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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    You've got issues 

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      @jax said:

      I consider that a negative.

      In what way? I enjoyed subjects like Western Civilization history and earth science. 

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      @fy56 said:

      In what way? I enjoyed subjects like Western Civilization history and earth science. 

      I agree with that, I just think colleges make you pay for more than you need if you're only after a certain degree.

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        @fy56 said:

        In what way? I enjoyed subjects like Western Civilization history and earth science. 

        I agree with that, I just think colleges make you pay for more than you need if you're only after a certain degree.

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        @jax said:

        I agree with that, I just think colleges make you pay for more than you need if you're only after a certain degree.

        Well part of the pitch is to become well rounded. Or at least more well rounded. I think I needed 26 credits of humanities and social sciences to get my engineering degree 

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          @jax said:

          I agree with that, I just think colleges make you pay for more than you need if you're only after a certain degree.

          Well part of the pitch is to become well rounded. Or at least more well rounded. I think I needed 26 credits of humanities and social sciences to get my engineering degree 

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          @mld-woody said:

          Well part of the pitch is to become well rounded. Or at least more well rounded. I think I needed 26 credits of humanities and social sciences to get my engineering degree 

          I thought you majored in Counter Intelligence.

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            @fy56 said:

            Your reaching for shit and false equivalencies knows no bounds.

            “Viewpoint diversity” has no correlation to DEI. It simply mandates fairness in viewpoints, not hiring, but unfortunately the paradox is that the only way to accomplish that is by hiring.

            One positive aspect of college is that you are required to take courses outside your major, making you a “well rounded” individual once you graduate.

            How is the idea of a well rounded individual accomplished when 95 +% of faculty and administrators are flaming liberals who are indoctrinating our young into America hating democrat voting lefties?

            I believe it was prior to 1960 when colleges employed an even 50-50 left/right faculty.

            I give Trump a lot of credit for trying to restore fairness in exposing our young to all viewpoints and eradicating brainwashing.

             
             

            Ignoring the fact that most of you MAGA morons have no idea how modern college works outside of the scare tactics you hear on Fox ...

            - Does this mandate hiring and enrollment? - Yes

            - Is the viewpoint diversity mentioned conservatism? - Yes

            - So is it providing an avenue for conservatives to be hired or admitted not based on a meritocracy but based on their political views? - Yes

            That sounds like everything you think DEI is...

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            @mld-woody said:

            Ignoring the fact that most of you MAGA morons have no idea how modern college works outside of the scare tactics you hear on Fox ...

            - Does this mandate hiring and enrollment? - Yes

            - Is the viewpoint diversity mentioned conservatism? - Yes

            - So is it providing an avenue for conservatives to be hired or admitted not based on a meritocracy but based on their political views? - Yes

            That sounds like everything you think DEI is...

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            We know how college works.

            Look what happened to you.

            Conservatives wouldn't qualify as being part of these so called disenfranchised or disadvantaged groups.

            Black and Latino Americans

            Indigenous Americans

            LBGTXYZ+

            Those with disabilities

            Women in male dominated fields

            Veterans

            These mandates are aimed at benefiting the student, not the purveyors of opposing viewpoints.

            Not even in your article does it even imply that it's similar to a DEI mandate. Just something you thought of to be cute.

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              @mld-woody said:

              Ignoring the fact that most of you MAGA morons have no idea how modern college works outside of the scare tactics you hear on Fox ...

              - Does this mandate hiring and enrollment? - Yes

              - Is the viewpoint diversity mentioned conservatism? - Yes

              - So is it providing an avenue for conservatives to be hired or admitted not based on a meritocracy but based on their political views? - Yes

              That sounds like everything you think DEI is...

              Shaking_head.gif.63751943cce0d120dc221132d6554903.gif

              We know how college works.

              Look what happened to you.

              Conservatives wouldn't qualify as being part of these so called disenfranchised or disadvantaged groups.

              Black and Latino Americans

              Indigenous Americans

              LBGTXYZ+

              Those with disabilities

              Women in male dominated fields

              Veterans

              These mandates are aimed at benefiting the student, not the purveyors of opposing viewpoints.

              Not even in your article does it even imply that it's similar to a DEI mandate. Just something you thought of to be cute.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @fy56 said:

              Shaking_head.gif.63751943cce0d120dc221132d6554903.gif

              We know how college works.

              Look what happened to you.

              Conservatives wouldn't qualify as being part of these so called disenfranchised or disadvantaged groups.

