Shedeur Sanders
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? He probably out-earned me when he was just getting an allowance from his dad and I like to think I made decent cake...
From the sounds of it, Sanders would have something along the lines of a 4 year/$4.5 mill contract?
Rumor is that Carson Beck, formerly of the U of Georgia, will now QB for the Miami Hurricanes this coming college season for a cool $4.3 mill.
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My issue with Sanders isn’t his physical attributes, it lies between his ears.
I think daddy played a big role in his mental development…or lack there of.
I believe the Browns said they wanted “an adult” in the locker room when they dumped Mayfield. ?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
My issue with Sanders isn’t his physical attributes, it lies between his ears.
I think daddy played a big role in his mental development…or lack there of.
I believe the Browns said they wanted “an adult” in the locker room when they dumped Mayfield. ?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Him becoming a 5th round pick will fix that, if it doesn't little loss in dumping a 5th round pick.
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My issue with Sanders isn’t his physical attributes, it lies between his ears.
I think daddy played a big role in his mental development…or lack there of.
I believe the Browns said they wanted “an adult” in the locker room when they dumped Mayfield. ?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I'm torn on this Sanders situation.
I've said before, he's a guy a lot of people thought was a first round talent who we got at #144. On paper, that sounds like a brilliant move.
But as a Browns fan who was exhausted dealing with the Watson nonsense after dealing with the Baker nonsense, I was looking forward to a no-nonsense QB room. Finally, right? I also have been on record for months saying that the Browns should avoid Shedeur like the plague, trade down and pick up assets for the 2026 Draft and get your franchise QB then. Use a mid-rounder this draft on a young guy who fits the system who can be your long term backup QB.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE BROWNS DID.
And then they went and brought Sanders in anyways. I get it, its a lottery ticket. If he's a problem, you cut him. But the Sanders circus is coming to town, and my absolute nightmare scenario is that he shows just enough next season to make the team think "Holy shit, I think we just hit the lottery!" and skip on getting a QB next year when the QB class is better and you are sitting on two probably top 15 first round picks. Hell, would anyone be shocked if both were top 10?
I'm torn on this Sanders situation.
I've said before, he's a guy a lot of people thought was a first round talent who we got at #144. On paper, that sounds like a brilliant move.
But as a Browns fan who was exhausted dealing with the Watson nonsense after dealing with the Baker nonsense, I was looking forward to a no-nonsense QB room. Finally, right? I also have been on record for months saying that the Browns should avoid Shedeur like the plague, trade down and pick up assets for the 2026 Draft and get your franchise QB then. Use a mid-rounder this draft on a young guy who fits the system who can be your long term backup QB.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE BROWNS DID.
And then they went and brought Sanders in anyways. I get it, its a lottery ticket. If he's a problem, you cut him. But the Sanders circus is coming to town, and my absolute nightmare scenario is that he shows just enough next season to make the team think "Holy shit, I think we just hit the lottery!" and skip on getting a QB next year when the QB class is better and you are sitting on two probably top 15 first round picks. Hell, would anyone be shocked if both were top 10?
I agree but I think it's a risk worth taking given where he was drafted.
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Just sharing an observation l heard on a sports radio program this morning. The observation was that Sanders had only been coached by his dad since he was in pop warner. I’m not sure l realized that, but it begs the question how will he respond when he has to deal with different coaches who likely have different coaching styles?
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Just sharing an observation l heard on a sports radio program this morning. The observation was that Sanders had only been coached by his dad since he was in pop warner. I’m not sure l realized that, but it begs the question how will he respond when he has to deal with different coaches who likely have different coaching styles?
Just sharing an observation l heard on a sports radio program this morning. The observation was that Sanders had only been coached by his dad since he was in pop warner. I’m not sure l realized that, but it begs the question how will he respond when he has to deal with different coaches who likely have different coaching styles?
At some point... Daddy has to "let go"
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Seems odd to take 2 QBs and if we're all in Sanders corner now, why did we chance him dropping if we liked him so much?
Meanwhile we're still hoping for a qb from next years class.
I liked this draft all except for the double qb picks.
Seems odd to take 2 QBs and if we're all in Sanders corner now, why did we chance him dropping if we liked him so much?
Meanwhile we're still hoping for a qb from next years class.
I liked this draft all except for the double qb picks.
I would rather have too many competent QBs over none. If we have a clear cut franchise QB, just trade away the other one to a QB needy team.
Drafting just 1 QB in a draft, or spending a high pick on one has not worked.
Letting him slide to the 5th mitigates the risk.. -
My issue with Sanders isn’t his physical attributes, it lies between his ears.
I think daddy played a big role in his mental development…or lack there of.
