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  • So, Florida will get FLOODED !!!! and have a WATER SHORTAGE !!! BE SCARED VOTE DEMOCOMMIE !!!
    lol
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    Sep 14, 2024According to the report, Florida could experience a water supply shortage as early as next year (2025) and it is expected to increase in severity through 2040.
  • So, Florida will get FLOODED !!!! and have a WATER SHORTAGE !!! BE SCARED VOTE DEMOCOMMIE !!!
    lol
    ***************************
    Sep 14, 2024According to the report, Florida could experience a water supply shortage as early as next year (2025) and it is expected to increase in severity through 2040.

    @calfoxwc said:

    So, Florida will get FLOODED !!!! and have a WATER SHORTAGE !!! BE SCARED VOTE DEMOCOMMIE !!!
    lol
    ***************************
    Sep 14, 2024According to the report, Florida could experience a water supply shortage as early as next year (2025) and it is expected to increase in severity through 2040.

    I’ll read that right after l read the Redstate article in the OP, right after you paste it for us non-subscribers.

    But l don’t think you can because l don’t think you have access to it yourself. Feel free to prove me wrong.

  • @mld-woody said:

    But yes, a typical Cal tantrum of Google search link vomit. And you can guarantee he didn't read them all

    Actually, this theory of Cal only ever reading headlines makes a lot of sense 

    I’m convinced that’s what’s happening. I don’t think anyone here has access to Redstate articles, including Calf. He woulda copy/pasted it if so. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    I’m convinced that’s what’s happening. I don’t think anyone here has access to Redstate articles, including Calf. He woulda copy/pasted it if so. 

    It's a great theory. Bravo to you sir

  • Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today.

    Nevertheless, climate scolds love to loudly proclaim, "Antarctica is melting!" The problem is, it just ain't so. We have discussed this problem with the climate scolds' focus on the southern island continent before:

    Now, this is an issue that's a tad more complex than just the amount of ice. It's also true that a slightly warmer climate in extremely cold places like Antarctica (and Alaska) can actually increase snowfall, from whence the ice comes. Look at records of temperature and snowfall, and you'll find that snow is generally observed at more moderate temperatures; the really extreme temps, minus 20 and lower, are often found on clear days when there is no insulating blanket of cloud.

    But that's not the point. The point is that facts don't really matter to climate scolds. As Issues & Insights points out:

    While this is an issue that, at least, can be observed - Antarctica's glaciers are really big and we can measure them - too many of the failed predictions on which the climate scolds base their arguments are not observable or measurable. Why? Because they rely too heavily on garbage-in, garbage-out computer models. 

    We understand the weather enough to look at patterns and predict the weather 7-10 days out. But climate is a different story, as it is generally accepted that climate works on longer time scales, from tens to hundreds of thousands, millions, and even billions of years.

    Climate is also a vast, utterly chaotic system. Deriving computer models to predict long-term climate changes is much like deriving computer models to replace animal testing in pharmaceutical development; the best computer models humans can produce are laughably crude compared to the natural phenomena they attempt to model.

    So, “put not thy trust in princes,” or in politicians, nor guys in white lab coats pushing a political agenda, and especially not in loudmouthed, Hamas-supporting Swedish teenagers. They’re pushing an agenda, and it will not work out in your favor; meanwhile, regardless of what people do, the Earth will keep ticking along, following the old feedback loops and patterns it has followed for four and a half billion years now, regardless of what we tiny little humans do. And when we look at actual measurements - actual facts - we find, with routine assurance, that the reality is generally the opposite of what the climate scolds claim.

    Here is the article copy and pasted.?

  • Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today.

    Nevertheless, climate scolds love to loudly proclaim, "Antarctica is melting!" The problem is, it just ain't so. We have discussed this problem with the climate scolds' focus on the southern island continent before:

    Our southernmost continent is, we’ve been told, the suffocating canary in the global coal mine. The more ice loss in Antarctica, the greater trouble we’re in. So what do we make of a study which found that between 2021 and 2023, there was a record-breaking increase in the Antarctic Ice Sheet?

