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  • I'll stay out of the sociopath part, but no doubt this is a topic that has become worn out and old.

    I mean, what's the point?  No matter if the decision was right, wrong, or somewhere in between, it is what it is and all the talk in the world isn't going to change anything.  It's time to move on.

    At this point I see two pretty good looking rookie QB's on roster. That is the only QB discussion I need to contemplate. Are we going to find out by seasons end if at least one of them shows out to be good enough to prevent us from having to use one of both of next year's first rounders in search of another QB?

    @ballpeen said:

    Are we going to find out by seasons end if at least one of them shows out to be good enough to prevent us from having to use one of both of next year's first rounders in search of another QB?

    Right!  That's the $64K question.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'm struggling to picture this being said by a grown (allegedly hetero) man. 

    Sometimes I just wish you weren't so fuckin weird bud.  

    lol, most of the time I wish you weren't such an arrogant fake asswhole ! You didn't have to enter or read this thread that I started. Grow up yourself. I'm guessing you "played football" at a woke college....

    @calfoxwc said:

    lol, most of the time I wish you weren't such an arrogant fake asswhole ! You didn't have to enter or read this thread that I started. Grow up yourself. I'm guessing you "played football" at a woke college....

    Look who woke up.?

  • Hmmm, since everyone here is blaming the JFF college success to having Mike Evans, then how does that translate for the Baker Man?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'm struggling to picture this being said by a grown (allegedly hetero) man. 

    Sometimes I just wish you weren't so fuckin weird bud.  

    lol, most of the time I wish you weren't such an arrogant fake asswhole ! You didn't have to enter or read this thread that I started. Grow up yourself. I'm guessing you "played football" at a woke college....

    @calfoxwc said:

    lol, most of the time I wish you weren't such an arrogant fake asswhole ! You didn't have to enter or read this thread that I started. 

     I gave you the benefit of the doubt and thought you might have said something worth reading. 

    @calfoxwc said:

    I'm guessing you "played football" at a woke college....

    Zero idea what any of this means. 

     I "played football"....   *blink* 

     No idea what a "woke college" would have been or looked like circa 2007-2008. 

  • Hmmm, since everyone here is blaming the JFF college success to having Mike Evans, then how does that translate for the Baker Man?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Hmmm, since everyone here is blaming the JFF college success to having Mike Evans, then how does that translate for the Baker Man?

     The difference in the Tampa offense and Baker sans Mike Evans is pretty noticeable.  Both on film and stats. 

     The key is being subjective about it.  Johnny and the A&M offense leaned on Mike Evans as a singular talent and philosophy.   

     The Bucs do more of the same, just at a higher level.  

     When you lose your best weapon, your offense always suffers for it.  The difference lies in is your QB capable of exploiting other potential mismatches to their maximum effect in that absence. 

     I've always cited Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as great examples of a QBs able to do so. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Hmmm, since everyone here is blaming the JFF college success to having Mike Evans, then how does that translate for the Baker Man?

     The difference in the Tampa offense and Baker sans Mike Evans is pretty noticeable.  Both on film and stats. 

     The key is being subjective about it.  Johnny and the A&M offense leaned on Mike Evans as a singular talent and philosophy.   

     The Bucs do more of the same, just at a higher level.  

     When you lose your best weapon, your offense always suffers for it.  The difference lies in is your QB capable of exploiting other potential mismatches to their maximum effect in that absence. 

     I've always cited Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as great examples of a QBs able to do so. 

    @tiamat63 said:

     The difference in the Tampa offense and Baker sans Mike Evans is pretty noticeable.  Both on film and stats. 

     The key is being subjective about it.  Johnny and the A&M offense leaned on Mike Evans as a singular talent and philosophy.   

     The Bucs do more of the same, just at a higher level.  

     When you lose your best weapon, your offense always suffers for it.  The difference lies in is your QB capable of exploiting other potential mismatches to their maximum effect in that absence. 

     I've always cited Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as great examples of a QBs able to do so. 

