5 QB’s In The Room
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Even if just a coincidence - UCLA has been a pretty good place for the Browns to draft defensive players. Don Rogers and Eric Turner became fan faves almost instantly.
Probably coincidence. I don't think there is some secret mojo going on between the Browns and UCLA defenders. Actually, very few players have been selected from UCLA minus recent flops named DTR, Felton, and Payton. All offensive players.
Probably coincidence. I don't think there is some secret mojo going on between the Browns and UCLA defenders. Actually, very few players have been selected from UCLA minus recent flops named DTR, Felton, and Payton. All offensive players.
Yeah probably. I agree they don't usually have a lot of defensive players in the draft but when they do - it's easy to remember guys like Kenny Easley, Carnell Lake, Eric Turner, Don Rogers, Ken Norton.
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Probably coincidence. I don't think there is some secret mojo going on between the Browns and UCLA defenders. Actually, very few players have been selected from UCLA minus recent flops named DTR, Felton, and Payton. All offensive players.
Yeah probably. I agree they don't usually have a lot of defensive players in the draft but when they do - it's easy to remember guys like Kenny Easley, Carnell Lake, Eric Turner, Don Rogers, Ken Norton.
Yeah probably. I agree they don't usually have a lot of defensive players in the draft but when they do - it's easy to remember guys like Kenny Easley, Carnell Lake, Eric Turner, Don Rogers, Ken Norton.
We were talking Browns players. If we are shifting the goalposts, I agree that Easley and Lake were good players. Norton, he made a pro bowl or two as I remember, but not one I would consider really good.
Easly is in the HOF I believe, Lake i am not sure but know he was a pro bowl player on 3-4 occasions.
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Yeah probably. I agree they don't usually have a lot of defensive players in the draft but when they do - it's easy to remember guys like Kenny Easley, Carnell Lake, Eric Turner, Don Rogers, Ken Norton.
We were talking Browns players. If we are shifting the goalposts, I agree that Easley and Lake were good players. Norton, he made a pro bowl or two as I remember, but not one I would consider really good.
Easly is in the HOF I believe, Lake i am not sure but know he was a pro bowl player on 3-4 occasions.
We were talking Browns players. If we are shifting the goalposts, I agree that Easley and Lake were good players. Norton, he made a pro bowl or two as I remember, but not one I would consider really good.
Easly is in the HOF I believe, Lake i am not sure but know he was a pro bowl player on 3-4 occasions.
Really? ?Shifting goalposts? No, that's your skill in this one. This is what I wrote (pasted below) pertaining to defense only and it didn't say frequently. Not to worry, it only began with "Even if just a coincidence." You responded with "Actually, very few players have been selected from UCLA minus recent flops named DTR, Felton, and Payton. All offensive players."
There's your goalpost moving by you from the onset. You did that knowing 2 of the guys you mentioned were drafted in the 5th round (DTR and Jordan Payton) and 1 in the 6th (Demetric Felton). Let's not pretend we drafted DTR with expectations of Troy Aikman in return - or- Demetric Felton with expectations of Maurice Jones-Drew in return. They did what a lot of guys drafted in those rounds tend to do - make the team for 2-3 years or so and fade. Doesn't make them flops. Don't worry I'll get us back to the defense so we can stay on topic.
My bringing up other UCLA defensive players was really more to illustrate that over time there really haven't been a lot of huge impact defensive guys from that program around the league overall when I could only think of/name 5 guys (but 2 of them were Browns in this league that has 31 other teams). Hopefully Schwesinger becomes the next since he was the reason I somehow got here with you. Yes, Carnell Lake was a 208 lb LBer at UCLA that the Steelers found a niche for at Safety. He made 5 Pro Bowls while being named 1st Team All Pro twice and 2nd Team All Pro 3 times. Ken Norton Jr started at LBer in 2 Super Bowls for the Cowboys and 1 Super Bowl for the 49ers. In matching his volume of 3 SB starts for Conference Champions - he also made 3 Pro Bowls even if you need to think of him as not very good. However you were correct Kenny Easley is in the NFL Hall of Fame.
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We were talking Browns players. If we are shifting the goalposts, I agree that Easley and Lake were good players. Norton, he made a pro bowl or two as I remember, but not one I would consider really good.
Easly is in the HOF I believe, Lake i am not sure but know he was a pro bowl player on 3-4 occasions.
Really? ?Shifting goalposts? No, that's your skill in this one. This is what I wrote (pasted below) pertaining to defense only and it didn't say frequently. Not to worry, it only began with "Even if just a coincidence." You responded with "Actually, very few players have been selected from UCLA minus recent flops named DTR, Felton, and Payton. All offensive players."
There's your goalpost moving by you from the onset. You did that knowing 2 of the guys you mentioned were drafted in the 5th round (DTR and Jordan Payton) and 1 in the 6th (Demetric Felton). Let's not pretend we drafted DTR with expectations of Troy Aikman in return - or- Demetric Felton with expectations of Maurice Jones-Drew in return. They did what a lot of guys drafted in those rounds tend to do - make the team for 2-3 years or so and fade. Doesn't make them flops. Don't worry I'll get us back to the defense so we can stay on topic.