    We mark it down as another in a long line of misses from the global warming zealots.

    “Notably, four major glaciers in the Wilkes Land–Queen Mary Land region of East Antarctica reversed their previous pattern of accelerated mass loss from 2011 to 2020 and instead showed significant mass gain during the 2021 to 2023 period,” says an article in SciTechDaily summarizing the report from Tongji University researchers.

    How could such an unanticipated event happen?

    “The study points to anomalous precipitation as the primary driver, suggesting that natural variability plays a significant role in short-term ice sheet changes,” says climate site Watts Up With That? It also “underscores the complexity of Antarctica’s ice system and the pitfalls of oversimplified climate narratives.”

    Forgot to insert this

  • another false claim by a woodpecker or a squirrel.

    They say stupid crap then say "prove me wrong" then they refuse to read the proof and.....

    It never ends with the left.

    I do see "VIP" on the sites I open. I guess I was grandfathered in before they started charging ?

    I have never paid for any site, that would be silly.

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    Another Study Confirms: Antarctica Isn't Melting

     
    By Ward Clark | 11:30 AM on May 06, 2025
    The opinions expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of RedState.com.
    image.thumb.jpeg.9c74d99e9c3926fb6097154f5b4d3a75.jpeg
    Hamish Pritchard/British Antarctic Survey via AP
    "Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today."
  • JaxJ Jax

    Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today.

    Nevertheless, climate scolds love to loudly proclaim, "Antarctica is melting!" The problem is, it just ain't so. We have discussed this problem with the climate scolds' focus on the southern island continent before:

    Now, this is an issue that's a tad more complex than just the amount of ice. It's also true that a slightly warmer climate in extremely cold places like Antarctica (and Alaska) can actually increase snowfall, from whence the ice comes. Look at records of temperature and snowfall, and you'll find that snow is generally observed at more moderate temperatures; the really extreme temps, minus 20 and lower, are often found on clear days when there is no insulating blanket of cloud.

    But that's not the point. The point is that facts don't really matter to climate scolds. As Issues & Insights points out:

    While this is an issue that, at least, can be observed - Antarctica's glaciers are really big and we can measure them - too many of the failed predictions on which the climate scolds base their arguments are not observable or measurable. Why? Because they rely too heavily on garbage-in, garbage-out computer models. 

    We understand the weather enough to look at patterns and predict the weather 7-10 days out. But climate is a different story, as it is generally accepted that climate works on longer time scales, from tens to hundreds of thousands, millions, and even billions of years.

    Climate is also a vast, utterly chaotic system. Deriving computer models to predict long-term climate changes is much like deriving computer models to replace animal testing in pharmaceutical development; the best computer models humans can produce are laughably crude compared to the natural phenomena they attempt to model.

    So, “put not thy trust in princes,” or in politicians, nor guys in white lab coats pushing a political agenda, and especially not in loudmouthed, Hamas-supporting Swedish teenagers. They’re pushing an agenda, and it will not work out in your favor; meanwhile, regardless of what people do, the Earth will keep ticking along, following the old feedback loops and patterns it has followed for four and a half billion years now, regardless of what we tiny little humans do. And when we look at actual measurements - actual facts - we find, with routine assurance, that the reality is generally the opposite of what the climate scolds claim.

    Here is the article copy and pasted.?

    @jax said:

    Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today.

    Nevertheless, climate scolds love to loudly proclaim, "Antarctica is melting!" The problem is, it just ain't so. We have discussed this problem with the climate scolds' focus on the southern island continent before:

    Now, this is an issue that's a tad more complex than just the amount of ice. It's also true that a slightly warmer climate in extremely cold places like Antarctica (and Alaska) can actually increase snowfall, from whence the ice comes. Look at records of temperature and snowfall, and you'll find that snow is generally observed at more moderate temperatures; the really extreme temps, minus 20 and lower, are often found on clear days when there is no insulating blanket of cloud.