    Tractor vs. Trailer at the QB position 

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I'm struggling to picture this being said by a grown (allegedly hetero) man. 

    Sometimes I just wish you weren't so fuckin weird bud.  

    lol, most of the time I wish you weren't such an arrogant fake asswhole ! You didn't have to enter or read this thread that I started. Grow up yourself. I'm guessing you "played football" at a woke college....

    @calfoxwc said:

    lol, most of the time I wish you weren't such an arrogant fake asswhole ! You didn't have to enter or read this thread that I started. Grow up yourself. I'm guessing you "played football" at a woke college....

    Jesus, your inferiority complexes have inferiority complexes.

    We all get it cal, you were too much of a chicken shit to play football, which is why you bore us on the regular about some mythical knee injury that kept you from playing high school football but somehow didn't keep you from enlisting into the Air Force right after you somehow graduated. 

    You didn't go to college because you are sporting one too many chromosomes and have waaaaay too few IQ points. 

    Thus why you are a 70 something old "man" who writes things like "tiamsies pansies" like some weird effeminate Gollum. 

  • @tiamat63 said:

     The difference in the Tampa offense and Baker sans Mike Evans is pretty noticeable.  Both on film and stats. 

     The key is being subjective about it.  Johnny and the A&M offense leaned on Mike Evans as a singular talent and philosophy.   

     The Bucs do more of the same, just at a higher level.  

     When you lose your best weapon, your offense always suffers for it.  The difference lies in is your QB capable of exploiting other potential mismatches to their maximum effect in that absence. 

     I've always cited Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as great examples of a QBs able to do so. 

    Tractor vs. Trailer at the QB position 

    @reality said:

    Tractor vs. Trailer at the QB position 

     Baker vs Johnny? Absolutely. 

     Baker vs the big 3 names I mentioned?  I wouldn't go that far. 

     Not a bad idea in terms of parallel.  But to piggy-back off of your inspiration, Tractor vs Tractor that isn't as capable as hauling the heavier pulls. 

     There just aren't a ton of QBs you can hand a questionable personnel situation to and they still find ways to produce.    Case in point, go look at that 2011 Colts team without Peyton. 2010 they won 10 games, should have won 11 and ended up in a playoff pinch against a damn good Jets defense.   Year after? 2 games, with a dog fight to the bottom for thr 3rd game. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Hmmm, since everyone here is blaming the JFF college success to having Mike Evans, then how does that translate for the Baker Man?

     The difference in the Tampa offense and Baker sans Mike Evans is pretty noticeable.  Both on film and stats. 

     The key is being subjective about it.  Johnny and the A&M offense leaned on Mike Evans as a singular talent and philosophy.   

     The Bucs do more of the same, just at a higher level.  

     When you lose your best weapon, your offense always suffers for it.  The difference lies in is your QB capable of exploiting other potential mismatches to their maximum effect in that absence. 

     I've always cited Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as great examples of a QBs able to do so. 

    @tiamat63 said:

     The difference in the Tampa offense and Baker sans Mike Evans is pretty noticeable.  Both on film and stats. 

     The key is being subjective about it.  Johnny and the A&M offense leaned on Mike Evans as a singular talent and philosophy.   

     The Bucs do more of the same, just at a higher level.  

     When you lose your best weapon, your offense always suffers for it.  The difference lies in is your QB capable of exploiting other potential mismatches to their maximum effect in that absence. 

     I've always cited Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as great examples of a QBs able to do so. 

    Eggs-actly!  To your point, the Bucs lost all 3 games Mike Evans missed in 2024.  

  • @tiamat63 said:

     The difference in the Tampa offense and Baker sans Mike Evans is pretty noticeable.  Both on film and stats. 

     The key is being subjective about it.  Johnny and the A&M offense leaned on Mike Evans as a singular talent and philosophy.   

     The Bucs do more of the same, just at a higher level.  

     When you lose your best weapon, your offense always suffers for it.  The difference lies in is your QB capable of exploiting other potential mismatches to their maximum effect in that absence. 

