5 QB’s In The Room
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Between the 4 possibles, surely they can all tank this team into a high first rounder and not count on Jax to do it for them.?
I think I would place a bet on both the Browns picks being in the top 10.
I think I would place a bet on both the Browns picks being in the top 10.
Nah, the Jags will have Lawrence back. And he'll have a new WR. Plus, they added pieces to their D. I think they'll do much better this season.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
So, Arch Manning who was never able to beat out Quinn Ewers (who wasn't drafted until the 7th Round this year) is only going to have 1 year as the Starter under his - is this the guy we're tanking for? Keep in mind, Arch has a protective family that will encourage him to stay at Texas for anywhere from 7-10 million $ unless they have salary cap issues like Woody's Wolverines already have ?. They'd also want him to have more experience like Uncle Peyton had by staying in college for his 4th season at TN. If they let him go to Cleveland - he's gonna feel like that little kid on the yellow raft in the movie Jaws...
I don't see Arch entering the draft next year. The incentives to enter the NFL aren't as great as before. These top guys end up with pay cuts once they enter the NFL. Arch makes a sizeable amount of NIL money. Add in Arch comes from a family with plenty of money. Cooper Manning has a net wealth of 13 million, not to mention a couple of Uncles and Grandfather who have plenty of money.
It's not like Arch is that student with a case or two of Raman packed under his dorm bed.
I don't see Arch entering the draft next year. The incentives to enter the NFL aren't as great as before. These top guys end up with pay cuts once they enter the NFL. Arch makes a sizeable amount of NIL money. Add in Arch comes from a family with plenty of money. Cooper Manning has a net wealth of 13 million, not to mention a couple of Uncles and Grandfather who have plenty of money.
It's not like Arch is that student with a case or two of Raman packed under his dorm bed.
Well said! Me either - that's why I mentioned he has a protective family that will encourage him to stay another year at Texas for the income range of 7-10 million. Again, his Uncle Peyton (who never had to red-shirt) stayed a 4th year at UT more for the experience than than the competition to be the 1st overall draft pick. In 1997 Virginia Tech's Jim Drunkenmiller was the 1st QB taken but not until #13 overall so he would have been the 1st QB taken. The point is - length of experience as a starter in college football is extremely helpful preparation for the NFL and Peyton understood this. Bo Nix and Jayden Daniels are examples of QBs that benefitted from a wealth of starting experience and both guys started at 2 different programs within their experience. In comparison, 1st round pick Mitch Trubisky only started 1 year before he was drafted; and today he's back in Buffalo as their backup QB making a very nice living though.
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I think I would place a bet on both the Browns picks being in the top 10.
Nah, the Jags will have Lawrence back. And he'll have a new WR. Plus, they added pieces to their D. I think they'll do much better this season.
Nah, the Jags will have Lawrence back. And he'll have a new WR. Plus, they added pieces to their D. I think they'll do much better this season.
We’ll see. The Jags are the Browns of the South.
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We’ll see. The Jags are the Browns of the South.
Aww...the Jags are my 9 yr old grandson's favorite team. He was with 'the father' on draft day...so naturally he knew nothing of what went on until I saw him on the Friday...which is when we exchanged high fives and talked about the goings on.
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Browns not picking up Pickett's 5th year option for 2026.
After all he's accomplished in Cleveland?
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Nathan Zegura said Dillon Gabriel was the number two quarterback on the Browns board after Cam Ward.
He said Gabriel wins the way Kevin Stefanski wants his quarterback to win.
- Great decision maker
- Accurate from the pocket
- Can throw on the move from both directions
- Excellent pocket movementStefanski also told Zegura that, while they were watching the tape, the team kept asking, “Where does the height show up?”
The biggest knock against Gabriel is his height, which is listed at 5’11”. But his smaller stature didn’t prevent him from being the most productive quarterback in college football history.
Zegura said:
“If Dillon Gabriel is 6’3”, he probably is the number two [overall] pick in this draft.”
It’s crazy to think that four inches could be the only difference between being the number two pick in the draft and going late in the third round.
But if that’s truly the case, then the Browns got a legitimately talented quarterback at a serious value.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
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Nathan Zegura said Dillon Gabriel was the number two quarterback on the Browns board after Cam Ward.