    But that's not the point. The point is that facts don't really matter to climate scolds. As Issues & Insights points out:

    While this is an issue that, at least, can be observed - Antarctica's glaciers are really big and we can measure them - too many of the failed predictions on which the climate scolds base their arguments are not observable or measurable. Why? Because they rely too heavily on garbage-in, garbage-out computer models. 

    We understand the weather enough to look at patterns and predict the weather 7-10 days out. But climate is a different story, as it is generally accepted that climate works on longer time scales, from tens to hundreds of thousands, millions, and even billions of years.

    Climate is also a vast, utterly chaotic system. Deriving computer models to predict long-term climate changes is much like deriving computer models to replace animal testing in pharmaceutical development; the best computer models humans can produce are laughably crude compared to the natural phenomena they attempt to model.

    So, “put not thy trust in princes,” or in politicians, nor guys in white lab coats pushing a political agenda, and especially not in loudmouthed, Hamas-supporting Swedish teenagers. They’re pushing an agenda, and it will not work out in your favor; meanwhile, regardless of what people do, the Earth will keep ticking along, following the old feedback loops and patterns it has followed for four and a half billion years now, regardless of what we tiny little humans do. And when we look at actual measurements - actual facts - we find, with routine assurance, that the reality is generally the opposite of what the climate scolds claim.

    Here is the article copy and pasted.?

    You’re a good guy Jax, thanks for sharing. I hope you didn’t incur a cost for this but l assume you did. You may have to be the de facto Redstate guy from now on.

    I’ve seen this argument before. 4.5 billion years ago the Earth was a cooling ball of lava with a toxic atmosphere that humans couldn’t exist in, so they obviously had no effect on the very different climate at that time. Can’t really argue with that. 

    I like that the author uses the word “scolds” as a noun.

  • JaxJ Jax

    Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today.

    Nevertheless, climate scolds love to loudly proclaim, "Antarctica is melting!" The problem is, it just ain't so. We have discussed this problem with the climate scolds' focus on the southern island continent before:

    Our southernmost continent is, we’ve been told, the suffocating canary in the global coal mine. The more ice loss in Antarctica, the greater trouble we’re in. So what do we make of a study which found that between 2021 and 2023, there was a record-breaking increase in the Antarctic Ice Sheet?

    We mark it down as another in a long line of misses from the global warming zealots.

    “Notably, four major glaciers in the Wilkes Land–Queen Mary Land region of East Antarctica reversed their previous pattern of accelerated mass loss from 2011 to 2020 and instead showed significant mass gain during the 2021 to 2023 period,” says an article in SciTechDaily summarizing the report from Tongji University researchers.

    How could such an unanticipated event happen?

    “The study points to anomalous precipitation as the primary driver, suggesting that natural variability plays a significant role in short-term ice sheet changes,” says climate site Watts Up With That? It also “underscores the complexity of Antarctica’s ice system and the pitfalls of oversimplified climate narratives.”

    Forgot to insert this

    @jax said:

    Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today.

    Nevertheless, climate scolds love to loudly proclaim, "Antarctica is melting!" The problem is, it just ain't so. We have discussed this problem with the climate scolds' focus on the southern island continent before:

    Our southernmost continent is, we’ve been told, the suffocating canary in the global coal mine. The more ice loss in Antarctica, the greater trouble we’re in. So what do we make of a study which found that between 2021 and 2023, there was a record-breaking increase in the Antarctic Ice Sheet?

    We mark it down as another in a long line of misses from the global warming zealots.

    “Notably, four major glaciers in the Wilkes Land–Queen Mary Land region of East Antarctica reversed their previous pattern of accelerated mass loss from 2011 to 2020 and instead showed significant mass gain during the 2021 to 2023 period,” says an article in SciTechDaily summarizing the report from Tongji University researchers.

    How could such an unanticipated event happen?

    “The study points to anomalous precipitation as the primary driver, suggesting that natural variability plays a significant role in short-term ice sheet changes,” says climate site Watts Up With That? It also “underscores the complexity of Antarctica’s ice system and the pitfalls of oversimplified climate narratives.”

