American views on Israel
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Your immediate response was to poke at the legitimacy of polls. And, historically, the right wingers on this board have attacked the credibility of any poll they don't like since 2016.
If you aren't attacking the accuracy of the poll, and you recognize the legitimacy of the results, then my mistake. But your first post was not giving that indication
How did the polls have the 2024 presidential race?
How did the polls have the 2024 presidential race?
I have no idea. But again, the right wingers feel they can discredit any poll they don't like because they were wrong once (with that level on inaccuracy being amplified each year out low some kind of fish story).
Polls, from legitimate pollsters, are legitimate. I can't help those that choose to shove their heads in the sand
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Another example of cal posting a link and not reading it. Or maybe you did and you just can't follow along. Maybe you need some right wing blogger on red state feeding you propaganda every other sentence. Either way, this doesn't support you near as much as you think, as it shows building views critical of Trump and Israel, and references polls two months older than what I posted above.
Arguing with you about math and Israel is a bad combination, too of your weaknesses, so this obviously isn't going anywhere.
A growing share of Americans are souring on Israel and their continued genocide of Palestinians. You can want that not to be true, but the polls and data are clear.
Haha..math and Israel
October 6 +decades of bombings +videotaped decapitations + kidnappings + every other form of terrorism imaginable= Israel is the bad guy?
It just doesn’t add up, now does it Woody?
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Haha..math and Israel
October 6 +decades of bombings +videotaped decapitations + kidnappings + every other form of terrorism imaginable= Israel is the bad guy?
It just doesn’t add up, now does it Woody?
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Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight
Regardless, this thread is on the public opinion of Israel souring. Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen.
Woody is quiet today.
Must be in church celebrating the resurrection of Jesus.
Weird my response is the highlight of your day. Enjoy the holiday. Don't wait for my response on an Internet forum.
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I’ll admit l see the middle east as a rough and tumble place and l get the impression that to survive there you sometimes have to be the bigger asshole. I would wager Israel has been the bigger asshole at times.
I’m sure more invested parties are keeping score. Everyone else does their best to log who killed innocent kids any given day. It’s all super ugly.
I could see how American views on Israel could take a downturn. In an ugly situation people tend to side with whoever they like best, and historically that would be the Israelis. But as America keeps evolving with more and more non-Bible based religion people filling our ranks, sympathies may start to slide the other way.
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I swear you're 12.
What he is
is a coward.
He knows it.
He’ll die a coward without faith. You can always choose to believe .
do it!
What he is
is a coward.
He knows it.
He’ll die a coward without faith. You can always choose to believe .
do it!
This is a little dramatic hammertime. It’s still just a football sub forum here man.
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I swear you're 12.
What he is
is a coward.
He knows it.
He’ll die a coward without faith. You can always choose to believe .
do it!
What he is
is a coward.
He knows it.
He’ll die a coward without faith. You can always choose to believe .
do it!
he's afraid of every issue - runs and hides behind wise cracks insults, change of subjects, and feels like he's "somebody special" when he spouts off anti-common sense narratives about everything.
He's coward, a big chicken, and lays an egg in every discussion.
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Haha..math and Israel
October 6 +decades of bombings +videotaped decapitations + kidnappings + every other form of terrorism imaginable= Israel is the bad guy?
It just doesn’t add up, now does it Woody?
.
Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight
Regardless, this thread is on the public opinion of Israel souring. Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen.
Woody is quiet today.
Must be in church celebrating the resurrection of Jesus.
Weird my response is the highlight of your day. Enjoy the holiday. Don't wait for my response on an Internet forum.
Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight
If they did, intentional or unintentional, too fucking bad. It’s a war. One that they didn’t start.
Oh but those poor goat fucking brown people. If those animals lay down their weapons there will be peace, if Israel lays down its weapons they face annihilation.
Regardless, this thread is on the public opinion of Israel souring. Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen.
Now that gem really made me LOL for real!When you get to understand that tenets of Hamas profess that there is no compromise with Israel, that Israel has no right to exist. That the only resolution is its utter destruction, you will then understand that there is no point in enlightening us with your brand of knowledge pertaining to Middle East history.
Weird my response is the highlight of your day. Enjoy the holiday. Don't wait for my response on an Internet forum.
Ungrateful little prick. This board is the only attention you ever get.
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Must have stifled Woody. No reaction.
And from where is the anti Israeli propaganda obtained?Much of it from social media would be my guess, but according to Woody the only time you can have confidence in social media information is when it’s spewing anti Israeli stuff.
Hahaha, yeah I'm not trying to engage to AI account. I'll leave that to you geniuses.
