Here's Your Gov't Run Grocery Store in KC: FAILING!
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I read the article in the OP earlier this morning, and l had more questions than anything. I’m far removed from Kansas City and l wasn’t aware state run grocery stores was a thing or how this came to be. I found this helpful.
https://showmeinstitute.org/blog/subsidies/sun-freshs-struggles-were-predictableand-predicted/
Apparently it was an attempt to fill a perceived need in an underserved community (aka poor community) in an attempt to spark some urban renewal, basically hoping others would invest in the area around it with a shiny new grocery store.
It stands to reason that if an actual grocery store that does this sort of thing for a living can’t make it work, they won’t be able to make it work either.
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What exactly do I follow or pay a subscription to?
Regardless of what you do or don't follow, you should recognize the biased trash gateway pundit is. But then again, that's kind of the point. These sites exist just to regurgitate ideas you already believe back to you. You may not be a "follower" of gateway pundit but you found it, read it, and shared it for a reason.
Wow your dumber than I feared... What you pay for is your business Goober.. I don't give a shit.. Keep deflecting , Moron...
Wow your dumber than I feared... What you pay for is your business Goober.. I don't give a shit.. Keep deflecting , Moron...
You led with "unlink you" in your last post.
But we've been down this path before. You seem to immediately forget what you just posted. Or you have lost all reading comprehension ability. Regardless, you seem to get lost like this constantly.
I sincerely mean this but I think you're one of the dumbest individuals I've even "met".
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
What exactly do I follow or pay a subscription to?
Regardless of what you do or don't follow, you should recognize the biased trash gateway pundit is. But then again, that's kind of the point. These sites exist just to regurgitate ideas you already believe back to you. You may not be a "follower" of gateway pundit but you found it, read it, and shared it for a reason.
In other words, it doesn't doesn't match woodys thinking and he has no way to refute anything.
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I read the article in the OP earlier this morning, and l had more questions than anything. I’m far removed from Kansas City and l wasn’t aware state run grocery stores was a thing or how this came to be. I found this helpful.
https://showmeinstitute.org/blog/subsidies/sun-freshs-struggles-were-predictableand-predicted/
Apparently it was an attempt to fill a perceived need in an underserved community (aka poor community) in an attempt to spark some urban renewal, basically hoping others would invest in the area around it with a shiny new grocery store.
It stands to reason that if an actual grocery store that does this sort of thing for a living can’t make it work, they won’t be able to make it work either.
I read the article in the OP earlier this morning, and l had more questions than anything. I’m far removed from Kansas City and l wasn’t aware state run grocery stores was a thing or how this came to be. I found this helpful.
https://showmeinstitute.org/blog/subsidies/sun-freshs-struggles-were-predictableand-predicted/
Apparently it was an attempt to fill a perceived need in an underserved community (aka poor community) in an attempt to spark some urban renewal, basically hoping others would invest in the area around it with a shiny new grocery store.
It stands to reason that if an actual grocery store that does this sort of thing for a living can’t make it work, they won’t be able to make it work either.
The argument then becomes it should be done more as a public good, to alleviate a food desert, than it should be to "make a profit". In my first post, that our MAGA reactionaries didn't read, I mentioned how capitalism isn't going to solve issues like this. It's our government's job to step up in those instances
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Wow your dumber than I feared... What you pay for is your business Goober.. I don't give a shit.. Keep deflecting , Moron...
You led with "unlink you" in your last post.
But we've been down this path before. You seem to immediately forget what you just posted. Or you have lost all reading comprehension ability. Regardless, you seem to get lost like this constantly.
I sincerely mean this but I think you're one of the dumbest individuals I've even "met".
You led with "unlink you" in your last post.
But we've been down this path before. You seem to immediately forget what you just posted. Or you have lost all reading comprehension ability. Regardless, you seem to get lost like this constantly.
I sincerely mean this but I think you're one of the dumbest individuals I've even "met".
Keep showing us your stupidity... God you are lost in the sauce...