    Forgot to insert this

    The whole “growing ice sheets” phenomenon could be interpreted a couple different ways in Antarctica. The phenomenon of global warming has been a thing for a few decades and theoretically we’ve been doing things to mitigate it, so this could be seen as a “see guys, the things we are doing are working!” type thing. 

  • another false claim by a woodpecker or a squirrel.

    They say stupid crap then say "prove me wrong" then they refuse to read the proof and.....

    It never ends with the left.

    I do see "VIP" on the sites I open. I guess I was grandfathered in before they started charging ?

    I have never paid for any site, that would be silly.

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    Another Study Confirms: Antarctica Isn't Melting

     
    By Ward Clark | 11:30 AM on May 06, 2025
    The opinions expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of RedState.com.
    image.thumb.jpeg.9c74d99e9c3926fb6097154f5b4d3a75.jpeg
    Hamish Pritchard/British Antarctic Survey via AP
    "Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today."

    @calfoxwc said:

    another false claim by a woodpecker or a squirrel.

    They say stupid crap then say "prove me wrong" then they refuse to read the proof and.....

    It never ends with the left.

    I do see "VIP" on the sites I open. I guess I was grandfathered in before they started charging ?

    I have never paid for any site, that would be silly.

    ********************************************

    Another Study Confirms: Antarctica Isn't Melting

     
    By Ward Clark | 11:30 AM on May 06, 2025
    The opinions expressed by contributors are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of RedState.com.
    image.thumb.jpeg.9c74d99e9c3926fb6097154f5b4d3a75.jpeg
    Hamish Pritchard/British Antarctic Survey via AP
    "Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today."

    The “VIP” you see on Redstate articles is how you can sign up to be a VIP. We all see it. If you were an actual VIP you would have access to the entire article.

  • Jesus I was reading that and I thought it was just AI. WTF is a "climate scold"? 

    I also think it is hilarious that climate change deniers constantly mention the climate has changed in the past, as if anyone is disputing that. 

    But the attack on expertise in this country continues. Every single climatologist across the globe is now clearly just a liberal shill. They're ALL in on it, all paid for by Biden or something. Ridiculous. 

    I'll have to look into the data later. But decades of ice loss and then an "anomalous" ice gain for a few years, specifically in that location, doesn't disprove climate change. Deniers, as evidenced by this board, love taking one specific thing, misinterpreting it, and then using it at reason to ignore the mountain of evidence on the other side. 

  • @jax said:

    Antarctica, that icy continent that encompasses the South Pole, has been a source of panic for the climate scolds for years. It was, only a few million years ago, covered in temperate forest. Now it's covered in ice, as the world is a chillier place than it once was. Yes, the planet's climate does change, and through most of Earth's history, it's been warmer than it is today.

    Nevertheless, climate scolds love to loudly proclaim, "Antarctica is melting!" The problem is, it just ain't so. We have discussed this problem with the climate scolds' focus on the southern island continent before:

    Our southernmost continent is, we’ve been told, the suffocating canary in the global coal mine. The more ice loss in Antarctica, the greater trouble we’re in. So what do we make of a study which found that between 2021 and 2023, there was a record-breaking increase in the Antarctic Ice Sheet?

    We mark it down as another in a long line of misses from the global warming zealots.

    “Notably, four major glaciers in the Wilkes Land–Queen Mary Land region of East Antarctica reversed their previous pattern of accelerated mass loss from 2011 to 2020 and instead showed significant mass gain during the 2021 to 2023 period,” says an article in SciTechDaily summarizing the report from Tongji University researchers.

    How could such an unanticipated event happen?

    “The study points to anomalous precipitation as the primary driver, suggesting that natural variability plays a significant role in short-term ice sheet changes,” says climate site Watts Up With That? It also “underscores the complexity of Antarctica’s ice system and the pitfalls of oversimplified climate narratives.”

