For your Browns Monday morning reading
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Good points on the running game with Kosar as a rook. Assuming guys stay healthy, we may not have two 1000 yard rushers this season but I think we will average similar YPG totals on the ground this year. It's hard to predict how those numbers spread out...Judkins around 1200, Sampson around 600 and Ford for maybe 400?
Add in that it is a different game now. I don't know how many combined rushing yards Kosar and Danielson might have had, but it couldn't be much. I assume it was some positive number. Flacco isn't going to do anything on the ground, but both Pickett and Gabriel can actually run with some authority and Sanders can at least move.
I don't think last seasons O line was indicative of what the line can do in the running game. As for offensive coaches being let go, I am sure we will see some change, but I think the team is high on Rees. I don't think he will go anywhere unless we are historically bad and it can be mostly attributed to him. Some of the other O coaches are up for evaluation and discussion.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Ford with more receiving yards than rushing. I sort of expect it.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Ford with more receiving yards than rushing. I sort of expect it.
So do I. I put Ford with a ? knowing he was probably going to be in more of a pass catching role, but he will end up in the 2nd back role at points during the season even under the best circumstances.
400 yards would be something like 23 yards a game on average. If he gets much more he will have to breaks off several long runs on his limited chances or he will have to play a lot more as the 2nd back than we hope.
Ford is pretty good once he is in some space. His problem is he gets gummed up getting through the line untouched. Putting him as a 3rd down back should get him in to better positions to show his stuff.
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Probably Sampson as well.
I'd say maybe on that. While Judkins will get the majority of carries between the two, I don't see him given the rock 300 times. Sampson is still going to get plenty of carries. I see a split somewhere along the lines of 60/40...maybe not even that great.
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Thanks for that. I'll be at several camps this year, excited to share what I find.
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It wouldn't surprise me to see Ford with more receiving yards than rushing. I sort of expect it.
So do I. I put Ford with a ? knowing he was probably going to be in more of a pass catching role, but he will end up in the 2nd back role at points during the season even under the best circumstances.
400 yards would be something like 23 yards a game on average. If he gets much more he will have to breaks off several long runs on his limited chances or he will have to play a lot more as the 2nd back than we hope.
Ford is pretty good once he is in some space. His problem is he gets gummed up getting through the line untouched. Putting him as a 3rd down back should get him in to better positions to show his stuff.
So do I. I put Ford with a ? knowing he was probably going to be in more of a pass catching role, but he will end up in the 2nd back role at points during the season even under the best circumstances.
400 yards would be something like 23 yards a game on average. If he gets much more he will have to breaks off several long runs on his limited chances or he will have to play a lot more as the 2nd back than we hope.
Ford is pretty good once he is in some space. His problem is he gets gummed up getting through the line untouched. Putting him as a 3rd down back should get him in to better positions to show his stuff.
I look at it more as his contributions in pass pro and the screen game. He'll absolutely be pushed by every RB on this roster in terms of being a ball carrier. I'm including that kid from Appy State too in my assessment.
The downside is that he isn't elite in short space to take progression passes and break ankles for first downs. So his role is limited to pass pro, check down (maybe get yac) and then the screen game.
Unless his vision and mind have taken 2 steps forward this off-season, his struggles in manipulating blocks, anticipating lateral displacement and pacing make him a RB with a limited skill set in a league that isn't RB friendly.
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I'd say maybe on that. While Judkins will get the majority of carries between the two, I don't see him given the rock 300 times. Sampson is still going to get plenty of carries. I see a split somewhere along the lines of 60/40...maybe not even that great.
They view Sampson as the pass-catching RB ( now). Of course that could change.
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I'd say maybe on that. While Judkins will get the majority of carries between the two, I don't see him given the rock 300 times. Sampson is still going to get plenty of carries. I see a split somewhere along the lines of 60/40...maybe not even that great.
They view Sampson as the pass-catching RB ( now). Of course that could change.
They view Sampson as the pass-catching RB ( now). Of course that could change.
Maybe. I don't know how they view him. I suppose we will find out once camp opens and we start playing preseason games and combined practices.
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Bob, the link isn't working.
Ok, sorry. Here's a clip & paste from a website called Roto Baller
1 day ago
Cleveland Browns rookie fourth-round running back Dylan Sampson received work "as a running back and a receiver" during minicamp, according to RBs coach Duce Staley. Staley went on to add that Sampson "is able to go play in the slot and also he's able to go and play on third down and maybe sprinkle in a little second down." The Cleveland Plain Dealer's Dan Labbe thinks that heading into training camp, rookies Quinshon Judkins and Sampson figure to be the top two backs, with Jerome Ford serving as the primary third-down back. The 20-year-old Sampson rushed for 1,491 yards and 22 touchdowns (5.8 yards per carry) in 2024 at Tennessee, but he wasn't all that involved as a pass-catcher. He's a speedy back that could be worth a dart throw in deep PPR formats, but most likely he'll be an inconsistent fantasy performer unless Judkins misses time with an injury.--Keith
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Bob, the link isn't working.