He said Gabriel wins the way Kevin Stefanski wants his quarterback to win.
- Great decision maker
- Accurate from the pocket
- Can throw on the move from both directions
- Excellent pocket movementStefanski also told Zegura that, while they were watching the tape, the team kept asking, “Where does the height show up?”
The biggest knock against Gabriel is his height, which is listed at 5’11”. But his smaller stature didn’t prevent him from being the most productive quarterback in college football history.
Zegura said:
“If Dillon Gabriel is 6’3”, he probably is the number two [overall] pick in this draft.”
It’s crazy to think that four inches could be the only difference between being the number two pick in the draft and going late in the third round.
But if that’s truly the case, then the Browns got a legitimately talented quarterback at a serious value.
It’s crazy to think that four inches could be the only difference between being the number two pick in the draft and going late in the third round.
It might even be the only difference between waking up next to Heidi Kluhm and waking up next to Roseann Barr...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Nathan Zegura said Dillon Gabriel was the number two quarterback on the Browns board after Cam Ward.
He said Gabriel wins the way Kevin Stefanski wants his quarterback to win.
- Great decision maker
- Accurate from the pocket
- Can throw on the move from both directions
- Excellent pocket movementStefanski also told Zegura that, while they were watching the tape, the team kept asking, “Where does the height show up?”
The biggest knock against Gabriel is his height, which is listed at 5’11”. But his smaller stature didn’t prevent him from being the most productive quarterback in college football history.
Zegura said:
“If Dillon Gabriel is 6’3”, he probably is the number two [overall] pick in this draft.”
It’s crazy to think that four inches could be the only difference between being the number two pick in the draft and going late in the third round.
But if that’s truly the case, then the Browns got a legitimately talented quarterback at a serious value.
Nathan Zegura said Dillon Gabriel was the number two quarterback on the Browns board after Cam Ward.
He said Gabriel wins the way Kevin Stefanski wants his quarterback to win.
- Great decision maker
- Accurate from the pocket
- Can throw on the move from both directions
- Excellent pocket movementStefanski also told Zegura that, while they were watching the tape, the team kept asking, “Where does the height show up?”
The biggest knock against Gabriel is his height, which is listed at 5’11”. But his smaller stature didn’t prevent him from being the most productive quarterback in college football history.
Zegura said:
“If Dillon Gabriel is 6’3”, he probably is the number two [overall] pick in this draft.”
It’s crazy to think that four inches could be the only difference between being the number two pick in the draft and going late in the third round.
But if that’s truly the case, then the Browns got a legitimately talented quarterback at a serious value.
This guy has been pretty freakin good no matter where he's played. Here's some research I cut and pasted for us before the draft.
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A little off topic, but I keep hearing the media say "I can't understand what the Browns are doing at QB?" And to some extent it's perfectly reasonable. The browns have earned a lot of criticisms, especially at QB. But there is one team that is in a worse or comparable situation depending on how you look at it.
Shittsburgh
The media tends to ignore them on this topic, but Tomlin, nor the FO, has really had a visible plan to fix it. Rodgers is a bandaid at best if they sign him and not much better than Flacco at this point. Randolph sucks to the point they drafted Pickett.
The fact they always hover around .500 means they won't be drafting in the range that the franchise talent gets drafted without trading away the future.
Again, I get it, the Browns have earned this, but whether you like the plan or not, the Browns appear to have one. The Steelers seem content to teabag themselves and the media just ignores it.
Back to the topic, the only QB I know for sure will be on the team this season is Gabriel. Pickett is likely gone, but stranger things have happened.
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A little off topic, but I keep hearing the media say "I can't understand what the Browns are doing at QB?" And to some extent it's perfectly reasonable. The browns have earned a lot of criticisms, especially at QB. But there is one team that is in a worse or comparable situation depending on how you look at it.
Shittsburgh
The media tends to ignore them on this topic, but Tomlin, nor the FO, has really had a visible plan to fix it. Rodgers is a bandaid at best if they sign him and not much better than Flacco at this point. Randolph sucks to the point they drafted Pickett.
The fact they always hover around .500 means they won't be drafting in the range that the franchise talent gets drafted without trading away the future.
