Sanders Falling, Dart Rising?
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Man, I so hear that. I really and truly hate the idea of 'We'll get our QB next year'. To me, that's like dying of a heart attack and saying you'll have the bypass operation next year. Without a QB your season dies a slow, painful death. It's a cop-out. And the last time we were in this situation Haslem chose not to cop-out and spent the big assets on Watson...to finally put the QB problem to bed. I give him credit for that. And I'm certainly no Haslem fan. ( too bad the whole thing fell flat on it's face )
Having vented all of that...I understand their dilemma. If they truly don't believe that Sanders is any better than a guy they could get at the start of round 2, then they have to ignore the most important position in the organization at pick #2 and take the BPA, OR trade out if you think that the trade value outweighs the BPA at #2. AND THEN, if you think that Sanders will be a decent QB, then with those newly acquired assets, trade into position to take him...OR...into position to take a QB ( like a Dart } who might not make it to round 2 ( if you like Dart or somebody ). But you've GOT to come away with a QB shot-in-the-dark...because the position is just that important. ANY other position, you play it by the book...but QB is off the curve important....
And for what feels like the 190th time this offseason, yes, let’s take a high pick and wish and pray that the mediocre QB prospect we’re using it on works out. I’d hate to use that #33 on another Joel Bitonio or Nick Chubb.
I’d hate to use that #33 on another Joel Bitonio or Nick Chubb.
Can they throw TD passes?
Then they're a luxury item.
Now if you can't pick the QB because he stinks, then go ahead and pick the luxury items. What else can ya do? Trade 3 first rounders for someone's QB?
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I don't do "next year" during "this year" anymore. I used to
Man, I so hear that. I really and truly hate the idea of 'We'll get our QB next year'. To me, that's like dying of a heart attack and saying you'll have the bypass operation next year. Without a QB your season dies a slow, painful death. It's a cop-out. And the last time we were in this situation Haslem chose not to cop-out and spent the big assets on Watson...to finally put the QB problem to bed. I give him credit for that. And I'm certainly no Haslem fan. ( too bad the whole thing fell flat on it's face )
Having vented all of that...I understand their dilemma. If they truly don't believe that Sanders is any better than a guy they could get at the start of round 2, then they have to ignore the most important position in the organization at pick #2 and take the BPA, OR trade out if you think that the trade value outweighs the BPA at #2. AND THEN, if you think that Sanders will be a decent QB, then with those newly acquired assets, trade into position to take him...OR...into position to take a QB ( like a Dart } who might not make it to round 2 ( if you like Dart or somebody ). But you've GOT to come away with a QB shot-in-the-dark...because the position is just that important. ANY other position, you play it by the book...but QB is off the curve important....
Man, I so hear that. I really and truly hate the idea of 'We'll get our QB next year'. To me, that's like dying of a heart attack and saying you'll have the bypass operation next year. Without a QB your season dies a slow, painful death. It's a cop-out. And the last time we were in this situation Haslem chose not to cop-out and spent the big assets on Watson...to finally put the QB problem to bed. I give him credit for that. And I'm certainly no Haslem fan. ( too bad the whole thing fell flat on it's face )
Having vented all of that...I understand their dilemma. If they truly don't believe that Sanders is any better than a guy they could get at the start of round 2, then they have to ignore the most important position in the organization at pick #2 and take the BPA, OR trade out if you think that the trade value outweighs the BPA at #2. AND THEN, if you think that Sanders will be a decent QB, then with those newly acquired assets, trade into position to take him...OR...into position to take a QB ( like a Dart } who might not make it to round 2 ( if you like Dart or somebody ). But you've GOT to come away with a QB shot-in-the-dark...because the position is just that important. ANY other position, you play it by the book...but QB is off the curve important....
I'm holding off on giving Jimmy credit and I'll tell ya why.. Okay Baker was immature so going after a QB in the situation Watson put himself in - didn't upgrade the character of the QB at all right? It certainly didn't make the difference in leadership either. Looking at what the 2 QBs have done the last 2 seasons - he definitely didn't upgrade Baker's passing. In conclusion, we spun our wheels and gave up too many high round draft picks (that are showing up as needs today) - when in actuality we'd give anything for a QB that can throw over 40 TD passes for this team today...
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Man, I so hear that. I really and truly hate the idea of 'We'll get our QB next year'. To me, that's like dying of a heart attack and saying you'll have the bypass operation next year. Without a QB your season dies a slow, painful death. It's a cop-out. And the last time we were in this situation Haslem chose not to cop-out and spent the big assets on Watson...to finally put the QB problem to bed. I give him credit for that. And I'm certainly no Haslem fan. ( too bad the whole thing fell flat on it's face )
Having vented all of that...I understand their dilemma. If they truly don't believe that Sanders is any better than a guy they could get at the start of round 2, then they have to ignore the most important position in the organization at pick #2 and take the BPA, OR trade out if you think that the trade value outweighs the BPA at #2. AND THEN, if you think that Sanders will be a decent QB, then with those newly acquired assets, trade into position to take him...OR...into position to take a QB ( like a Dart } who might not make it to round 2 ( if you like Dart or somebody ). But you've GOT to come away with a QB shot-in-the-dark...because the position is just that important. ANY other position, you play it by the book...but QB is off the curve important....