My bringing up other UCLA defensive players was really more to illustrate that over time there really haven't been a lot of huge impact defensive guys from that program around the league overall when I could only think of/name 5 guys (but 2 of them were Browns in this league that has 31 other teams). Hopefully Schwesinger becomes the next since he was the reason I somehow got here with you. Yes, Carnell Lake was a 208 lb LBer at UCLA that the Steelers found a niche for at Safety. He made 5 Pro Bowls while being named 1st Team All Pro twice and 2nd Team All Pro 3 times. Ken Norton Jr started at LBer in 2 Super Bowls for the Cowboys and 1 Super Bowl for the 49ers. In matching his volume of 3 SB starts for Conference Champions - he also made 3 Pro Bowls even if you need to think of him as not very good. However you were correct Kenny Easley is in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Really? ?Shifting goalposts? No, that's your skill in this one. This is what I wrote (pasted below) pertaining to defense only and it didn't say frequently. Not to worry, it only began with "Even if just a coincidence." You responded with "Actually, very few players have been selected from UCLA minus recent flops named DTR, Felton, and Payton. All offensive players."
There's your goalpost moving by you from the onset. You did that knowing 2 of the guys you mentioned were drafted in the 5th round (DTR and Jordan Payton) and 1 in the 6th (Demetric Felton). Let's not pretend we drafted DTR with expectations of Troy Aikman in return - or- Demetric Felton with expectations of Maurice Jones-Drew in return. They did what a lot of guys drafted in those rounds tend to do - make the team for 2-3 years or so and fade. Doesn't make them flops. Don't worry I'll get us back to the defense so we can stay on topic.
My bringing up other UCLA defensive players was really more to illustrate that over time there really haven't been a lot of huge impact defensive guys from that program around the league overall when I could only think of/name 5 guys (but 2 of them were Browns in this league that has 31 other teams). Hopefully Schwesinger becomes the next since he was the reason I somehow got here with you. Yes, Carnell Lake was a 208 lb LBer at UCLA that the Steelers found a niche for at Safety. He made 5 Pro Bowls while being named 1st Team All Pro twice and 2nd Team All Pro 3 times. Ken Norton Jr started at LBer in 2 Super Bowls for the Cowboys and 1 Super Bowl for the 49ers. In matching his volume of 3 SB starts for Conference Champions - he also made 3 Pro Bowls even if you need to think of him as not very good. However you were correct Kenny Easley is in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Ironically and sadly Rodgers and Turner both passed away.. Let's pray for a better outcome and return on this particular investment so to speak...
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Really? ?Shifting goalposts? No, that's your skill in this one. This is what I wrote (pasted below) pertaining to defense only and it didn't say frequently. Not to worry, it only began with "Even if just a coincidence." You responded with "Actually, very few players have been selected from UCLA minus recent flops named DTR, Felton, and Payton. All offensive players."
There's your goalpost moving by you from the onset. You did that knowing 2 of the guys you mentioned were drafted in the 5th round (DTR and Jordan Payton) and 1 in the 6th (Demetric Felton). Let's not pretend we drafted DTR with expectations of Troy Aikman in return - or- Demetric Felton with expectations of Maurice Jones-Drew in return. They did what a lot of guys drafted in those rounds tend to do - make the team for 2-3 years or so and fade. Doesn't make them flops. Don't worry I'll get us back to the defense so we can stay on topic.
My bringing up other UCLA defensive players was really more to illustrate that over time there really haven't been a lot of huge impact defensive guys from that program around the league overall when I could only think of/name 5 guys (but 2 of them were Browns in this league that has 31 other teams). Hopefully Schwesinger becomes the next since he was the reason I somehow got here with you. Yes, Carnell Lake was a 208 lb LBer at UCLA that the Steelers found a niche for at Safety. He made 5 Pro Bowls while being named 1st Team All Pro twice and 2nd Team All Pro 3 times. Ken Norton Jr started at LBer in 2 Super Bowls for the Cowboys and 1 Super Bowl for the 49ers. In matching his volume of 3 SB starts for Conference Champions - he also made 3 Pro Bowls even if you need to think of him as not very good. However you were correct Kenny Easley is in the NFL Hall of Fame.
Ironically and sadly Rodgers and Turner both passed away.. Let's pray for a better outcome and return on this particular investment so to speak...
Ironically and sadly Rodgers and Turner both passed away.. Let's pray for a better outcome and return on this particular investment so to speak...
Well said! I think Turner got sick when he played for the Raiders but that might need some fact checking as to what & when though Nicks. Yeah, we only had Rogers for 2 seasons. Who woulda thought a bachelor/stag party would be what stopped his life?
Never mind the fact checking - here's what I found.