    Forgot to insert this

    The whole “growing ice sheets” phenomenon could be interpreted a couple different ways in Antarctica. The phenomenon of global warming has been a thing for a few decades and theoretically we’ve been doing things to mitigate it, so this could be seen as a “see guys, the things we are doing are working!” type thing. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The whole “growing ice sheets” phenomenon could be interpreted a couple different ways in Antarctica. The phenomenon of global warming has been a thing for a few decades and theoretically we’ve been doing things to mitigate it, so this could be seen as a “see guys, the things we are doing are working!” type thing. 

    Based on what I've seen we're nowhere close to that yet. 

  • Jesus I was reading that and I thought it was just AI. WTF is a "climate scold"? 

    I also think it is hilarious that climate change deniers constantly mention the climate has changed in the past, as if anyone is disputing that. 

    But the attack on expertise in this country continues. Every single climatologist across the globe is now clearly just a liberal shill. They're ALL in on it, all paid for by Biden or something. Ridiculous. 

    I'll have to look into the data later. But decades of ice loss and then an "anomalous" ice gain for a few years, specifically in that location, doesn't disprove climate change. Deniers, as evidenced by this board, love taking one specific thing, misinterpreting it, and then using it at reason to ignore the mountain of evidence on the other side. 

    @mld-woody said:

    I'll have to look into the data later.

    yeah, we've been waiting for years for you to backup the crap you spew.

    You can't. You just say you did.

    Doesn't work, birdie.

    Go ahead, swim in Egypt right on cue.

    image.gif.407609fc6dde48dd7b1faa72342a487d.gif

  • @mld-woody said:

    I'll have to look into the data later.

    yeah, we've been waiting for years for you to backup the crap you spew.

    You can't. You just say you did.

    Doesn't work, birdie.

    Go ahead, swim in Egypt right on cue.

    image.gif.407609fc6dde48dd7b1faa72342a487d.gif

    @calfoxwc said:

    yeah, we've been waiting for years for you to backup the crap you spew.

    You can't. You just say you did.

    Doesn't work, birdie.

    Go ahead, swim in Egypt right on cue.

    image.gif.407609fc6dde48dd7b1faa72342a487d.gif

    Cal, we've proven you can't read. You can't comprehend. You can't take on new facts. You're an intellectual midget. A child. A waste of space actively making this world worse for everyone in your final days. 

    I've posted countless times debunking your climate change deniers bullshit. Look up those threads. Read. Comprehend. For once in your pathetic, miserable life. 

  • @calfoxwc said:

    yeah, we've been waiting for years for you to backup the crap you spew.

    You can't. You just say you did.

    Doesn't work, birdie.

    Go ahead, swim in Egypt right on cue.

    image.gif.407609fc6dde48dd7b1faa72342a487d.gif

    Cal, we've proven you can't read. You can't comprehend. You can't take on new facts. You're an intellectual midget. A child. A waste of space actively making this world worse for everyone in your final days. 

    I've posted countless times debunking your climate change deniers bullshit. Look up those threads. Read. Comprehend. For once in your pathetic, miserable life. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Cal, we've proven you can't read. You can't comprehend. You can't take on new facts. You're an intellectual midget. A child. A waste of space actively making this world worse for everyone in your final days.

    Cal destroys you in every post and all you do is call him names. ?

  • JaxJ Jax

    @mld-woody said:

    Cal, we've proven you can't read. You can't comprehend. You can't take on new facts. You're an intellectual midget. A child. A waste of space actively making this world worse for everyone in your final days.

    Cal destroys you in every post and all you do is call him names. ?

    @jax said:

    Cal destroys you in every post and all you do is call him names. ?

    Oh wow, you must not be able to read either. What a damn shame. Though I'm noticing a trend. 

    And I'm also realizing I'm feeding into what you do desperately want... Me to reply to you. That's depressingly clear across every thread I post in...

  • @calfoxwc said:

    yeah, we've been waiting for years for you to backup the crap you spew.

    You can't. You just say you did.

    Doesn't work, birdie.