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woodpecker has always bashed sources, every source, that doesn't fit his pecking and farting.
and he never has sources for his asinine allegations. Woodpecker just pecks out of not being able to intelligently discuss any issue.
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woodpecker has always bashed sources, every source, that doesn't fit his pecking and farting.
and he never has sources for his asinine allegations. Woodpecker just pecks out of not being able to intelligently discuss any issue.
woodpecker has always bashed sources, every source, that doesn't fit his pecking and farting.
and he never has sources for his asinine allegations. Woodpecker just pecks out of not being able to intelligently discuss any issue.
All the while he insinuates people are "dumb".. Yet he has no self awareness of his own stupidity.. I'm still waiting for him to find one instance where Socialism has worked and he can't because Socialism fails everywhere it has been tried.... While Capitalism isn't perfect.. (No one system is).. It is still far and away the best platform to run a general society/Govt. on.... Socialism WILL NEVER WORK because people love to own what they work hard for... Taxing rich white billionaires isn't the answer either.. I'm all for giving them a break since they provide the Jobs, The Pay checks and the resources for us common humans to live our daily lives... And of course the health insurances paid for by them!.. His arrogance will be his own demise...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
I read the article in the OP earlier this morning, and l had more questions than anything. I’m far removed from Kansas City and l wasn’t aware state run grocery stores was a thing or how this came to be. I found this helpful.
https://showmeinstitute.org/blog/subsidies/sun-freshs-struggles-were-predictableand-predicted/
Apparently it was an attempt to fill a perceived need in an underserved community (aka poor community) in an attempt to spark some urban renewal, basically hoping others would invest in the area around it with a shiny new grocery store.
It stands to reason that if an actual grocery store that does this sort of thing for a living can’t make it work, they won’t be able to make it work either.
The argument then becomes it should be done more as a public good, to alleviate a food desert, than it should be to "make a profit". In my first post, that our MAGA reactionaries didn't read, I mentioned how capitalism isn't going to solve issues like this. It's our government's job to step up in those instances
The argument then becomes it should be done more as a public good, to alleviate a food desert, than it should be to "make a profit". In my first post, that our MAGA reactionaries didn't read, I mentioned how capitalism isn't going to solve issues like this. It's our government's job to step up in those instances
Maybe? Access to good healthy food is a concern l have too, especially for underserved communities, but there are different ways to get to that goal. It’s partially why l liked RFK Jr. last year. He’s definitely a quirky guy but he seemed committed to cleaning up the food supply and making it accessible.
The link l shared indicated there’s already a couple other grocery stores in the community. I don’t know the area so l don’t know how close they actually are, but supply and demand is always going to be an important factor.
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woodpecker has always bashed sources, every source, that doesn't fit his pecking and farting.
and he never has sources for his asinine allegations. Woodpecker just pecks out of not being able to intelligently discuss any issue.
All the while he insinuates people are "dumb".. Yet he has no self awareness of his own stupidity.. I'm still waiting for him to find one instance where Socialism has worked and he can't because Socialism fails everywhere it has been tried.... While Capitalism isn't perfect.. (No one system is).. It is still far and away the best platform to run a general society/Govt. on.... Socialism WILL NEVER WORK because people love to own what they work hard for... Taxing rich white billionaires isn't the answer either.. I'm all for giving them a break since they provide the Jobs, The Pay checks and the resources for us common humans to live our daily lives... And of course the health insurances paid for by them!.. His arrogance will be his own demise...
Taxing rich white billionaires isn't the answer either.. I'm all for giving them a break since they provide the Jobs, The Pay checks and the resources for us common humans to live our daily lives... And of course the health insurances paid for by them!..
I didn't realize how cucked you were, damn.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
The argument then becomes it should be done more as a public good, to alleviate a food desert, than it should be to "make a profit". In my first post, that our MAGA reactionaries didn't read, I mentioned how capitalism isn't going to solve issues like this. It's our government's job to step up in those instances
Maybe? Access to good healthy food is a concern l have too, especially for underserved communities, but there are different ways to get to that goal. It’s partially why l liked RFK Jr. last year. He’s definitely a quirky guy but he seemed committed to cleaning up the food supply and making it accessible.