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Reporters revive trade rumors linking Browns with Falcons' Kirk Cousins
you all know this would be a stupid idea ?
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Reporters revive trade rumors linking Browns with Falcons' Kirk Cousins
you all know this would be a stupid idea ?
you all know this would be a stupid idea ?
Well it is all a part of the stupid season ya know.?
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I bet the new version of the baker boys will tell you Sanders int was the receiver's fault
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I bet the new version of the baker boys will tell you Sanders int was the receiver's fault
I bet the new version of the baker boys will tell you Sanders int was the receiver's fault
It's OTA's and their not even donning pads yet..I'll reserve judgment until the season actually starts..
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
It's OTA's and their not even donning pads yet..I'll reserve judgment until the season actually starts..
? Sometimes it feels like just yesterday where Shep would tell us how many times Colt McCoy's rookie mini-camp passes hit the ground. Over a decade later, we're reading stuff like Dillon Gabriel doesn't look like an NFL QB (our FO's 1st choice of QB in this draft).
You're right. Things change significantly when defenders are allowed to sack/tackle passers. Not for nothing, this team has had a lot of trouble keeping their starting tackles healthy enough to avoid IR the last 2-3 years. There's variables that will impact the success of the passing game that aren't in play before training camp. We'll see what happens...
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It's OTA's and their not even donning pads yet..I'll reserve judgment until the season actually starts..
their not?
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their not?
there not?
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Their knot.
We have 5 QB's. Any NFL exec would say, That means you have none. And that's true for us because we don't know who will open the season as the starter. Except that we know Watson won't.
4 QB's - Who will be the starter?
Dionte Johnson was asked that after mini-camp and he said, They'll probably roll with Pickett for now'.
According to former NFL player T.J. Houshmandzadeh, a source from within the organization let him know that it’s coming down to the wire between Kenny Pickett and Dillon Gabriel (he also said that the source is not a player)
I'm typing this on June 26th so, T.J.'s source saying 'coming down to the wire' is kind of strange. I doubt Stef will have a QB depth chart set up based on one mini-camp.
I personally think that it's Pickett's job to lose. He's the first QB they brought in, they traded assets to get him, he's young and was a 1st round pick.
Gabriel cost them 3rd round assets. Sanders 5th & 6th round assets. The only one that didn't cost them any assets is Flacco, the best pure passer of the bunch...but the waaay oldest.
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I’m not too concerned with depth chart stuff, but l am excited to see how this season shakes out. This is the big Stefanski year in my mind. He’s been handed a lot to deal with in a short amount of time, so at the very least we’ll have a solid idea of what we got in a head coach by season’s end.
I like the guy and l’m rooting for him, obviously. If he succeeds we succeed. This might be a make or break year for him and l think he knows that.
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Me thinks that Flacco will be #1 QB for week 1. Unless the other four QB's can be really good over Flacco.
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Me thinks that Flacco will be #1 QB for week 1. Unless the other four QB's can be really good over Flacco.
Me thinks that Flacco will be #1 QB for week 1. Unless the other four QB's can be really good over Flacco.
Most experience with better weapons than the last time he was here which was the last winning season. Unless one of the others really steps up before regular season, I cannot disagree with you. Personally I hope it is Sanders.
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I’m not too concerned with depth chart stuff, but l am excited to see how this season shakes out. This is the big Stefanski year in my mind. He’s been handed a lot to deal with in a short amount of time, so at the very least we’ll have a solid idea of what we got in a head coach by season’s end.
I like the guy and l’m rooting for him, obviously. If he succeeds we succeed. This might be a make or break year for him and l think he knows that.
so at the very least we’ll have a solid idea of what we got in a head coach by season’s end.
Taking a 7 win team to within a TD of an AFC title appearance and then a wildcard game in 23' after juggling 4-5 QBs should have given a pretty "good idea"
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Shedeur Sanders Reportedly 'Outstanding' With Browns Following …
Jun 17, 2025 · The Cleveland Browns are impressed with Shedeur Sanders after last week's mandatory minicamp, according to ESPN's Peter Schrager.
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I’m not too concerned with depth chart stuff, but l am excited to see how this season shakes out. This is the big Stefanski year in my mind. He’s been handed a lot to deal with in a short amount of time, so at the very least we’ll have a solid idea of what we got in a head coach by season’s end.
I like the guy and l’m rooting for him, obviously. If he succeeds we succeed. This might be a make or break year for him and l think he knows that.
This might be a make or break year for him and l think he knows that.
Him, Berry and a whole host of 'em. It's Triggah Fingah Jimmah. Though they are off to a good start to the year with the draft they had. The only pick that was questioned was that the Gabriel pick could've happened later, but ya don't know that. It's the QB that they wanted to come out of the draft with, so...
I don't think any organizational Big Wigs think they have to make the playoffs in order for the HC & GM to keep their jobs, especially with the current QB situation. But Triggah Fingah hasn't fired anyone in a while. He could be in withdrawal.
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