     I've always cited Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady as great examples of a QBs able to do so. 

    Eggs-actly!  To your point, the Bucs lost all 3 games Mike Evans missed in 2024.  

    @flugel said:

    Eggs-actly!  To your point, the Bucs lost all 3 games Mike Evans missed in 2024.  

    Which of course goes right back to the point I made. Baker is not an elite QB when his bailout specialist is on the sidelines. But at least he does not appear to be the fat Baker we got the year after he had a decent season here.

  • @flugel said:

    Eggs-actly!  To your point, the Bucs lost all 3 games Mike Evans missed in 2024.  

    Which of course goes right back to the point I made. Baker is not an elite QB when his bailout specialist is on the sidelines. But at least he does not appear to be the fat Baker we got the year after he had a decent season here.

    @texasag1969 said:

    Which of course goes right back to the point I made. Baker is not an elite QB when his bailout specialist is on the sidelines. But at least he does not appear to be the fat Baker we got the year after he had a decent season here.

    I've brought it up quite a few times since he inherited not 1 but 2 very productive WRs (Godwin & Evans) in Tampa.  Those were 2 big reasons Tom Brady wanted him some TB Bucs aside from NE's cap situation at the time.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Which of course goes right back to the point I made. Baker is not an elite QB when his bailout specialist is on the sidelines. But at least he does not appear to be the fat Baker we got the year after he had a decent season here.

    I've brought it up quite a few times since he inherited not 1 but 2 very productive WRs (Godwin & Evans) in Tampa.  Those were 2 big reasons Tom Brady wanted him some TB Bucs aside from NE's cap situation at the time.  

    @flugel said:

    I've brought it up quite a few times since he inherited not 1 but 2 very productive WRs (Godwin & Evans) in Tampa.  Those were 2 big reasons Tom Brady wanted him some TB Bucs aside from NE's cap situation at the time.  

    All that said I think whoever gets the start for us will have a huge luxury of JJ, Njoku and Fannin, Jr and two very excellent rookie RBs. If the OL just does 20% better than last year's injury prone group, then our D gets the rest they need to win games. I know I'm ahead of the curve here, but I can see us with a winning regular season this year.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    lol, most of the time I wish you weren't such an arrogant fake asswhole ! You didn't have to enter or read this thread that I started. Grow up yourself. I'm guessing you "played football" at a woke college....

    Look who woke up.?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Look who woke up.?

    He used to be a really nice guy that had a Richie Cunningham vibe to him before politics made him so angry and hateful.  I used to love his football posts back in the day. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Look who woke up.?

    He used to be a really nice guy that had a Richie Cunningham vibe to him before politics made him so angry and hateful.  I used to love his football posts back in the day. 

    @flugel said:

    He used to be a really nice guy that had a Richie Cunningham vibe to him before politics made him so angry and hateful.  I used to love his football posts back in the day. 

    And I always enjoyed his outdoor posts, but don't see too many now after he became entangled in the cult of hate.

  • @flugel said:

    He used to be a really nice guy that had a Richie Cunningham vibe to him before politics made him so angry and hateful.  I used to love his football posts back in the day. 

    And I always enjoyed his outdoor posts, but don't see too many now after he became entangled in the cult of hate.

    @texasag1969 said:

    the cult of hate.

    Is that the poly board?  If so, I don't go there.  It would be to scary to actually hear (read) what's going on in people's minds.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    the cult of hate.

    Is that the poly board?  If so, I don't go there.  It would be to scary to actually hear (read) what's going on in people's minds.

    @orion said:

    Is that the poly board?  If so, I don't go there.  It would be to scary to actually hear (read) what's going on in people's minds.

    Minds? All you read is brainwashing over there. It's the cult residency. They refuse to use their own minds.

  • @orion said:

    Is that the poly board?  If so, I don't go there.  It would be to scary to actually hear (read) what's going on in people's minds.

    Minds? All you read is brainwashing over there. It's the cult residency. They refuse to use their own minds.

    @texasag1969 said:

    All you read is brainwashing over there.