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Myles Garrett Requests Trade

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  • @syd said:

    why should he the browns fucking suck, I wouldn't want to play for them either

    Well a signed contract is an agreement between 2 parties. 

    I had season tickets, and was forced to watch DTR. Nothing I could do about it.

    If the Browns give in & trade him, look out. The NFL could turn into the NBA, not good.

    @bob806 said:

    I had season tickets

    Bob i like ya but no one put a gun to your head to recklessly throw away your money

    @bob806 said:

    If the Browns give in & trade him, look out.

    I believe it has happened before and if the players got all uppity the owners could just lock them out, not many would survive, Don't forget who has all the power

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    @bob806 said:

    I had season tickets

    Bob i like ya but no one put a gun to your head to recklessly throw away your money

    @bob806 said:

    If the Browns give in & trade him, look out.

    I believe it has happened before and if the players got all uppity the owners could just lock them out, not many would survive, Don't forget who has all the power

    @syd said:

    Bob i like ya but no one put a gun to your head to recklessly throw away your money

    I always looked at it as part of my entertainment budget. But this front office has taken the "entertainment" away with stupid decisions.

    I believe it has happened before and if the players got all uppity the owners could just lock them out, not many would survive, Don't forget who has all the power

    Right, the owners/management always have the last word.

    This will get interesting. If Myles holds out from training camp, etc he won't get paid. I wonder how long this could drag out.

  • @syd said:

    Bob i like ya but no one put a gun to your head to recklessly throw away your money

    I always looked at it as part of my entertainment budget. But this front office has taken the "entertainment" away with stupid decisions.

    I believe it has happened before and if the players got all uppity the owners could just lock them out, not many would survive, Don't forget who has all the power

    Right, the owners/management always have the last word.

    This will get interesting. If Myles holds out from training camp, etc he won't get paid. I wonder how long this could drag out.

    @bob806 said:

    This will get interesting. If Myles holds out from training camp, etc he won't get paid. I wonder how long this could drag out.

    I wonder if this is all wink wink nudge nudge stuff, this way the front office doesn't lose face and Myles gets what he want's and so do the Browns

  • It's sad.  The two players that put the Browns on the map in a positive way, Garrett and Chubb.....seem to be slipping away...

  • It's sad.  The two players that put the Browns on the map in a positive way, Garrett and Chubb.....seem to be slipping away...

    @orion said:

    It's sad.  The two players that put the Browns on the map in a positive way, Garrett and Chubb.....seem to be slipping away...

    we can thank that fuck fitzpatrick for Chubb

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    @bob806 said:

    This will get interesting. If Myles holds out from training camp, etc he won't get paid. I wonder how long this could drag out.

    I wonder if this is all wink wink nudge nudge stuff, this way the front office doesn't lose face and Myles gets what he want's and so do the Browns

    @syd said:

    I wonder if this is all wink wink nudge nudge stuff, this way the front office doesn't lose face and Myles gets what he want's and so do the Browns

    Myles doesn't sound like he wants a resolution with CLE. I predict ugliness & stupidity on both sides 

  • @reality said:

    Teams don't have to honor their end of contracts.....

    They actually do.

    A breach of contract leads to legal BS, no matter what side breaches it 

    @bob806 said:

    They actually do.

    A breach of contract leads to legal BS, no matter what side breaches it 

    Ummm...players get cut all the time with years left on their contract.   CLE just did it with the LS and Thornhill.  So no, teams don't honor contracts either.  Outside of Cousins (in MIN) and Watson there are no guaranteed contracts in the NFL.  It's just one sided that teams can end the contract,  not pay expected salary to player, and move on.  But a player don't like what's left (years at under value pay and no guaranteed money, as one example) its honor your contract 

  • @syd said:

    I wonder if this is all wink wink nudge nudge stuff, this way the front office doesn't lose face and Myles gets what he want's and so do the Browns

    Myles doesn't sound like he wants a resolution with CLE. I predict ugliness & stupidity on both sides 

    @bob806 said:

    Myles doesn't sound like he wants a resolution with CLE. I predict ugliness & stupidity on both sides 

    Neither did Lamar last year.....or Aiyuk...of Debo...and many others.

    He may truly want out that bad.  But just as possible this is still all about contract.  

  • I'm tired of these divas wanting out of their contracts two years early. You want a trade? Fine, IF it makes sense for the organization. That means a king's ransom in trade return for a player of Myles caliber. If the Browns don't get what they want, let Garrett pout and holdout.