And you're never going to recognize the IDF propaganda you consume. Not convincing you otherwise
Hahaha, yeah I'm not trying to engage to AI account. I'll leave that to you geniuses.
And you're never going to recognize the IDF propaganda you consume. Not convincing you otherwise
Well that’s not a legitimate question because I didn’t know what IDF was until I looked it up.
Interesting site. So you think it’s all propaganda?Why do I even ask. Lol
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Hahaha, yeah I'm not trying to engage to AI account. I'll leave that to you geniuses.
And you're never going to recognize the IDF propaganda you consume. Not convincing you otherwise
Well that’s not a legitimate question because I didn’t know what IDF was until I looked it up.
Interesting site. So you think it’s all propaganda?Why do I even ask. Lol
Well that’s not a legitimate question because I didn’t know what IDF was until I looked it up.
Interesting site. So you think it’s all propaganda?Why do I even ask. Lol
The site? What the hell are you talking about?
IDF is the "Israeli Defense Force". It's their military. The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it out of the region and into the Western world
We've seen posters on here frothing at the mouth to attack Palestine and repeat the lies they were fed. It clearly works, whether you believe it or not.
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What he is
is a coward.
He knows it.
He’ll die a coward without faith. You can always choose to believe .
do it!
he's afraid of every issue - runs and hides behind wise cracks insults, change of subjects, and feels like he's "somebody special" when he spouts off anti-common sense narratives about everything.
He's coward, a big chicken, and lays an egg in every discussion.
he's afraid of every issue - runs and hides behind wise cracks insults, change of subjects, and feels like he's "somebody special" when he spouts off anti-common sense narratives about everything.
He's coward, a big chicken, and lays an egg in every discussion.
You have a strange obsession with me. Seek help.
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Well that’s not a legitimate question because I didn’t know what IDF was until I looked it up.
Interesting site. So you think it’s all propaganda?Why do I even ask. Lol
The site? What the hell are you talking about?
IDF is the "Israeli Defense Force". It's their military. The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it out of the region and into the Western world
We've seen posters on here frothing at the mouth to attack Palestine and repeat the lies they were fed. It clearly works, whether you believe it or not.
The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it out of the region and into the Western world
Like our lefty based media here in the states?
We've seen posters on here frothing at the mouth to attack Palestine and repeat the lies they were fed. It clearly works, whether you believe it or not.
No one is attacking Palestine but Hamas and it's supporters. We simply show support for Israel to defend itself and unlike you, condemn the actions taken by Hamas and regular civilians during that atrocity.
IDF is the "Israeli Defense Force". It's their military. The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it
Remember this gem??
The Gaza Health Ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its count, but it has said that more than half of the fatalities are women and children.
Then the truth came out along with the fact the numbers were by the Gaza Health Ministry. You dumbasses ate this shit up though and are still digesting it.
Hamas has revised its casualty figures from the Gaza war, removing hundreds of names from its official list of war fatalities, and revealing that 72% of those killed between ages 13 and 55 were males – a demographic largely composed of combatants. The updated figures contradict Hamas' earlier claims that most casualties were women and children.
Who falls for propaganda? Remind me again, lol. ?
Russia Russia Russia. There's no Hunter laptop. ?
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The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it out of the region and into the Western world
Like our lefty based media here in the states?
We've seen posters on here frothing at the mouth to attack Palestine and repeat the lies they were fed. It clearly works, whether you believe it or not.
No one is attacking Palestine but Hamas and it's supporters. We simply show support for Israel to defend itself and unlike you, condemn the actions taken by Hamas and regular civilians during that atrocity.
IDF is the "Israeli Defense Force". It's their military. The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it
Remember this gem??
The Gaza Health Ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its count, but it has said that more than half of the fatalities are women and children.
Then the truth came out along with the fact the numbers were by the Gaza Health Ministry. You dumbasses ate this shit up though and are still digesting it.
Hamas has revised its casualty figures from the Gaza war, removing hundreds of names from its official list of war fatalities, and revealing that 72% of those killed between ages 13 and 55 were males – a demographic largely composed of combatants. The updated figures contradict Hamas' earlier claims that most casualties were women and children.
Who falls for propaganda? Remind me again, lol. ?
Russia Russia Russia. There's no Hunter laptop. ?
Like our lefty based media here in the states?
No one is attacking Palestine but Hamas and it's supporters. We simply show support for Israel to defend itself and unlike you, condemn the actions taken by Hamas and regular civilians during that atrocity.
Remember this gem??
The Gaza Health Ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its count, but it has said that more than half of the fatalities are women and children.
