Gerrymandering arms race
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What role should racial demographics play in congressional districting?
Depends on if a historically under represented minority is being purposefully gerrymandered out of representation in the drawing of district lines. We don't exactly have the best history with that (redlining, etc). I'd love completely independent groups developing completely logical district lines in a way that's equitable for everyone, but we don't have that.
Should Texas be able to call a special session to push for redistricting years before they're supposed to specifically to help Reps/Trump in the midterms?
Should Texas be able to call a special session to push for redistricting years before they're supposed to specifically to help Reps/Trump in the midterms?
If that's what the state wants to do, and they have the votes to do it, why shouldn't they be able to call a special session?
California, New York, and Illinois can do the same. Their current maps look like they're gerrymandered worse than Texas. So, if their current policies have caused years of population loss for those states, what is going to happen to their moderates and conservatives when their state's policies become even bluer? If blue states participate in this arms race, it will come back to bite them in the ass when the 2030 census rolls around and they lose more congressional seats and electoral votes to the Midwest and Southeast. I hope they do it. It will be better for us in Ohio.
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Should Texas be able to call a special session to push for redistricting years before they're supposed to specifically to help Reps/Trump in the midterms?
If that's what the state wants to do, and they have the votes to do it, why shouldn't they be able to call a special session?
California, New York, and Illinois can do the same. Their current maps look like they're gerrymandered worse than Texas. So, if their current policies have caused years of population loss for those states, what is going to happen to their moderates and conservatives when their state's policies become even bluer? If blue states participate in this arms race, it will come back to bite them in the ass when the 2030 census rolls around and they lose more congressional seats and electoral votes to the Midwest and Southeast. I hope they do it. It will be better for us in Ohio.
If that's what the state wants to do, and they have the votes to do it, why shouldn't they be able to call a special session?
California, New York, and Illinois can do the same. Their current maps look like they're gerrymandered worse than Texas. So, if their current policies have caused years of population loss for those states, what is going to happen to their moderates and conservatives when their state's policies become even bluer? If blue states participate in this arms race, it will come back to bite them in the ass when the 2030 census rolls around and they lose more congressional seats and electoral votes to the Midwest and Southeast. I hope they do it. It will be better for us in Ohio.
yep.
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Should Texas be able to call a special session to push for redistricting years before they're supposed to specifically to help Reps/Trump in the midterms?
If that's what the state wants to do, and they have the votes to do it, why shouldn't they be able to call a special session?
California, New York, and Illinois can do the same. Their current maps look like they're gerrymandered worse than Texas. So, if their current policies have caused years of population loss for those states, what is going to happen to their moderates and conservatives when their state's policies become even bluer? If blue states participate in this arms race, it will come back to bite them in the ass when the 2030 census rolls around and they lose more congressional seats and electoral votes to the Midwest and Southeast. I hope they do it. It will be better for us in Ohio.
If that's what the state wants to do, and they have the votes to do it, why shouldn't they be able to call a special session?
California, New York, and Illinois can do the same. Their current maps look like they're gerrymandered worse than Texas. So, if their current policies have caused years of population loss for those states, what is going to happen to their moderates and conservatives when their state's policies become even bluer? If blue states participate in this arms race, it will come back to bite them in the ass when the 2030 census rolls around and they lose more congressional seats and electoral votes to the Midwest and Southeast. I hope they do it. It will be better for us in Ohio.
I'm against the idea of every state going full gerrymandering arms race. But if Texas starts it, I can see why blue states feel the need to follow suit.
Again, I'd prefer everything be drawn by independent groups and not be touched for extended periods of time.
Otherwise we're diving further into our modern political era of doing everything you can to bend rules and grab at power (yes, yes, "that's always existed", I gotcha... we're still reaching new levels).
And the shifts of population from blue states to red states is over blown, based on the numbers, but that's a different topic.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
If that's what the state wants to do, and they have the votes to do it, why shouldn't they be able to call a special session?
California, New York, and Illinois can do the same. Their current maps look like they're gerrymandered worse than Texas. So, if their current policies have caused years of population loss for those states, what is going to happen to their moderates and conservatives when their state's policies become even bluer? If blue states participate in this arms race, it will come back to bite them in the ass when the 2030 census rolls around and they lose more congressional seats and electoral votes to the Midwest and Southeast. I hope they do it. It will be better for us in Ohio.
I'm against the idea of every state going full gerrymandering arms race. But if Texas starts it, I can see why blue states feel the need to follow suit.
Again, I'd prefer everything be drawn by independent groups and not be touched for extended periods of time.