    In the real world:

    "Hey boss, trade me to one of our competitors with more sales."

    Boss: "No. See you Monday bright and early."

  • I'm tired of these divas wanting out of their contracts two years early. You want a trade? Fine, IF it makes sense for the organization. That means a king's ransom in trade return for a player of Myles caliber. If the Browns don't get what they want, let Garrett pout and holdout.

    In the real world:

    "Hey boss, trade me to one of our competitors with more sales."

    Boss: "No. See you Monday bright and early."

    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    I'm tired of these divas wanting out of their contracts two years earl

    Myles is a diva ? never heard that one before. We need the frigging draft picks,Myles is not going to save this team after the #4 debacle, we need players on rookie contracts and yes it will be years untill we play at 500,unless you really think berry will hit on his draft picks ( then yes trading Myles is worth the gamble)

  • @bob806 said:

    They actually do.

    A breach of contract leads to legal BS, no matter what side breaches it 

    Ummm...players get cut all the time with years left on their contract.   CLE just did it with the LS and Thornhill.  So no, teams don't honor contracts either.  Outside of Cousins (in MIN) and Watson there are no guaranteed contracts in the NFL.  It's just one sided that teams can end the contract,  not pay expected salary to player, and move on.  But a player don't like what's left (years at under value pay and no guaranteed money, as one example) its honor your contract 

    @reality said:

    Ummm...players get cut all the time with years left on their contract.   CLE just did it with the LS and Thornhill.  So no, teams don't honor contracts either.  Outside of Cousins (in MIN) and Watson there are no guaranteed contracts in the NFL.  It's just one sided that teams can end the contract,  not pay expected salary to player, and move on.  But a player don't like what's left (years at under value pay and no guaranteed money, as one example) its honor your contract 

    Ummm...I know what you're trying to say, but the contracts are structured in a way that the player still gets paid. The signing bonus is basically protection for the player in case the team wants to move on. The team releases Thornhill, he's compensated, and the team suffers some sort of cap hit. 

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    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    I'm tired of these divas wanting out of their contracts two years earl

    Myles is a diva ? never heard that one before. We need the frigging draft picks,Myles is not going to save this team after the #4 debacle, we need players on rookie contracts and yes it will be years untill we play at 500,unless you really think berry will hit on his draft picks ( then yes trading Myles is worth the gamble)

    @syd said:

    Myles is a diva ? never heard that one before. We need the frigging draft picks,Myles is not going to save this team after the #4 debacle, we need players on rookie contracts and yes it will be years untill we play at 500,unless you really think berry will hit on his draft picks ( then yes trading Myles is worth the gamble)

    Myles isn't going out like Joe Thomas did, and I don't blame him. 

    You are right, it would be best for the Browns and for Myles to trade him. 

  • I had a dream last night that I was at the Browns game, and it was 3rd down, and Myles Garrett was breakdancing in the locker room. 

  • It's sad.  The two players that put the Browns on the map in a positive way, Garrett and Chubb.....seem to be slipping away...

    @orion said:

    It's sad.  The two players that put the Browns on the map in a positive way, Garrett and Chubb.....seem to be slipping away...

    Indeed!  Neither were drafted by Berry so what we're evolving into is NFL body by Berry.  If that deserves FO tenure - I'm in the wrong business because I'd get demoted to Broom Closet Coordinator if I performed like that... 

    I'll be back later, I gotta go order some more cleaning supplies...?

  • @orion said:

    It's sad.  The two players that put the Browns on the map in a positive way, Garrett and Chubb.....seem to be slipping away...

    Indeed!  Neither were drafted by Berry so what we're evolving into is NFL body by Berry.  If that deserves FO tenure - I'm in the wrong business because I'd get demoted to Broom Closet Coordinator if I performed like that... 

    I'll be back later, I gotta go order some more cleaning supplies...?

    @flugel said:

    Indeed!  Neither were drafted by Berry so what we're evolving into is NFL body by Berry.  If that deserves FO tenure - I'm in the wrong business because I'd get demoted to Broom Closet Coordinator if I performed like that... 

    I'll be back later, I gotta go order some more cleaning supplies...?