              Black and Latino Americans

              Indigenous Americans

              LBGTXYZ+

              Those with disabilities

              Women in male dominated fields

              Veterans

              These mandates are aimed at benefiting the student, not the purveyors of opposing viewpoints.

              Not even in your article does it even imply that it's similar to a DEI mandate. Just something you thought of to be cute.

              Are you just not able to comprehend the connection or are you looking for the wording to literally be "this is DEI for conservatives" in the order? 

              What does the Trump admin mean by viewpoint diversity? Can we agree they mean conservatives?

              Or are we doing the thing again where you redefine words and reject the basics building blocks of reality?

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                @fy56 said:

                Shaking_head.gif.63751943cce0d120dc221132d6554903.gif

                We know how college works.

                Look what happened to you.

                Conservatives wouldn't qualify as being part of these so called disenfranchised or disadvantaged groups.

                Black and Latino Americans

                Indigenous Americans

                LBGTXYZ+

                Those with disabilities

                Women in male dominated fields

                Veterans

                These mandates are aimed at benefiting the student, not the purveyors of opposing viewpoints.

                Not even in your article does it even imply that it's similar to a DEI mandate. Just something you thought of to be cute.

                Are you just not able to comprehend the connection or are you looking for the wording to literally be "this is DEI for conservatives" in the order? 

                What does the Trump admin mean by viewpoint diversity? Can we agree they mean conservatives?

                Or are we doing the thing again where you redefine words and reject the basics building blocks of reality?

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                @mld-woody said:

                Are you just not able to comprehend the connection or are you looking for the wording to literally be "this is DEI for conservatives" in the order? 

                What does the Trump admin mean by viewpoint diversity? Can we agree they mean conservatives?

                Or are we doing the thing again where you redefine words and reject the basics building blocks of reality?

                lol

                A liberal finger wagging about redefining words.

                Staffing is ultimately based on needs of the students. If you want to liken mandating a school to provide staffing that ensures a student becomes well rounded rather than indoctrinated in order to receive funding as “conservative dei” knock yourself out, cuz that’s actually a good thing.

                 What you are unwittingly doing by calling it “dei for Conservatives” is giving DEI the bad name it deserves. 

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                  @mld-woody said:

                  Are you just not able to comprehend the connection or are you looking for the wording to literally be "this is DEI for conservatives" in the order? 

                  What does the Trump admin mean by viewpoint diversity? Can we agree they mean conservatives?

                  Or are we doing the thing again where you redefine words and reject the basics building blocks of reality?

                  lol

                  A liberal finger wagging about redefining words.

                  Staffing is ultimately based on needs of the students. If you want to liken mandating a school to provide staffing that ensures a student becomes well rounded rather than indoctrinated in order to receive funding as “conservative dei” knock yourself out, cuz that’s actually a good thing.

                   What you are unwittingly doing by calling it “dei for Conservatives” is giving DEI the bad name it deserves. 

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @fy56 said:

                  lol

                  A liberal finger wagging about redefining words.

                  Staffing is ultimately based on needs of the students. If you want to liken mandating a school to provide staffing that ensures a student becomes well rounded rather than indoctrinated in order to receive funding as “conservative dei” knock yourself out, cuz that’s actually a good thing.

                   What you are unwittingly doing by calling it “dei for Conservatives” is giving DEI the bad name it deserves. 

                  I don't care whether you think it is good or not (which, fyi, you calling it good gives DEI a good name, at least how you all interpret it... I'm very aware of the point I'm making). 

                  It's mandating the hiring of conservatives and the admittance of conservative students. Do you disagree with that? 

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                    I heard about this on the radio and just read the article in the OP from Harvard’s paper. This is a weird fight for Trump to pick. 

                    Ever since l’ve been alive universities tend to skew liberal, and there’s something to be said about picking your battles and maybe this isn’t the best battle to pick? The article makes it sound like squashing pro-Palestinian stuff is a big motivator for Trump, so l’m guessing some really powerful Jews have been in touch with him. 

                    It seems evident to me that Trump is focusing on Harvard because things he didn’t like happened there and it’s Harvard, which is arguably the top of the American University food chain, so if he can get them to budge it may cause a ripple effect. 

                    I get the approach but l’m not seeing the benefit. At the end of the day we need opposing view points. It’s actually healthy to hear and understand them.

                    And Harvard already has conservatives. They have a young republicans club (they approve Trump’s actions) and other conservative influences, but it’s safe to say they’re in the minority. 