Otherwise we're diving further into our modern political era of doing everything you can to bend rules and grab at power (yes, yes, "that's always existed", I gotcha... we're still reaching new levels).
And the shifts of population from blue states to red states is over blown, based on the numbers, but that's a different topic.
But if Texas starts it, I can see why blue states feel the need to follow suit.
Man you're thick headed, Texas didn't start it.
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If that's what the state wants to do, and they have the votes to do it, why shouldn't they be able to call a special session?
California, New York, and Illinois can do the same. Their current maps look like they're gerrymandered worse than Texas. So, if their current policies have caused years of population loss for those states, what is going to happen to their moderates and conservatives when their state's policies become even bluer? If blue states participate in this arms race, it will come back to bite them in the ass when the 2030 census rolls around and they lose more congressional seats and electoral votes to the Midwest and Southeast. I hope they do it. It will be better for us in Ohio.
I'm against the idea of every state going full gerrymandering arms race. But if Texas starts it, I can see why blue states feel the need to follow suit.
Again, I'd prefer everything be drawn by independent groups and not be touched for extended periods of time.
Otherwise we're diving further into our modern political era of doing everything you can to bend rules and grab at power (yes, yes, "that's always existed", I gotcha... we're still reaching new levels).
And the shifts of population from blue states to red states is over blown, based on the numbers, but that's a different topic.
And the shifts of population from blue states to red states is over blown, based on the numbers, but that's a different topic.
Look at how much outrage has been generated by a potential change of 5 seats in Texas. The populous blue states will lose seats/electoral votes due to emigration to red states AND because illegals will no longer count toward the census. I figure this causes them to lose between 5-15 seats/votes for 2032. +10 to the House for the GOP would be a big deal in 2032.
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If that's what the state wants to do, and they have the votes to do it, why shouldn't they be able to call a special session?
California, New York, and Illinois can do the same. Their current maps look like they're gerrymandered worse than Texas. So, if their current policies have caused years of population loss for those states, what is going to happen to their moderates and conservatives when their state's policies become even bluer? If blue states participate in this arms race, it will come back to bite them in the ass when the 2030 census rolls around and they lose more congressional seats and electoral votes to the Midwest and Southeast. I hope they do it. It will be better for us in Ohio.
I'm against the idea of every state going full gerrymandering arms race. But if Texas starts it, I can see why blue states feel the need to follow suit.
Again, I'd prefer everything be drawn by independent groups and not be touched for extended periods of time.
Otherwise we're diving further into our modern political era of doing everything you can to bend rules and grab at power (yes, yes, "that's always existed", I gotcha... we're still reaching new levels).
And the shifts of population from blue states to red states is over blown, based on the numbers, but that's a different topic.
***ignorant crap***
Just once, learn what the hell you are squawking about?
United States Representatives from California
The following is an alphabetical list of United States Representatives from California. For chronological tables of members of the United States House of Representatives from California, see each congressional district's article. California's current U.S. House delegation consists of 43 Democrats and 9 Republicans. 1st district:California - 43 democrats to the House, only 9 republicans.
but Trump won 40% of the vote. So, roughly, that should have been about 17 republicans.
California unfairly gerrymandered to screw over the republicans and give themselves the advantage.
"oh, I guess California started the redistricting war" eh?
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Is anyone here onboard with this?
If Texas pushes through redistricting (Gerrymandering) years earlier than they're supposed to it will lead to an arms race of redistricting around the country. Or at least it should, as it seems Dems will finally fight fire with fire.
Unless one of you MAGA boys wants to defend what Texas is doing but then tell me California doing the exact same thing is wrong. Normally your hypocrisy is at least across two sentences...
Is anyone here onboard with this?
If Texas pushes through redistricting (Gerrymandering) years earlier than they're supposed to it will lead to an arms race of redistricting around the country. Or at least it should, as it seems Dems will finally fight fire with fire.
Unless one of you MAGA boys wants to defend what Texas is doing but then tell me California doing the exact same thing is wrong. Normally your hypocrisy is at least across two sentences...
LOl...the dems have gerrymandered for decades and have run out of ways to do it. Plus, you people are done. You aren't winning anything for the next 20 years. You have moved from the party for the lower income people to the party representing the folks with nose rings.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
And the shifts of population from blue states to red states is over blown, based on the numbers, but that's a different topic.
Look at how much outrage has been generated by a potential change of 5 seats in Texas. The populous blue states will lose seats/electoral votes due to emigration to red states AND because illegals will no longer count toward the census. I figure this causes them to lose between 5-15 seats/votes for 2032. +10 to the House for the GOP would be a big deal in 2032.