The link l shared indicated there’s already a couple other grocery stores in the community. I don’t know the area so l don’t know how close they actually are, but supply and demand is always going to be an important factor.
Maybe? Access to good healthy food is a concern l have too, especially for underserved communities, but there are different ways to get to that goal. It’s partially why l liked RFK Jr. last year. He’s definitely a quirky guy but he seemed committed to cleaning up the food supply and making it accessible.
The link l shared indicated there’s already a couple other grocery stores in the community. I don’t know the area so l don’t know how close they actually are, but supply and demand is always going to be an important factor.
Cleaning up the food supply and making it accessible are two very different things.
Yes, with pure capitalism and "the market decides" we're just gonna follow supply and demand. That doesn't always serve all of the people adequately. There isn't adequate demand for many hospitals/the services offered in rural areas, but our government subsidizes them. Same thing with getting mail to rural areas. Not cost effective but it's a function of the government.
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woodpecker has always bashed sources, every source, that doesn't fit his pecking and farting.
and he never has sources for his asinine allegations. Woodpecker just pecks out of not being able to intelligently discuss any issue.
woodpecker has always bashed sources, every source, that doesn't fit his pecking and farting.
and he never has sources for his asinine allegations. Woodpecker just pecks out of not being able to intelligently discuss any issue.
I've provided NASA as a source before and you've had a problem with it
All while 70% of your posts are just Facebook links. The other 30% red state. Your Internet media literacy is just as bad as his.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Taxing rich white billionaires isn't the answer either.. I'm all for giving them a break since they provide the Jobs, The Pay checks and the resources for us common humans to live our daily lives... And of course the health insurances paid for by them!..
I didn't realize how cucked you were, damn.
I didn't realize how cucked you were, damn.
Wow... Another stupid asshole comment from you... Somehow I'm not surprised... You are such a dip shit...
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woodpecker has always bashed sources, every source, that doesn't fit his pecking and farting.
and he never has sources for his asinine allegations. Woodpecker just pecks out of not being able to intelligently discuss any issue.
I've provided NASA as a source before and you've had a problem with it
All while 70% of your posts are just Facebook links. The other 30% red state. Your Internet media literacy is just as bad as his.
I've provided NASA as a source before and you've had a problem with it
All while 70% of your posts are just Facebook links. The other 30% red state. Your Internet media literacy is just as bad as his.
NASA.. LOL,,,, Follow the money you stupid retard..
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No unlike you... I don't follow anything or anyone.. I don't do "Subscriptions" to anything because my $$'s are better spent elsewhere.. I couldn't care less about the "Gateway Pundit" or any other outlet for that matter..
What exactly do I follow or pay a subscription to?
Regardless of what you do or don't follow, you should recognize the biased trash gateway pundit is. But then again, that's kind of the point. These sites exist just to regurgitate ideas you already believe back to you. You may not be a "follower" of gateway pundit but you found it, read it, and shared it for a reason.
What exactly do I follow or pay a subscription to?
Regardless of what you do or don't follow, you should recognize the biased trash gateway pundit is. But then again, that's kind of the point. These sites exist just to regurgitate ideas you already believe back to you. You may not be a "follower" of gateway pundit but you found it, read it, and shared it for a reason.
You tell me. Something plants leftist ideas in your head.
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Again, I'd defer to local reporting, or at least much less biased reporting. Quick reading shows millions for the shopping center, and a delay in getting funding to the grocery store. Probably also some incompetence involved, like in most everything. One example in one spot isn't proof of something not working. Though I know conservatives love just running with singular anecdotes.
Food deserts are a real thing. Capitalism isn't perfect. Far from it. Leaving it up to capitalism you get low income neighborhoods without access to fresh foods/grocery stores and just fast food/convenience stores. I think government run or government subsidized grocery stores in these food desert areas makes sense.