                    Harvard became Harvard for a reason by doing whatever it is for however long. You can’t even say the word “Hahhrvard” without holding your pinkie in the air like a douchebag.

                    If Trump is looking to grow the conservative base, focus on the campaign promises that benefit regular folks. What’s happening with the “no tax on tips” reform? THAT’s the kinda thing that will grow the conservative base. 

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                      I heard about this on the radio and just read the article in the OP from Harvard’s paper. This is a weird fight for Trump to pick. 

                      Ever since l’ve been alive universities tend to skew liberal, and there’s something to be said about picking your battles and maybe this isn’t the best battle to pick? The article makes it sound like squashing pro-Palestinian stuff is a big motivator for Trump, so l’m guessing some really powerful Jews have been in touch with him. 

                      It seems evident to me that Trump is focusing on Harvard because things he didn’t like happened there and it’s Harvard, which is arguably the top of the American University food chain, so if he can get them to budge it may cause a ripple effect. 

                      I get the approach but l’m not seeing the benefit. At the end of the day we need opposing view points. It’s actually healthy to hear and understand them.

                      And Harvard already has conservatives. They have a young republicans club (they approve Trump’s actions) and other conservative influences, but it’s safe to say they’re in the minority. 

                      Harvard became Harvard for a reason by doing whatever it is for however long. You can’t even say the word “Hahhrvard” without holding your pinkie in the air like a douchebag.

                      If Trump is looking to grow the conservative base, focus on the campaign promises that benefit regular folks. What’s happening with the “no tax on tips” reform? THAT’s the kinda thing that will grow the conservative base. 

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                      @ibleedbrown said:

                      If Trump is looking to grow the conservative base, focus on the campaign promises that benefit regular folks. What’s happening with the “no tax on tips” reform? THAT’s the kinda thing that will grow the conservative base. 

                      Harvard has a $53B+ endowment.. Why are they receiving federal tax dollars? THAT resonates with Trump's base. It should resonate with every American tax payer. A large percentage of that huge endowment comes from offshore money.. A significant percentage of Harvard's student populace is, take a guess..

                      When one talks about the American educational system being more of a far left indoctrination system, Harvard would be 1A on that list..

                      Revoke their tax exempt status

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                        - most of Trump's base also doesn't understand why research exists or better their lives

                        - most of Trump's base doesn't understand that taxes fund public services they use

                        - does higher education indoctrinate folks to liberalism or are more educated people with more exposure to diversity more likely to hold liberal ideals?

                        - if universities are losing tax exempt status then I image churches and other religious institutions are next, right?

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                          @ibleedbrown said:

                          If Trump is looking to grow the conservative base, focus on the campaign promises that benefit regular folks. What’s happening with the “no tax on tips” reform? THAT’s the kinda thing that will grow the conservative base. 

                          Harvard has a $53B+ endowment.. Why are they receiving federal tax dollars? THAT resonates with Trump's base. It should resonate with every American tax payer. A large percentage of that huge endowment comes from offshore money.. A significant percentage of Harvard's student populace is, take a guess..

                          When one talks about the American educational system being more of a far left indoctrination system, Harvard would be 1A on that list..

                          Revoke their tax exempt status

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                          IbleedbrownI Ibleedbrown wrote on last edited by
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                          @axe said:

                          Harvard has a $53B+ endowment.. Why are they receiving federal tax dollars? THAT resonates with Trump's base. It should resonate with every American tax payer. A large percentage of that huge endowment comes from offshore money.. A significant percentage of Harvard's student populace is, take a guess..

                          When one talks about the American educational system being more of a far left indoctrination system, Harvard would be 1A on that list..

                          Revoke their tax exempt status

                          I imagine Harvard gets federal tax dollars because that’s a thing we invest in here in America, we want the best and brightest. 

                          I’m not aware of Harvard’s student populace, but if you are telling me that a significant portion of them are foreign born, then that’s great. We want the best and brightest from other nations too. 

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                            @fy56 said:

                            lol

                            A liberal finger wagging about redefining words.

                            Staffing is ultimately based on needs of the students. If you want to liken mandating a school to provide staffing that ensures a student becomes well rounded rather than indoctrinated in order to receive funding as “conservative dei” knock yourself out, cuz that’s actually a good thing.

                             What you are unwittingly doing by calling it “dei for Conservatives” is giving DEI the bad name it deserves. 

                            I don't care whether you think it is good or not (which, fyi, you calling it good gives DEI a good name, at least how you all interpret it... I'm very aware of the point I'm making). 