I believe the Browns said they wanted “an adult” in the locker room when they dumped Mayfield. ?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
My issue with Sanders isn’t his physical attributes, it lies between his ears.
I think daddy played a big role in his mental development…or lack there of.
I believe the Browns said they wanted “an adult” in the locker room when they dumped Mayfield. ?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I saw an interview where he said close to "We don't care who hates us. You know who my dad is? We just don't care, man"
I think growing up a LOT will be great for him, but I think the damage to his personality may never be overcome.
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My issue with Sanders isn’t his physical attributes, it lies between his ears.
I think daddy played a big role in his mental development…or lack there of.
I believe the Browns said they wanted “an adult” in the locker room when they dumped Mayfield. ?
The more things change, the more they stay the same.
I saw an interview where he said close to "We don't care who hates us. You know who my dad is? We just don't care, man"
I think growing up a LOT will be great for him, but I think the damage to his personality may never be overcome.
I saw an interview where he said close to "We don't care who hates us. You know who my dad is? We just don't care, man"
I think growing up a LOT will be great for him, but I think the damage to his personality may never be overcome.
As I said... At some point.. He has to become his own man
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So much for no drama and no distractions.
Do you think this slide will refocus him? I mean if not, what was the point?
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? He probably out-earned me when he was just getting an allowance from his dad and I like to think I made decent cake...
From the sounds of it, Sanders would have something along the lines of a 4 year/$4.5 mill contract?
Rumor is that Carson Beck, formerly of the U of Georgia, will now QB for the Miami Hurricanes this coming college season for a cool $4.3 mill.
From the sounds of it, Sanders would have something along the lines of a 4 year/$4.5 mill contract?
Rumor is that Carson Beck, formerly of the U of Georgia, will now QB for the Miami Hurricanes this coming college season for a cool $4.3 mill.
Wow! It'll be interesting to see what Dillon Gabriel gets considering he was a 3rd round pick...
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Just sharing an observation l heard on a sports radio program this morning. The observation was that Sanders had only been coached by his dad since he was in pop warner. I’m not sure l realized that, but it begs the question how will he respond when he has to deal with different coaches who likely have different coaching styles?
At some point... Daddy has to "let go"
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Just sharing an observation l heard on a sports radio program this morning. The observation was that Sanders had only been coached by his dad since he was in pop warner. I’m not sure l realized that, but it begs the question how will he respond when he has to deal with different coaches who likely have different coaching styles?
Just sharing an observation l heard on a sports radio program this morning. The observation was that Sanders had only been coached by his dad since he was in pop warner. I’m not sure l realized that, but it begs the question how will he respond when he has to deal with different coaches who likely have different coaching styles?
This is a great point and I think can be handled by someone with emotional maturity. Can Shedur do that? Big question mark.
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If you'd told me on Tuesday that the Browns would get all of Mason Graham, Shedeur, Carson Schwesinger, Q, and Dylan Sampson during this draft, I'd not only give that haul an A+ I'd say your optimism is a bit uncomfortable to be around. And at the end of it we also walked away with the TE and an extra first next year.
And the way I look at the extra QB instead of a better 3rd rounder and loss of other late rounders is this.
1. We would not have a quality DT Like MG
2. We would not have two 1st rounders next year
3. We would not have had 2 high 2nd rounders this year
So to me it was well worth not taking Sanders #2 overall and it was worth the chump change to move up in the 5th to get what should have been a 1st round QB. My only regret in this draft is not addressing OLs better.
And the way I look at the extra QB instead of a better 3rd rounder and loss of other late rounders is this.
1. We would not have a quality DT Like MG
2. We would not have two 1st rounders next year
3. We would not have had 2 high 2nd rounders this year
So to me it was well worth not taking Sanders #2 overall and it was worth the chump change to move up in the 5th to get what should have been a 1st round QB. My only regret in this draft is not addressing OLs better.
The more I look at this draft - I'm not nearly as upset as I was yesterday about the Offensive Tackle boycott. @dutch-ovenlet me know the Browns were trying to trade up back into the 1st round to get LT Josh Simmons. I'm good with that - because the Browns drafted a lot of guys I really liked.
That - or your buddy Flugel forgot to take his Prevagen...
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And the way I look at the extra QB instead of a better 3rd rounder and loss of other late rounders is this.
1. We would not have a quality DT Like MG
2. We would not have two 1st rounders next year
3. We would not have had 2 high 2nd rounders this year
So to me it was well worth not taking Sanders #2 overall and it was worth the chump change to move up in the 5th to get what should have been a 1st round QB. My only regret in this draft is not addressing OLs better.
The more I look at this draft - I'm not nearly as upset as I was yesterday about the Offensive Tackle boycott. @dutch-ovenlet me know the Browns were trying to trade up back into the 1st round to get LT Josh Simmons. I'm good with that - because the Browns drafted a lot of guys I really liked.