Look at how much outrage has been generated by a potential change of 5 seats in Texas. The populous blue states will lose seats/electoral votes due to emigration to red states AND because illegals will no longer count toward the census. I figure this causes them to lose between 5-15 seats/votes for 2032. +10 to the House for the GOP would be a big deal in 2032.
Outrage at the of cycle redistricting at the direction of a president specifically looking to create more seats for his party.
Well, it is good that you figure that. We'll see what happens
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Is anyone here onboard with this?
If Texas pushes through redistricting (Gerrymandering) years earlier than they're supposed to it will lead to an arms race of redistricting around the country. Or at least it should, as it seems Dems will finally fight fire with fire.
Unless one of you MAGA boys wants to defend what Texas is doing but then tell me California doing the exact same thing is wrong. Normally your hypocrisy is at least across two sentences...
LOl...the dems have gerrymandered for decades and have run out of ways to do it. Plus, you people are done. You aren't winning anything for the next 20 years. You have moved from the party for the lower income people to the party representing the folks with nose rings.
LOl...the dems have gerrymandered for decades and have run out of ways to do it. Plus, you people are done. You aren't winning anything for the next 20 years. You have moved from the party for the lower income people to the party representing the folks with nose rings.
Who exactly are my people?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
LOl...the dems have gerrymandered for decades and have run out of ways to do it. Plus, you people are done. You aren't winning anything for the next 20 years. You have moved from the party for the lower income people to the party representing the folks with nose rings.
Who exactly are my people?
Who exactly are my people?
Illegals - you've made that clear - "they are just here to have a better life". Gays and trans. socialists - like mamdani. any leftwing radical...Everyone else, it seems you ridicule to cover up for your extreme lack of ability to intelligently converse on any subject. Your pecking is just destructive to every discussion.
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and....the truth is, it is typical corruption of leftwinger's existence - everything that politically benefits them is great, but it it isn't advantageous to them, it's terrible, illegal, a "threat to democracy" etc.
Dems wanted to draw every Republican out of Maryland but now lambast Texas redistricting
The 'Patapsco Pterodactyl' formed as part of a Democratic push to oust Republicans through redistricting
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LOl...the dems have gerrymandered for decades and have run out of ways to do it. Plus, you people are done. You aren't winning anything for the next 20 years. You have moved from the party for the lower income people to the party representing the folks with nose rings.
Who exactly are my people?
Who exactly are my people?
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Who exactly are my people?
Illegals - you've made that clear - "they are just here to have a better life". Gays and trans. socialists - like mamdani. any leftwing radical...Everyone else, it seems you ridicule to cover up for your extreme lack of ability to intelligently converse on any subject. Your pecking is just destructive to every discussion.
Illegals - you've made that clear - "they are just here to have a better life". Gays and trans. socialists - like mamdani. any leftwing radical...Everyone else, it seems you ridicule to cover up for your extreme lack of ability to intelligently converse on any subject. Your pecking is just destructive to every discussion.
Ohh, gotcha
And pedos are your people
I remember now
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Who exactly are my people?
LOL, OMG. Nailed it !
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Illegals - you've made that clear - "they are just here to have a better life". Gays and trans. socialists - like mamdani. any leftwing radical...Everyone else, it seems you ridicule to cover up for your extreme lack of ability to intelligently converse on any subject. Your pecking is just destructive to every discussion.
Ohh, gotcha
And pedos are your people
I remember now
*FART*
you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.
You won't even say Laken Riley's name.
The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country. gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.
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*FART*
you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.
You won't even say Laken Riley's name.
The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country. gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.
you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.
You won't even say Laken Riley's name.
The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country. gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.
Imagine that.. The one who supports Pedo's right calling everyone else a Pedo... He's a fucking mental nut job...
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If it gets rid of that nasty @#nt Crockett, yer damn right I'm on board with it!!
It's about time!
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*FART*
you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.
You won't even say Laken Riley's name.
The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country. gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.
you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.
You won't even say Laken Riley's name.
The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country. gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.
I don't think you've said the name of any of Epstein's victims
Because pedo sex traffickers are your people
Sick
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.
You won't even say Laken Riley's name.
The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country. gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.
I don't think you've said the name of any of Epstein's victims
Because pedo sex traffickers are your people
Sick
Puke Peck Fart
I’m just filling in. Calf is obviously busy.
I’ll add nothing more in the spirit of filling in.
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