Again, I get it, the Browns have earned this, but whether you like the plan or not, the Browns appear to have one. The Steelers seem content to teabag themselves and the media just ignores it.
Back to the topic, the only QB I know for sure will be on the team this season is Gabriel. Pickett is likely gone, but stranger things have happened.
I get it, the Browns have earned this, but whether you like the plan or not, the Browns appear to have one.
Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year. And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders. So much for the plan. We're now into plan B....
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
It’s crazy to think that four inches could be the only difference between being the number two pick in the draft and going late in the third round.
It might even be the only difference between waking up next to Heidi Kluhm and waking up next to Roseann Barr...
It might even be the only difference between waking up next to Heidi Kluhm and waking up next to Roseann Barr...
You are still talking about height, right?
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I get it, the Browns have earned this, but whether you like the plan or not, the Browns appear to have one.
Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year. And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders. So much for the plan. We're now into plan B....
Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year. And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders. So much for the plan. We're now into plan B....
All that plan A for Klubnik? The last time Clemson lost less than 4 games was in 2021 so if he's the missing football messiah to our journey - I need the type of proof that teams can't beat him. The same ACC made a 1st round draft pick out of Pickett in 2022. One can rack up a lot of junk-time stats in that Conference these days with UGA Head Coach Kirby Smart making sure he prevents a lot of high school recruits from leaving the state of Georgia for college football in the ACC. Pickett is here now as is another former ACC QB as is another former Clemson QB that actually was tough to beat before he led the Houston Texans to the playoffs twice and erased a deficit to beat Josh Allen's Bills. Looked like the trouble in Houston hit after during/after he was officially crowned king in that football program before the Cleveland Browns signed up to take on 100% of the karma and punishment. If that wasn't enough - they committed/guaranteed a 230 million $ salary to do so. The good news is the Browns are finally back to drafting in the 1st round again. Let's see what happens with the group of QBs they have right now. Here's Klubnik's stats below, which looked good in 2024 - but against who and how much of that was junk-time stats for a team that lost 4 games? Is it worthy of tanking for? They drafted Baker after tanking - and the last season he played he was throwing 41 TD passes for Tampa Bay. Gotta tell ya - it's tough to get pumped up for another tank job in Cleveland under this ownership.
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I get it, the Browns have earned this, but whether you like the plan or not, the Browns appear to have one.
Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year. And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders. So much for the plan. We're now into plan B....
Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year. And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders. So much for the plan. We're now into plan B....
It's so fucking irritating.
They were this fucking close to actually pulling off a concise plan of attack regarding the QB position.
1. Put Watson on IR, thus freeing a roster space. CHECK.
2. Trading DTR and letting Winston go. CHECK and CHECK.
3. Get two veteran QBs. CHECK and CHECK.
4. Trade down from #2, pick up another first round pick in 2026. HUGE CHECK.
5. Draft a mid-round QB to be the eventual #2 guy. CHECK. (Perhaps too early for Gabriel, but whatever).
THEY PULLED IT ALL OFF!
And then...
Now regarding the '26 Draft, I don't see Arch Manning coming out. He could, but he would only have less than 20 college starts and he comes from money and would get paid a boatload of money to play college football in 2026.
But I will have my eyes on Garrett Nussmeier (LSU), Cade Klubnik (Clemson), LaNorris Sellers (South Carolina) and Drew Allar (Penn State). Someone else might emerge... hell, Carson Beck might re-emerge down in Miami.
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Apparently, their plan was to acquire draft assets to get the franchise QB next year and possibly draft his backup this year. And the plan almost worked...except nobody drafted Sanders. So much for the plan. We're now into plan B....
It's so fucking irritating.
They were this fucking close to actually pulling off a concise plan of attack regarding the QB position.
1. Put Watson on IR, thus freeing a roster space. CHECK.
2. Trading DTR and letting Winston go. CHECK and CHECK.
3. Get two veteran QBs. CHECK and CHECK.
4. Trade down from #2, pick up another first round pick in 2026. HUGE CHECK.
5. Draft a mid-round QB to be the eventual #2 guy. CHECK. (Perhaps too early for Gabriel, but whatever).
THEY PULLED IT ALL OFF!
