Training Camp 2025
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Yeah, and this past year I had to buy her a new car too.?
What did you get?
What did you get?
...I know you weren't asking me...but...
Last month I sold my Mercedes to CarMax. Then bought a new Mazda CX-5. Premium Plus trim so I could have the Heads Up Display, Adaptive Headlight and heated rear seats. But I've spent most of today getting a couple of coats of Zaino Show Car Polish on the Vette and it's wheels.
I'm on (another) break. I've still gotta go around it with a spray & wipe of Z6 and then a spray & wipe of Grand Finale.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
What did you get?
...I know you weren't asking me...but...
Last month I sold my Mercedes to CarMax. Then bought a new Mazda CX-5. Premium Plus trim so I could have the Heads Up Display, Adaptive Headlight and heated rear seats. But I've spent most of today getting a couple of coats of Zaino Show Car Polish on the Vette and it's wheels.
I'm on (another) break. I've still gotta go around it with a spray & wipe of Z6 and then a spray & wipe of Grand Finale.
...I know you weren't asking me...but...
Last month I sold my Mercedes to CarMax. Then bought a new Mazda CX-5. Premium Plus trim so I could have the Heads Up Display, Adaptive Headlight and heated rear seats. But I've spent most of today getting a couple of coats of Zaino Show Car Polish on the Vette and it's wheels.
I'm on (another) break. I've still gotta go around it with a spray & wipe of Z6 and then a spray & wipe of Grand Finale.
My car is six years old now, has 82k miles but I'm not even thinking about another car anytime soon. I had my last car for 11 years, aiming to do the same with the current.
What year is your Vette?
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What did you get?
...I know you weren't asking me...but...
Last month I sold my Mercedes to CarMax. Then bought a new Mazda CX-5. Premium Plus trim so I could have the Heads Up Display, Adaptive Headlight and heated rear seats. But I've spent most of today getting a couple of coats of Zaino Show Car Polish on the Vette and it's wheels.
I'm on (another) break. I've still gotta go around it with a spray & wipe of Z6 and then a spray & wipe of Grand Finale.
...I know you weren't asking me...but...
Last month I sold my Mercedes to CarMax. Then bought a new Mazda CX-5. Premium Plus trim so I could have the Heads Up Display, Adaptive Headlight and heated rear seats. But I've spent most of today getting a couple of coats of Zaino Show Car Polish on the Vette and it's wheels.
I'm on (another) break. I've still gotta go around it with a spray & wipe of Z6 and then a spray & wipe of Grand Finale.
Only knock on those Mazdas are the high failure rate on the active grille shutters. Both the sensor and the elevator itself.
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Yeah, and this past year I had to buy her a new car too.?
What did you get?
What did you get?
Subaru Crosstrek to replace her crashed Subaru Outback. I swear she did it on purpose.?
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What did you get?
Subaru Crosstrek to replace her crashed Subaru Outback. I swear she did it on purpose.?
Subaru Crosstrek
That's what my wife has. (Zaino'd that last weekend)
My car is six years old now, has 82k miles but I'm not even thinking about another car anytime soon. I had my last car for 11 years, aiming to do the same with the current. I was initially not thinking new, but less than 10k miles. What I found was that the prices for those wasn't all that far off from new. - Used cars went way up during the pandemic and have not come back down.
What year is your Vette?
The Vette is a 2000. It's the only other car ever bought new, for me. Just finished the detailing. It's shinin' like the 4th of July!
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What did you get?
Subaru Crosstrek to replace her crashed Subaru Outback. I swear she did it on purpose.?
Subaru Crosstrek to replace her crashed Subaru Outback. I swear she did it on purpose.?
Oh that’s right, that’s what I have too
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Getting kicked in the balls every Sunday is an expensive hobby.
Getting kicked in the balls every Sunday is an expensive hobby.
That 3-14 record came at me like a bunch of Roadhouse Bouncers in steel toe shitkickers.
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Tickets secured for 7/28, eyeing following up with 8/4 to gauge progress.
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Just wait until we see the price of the tickets to the Mattress Factory Of Sadness Dome in Brookpark.
I gave up my season tickets, my cousin has them now.
Prices went up $21/ticket ( 42 per game). After a 3-14 season, WTF
I gave up my season tickets, my cousin has them now.
