, then they use their legs to create space because working from a tight pocket gives them anxiety. So they aren't familiar with having to reset and maintaining good fundamentals of footwork and passing form. The accuracy suffers disproportionately to previous generations of QBs.
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Is that because of Charlie Weiss?
Exactly. Weiss brought over a lot of the personnel groupings, formations and play structures they ran in New England. It was a huge talking point early when NoD started the season 4-1 that first year under Charlie.
It was also something they used as a selling point when Quinn went pro.
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Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
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Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
Committed to Miami.
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Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
I'd also think the Penn St staff will start recruiting WRs for the April transfer portal...
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Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
Beck going to Miami seems to be the hot rumor
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Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
How funny would it be if he transferred to Ohio State?
I’m cool with starting the Julian Sayin era though
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I was more impressed with Notre Dame's back up QB who led his team to their first points the brief period Riley Leonard left the game. And it wasn't like he had much time to throw.
I didn't know Allar is from Cleveland and his family are huge Browns fans. Poor kid grew up watching some horrible role models at QB here. He's way too young to have witnessed Kosar and Sipe; but I'm sure his dad stirred his interest talking about them like my dad did with Graham and Ryan...
It's interesting watching Ward and Allar because I believe they have a similar weakness - accuracy and footwork coming off their primary.
The final INT last night was Allar moving front side 1 to 2 then backside 3. Which was open depending on ball placement. I'm not saying Drew's WRs are good - they aren't, but that doesn't mean if affects his ball placement.
There was a throw I vividly remember Ward had against Duke. It was a corner blitz from the boundary with a 3 deep, 3 under behind it. He went from the boundary where the pressure was coming from, then resets back to strength and mis-fired on a dig from a dagger concept.
It's probably the most common issue with all of these young QBs. These coaches do a great job setting up 1 & 2, then they use their legs to create space because working from a tight pocket gives them anxiety. So they aren't familiar with having to reset and maintaining good fundamentals of footwork and passing form. The accuracy suffers disproportionately to previous generations of QBs.
It's interesting watching Ward and Allar because I believe they have a similar weakness - accuracy and footwork coming off their primary.
The final INT last night was Allar moving front side 1 to 2 then backside 3. Which was open depending on ball placement. I'm not saying Drew's WRs are good - they aren't, but that doesn't mean if affects his ball placement.
There was a throw I vividly remember Ward had against Duke. It was a corner blitz from the boundary with a 3 deep, 3 under behind it. He went from the boundary where the pressure was coming from, then resets back to strength and mis-fired on a dig from a dagger concept.
It's probably the most common issue with all of these young QBs. These coaches do a great job setting up 1 & 2, then they use their legs to create space because working from a tight pocket gives them anxiety. So they aren't familiar with having to reset and maintaining good fundamentals of footwork and passing form. The accuracy suffers disproportionately to previous generations of QBs.
Well presented! Wait til they arrive at a league full of defenses with better foot speed and closing speed at the next level. If they're not speed reading the progressions and throwing late - they'll be throwing picks. Having said that, in the time many of them spend looking to the sidelines for the signal for the next play in college - at the next level they can break the huddle quickly and get into formation for their pre-snap reads in front of them. The kids that work at that - expedite their accuracy, comfort and being on time to make good stuff happen. There's a lot to process at first so a good organized coaching staff is an essential. Meanwhile this team has a lot of pre snap penalties that needs to be cleaned up.
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Allar should transfer and I don’t know where. Get better tutelage. 5 star no WRs and not progressing to the level you would like to see. And his all world TE is gone.
Beck seems like a good fit for Michigan.
How funny would it be if he transferred to Ohio State?
I’m cool with starting the Julian Sayin era though
How funny would it be if he transferred to Ohio State?
I’m cool with starting the Julian Sayin era though
It would be a good move for him. See Justin Fields and Will Howard.
Im a little worried next year about the QB and RB spots at OSU.
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