And then...
Now regarding the '26 Draft, I don't see Arch Manning coming out. He could, but he would only have less than 20 college starts and he comes from money and would get paid a boatload of money to play college football in 2026.
But I will have my eyes on Garrett Nussmeier (LSU), Cade Klubnik (Clemson), LaNorris Sellers (South Carolina) and Drew Allar (Penn State). Someone else might emerge... hell, Carson Beck might re-emerge down in Miami.
regarding the '26 Draft, I don't see Arch Manning coming out. He could, but he would only have less than 20 college starts
1st of all, who names their kid Arch? Yup, definitely not enough starts. But lineage would drive up his value. I don't know what the '27 QB draft class looks like, but '26 could be a competitive environment for QB's.
It seems like drafting Sanders screwed everything up. And it could've. But we still DO have the draft capital for the '26 QB round robin. And we have the 2nd hardest schedule. We will have to see how Stef does with these 2 rookie QB's. It's not really fair to give a rookie QB one season to prove whether he's worth hanging onto or not. And we have TWO to evaluate.
The way I see it is...they have to decide if either of them is good enough for them to NOT draft a QB next season. Now if it's Shedeur that becomes the starter, then Gabriel would probably be kept as the backup. But if Gabriel becomes the starter, then probably Sanders would have to go as his Daddy would probably raise a fuss that his son ain't no backup!
If the decision is to go ahead and draft the best 1st round QB they can get then Gabriel would probably have to be the backup (unless he flat out sucks). And Sanders would have to go. If Gabriel sucks and Sanders isn't much better then they'll both have to go and we'll look for a veteran backup and a development QB to eventually be the backup.
It'll be an interesting thing to watch unfold. (if not painful) ?
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regarding the '26 Draft, I don't see Arch Manning coming out. He could, but he would only have less than 20 college starts
1st of all, who names their kid Arch? Yup, definitely not enough starts. But lineage would drive up his value. I don't know what the '27 QB draft class looks like, but '26 could be a competitive environment for QB's.
It seems like drafting Sanders screwed everything up. And it could've. But we still DO have the draft capital for the '26 QB round robin. And we have the 2nd hardest schedule. We will have to see how Stef does with these 2 rookie QB's. It's not really fair to give a rookie QB one season to prove whether he's worth hanging onto or not. And we have TWO to evaluate.
The way I see it is...they have to decide if either of them is good enough for them to NOT draft a QB next season. Now if it's Shedeur that becomes the starter, then Gabriel would probably be kept as the backup. But if Gabriel becomes the starter, then probably Sanders would have to go as his Daddy would probably raise a fuss that his son ain't no backup!
If the decision is to go ahead and draft the best 1st round QB they can get then Gabriel would probably have to be the backup (unless he flat out sucks). And Sanders would have to go. If Gabriel sucks and Sanders isn't much better then they'll both have to go and we'll look for a veteran backup and a development QB to eventually be the backup.
It'll be an interesting thing to watch unfold. (if not painful) ?
1st of all, who names their kid Arch? Yup, definitely not enough starts. But lineage would drive up his value. I don't know what the '27 QB draft class looks like, but '26 could be a competitive environment for QB's.
It seems like drafting Sanders screwed everything up. And it could've. But we still DO have the draft capital for the '26 QB round robin. And we have the 2nd hardest schedule. We will have to see how Stef does with these 2 rookie QB's. It's not really fair to give a rookie QB one season to prove whether he's worth hanging onto or not. And we have TWO to evaluate.
The way I see it is...they have to decide if either of them is good enough for them to NOT draft a QB next season. Now if it's Shedeur that becomes the starter, then Gabriel would probably be kept as the backup. But if Gabriel becomes the starter, then probably Sanders would have to go as his Daddy would probably raise a fuss that his son ain't no backup!
If the decision is to go ahead and draft the best 1st round QB they can get then Gabriel would probably have to be the backup (unless he flat out sucks). And Sanders would have to go. If Gabriel sucks and Sanders isn't much better then they'll both have to go and we'll look for a veteran backup and a development QB to eventually be the backup.
It'll be an interesting thing to watch unfold. (if not painful) ?
I would be ok with taking Allar or Klubnik next year..
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