Prices went up $21/ticket ( 42 per game). After a 3-14 season, WTF
I kept mine, but I am 99% sure this will be my last season. When I first got my club seats they cost somewhere around $1700 a seat. Now they are $2500 per seat. My bill was for $5012. That is getting a bit steep now that i am older and have some heath issues that make the 600 mile drive to Cleveland bad news for the lower legs. I only used 5 of them last season. This season looks like less. Add travel costs like hotels for 3-4 nights per game, fuel, food etc. add another $800-$1000 per trip. The cost V. the value/fun ratio just doesn't match up any longer.
I'll still pick up some tickets from one of the sites, maybe a couple of home games but can now mix in an away game, something I have missed for the last 20 years.
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I gave up my season tickets, my cousin has them now.
Prices went up $21/ticket ( 42 per game). After a 3-14 season, WTF
I kept mine, but I am 99% sure this will be my last season. When I first got my club seats they cost somewhere around $1700 a seat. Now they are $2500 per seat. My bill was for $5012. That is getting a bit steep now that i am older and have some heath issues that make the 600 mile drive to Cleveland bad news for the lower legs. I only used 5 of them last season. This season looks like less. Add travel costs like hotels for 3-4 nights per game, fuel, food etc. add another $800-$1000 per trip. The cost V. the value/fun ratio just doesn't match up any longer.
I'll still pick up some tickets from one of the sites, maybe a couple of home games but can now mix in an away game, something I have missed for the last 20 years.
I kept mine, but I am 99% sure this will be my last season. When I first got my club seats they cost somewhere around $1700 a seat. Now they are $2500 per seat. My bill was for $5012. That is getting a bit steep now that i am older and have some heath issues that make the 600 mile drive to Cleveland bad news for the lower legs. I only used 5 of them last season. This season looks like less. Add travel costs like hotels for 3-4 nights per game, fuel, food etc. add another $800-$1000 per trip. The cost V. the value/fun ratio just doesn't match up any longer.
I'll still pick up some tickets from one of the sites, maybe a couple of home games but can now mix in an away game, something I have missed for the last 20 years.
I get it. Similar issues with me, as my health insurance went way up per month. So I need to cut costs somewhere, Browns tickets are the easy choice sadly.
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I’ll be fascinated to see how season ticket sales go when the Browns move into the Mattress Factory Of Sadness Dome in 2029…
Ticket prices are going to be bananas ?
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I’ll be fascinated to see how season ticket sales go when the Browns move into the Mattress Factory Of Sadness Dome in 2029…
Ticket prices are going to be bananas ?
I’ll be fascinated to see how season ticket sales go when the Browns move into the Mattress Factory Of Sadness Dome in 2029…
Ticket prices are going to be bananas ?
And it sucks because fans WANT to be there, they want to pack the house.
The largest reason we watch football is because of our shared connection to Ohio, Cleveland, each other and finally the game of football itself. The game that welcomes and shelters all. When you begin to squeeze that connection too much with a price point; when the ownership(s) fail to recognize the financial situation of the average American, who are the overwhelming majority of their support - then people begin to believe the Browns aren't so much *our* team as they are an incredibly profitable business venture only.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
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I’ll be fascinated to see how season ticket sales go when the Browns move into the Mattress Factory Of Sadness Dome in 2029…
Ticket prices are going to be bananas ?
And it sucks because fans WANT to be there, they want to pack the house.
The largest reason we watch football is because of our shared connection to Ohio, Cleveland, each other and finally the game of football itself. The game that welcomes and shelters all. When you begin to squeeze that connection too much with a price point; when the ownership(s) fail to recognize the financial situation of the average American, who are the overwhelming majority of their support - then people begin to believe the Browns aren't so much *our* team as they are an incredibly profitable business venture only.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
And it sucks because fans WANT to be there, they want to pack the house.
The largest reason we watch football is because of our shared connection to Ohio, Cleveland, each other and finally the game of football itself. The game that welcomes and shelters all. When you begin to squeeze that connection too much with a price point; when the ownership(s) fail to recognize the financial situation of the average American, who are the overwhelming majority of their support - then people begin to believe the Browns aren't so much *our* team as they are an incredibly profitable business venture only.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
And with NIL money now being legal, college teams are forced into a similar, though different, situation in order to stay competitive and keep fans coming to the games. If you don't pay the players enough, they get bought out by higher $$ teams. So now on top of the ticket price you must pay a premium "donation" to get the best seats. I find that getting higher, less premium season tickets are just fine in the new A&M stadium with the investment of wide angle 10X binoculars. Puts me right down inside the in-play of the lines where football is really lost or won. Sometimes you lose what a player did to get so open, but with the big screen instant replay the stadium has all over the place, you get to see that part after the fact. Plus, if it's being recorded, you can watch that later when you get home.