I'm holding off on giving Jimmy credit and I'll tell ya why.. Okay Baker was immature so going after a QB in the situation Watson put himself in - didn't upgrade the character of the QB at all right? It certainly didn't make the difference in leadership either. Looking at what the 2 QBs have done the last 2 seasons - he definitely didn't upgrade Baker's passing. In conclusion, we spun our wheels and gave up too many high round draft picks (that are showing up as needs today) - when in actuality we'd give anything for a QB that can throw over 40 TD passes for this team today...
Baker was immature so going after a QB in the situation Watson put himself in - didn't upgrade the character of the QB at all right? It certainly didn't make the difference in leadership either.
Yeah, I never thought that Watson was going to be a team leader in anything except passing stats. But the success of the organization is based on Wins & Losses...not whether the woman's auxiliary likes your QB or not. The plan wasn't for Watson to fall flat on his face. And remember, two teams after us gave up on Baker in very short order. We weren't the only ones to see him as expendable.
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Baker was immature so going after a QB in the situation Watson put himself in - didn't upgrade the character of the QB at all right? It certainly didn't make the difference in leadership either.
Yeah, I never thought that Watson was going to be a team leader in anything except passing stats. But the success of the organization is based on Wins & Losses...not whether the woman's auxiliary likes your QB or not. The plan wasn't for Watson to fall flat on his face. And remember, two teams after us gave up on Baker in very short order. We weren't the only ones to see him as expendable.
Yeah, I never thought that Watson was going to be a team leader in anything except passing stats. But the success of the organization is based on Wins & Losses...not whether the woman's auxiliary likes your QB or not. The plan wasn't for Watson to fall flat on his face. And remember, two teams after us gave up on Baker in very short order. We weren't the only ones to see him as expendable.
Kind of. One of them was Carolina who gave up on Darnold too as well as benching 1st overall pick Bryce Young; so they blamed the QBs for their inability to field a good team around the QB. The Rams already invested very heavily in Matthew Stafford so they weren't going to cut him for Cheese Cakes. Both parties saw Baker in LA as an audition for after Stafford gets healthy again. Right on cue, it became the experience that interested Tampa in him. Today, he's throwing over 40 TD passes and leading the Bucs to the playoffs in 2 consecutive seasons.
Moving forward, we're under 2 weeks til the draft. What are you thinking for the 1st 2 rounds?
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Yeah, I never thought that Watson was going to be a team leader in anything except passing stats. But the success of the organization is based on Wins & Losses...not whether the woman's auxiliary likes your QB or not. The plan wasn't for Watson to fall flat on his face. And remember, two teams after us gave up on Baker in very short order. We weren't the only ones to see him as expendable.
Kind of. One of them was Carolina who gave up on Darnold too as well as benching 1st overall pick Bryce Young; so they blamed the QBs for their inability to field a good team around the QB. The Rams already invested very heavily in Matthew Stafford so they weren't going to cut him for Cheese Cakes. Both parties saw Baker in LA as an audition for after Stafford gets healthy again. Right on cue, it became the experience that interested Tampa in him. Today, he's throwing over 40 TD passes and leading the Bucs to the playoffs in 2 consecutive seasons.
Moving forward, we're under 2 weeks til the draft. What are you thinking for the 1st 2 rounds?
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I'm thinking Hunter...and then, I don't know what the heck they'll do.
Me too! And I kind of like that.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Me too! And I kind of like that.
Literally any player chosen fills a need.
Should make for an interesting Draft Weekend!
(But I just realized a week or so ago that I got tickets to see JIm Gaffigan at Playhouse Square, so I'll miss a good chunk of Day 3. Such a pity.)
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Me too! And I kind of like that.
Two sides to that: 1) the suspense, anticipation, like not knowing the prebirth gender of your grandchild.
2) worried about what jackass move they'll make because you've lost faith in their abilities as draft evaluators, that they're on thin ice regarding their jobs and like a wounded animal, might do anything from totally crazy to sane.
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Me too! And I kind of like that.
Two sides to that: 1) the suspense, anticipation, like not knowing the prebirth gender of your grandchild.
2) worried about what jackass move they'll make because you've lost faith in their abilities as draft evaluators, that they're on thin ice regarding their jobs and like a wounded animal, might do anything from totally crazy to sane.
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Two sides to that: 1) the suspense, anticipation, like not knowing the prebirth gender of your grandchild.
2) worried about what jackass move they'll make because you've lost faith in their abilities as draft evaluators, that they're on thin ice regarding their jobs and like a wounded animal, might do anything from totally crazy to sane.
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I hear ya. ? Hard to believe option 2 is a lot more promising than my 401K today.