Ok, sorry. Here's a clip & paste from a website called Roto Baller
1 day ago
Cleveland Browns rookie fourth-round running back Dylan Sampson received work "as a running back and a receiver" during minicamp, according to RBs coach Duce Staley. Staley went on to add that Sampson "is able to go play in the slot and also he's able to go and play on third down and maybe sprinkle in a little second down." The Cleveland Plain Dealer's Dan Labbe thinks that heading into training camp, rookies Quinshon Judkins and Sampson figure to be the top two backs, with Jerome Ford serving as the primary third-down back. The 20-year-old Sampson rushed for 1,491 yards and 22 touchdowns (5.8 yards per carry) in 2024 at Tennessee, but he wasn't all that involved as a pass-catcher. He's a speedy back that could be worth a dart throw in deep PPR formats, but most likely he'll be an inconsistent fantasy performer unless Judkins misses time with an injury.--Keith
Ok, sorry. Here's a clip & paste from a website called Roto Baller
1 day ago
Cleveland Browns rookie fourth-round running back Dylan Sampson received work "as a running back and a receiver" during minicamp, according to RBs coach Duce Staley. Staley went on to add that Sampson "is able to go play in the slot and also he's able to go and play on third down and maybe sprinkle in a little second down." The Cleveland Plain Dealer's Dan Labbe thinks that heading into training camp, rookies Quinshon Judkins and Sampson figure to be the top two backs, with Jerome Ford serving as the primary third-down back. The 20-year-old Sampson rushed for 1,491 yards and 22 touchdowns (5.8 yards per carry) in 2024 at Tennessee, but he wasn't all that involved as a pass-catcher. He's a speedy back that could be worth a dart throw in deep PPR formats, but most likely he'll be an inconsistent fantasy performer unless Judkins misses time with an injury.--Keith
Good article Bob - thanks! It'll be a nice opportunity for him to expand his value to the team. All the way back to Calvin Hill and way further on before that - RBs have frequently been helpful here catching the ball on 3rd down.
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Ok, sorry. Here's a clip & paste from a website called Roto Baller
1 day ago
Cleveland Browns rookie fourth-round running back Dylan Sampson received work "as a running back and a receiver" during minicamp, according to RBs coach Duce Staley. Staley went on to add that Sampson "is able to go play in the slot and also he's able to go and play on third down and maybe sprinkle in a little second down." The Cleveland Plain Dealer's Dan Labbe thinks that heading into training camp, rookies Quinshon Judkins and Sampson figure to be the top two backs, with Jerome Ford serving as the primary third-down back. The 20-year-old Sampson rushed for 1,491 yards and 22 touchdowns (5.8 yards per carry) in 2024 at Tennessee, but he wasn't all that involved as a pass-catcher. He's a speedy back that could be worth a dart throw in deep PPR formats, but most likely he'll be an inconsistent fantasy performer unless Judkins misses time with an injury.--Keith
Good article Bob - thanks! It'll be a nice opportunity for him to expand his value to the team. All the way back to Calvin Hill and way further on before that - RBs have frequently been helpful here catching the ball on 3rd down.
Good article Bob - thanks! It'll be a nice opportunity for him to expand his value to the team. All the way back to Calvin Hill and way further on before that - RBs have frequently been helpful here catching the ball on 3rd down.
No problem. Funny thing is I immediately thought of Calvin Hill & Greg Pruitt while reading it.
We will miss Chubb of course, but maybe these young backs can make plays. Throw in Njoku & Fannin, hey, we might have an offense ( O Line is the key).
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The parallels between Sampson and Jaylen Warren I felt would have been obvious to most fans.
The Steelers let Najee' go for a reason.
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Good article Bob - thanks! It'll be a nice opportunity for him to expand his value to the team. All the way back to Calvin Hill and way further on before that - RBs have frequently been helpful here catching the ball on 3rd down.
No problem. Funny thing is I immediately thought of Calvin Hill & Greg Pruitt while reading it.
We will miss Chubb of course, but maybe these young backs can make plays. Throw in Njoku & Fannin, hey, we might have an offense ( O Line is the key).
No problem. Funny thing is I immediately thought of Calvin Hill & Greg Pruitt while reading it.
We will miss Chubb of course, but maybe these young backs can make plays. Throw in Njoku & Fannin, hey, we might have an offense ( O Line is the key).
Believe it or not, my avatar is Greg Pruitt. Thought I'd go get these stats as we talk about the RB position today and the multiple roles they can provide. YES, we're in a passing era today but RBs have always been used in the slot; or as a wingback; or as a flanker; or in pass pro. IMO, they're REALLY underpaid. I'm gonna post some stats from a Hall of Fame player that was very well liked and respected by the 2 fanbases he played in front of. If it wasn't for the greatness of Jim Brown - there's no telling what Bobby Mitchell would have been able to do with more carries. Then again, what he did catching the ball has him in the Hall of Fame so this role isn't as new or exclusive to the here and now as a lot of columnists out there want us to think it is.
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Mitchell was the perfect complement to Brown.
Never quite understood why the Browns wanted to get rid of him for Ernie Davis, who I would think was more like Brown.
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Mitchell was the perfect complement to Brown.
Never quite understood why the Browns wanted to get rid of him for Ernie Davis, who I would think was more like Brown.
Mitchell was the perfect complement to Brown.
Never quite understood why the Browns wanted to get rid of him for Ernie Davis, who I would think was more like Brown.
He sure was! He must have been a lot of fun to watch back in the day.
Davis caught an 87 yard TD pass the year Syracuse won the Natty and he also rushed for a TD that day. 2 years later, he won the Heisman Trophy. There's no telling how good he could have been if he didn't get diagnosed with Leukemia. In the movie "The Express" SU Head Coach "Schwartzwalder" played by Dennis Quaid - somehow pulled off getting Jim Brown to play a big role in recruiting Ernie Davis despite Brown's initial reluctance to do so. I don't know who reeled in who to make that happen - but it sure looked like Brown ended up happy he helped get Davis there.
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Regarding Ford...I see him as a backup. He'll go in to spell Judkins. He'll also backup Sampson as the pass catching back. He'll take on either one's role if they get dinged or injured.
I'm also interested in seeing the big kid, Marshall.
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