That - or your buddy Flugel forgot to take his Prevagen...
The more I look at this draft - I'm not nearly as upset as I was yesterday about the Offensive Tackle boycott. @dutch-ovenlet me know the Browns were trying to trade up back into the 1st round to get LT Josh Simmons. I'm good with that - because the Browns drafted a lot of guys I really liked.
That - or your buddy Flugel forgot to take his Prevagen...
The post draft info coming out paints a picture that the Browns FO had a plan, and it accounted for contingencies and l think they did a good job executing it.
Cam Ward was plan A if he fell to #2. If he went #1, they had the trade with Jacksonville already lined up.
They wanted to move up to get Simmons, but when that fell through they grabbed their MLB of the future.
I suspect they didn’t anticipate Sanders’ free-fall, but who did? I doubt he was a part of their contingencies but when they saw him drop to the 5th round they went for it.
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I noticed pretty low intensity after most of the picks. This was a no brainer in round 5
So, I went back and rewatched what I could find of the Browns War Room after the picks. After the first pick they smile for the camera. After the 2nd pick they're laughing at what is going on on the iphone (perhaps the drafted player's celebration)...but pretty much after that they were all quite subdued celebrations...as if a little something since the cameras are there recording.
So, I agree, the war room reaction should not indicate it was a Haslem pick. I think that it just came down to the point where, hey, Shedeur is available here in the 5th round. He and his entourage have been beaten into a humbled status. Is it worth our 5th & 6th round picks to throw him at our biggest need in the organization? And the collective answer came back as yes.
Drafts can take on a life of their own. They can start twisting and turning...and before ya know it, what went around comes back around in a little different light.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
From the sounds of it, Sanders would have something along the lines of a 4 year/$4.5 mill contract?
Rumor is that Carson Beck, formerly of the U of Georgia, will now QB for the Miami Hurricanes this coming college season for a cool $4.3 mill.
Wow! It'll be interesting to see what Dillon Gabriel gets considering he was a 3rd round pick...
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Just sharing an observation l heard on a sports radio program this morning. The observation was that Sanders had only been coached by his dad since he was in pop warner. I’m not sure l realized that, but it begs the question how will he respond when he has to deal with different coaches who likely have different coaching styles?
This is a great point and I think can be handled by someone with emotional maturity. Can Shedur do that? Big question mark.
This is a great point and I think can be handled by someone with emotional maturity. Can Shedur do that? Big question mark.
Well, he has a Browns legacy to surpass for sure, Johnny (I ain't a mature man) Football.?
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I noticed pretty low intensity after most of the picks. This was a no brainer in round 5
So, I went back and rewatched what I could find of the Browns War Room after the picks. After the first pick they smile for the camera. After the 2nd pick they're laughing at what is going on on the iphone (perhaps the drafted player's celebration)...but pretty much after that they were all quite subdued celebrations...as if a little something since the cameras are there recording.
So, I agree, the war room reaction should not indicate it was a Haslem pick. I think that it just came down to the point where, hey, Shedeur is available here in the 5th round. He and his entourage have been beaten into a humbled status. Is it worth our 5th & 6th round picks to throw him at our biggest need in the organization? And the collective answer came back as yes.
Drafts can take on a life of their own. They can start twisting and turning...and before ya know it, what went around comes back around in a little different light.
So, I went back and rewatched what I could find of the Browns War Room after the picks. After the first pick they smile for the camera. After the 2nd pick they're laughing at what is going on on the iphone (perhaps the drafted player's celebration)...but pretty much after that they were all quite subdued celebrations...as if a little something since the cameras are there recording.
So, I agree, the war room reaction should not indicate it was a Haslem pick. I think that it just came down to the point where, hey, Shedeur is available here in the 5th round. He and his entourage have been beaten into a humbled status. Is it worth our 5th & 6th round picks to throw him at our biggest need in the organization? And the collective answer came back as yes.
Drafts can take on a life of their own. They can start twisting and turning...and before ya know it, what went around comes back around in a little different light.
The War Room reaction may also have been intention. They're not going to treat Sanders like any special pick. He's a day 3 selection, minimum investment.
So if he acts out of turn, doesn't appear committed or gives the coaches grief, it's nothing in terms of cost, draft capital and personnel investment to cut him immediately.
It's a great way to setup the understanding of the power dynamic. The Browns staff is saying that we run the show, you're a late draft pick and that's it.
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The reaction to the Shedur pick is completely overblown.
The FO/Coaches spent months preparing for the draft. The week leading up had to be massive amount of office time and time away from their normal life in settings outside of the football field and then three intense days smiling for cameras meeting new players. After all this I’ll cut them all some slack if they left out a fist pump
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