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Two sides to that: 1) the suspense, anticipation, like not knowing the prebirth gender of your grandchild.
2) worried about what jackass move they'll make because you've lost faith in their abilities as draft evaluators, that they're on thin ice regarding their jobs and like a wounded animal, might do anything from totally crazy to sane.
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I hear ya. ? Hard to believe option 2 is a lot more promising than my 401K today.
I hear ya. ? Hard to believe option 2 is a lot more promising than my 401K today.
Good thing we have our Social Security to fall... back... oh... yeah.
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Literally any player chosen fills a need.
Should make for an interesting Draft Weekend!
(But I just realized a week or so ago that I got tickets to see JIm Gaffigan at Playhouse Square, so I'll miss a good chunk of Day 3. Such a pity.)
Yes indeed! Jim Gaffigan should be fun. Usually day 3 gets away from who is being drafted with all these side stories; and then they catch you up as quick as they can on the last 5 or 6 guys drafted. Of course, Rich Eisen has to remind us he's a huge Michigan fan quite a few times throughout the day. Then he's going to run his 40 yard dash as fast as any sloth in the world can for a good cause at least.
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I'm scheduled for band rehearsal on the Thursday night. Of course that hasn't been an issue over the last few years. ?
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
I'm scheduled for band rehearsal on the Thursday night. Of course that hasn't been an issue over the last few years. ?
I'm scheduled for band rehearsal on the Thursday night. Of course that hasn't been an issue over the last few years. ?
Strictly 80s Billy Joel.
#UpTownGirl
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Nah. Mostly classic rock. I play in two bands. Both have shows in May. (I'm not a fan of the word 'gig'...but it's the go-to term)
I don't know. It seems to me the superstars have shows. The others have gigs.
I am not putting you down. Only you know which category your band belongs.
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I don't know. It seems to me the superstars have shows. The others have gigs.
I am not putting you down. Only you know which category your band belongs.
You're right. I'd be a 'gigger' ? 50+ years ago when I played in the accordion studio's 40 pc accordion band, we played shows. Around 1969ish we toured Portugal for 18 days sight seeing and playing shows to packed halls. At one venue they had speakers outside for the people that couldn't get in. The audience dressed eloquently, every man was in a suite. We dressed in black tux's and hot pink gowns. Audiences were very quiet and respectful and applauded in appreciation after every song. But in a beautiful concert hall in Lisbon, at the end of Ave' Maria, you could hear a pin drop...and then the audience erupted in applause...and people were yelling something. Our teacher/conductor seemed surprised. Neither he nor the chaperones could interpret what they were yelling. We found out a couple of days later that the translation was similar to Bravo! - was a great fun trip, 2 islands and then Lisboa.
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I don't know. It seems to me the superstars have shows. The others have gigs.
I am not putting you down. Only you know which category your band belongs.
You're right. I'd be a 'gigger' ? 50+ years ago when I played in the accordion studio's 40 pc accordion band, we played shows. Around 1969ish we toured Portugal for 18 days sight seeing and playing shows to packed halls. At one venue they had speakers outside for the people that couldn't get in. The audience dressed eloquently, every man was in a suite. We dressed in black tux's and hot pink gowns. Audiences were very quiet and respectful and applauded in appreciation after every song. But in a beautiful concert hall in Lisbon, at the end of Ave' Maria, you could hear a pin drop...and then the audience erupted in applause...and people were yelling something. Our teacher/conductor seemed surprised. Neither he nor the chaperones could interpret what they were yelling. We found out a couple of days later that the translation was similar to Bravo! - was a great fun trip, 2 islands and then Lisboa.
You're right. I'd be a 'gigger' ? 50+ years ago when I played in the accordion studio's 40 pc accordion band, we played shows. Around 1969ish we toured Portugal for 18 days sight seeing and playing shows to packed halls. At one venue they had speakers outside for the people that couldn't get in. The audience dressed eloquently, every man was in a suite. We dressed in black tux's and hot pink gowns. Audiences were very quiet and respectful and applauded in appreciation after every song. But in a beautiful concert hall in Lisbon, at the end of Ave' Maria, you could hear a pin drop...and then the audience erupted in applause...and people were yelling something. Our teacher/conductor seemed surprised. Neither he nor the chaperones could interpret what they were yelling. We found out a couple of days later that the translation was similar to Bravo! - was a great fun trip, 2 islands and then Lisboa.
They were yelling “Freebird” in Portuguese.
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I'm scheduled for band rehearsal on the Thursday night. Of course that hasn't been an issue over the last few years. ?
I'm scheduled for band rehearsal on the Thursday night. Of course that hasn't been an issue over the last few years. ?
If I didn't think you were the smartest one in the room before reading this - that thought is now under serious cross examination...
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Daddy is clairvoyant ?
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Research shows that 85% of job interviews are about charm, chemistry, connection and perceived social ability as much as they are about actual skills.
Sanders has ability and does belong. But it speaks volumes that his tape his better than Darts yet still dropped far below him. Attitude is everything.
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