Then the truth came out along with the fact the numbers were by the Gaza Health Ministry. You dumbasses ate this shit up though and are still digesting it.
Hamas has revised its casualty figures from the Gaza war, removing hundreds of names from its official list of war fatalities, and revealing that 72% of those killed between ages 13 and 55 were males – a demographic largely composed of combatants. The updated figures contradict Hamas' earlier claims that most casualties were women and children.
Who falls for propaganda? Remind me again, lol. ?
Russia Russia Russia. There's no Hunter laptop. ?
Posters are on here attacking Palestine daily. Some real awful shit said on here. Shit said in this thread. You can't recognize reality in the world and you can't recognize it on this forum apparently.
Good to know you think the number of civilian casualties in Gaza are now low enough to be justifiable.
And, as always, your recollection of what's been said on here is accurate. Or you just can't read. I'm not sure.
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Like our lefty based media here in the states?
No one is attacking Palestine but Hamas and it's supporters. We simply show support for Israel to defend itself and unlike you, condemn the actions taken by Hamas and regular civilians during that atrocity.
Remember this gem??
The Gaza Health Ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its count, but it has said that more than half of the fatalities are women and children.
Then the truth came out along with the fact the numbers were by the Gaza Health Ministry. You dumbasses ate this shit up though and are still digesting it.
Hamas has revised its casualty figures from the Gaza war, removing hundreds of names from its official list of war fatalities, and revealing that 72% of those killed between ages 13 and 55 were males – a demographic largely composed of combatants. The updated figures contradict Hamas' earlier claims that most casualties were women and children.
Who falls for propaganda? Remind me again, lol. ?
Russia Russia Russia. There's no Hunter laptop. ?
Posters are on here attacking Palestine daily. Some real awful shit said on here. Shit said in this thread. You can't recognize reality in the world and you can't recognize it on this forum apparently.
Good to know you think the number of civilian casualties in Gaza are now low enough to be justifiable.
And, as always, your recollection of what's been said on here is accurate. Or you just can't read. I'm not sure.
peck peck peck *fart* peck peck peck
liar. I don't believe anyone here has attacked "palestine".
"palestinians" have been seriously criticized, but that is earned by the hateful and violent murdering and raping sombeitches.
If I thought you were really only 12, it wouldn't be making you look like a complete birds butt.
However, you defend gang members, illegals, and you ignore raped American girls, and you ignore Oct. 7th, you don't know history. Seems that you rely on false narratives to get negative attention - for some sick reason. You leave stupid bird droppings on every discussion, woodpecker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_7_Hamas-led_attack_on_Israel
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"haha"
https://abcnews.go.com/538/americans-trumps-support-israel/story?id=118962257
' "Much of that change was driven by Democrats, 35 percent of whom sympathized with the Palestinians in the latest poll, compared to 27 percent in the late January survey. Indeed, 60 percent of Republicans in the latest survey said they sympathized more with Israelis — about the same share as in January. Sixty-seven percent of Republicans also said Trump’s support for Israel in the Israel-Hamas war has been “about right,” signalling they approve of his approach so far. In comparison, 12 percent of Democrats and 25 percent of independents said the same — with larger shares saying Trump has been “too supportive of Israel.” '
Another example of cal posting a link and not reading it. Or maybe you did and you just can't follow along. Maybe you need some right wing blogger on red state feeding you propaganda every other sentence. Either way, this doesn't support you near as much as you think, as it shows building views critical of Trump and Israel, and references polls two months older than what I posted above.
Arguing with you about math and Israel is a bad combination, too of your weaknesses, so this obviously isn't going anywhere.
A growing share of Americans are souring on Israel and their continued genocide of Palestinians. You can want that not to be true, but the polls and data are clear.
A growing share of Americans are souring on Israel and their continued genocide of Palestinians. You can want that not to be true, but the polls and data are clear.
There is no proper evidence of any "genocide" against Israel.
The definition of "genocide" to which most people refer is the "Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide", Article 2 of which requires "intent":
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/convention-prevention-and-punishment-crime-genocideIsrael's warnings to civilians to vacate the immediate combat zone are incompatible with the requirement for "intent" and therefore Israel has not, and is not, committing any "genocide".
Whenever Israel is obliged to defend itself, the "genocide" falsehood propaganda always appears, devoid of proper evidence.
As I previously mentioned, the survey linked by contributor "MLD Woody" makes it clear that views on Israel are different between Democrats and Republicans.- - - - Start of extract from the Survey: - - - -
'Democrats are much more likely to express unfavorable opinions of Israel than Republicans (69% vs. 37%). In 2022, 53% of Democrats and 27% of Republicans had negative views of Israel. [...]'