                            It's mandating the hiring of conservatives and the admittance of conservative students. Do you disagree with that? 

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            I don't care whether you think it is good or not (which, fyi, you calling it good gives DEI a good name, at least how you all interpret it... I'm very aware of the point I'm making). 

                            It's mandating the hiring of conservatives and the admittance of conservative students. Do you disagree with that? 

                            yes, I disagree - it's mandating FAIRNESS and TALENT/ACHIEVEMENT is what needs to be the hiring standard. Harvard has VIOLATED THAT. Did you go to school in backwards land?

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                              @mld-woody said:

                              I don't care whether you think it is good or not (which, fyi, you calling it good gives DEI a good name, at least how you all interpret it... I'm very aware of the point I'm making). 

                              It's mandating the hiring of conservatives and the admittance of conservative students. Do you disagree with that? 

                              yes, I disagree - it's mandating FAIRNESS and TALENT/ACHIEVEMENT is what needs to be the hiring standard. Harvard has VIOLATED THAT. Did you go to school in backwards land?

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                              @calfoxwc said:

                              yes, I disagree - it's mandating FAIRNESS and TALENT/ACHIEVEMENT is what needs to be the hiring standard. Harvard has VIOLATED THAT. Did you go to school in backwards land?

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                                - most of Trump's base also doesn't understand why research exists or better their lives

                                - most of Trump's base doesn't understand that taxes fund public services they use

                                - does higher education indoctrinate folks to liberalism or are more educated people with more exposure to diversity more likely to hold liberal ideals?

                                - if universities are losing tax exempt status then I image churches and other religious institutions are next, right?

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                if universities are losing tax exempt status then I image churches and other religious institutions are next, right?

                                Only the churches that receive a $53 billion dollar endowment.

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  I don't care whether you think it is good or not (which, fyi, you calling it good gives DEI a good name, at least how you all interpret it... I'm very aware of the point I'm making). 

                                  It's mandating the hiring of conservatives and the admittance of conservative students. Do you disagree with that? 

                                  yes, I disagree - it's mandating FAIRNESS and TALENT/ACHIEVEMENT is what needs to be the hiring standard. Harvard has VIOLATED THAT. Did you go to school in backwards land?

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                                  @calfoxwc said:

                                  yes, I disagree - it's mandating FAIRNESS and TALENT/ACHIEVEMENT is what needs to be the hiring standard. Harvard has VIOLATED THAT. Did you go to school in backwards land?

                                  Hahahaha

                                  Ok so Cal is pro DEI. Good to know 

                                  Mandating hiring of "diverse viewpoints"

                                  Obviously you morons are never going to understand the blatant hypocrisy here, or at the very least you'll never admit it, but it's always fun watching you squirm 

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                                    you lefties, woodpecker, LOVE reverse discrimination. THAT is what the Pres Trump admin is talking about. Reverse discrimination is WRONG. but it buys votes for the democommie party, so, you go with it.

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                                    Supreme Court rules against Harvard's use of race in admissions: Here's ...

                                    Jun 29, 2023That ruling also upheld Harvard's admission process as the gold standard that became a model for hundreds of highly selective schools across the country. But since then, nine states have also banned race-conscious admissions: Arizona, California, Florida, Idaho, Michigan, Nebraska, New Hampshire,
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                                      so, birdbrain, we refuse to fund this garbage with our tax money:

                                      Pay for it out of your own perverted pocket.

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                                        The fact you're even using the term "reverse discrimination" is hilarious. It lets anyone know where you're at. 

                                        And based on your other links, you're still not following along here. I can't make it any clearer. Oh well

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                                          @calfoxwc said:

                                          yes, I disagree - it's mandating FAIRNESS and TALENT/ACHIEVEMENT is what needs to be the hiring standard. Harvard has VIOLATED THAT. Did you go to school in backwards land?

                                          Hahahaha

                                          Ok so Cal is pro DEI. Good to know 

                                          Mandating hiring of "diverse viewpoints"

                                          Obviously you morons are never going to understand the blatant hypocrisy here, or at the very least you'll never admit it, but it's always fun watching you squirm 

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Hahahaha

                                          Ok so Cal is pro DEI. Good to know 

                                          Mandating hiring of "diverse viewpoints"

                                          Obviously you morons are never going to understand the blatant hypocrisy here, or at the very least you'll never admit it, but it's always fun watching you squirm 

                                          Now that was funny… you think you make people squirm.

                                          How can you say you’re having fun when you’re this angry?

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