Again, I'd defer to local reporting, or at least much less biased reporting. Quick reading shows millions for the shopping center, and a delay in getting funding to the grocery store. Probably also some incompetence involved, like in most everything. One example in one spot isn't proof of something not working. Though I know conservatives love just running with singular anecdotes.
Food deserts are a real thing. Capitalism isn't perfect. Far from it. Leaving it up to capitalism you get low income neighborhoods without access to fresh foods/grocery stores and just fast food/convenience stores. I think government run or government subsidized grocery stores in these food desert areas makes sense.
Here’s some local reporting for you. Not a whole lot of info other than the crime problem. Inner city, what a shocker.
That sucked. Here’s one a little better, from the Washington Post tho.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/07/18/city-owned-grocery-stores-crime-funding/
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I read the article in the OP earlier this morning, and l had more questions than anything. I’m far removed from Kansas City and l wasn’t aware state run grocery stores was a thing or how this came to be. I found this helpful.
https://showmeinstitute.org/blog/subsidies/sun-freshs-struggles-were-predictableand-predicted/
Apparently it was an attempt to fill a perceived need in an underserved community (aka poor community) in an attempt to spark some urban renewal, basically hoping others would invest in the area around it with a shiny new grocery store.
It stands to reason that if an actual grocery store that does this sort of thing for a living can’t make it work, they won’t be able to make it work either.
The argument then becomes it should be done more as a public good, to alleviate a food desert, than it should be to "make a profit". In my first post, that our MAGA reactionaries didn't read, I mentioned how capitalism isn't going to solve issues like this. It's our government's job to step up in those instances
The argument then becomes it should be done more as a public good, to alleviate a food desert, than it should be to "make a profit". In my first post, that our MAGA reactionaries didn't read, I mentioned how capitalism isn't going to solve issues like this. It's our government's job to step up in those instances
The government’s job at what level?
What is more concerning is what you didn’t read.
The real tragedy is that Kansas City could have directed those resources toward improving public safety, supporting neighborhood-scale entrepreneurship, or partnering with existing grocery providers willing to operate without public subsidy. All of those approaches would have been more fiscally responsible and, most likely, more sustainable than what the city did.
As policymakers consider next steps, they would do well to revisit the early warnings and lessons from Sun Fresh. The problem was never just about food access. It was about how we define, diagnose, and address the challenges facing our neighborhoods.
This was a foreseeable failure. Hopefully, our policymakers learn from it.
You whined about capitalism not being perfect. What is? In the end being not perfect is still better than you not having a clue on how to perfect it.
Socialism fails because it has never been applied properly. Yeah that must be it. Then tell us how it could be applied properly.
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Do you really regularly frequent the gateway pundit?
Appreciate the fact that it gave you the opportunity to share your socialist non ideas and complain about capitalism.
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Again, I'd defer to local reporting, or at least much less biased reporting. Quick reading shows millions for the shopping center, and a delay in getting funding to the grocery store. Probably also some incompetence involved, like in most everything. One example in one spot isn't proof of something not working. Though I know conservatives love just running with singular anecdotes.
Food deserts are a real thing. Capitalism isn't perfect. Far from it. Leaving it up to capitalism you get low income neighborhoods without access to fresh foods/grocery stores and just fast food/convenience stores. I think government run or government subsidized grocery stores in these food desert areas makes sense.
Here’s some local reporting for you. Not a whole lot of info other than the crime problem. Inner city, what a shocker.
That sucked. Here’s one a little better, from the Washington Post tho.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/07/18/city-owned-grocery-stores-crime-funding/
Here’s some local reporting for you. Not a whole lot of info other than the crime problem.
This is what drove out grocery stores in the first place. Now they want to pretend they're stepping in to help where people have a hard time getting fresh food?
Funny how the class clown steps right in it. 'food deserts'.....?
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I didn’t want to create a new thread for this, but the Democrats posted this and shortly thereafter deleted it.
I think someone there finally realized that this graph is mostly under Dementia Joe’s tenure.
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