PS-with NFL Sunday Ticket now no longer negotiable, I don't get to see many Browns games anymore. Just too expensive to have season college tickets for 2 (especially adding in travel, meals, parking, etc.) and high $$ Sunday Ticket. Parking also used to be free if you were willing to walk 2 miles each way on hot days. Now it's $20 minimum and another huge donation to get parking closer in which you can't qualify for without that other big donation for high $$ seats. They milk you in so many ways now. If I didn't have kids and grandkids I give tickets to, it wouldn't be worth it. I only go to a couple of the games myself.
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I gave up my season tickets, my cousin has them now.
Prices went up $21/ticket ( 42 per game). After a 3-14 season, WTF
Ouch! Don't feel too bad though Bob. The Sunday Ticket ain't cheap either. At least you can watch all their games on your local TV network in the comforts of your own man cave. Here's my email version of the bill for the Ticket this year - just in case anyone wonders why I don't want to do worse than 3-14 just so we can draft another QB that might not pan out:
Ouch! Don't feel too bad though Bob. The Sunday Ticket ain't cheap either. At least you can watch all their games on your local TV network in the comforts of your own man cave. Here's my email version of the bill for the Ticket this year - just in case anyone wonders why I don't want to do worse than 3-14 just so we can draft another QB that might not pan out:
Question....I dropped Sunday Ticket a long time ago, as I didn't think it was a good fit.
Does it include games on Amazon or Yahoo?
Karlis Missed -
I’ll be fascinated to see how season ticket sales go when the Browns move into the Mattress Factory Of Sadness Dome in 2029…
Ticket prices are going to be bananas ?
And it sucks because fans WANT to be there, they want to pack the house.
The largest reason we watch football is because of our shared connection to Ohio, Cleveland, each other and finally the game of football itself. The game that welcomes and shelters all. When you begin to squeeze that connection too much with a price point; when the ownership(s) fail to recognize the financial situation of the average American, who are the overwhelming majority of their support - then people begin to believe the Browns aren't so much *our* team as they are an incredibly profitable business venture only.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
Well stated.
It doesn't help that the NFL tends to focus their marketing on the perceived "top teams." Several teams get 4,5, even 6 primetime games, and even more at the Sunday late time slot (430pm).
For a league that spreads it's wealth very well, they market poorly IMHO.
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Ouch! Don't feel too bad though Bob. The Sunday Ticket ain't cheap either. At least you can watch all their games on your local TV network in the comforts of your own man cave. Here's my email version of the bill for the Ticket this year - just in case anyone wonders why I don't want to do worse than 3-14 just so we can draft another QB that might not pan out:
Question....I dropped Sunday Ticket a long time ago, as I didn't think it was a good fit.
Does it include games on Amazon or Yahoo?
Question....I dropped Sunday Ticket a long time ago, as I didn't think it was a good fit.
Does it include games on Amazon or Yahoo?
Sunday games only. No Thursday nights, Monday nights, Amazon, etc.
I did the Youtube one year and then dropped it. I did it for my grandboys. But it turned out that they wind up with 'the father' some Sunday's. And then other times they're outside playing with the neighbor's boy...etc. And I'd already come to the conclusion that I wasn't going to spend that kind of money to watch my Browns anymore. I've been buying a package from NFL.com / NFL Network where I can watch the game(s) a couple of hours after the game ends. Can watch them like normal, or the short version with just the plays.
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Streaming Device is the answer.
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I’ll be fascinated to see how season ticket sales go when the Browns move into the Mattress Factory Of Sadness Dome in 2029…
Ticket prices are going to be bananas ?
And it sucks because fans WANT to be there, they want to pack the house.
The largest reason we watch football is because of our shared connection to Ohio, Cleveland, each other and finally the game of football itself. The game that welcomes and shelters all. When you begin to squeeze that connection too much with a price point; when the ownership(s) fail to recognize the financial situation of the average American, who are the overwhelming majority of their support - then people begin to believe the Browns aren't so much *our* team as they are an incredibly profitable business venture only.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
And it sucks because fans WANT to be there, they want to pack the house.