    Oh, but the analytics are wonderful on paper.-Havaad

  • @reality said:

    Ummm...players get cut all the time with years left on their contract.   CLE just did it with the LS and Thornhill.  So no, teams don't honor contracts either.  Outside of Cousins (in MIN) and Watson there are no guaranteed contracts in the NFL.  It's just one sided that teams can end the contract,  not pay expected salary to player, and move on.  But a player don't like what's left (years at under value pay and no guaranteed money, as one example) its honor your contract 

    Ummm...I know what you're trying to say, but the contracts are structured in a way that the player still gets paid. The signing bonus is basically protection for the player in case the team wants to move on. The team releases Thornhill, he's compensated, and the team suffers some sort of cap hit. 

    @bob806 said:

    Ummm...I know what you're trying to say, but the contracts are structured in a way that the player still gets paid. The signing bonus is basically protection for the player in case the team wants to move on. The team releases Thornhill, he's compensated, and the team suffers some sort of cap hit. 

    Thornhill ain't getting his 2025 salary which he was under contract for.  But yes, the signing bonus is the only guaranteed money in NFL contracts.  Which leads to why players with no guaranteed money on their contract (Garrett as an example) demand trades.  Their salary,  which was part of the contract they and the team signed, is not guaranteed.   The team can simply release them from their contract and owe them none of that salary remaining on that contract.   

    Put it this way, imagine if everyday employment for regular folks was such that you signed a contract for a salary each year.  You cannot look for another job while under that contract even if the market pay is now higher (including at your employer for the same job you do).  But your employer can terminate your employment at any time.  

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    @berniesuperbowl2 said:

    I'm tired of these divas wanting out of their contracts two years earl

    Myles is a diva ? never heard that one before. We need the frigging draft picks,Myles is not going to save this team after the #4 debacle, we need players on rookie contracts and yes it will be years untill we play at 500,unless you really think berry will hit on his draft picks ( then yes trading Myles is worth the gamble)

    @syd said:

    Myles is a diva ? never heard that one before. We need the frigging draft picks,Myles is not going to save this team after the #4 debacle, we need players on rookie contracts and yes it will be years untill we play at 500,unless you really think berry will hit on his draft picks ( then yes trading Myles is worth the gamble)

    Yes, he is and so is any other guy who won't honor a contract with two years left on it. I said in my post trade him if it makes sense. Don't dump him to Detroit, Philly, or the Chiefs for a 1st round #28-#32 overall pick, that's basically second round. Get a good trade haul return, or we keep him. Garrett has zero leverage here.

  • @bob806 said:

    Ummm...I know what you're trying to say, but the contracts are structured in a way that the player still gets paid. The signing bonus is basically protection for the player in case the team wants to move on. The team releases Thornhill, he's compensated, and the team suffers some sort of cap hit. 

    Thornhill ain't getting his 2025 salary which he was under contract for.  But yes, the signing bonus is the only guaranteed money in NFL contracts.  Which leads to why players with no guaranteed money on their contract (Garrett as an example) demand trades.  Their salary,  which was part of the contract they and the team signed, is not guaranteed.   The team can simply release them from their contract and owe them none of that salary remaining on that contract.   

    Put it this way, imagine if everyday employment for regular folks was such that you signed a contract for a salary each year.  You cannot look for another job while under that contract even if the market pay is now higher (including at your employer for the same job you do).  But your employer can terminate your employment at any time.  

    @reality said:

    including at your employer

    Well, your employer can make you sign an agreement that you won't ever go work for the competition.  And they can make up any ol' reason to get rid of you.  It is what it is wherever you are.

  • just saw that prescot and lamb have re worked their contracts to free up allmost 40 million

  • @orion said:

    It's sad.  The two players that put the Browns on the map in a positive way, Garrett and Chubb.....seem to be slipping away...

    Indeed!  Neither were drafted by Berry so what we're evolving into is NFL body by Berry.  If that deserves FO tenure - I'm in the wrong business because I'd get demoted to Broom Closet Coordinator if I performed like that... 

    I'll be back later, I gotta go order some more cleaning supplies...?

    @flugel said:

    Indeed!  Neither were drafted by Berry so what we're evolving into is NFL body by Berry.  If that deserves FO tenure - I'm in the wrong business because I'd get demoted to Broom Closet Coordinator if I performed like that... 

    I'll be back later, I gotta go order some more cleaning supplies...?

    Either Haslam doesn’t want to come across as firing staff too soon (see Chud) or the FO has pictures of Jimmah in a compromising position.

    If Berry and company can’t hit this draft out of the park…they need to go.