[Extract from its adjacent chart:]
'View of Israel:
Muslim:
Unfavorable 81
Favorable 19'
Extract source (the same link as posted by "MLD Woody"):
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/04/08/how-americans-view-israel-and-the-israel-hamas-war-at-the-start-of-trumps-second-term/- - - - End of extract - - - -
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peck peck peck *fart* peck peck peck
liar. I don't believe anyone here has attacked "palestine".
"palestinians" have been seriously criticized, but that is earned by the hateful and violent murdering and raping sombeitches.
If I thought you were really only 12, it wouldn't be making you look like a complete birds butt.
However, you defend gang members, illegals, and you ignore raped American girls, and you ignore Oct. 7th, you don't know history. Seems that you rely on false narratives to get negative attention - for some sick reason. You leave stupid bird droppings on every discussion, woodpecker.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_7_Hamas-led_attack_on_Israel
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Well that’s not a legitimate question because I didn’t know what IDF was until I looked it up.
Interesting site. So you think it’s all propaganda?Why do I even ask. Lol
The site? What the hell are you talking about?
IDF is the "Israeli Defense Force". It's their military. The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it out of the region and into the Western world
We've seen posters on here frothing at the mouth to attack Palestine and repeat the lies they were fed. It clearly works, whether you believe it or not.
The site? What the hell are you talking about?
IDF is the "Israeli Defense Force". It's their military. The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it out of the region and into the Western world
We've seen posters on here frothing at the mouth to attack Palestine and repeat the lies they were fed. It clearly works, whether you believe it or not.
Israel does not have the power to "[limit] what news makes it out of the region". There are about 57 Arab and Islamic nations and almost the entire E.U. is against Israel. For example, France state-owned France 24 specializes in broadcasting sob-stories on behalf of the "Palestinian" Arabs, and their news coverage is not only biased in favor of the "Palestinian" Arabs it is actually hostile to Israel.
Since no one has yet "attacked" the falsehood of "Palestine" I am happy to take up the challenge, such as it is:
Would contributor "MLD Woody" like to explain where "Palestine" is located?
The reason I invite them to explain this is because the name "Palestine" is used both by the "Palestinian" Arabs and by their primarily anti-Semitic supporters, to negate the correct name for the land in question, which is Israel. It was the Romans who first used the name "Palestine" which they obtained from the by then defunct Philistine region, a much smaller area than the rest of Israel.
There has never been an indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to any part of the land.
The name "Palestine" has been used politically twice, by the Romans, and later the name was resurrected for the Mandate awarded to Great Britain.
Rule of the land of Israel by the Roman Empire and the British Empire was rule by foreign imperial powers.Since there is no "P" in Arabic that name in Arabic is not pronounced "Palestine", it is pronounced "Philistine" (Filiistine)!
The "Palestinian" Arabs have zero connection with the ancient Philistines; they are Arabs.- - - - Start of extract: - - - -
' The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between what are now Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria [which included Roman-occupied Israel ...]
it had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain. [...]'
Extract source:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine- - - - End of extract - - - -
So far as the Gaza casualty figures are concerned, these source only from Israel's enemy Hamas.
The United Nations is politically-allied with Hamas and therefore falsely-validates the Hamas casualty figures, figures which do not differentiate between "civilians" and Hamas and Hamas-allied, combatants.
Why do I put the word 'civilians' in double-quotes? Because many of these are what I would term "part-time civilians", such as for example those who were working for UNRWA but who were found to have taken part in the October 7th, 2023 massacre of Israelis. -
Like our lefty based media here in the states?
No one is attacking Palestine but Hamas and it's supporters. We simply show support for Israel to defend itself and unlike you, condemn the actions taken by Hamas and regular civilians during that atrocity.
Remember this gem??
The Gaza Health Ministry does not distinguish between civilians and combatants in its count, but it has said that more than half of the fatalities are women and children.
Then the truth came out along with the fact the numbers were by the Gaza Health Ministry. You dumbasses ate this shit up though and are still digesting it.
Hamas has revised its casualty figures from the Gaza war, removing hundreds of names from its official list of war fatalities, and revealing that 72% of those killed between ages 13 and 55 were males – a demographic largely composed of combatants. The updated figures contradict Hamas' earlier claims that most casualties were women and children.
Who falls for propaganda? Remind me again, lol. ?
Russia Russia Russia. There's no Hunter laptop. ?