The largest reason we watch football is because of our shared connection to Ohio, Cleveland, each other and finally the game of football itself. The game that welcomes and shelters all. When you begin to squeeze that connection too much with a price point; when the ownership(s) fail to recognize the financial situation of the average American, who are the overwhelming majority of their support - then people begin to believe the Browns aren't so much *our* team as they are an incredibly profitable business venture only.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
I don't disagree but evidently NFL owners feel like they have a great deal more price elasticity with their product, and they probably do. I know the Browns have a waiting list for seats. If you can do that after the last 20 years and have a base of fans already paying higher prices on the after market sites, they can do that. He will sell the seats, at least a great many of them. I don't blame owners. Owners sell their product for as much as they can just like players demand as much as they can.
I'd like it if they were still $30 tickets to a game just like I would like it if rib eye steaks were still $7.99 a lb. and movie tickets were still $3.
Those days are gone.
The problem is NFL teams only play 8.5 games a year and in no way can they match the number of games in a season to spread out costs like the other pro leagues.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
And it sucks because fans WANT to be there, they want to pack the house.
The largest reason we watch football is because of our shared connection to Ohio, Cleveland, each other and finally the game of football itself. The game that welcomes and shelters all. When you begin to squeeze that connection too much with a price point; when the ownership(s) fail to recognize the financial situation of the average American, who are the overwhelming majority of their support - then people begin to believe the Browns aren't so much *our* team as they are an incredibly profitable business venture only.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
I don't disagree but evidently NFL owners feel like they have a great deal more price elasticity with their product, and they probably do. I know the Browns have a waiting list for seats. If you can do that after the last 20 years and have a base of fans already paying higher prices on the after market sites, they can do that. He will sell the seats, at least a great many of them. I don't blame owners. Owners sell their product for as much as they can just like players demand as much as they can.
I'd like it if they were still $30 tickets to a game just like I would like it if rib eye steaks were still $7.99 a lb. and movie tickets were still $3.
Those days are gone.
The problem is NFL teams only play 8.5 games a year and in no way can they match the number of games in a season to spread out costs like the other pro leagues.
I'd like it if they were still $30 tickets
Yesterday, as I was paying for the month of music lessons for my two grandboys I realized that......back 60 years ago when my parents paid for my 1/2 hour lesson it was #3.50. Today it costs 10 times that.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
And it sucks because fans WANT to be there, they want to pack the house.
The largest reason we watch football is because of our shared connection to Ohio, Cleveland, each other and finally the game of football itself. The game that welcomes and shelters all. When you begin to squeeze that connection too much with a price point; when the ownership(s) fail to recognize the financial situation of the average American, who are the overwhelming majority of their support - then people begin to believe the Browns aren't so much *our* team as they are an incredibly profitable business venture only.
NFL ownerships need to realize they're playing a dangerous game milking every dollar from their bases that the delicate connection of fans and community identity --> team can be in question. Sports are something that helps bring us together. We've really gotten away from that.
I don't disagree but evidently NFL owners feel like they have a great deal more price elasticity with their product, and they probably do. I know the Browns have a waiting list for seats. If you can do that after the last 20 years and have a base of fans already paying higher prices on the after market sites, they can do that. He will sell the seats, at least a great many of them. I don't blame owners. Owners sell their product for as much as they can just like players demand as much as they can.
I'd like it if they were still $30 tickets to a game just like I would like it if rib eye steaks were still $7.99 a lb. and movie tickets were still $3.
Those days are gone.
The problem is NFL teams only play 8.5 games a year and in no way can they match the number of games in a season to spread out costs like the other pro leagues.
I don't disagree but evidently NFL owners feel like they have a great deal more price elasticity with their product, and they probably do. I know the Browns have a waiting list for seats. If you can do that after the last 20 years and have a base of fans already paying higher prices on the after market sites, they can do that. He will sell the seats, at least a great many of them. I don't blame owners. Owners sell their product for as much as they can just like players demand as much as they can.
I'd like it if they were still $30 tickets to a game just like I would like it if rib eye steaks were still $7.99 a lb. and movie tickets were still $3.
Those days are gone.
The problem is NFL teams only play 8.5 games a year and in no way can they match the number of games in a season to spread out costs like the other pro leagues.
You're right about the tickets, though there is a category I'm wondering about which might severely inflate that list - resale.
I personnally know four people with season tickets. They resale half of them, the bulk of those resales over face value.
Two other people I know bought medicore season tickets with the sole purpose of marking them up for profit.
Obviously I don't have access to those numbers. But I'm positive my experience isn't unique.
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