    Go ahead, swim in Egypt right on cue.

    image.gif.407609fc6dde48dd7b1faa72342a487d.gif

    Cal, we've proven you can't read. You can't comprehend. You can't take on new facts. You're an intellectual midget. A child. A waste of space actively making this world worse for everyone in your final days. 

    I've posted countless times debunking your climate change deniers bullshit. Look up those threads. Read. Comprehend. For once in your pathetic, miserable life. 

    @mld-woody said:

    peck *fart*

    all you've ever done is bitch at other non-liberal posters and level insults at them.

    You have never debunked anything, you just bitch and say you did.

    and, you never never? added anything legitimate/intelligent to any political conversation around here. We have twisted your beak so many times, and you still don't get it.

    Have a nice twisted beak day.

    image.jpeg.4c31b49e55a45afa1394092e254aca24.jpeg

  • @ibleedbrown said:

    The whole “growing ice sheets” phenomenon could be interpreted a couple different ways in Antarctica. The phenomenon of global warming has been a thing for a few decades and theoretically we’ve been doing things to mitigate it, so this could be seen as a “see guys, the things we are doing are working!” type thing. 

    Based on what I've seen we're nowhere close to that yet. 

    @mld-woody said:

    Based on what I've seen we're nowhere close to that yet. 

    But the ice is growing!

    It astounds me that the concept of global warming has such magnificent legs. That’s a news term for a storyline that captures attentions for a long, long time. Here we are in the Trump part 2 phase and it’s still a hot topic for people who don’t read the articles they post. It’s so captivating it’s not even worth reading about. 

    I’m open minded about it all. So open minded that l don’t even have much of an opinion about it. It’s complex stuff and there is no sense of urgency to have an opinion on it.

    I already consider myself a conservationist. Clean air, clean water, parks and wildlife, l’m into it. And so are all of you. We’ve had these discussions. 

    It’s weird to me that global warming has become this strange sticking point to make us think that we don’t all want the same thing. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    Based on what I've seen we're nowhere close to that yet. 

    But the ice is growing!

    It astounds me that the concept of global warming has such magnificent legs. That’s a news term for a storyline that captures attentions for a long, long time. Here we are in the Trump part 2 phase and it’s still a hot topic for people who don’t read the articles they post. It’s so captivating it’s not even worth reading about. 

    I’m open minded about it all. So open minded that l don’t even have much of an opinion about it. It’s complex stuff and there is no sense of urgency to have an opinion on it.

    I already consider myself a conservationist. Clean air, clean water, parks and wildlife, l’m into it. And so are all of you. We’ve had these discussions. 

    It’s weird to me that global warming has become this strange sticking point to make us think that we don’t all want the same thing. 

    @ibleedbrown said:

    But the ice is growing!

    It astounds me that the concept of global warming has such magnificent legs. That’s a news term for a storyline that captures attentions for a long, long time. Here we are in the Trump part 2 phase and it’s still a hot topic for people who don’t read the articles they post. It’s so captivating it’s not even worth reading about. 

    I’m open minded about it all. So open minded that l don’t even have much of an opinion about it. It’s complex stuff and there is no sense of urgency to have an opinion on it.

    I already consider myself a conservationist. Clean air, clean water, parks and wildlife, l’m into it. And so are all of you. We’ve had these discussions. 

    It’s weird to me that global warming has become this strange sticking point to make us think that we don’t all want the same thing. 

    Politics. 

    The science and experts will tell you we need to make some real changes to avoid serious consequences down the road

    Those changes will impact certain powerful lobbies, like oil and gas

    Those lobbies fund politicians that will prevent regulations and push for "free market" policies that allow the companies to continue to make money

    Those politicians push views to their constituents and you get the politicization of a scientific issue

  • and. excuses why "they couldn't read it" coming soon:

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1112950/

    Many climate change scientists do not agree that global warming is happening

  • The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change asserts the conclusion that most (more than 50 per cent) of the post-1950 global warming is due to human activity, chiefly greenhouse gas emissions and land use change. But it does not survey its own contributors, let alone anyone else, so we do not know how many