Posters are on here attacking Palestine daily. Some real awful shit said on here. Shit said in this thread. You can't recognize reality in the world and you can't recognize it on this forum apparently.
Good to know you think the number of civilian casualties in Gaza are now low enough to be justifiable.
And, as always, your recollection of what's been said on here is accurate. Or you just can't read. I'm not sure.
Good to know you think the number of civilian casualties in Gaza are now low enough to be justifiable.
What about the number of Americans victimized by illegals? Is any number of that justified by your failed logic?
How about the genocide going on in South Africa? Is that justified in your warped little head?
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The site? What the hell are you talking about?
IDF is the "Israeli Defense Force". It's their military. The point being it's propaganda by limiting what news makes it out of the region and into the Western world
We've seen posters on here frothing at the mouth to attack Palestine and repeat the lies they were fed. It clearly works, whether you believe it or not.
Israel does not have the power to "[limit] what news makes it out of the region". There are about 57 Arab and Islamic nations and almost the entire E.U. is against Israel. For example, France state-owned France 24 specializes in broadcasting sob-stories on behalf of the "Palestinian" Arabs, and their news coverage is not only biased in favor of the "Palestinian" Arabs it is actually hostile to Israel.
Since no one has yet "attacked" the falsehood of "Palestine" I am happy to take up the challenge, such as it is:
Would contributor "MLD Woody" like to explain where "Palestine" is located?
The reason I invite them to explain this is because the name "Palestine" is used both by the "Palestinian" Arabs and by their primarily anti-Semitic supporters, to negate the correct name for the land in question, which is Israel. It was the Romans who first used the name "Palestine" which they obtained from the by then defunct Philistine region, a much smaller area than the rest of Israel.
There has never been an indigenous “Palestine” / Arab sovereign state in the land of Israel upon which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to any part of the land.
The name "Palestine" has been used politically twice, by the Romans, and later the name was resurrected for the Mandate awarded to Great Britain.
Rule of the land of Israel by the Roman Empire and the British Empire was rule by foreign imperial powers.Since there is no "P" in Arabic that name in Arabic is not pronounced "Palestine", it is pronounced "Philistine" (Filiistine)!
The "Palestinian" Arabs have zero connection with the ancient Philistines; they are Arabs.- - - - Start of extract: - - - -
' The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between what are now Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CE in “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria [which included Roman-occupied Israel ...]
it had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain. [...]'
Extract source:
https://www.britannica.com/place/Palestine- - - - End of extract - - - -
So far as the Gaza casualty figures are concerned, these source only from Israel's enemy Hamas.
The United Nations is politically-allied with Hamas and therefore falsely-validates the Hamas casualty figures, figures which do not differentiate between "civilians" and Hamas and Hamas-allied, combatants.
Why do I put the word 'civilians' in double-quotes? Because many of these are what I would term "part-time civilians", such as for example those who were working for UNRWA but who were found to have taken part in the October 7th, 2023 massacre of Israelis.Would contributor "MLD Woody" like to explain where "Palestine" is located?
He would not, he's been over his head since the day he tried virtue signalling in a political forum.
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I'm not feeding into the "dead Internet theory" of it all. But concerning to know many of you are a deep fake away from giving up your life savings to a scam
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Haha..math and Israel
October 6 +decades of bombings +videotaped decapitations + kidnappings + every other form of terrorism imaginable= Israel is the bad guy?
It just doesn’t add up, now does it Woody?
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Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight
Regardless, this thread is on the public opinion of Israel souring. Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen.
Woody is quiet today.
Must be in church celebrating the resurrection of Jesus.
Weird my response is the highlight of your day. Enjoy the holiday. Don't wait for my response on an Internet forum.
Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight
Regardless, this thread is on the public opinion of Israel souring. Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen. .
Contributor "MLD Woody" wrote:
"Poor innocent Israel has never done anything wrong. Riiiiiight":
Israel is the same as any other country and likewise occasionally does things wrong. However, Israel punishes wrongdoing by its soldiers, whereas by comparison the "Palestinian" Arabs pay a reward-pension for the murder of Israeli Jewish civilians including children; this "pay for slay" is referred to as the "Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund". After all the "Palestinian" Arabs have the money to do this because they are bankrolled by the institutionally anti-Semitic European Union which pays huge sums in so-called "humanitarian" aid to Fatah aka "Palestinian Authority, the", who then pass a proportion on to Hamas.He also wrote:
"Getting you to understand the reality of the history in the region isn't anything I'm looking to do. It won't happen.":
In this the contributor is entirely accurate. This is because pro-"Palestinian" Arabs / "Palestinian" Arabs do not use internationally-recognized history.
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