Gerrymandering arms race

[Jax]

https://x.com/GerryCallahan/status/1952894955497664996?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1952894955497664996%7Ctwgr%5E436d8b2b3bcd7b496354378528a017f4546f0913%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/massachusetts-governor-criticizes-texas-redistricting-state-zero-republican/

[calfoxwc]

and....the truth is, it is typical corruption of leftwinger's existence - everything that politically benefits them is great, but it it isn't advantageous to them, it's terrible, illegal, a "threat to democracy" etc.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dems-wanted-draw-every-republican-out-maryland-now-lambast-texas-redistricting

Dems wanted to draw every Republican out of Maryland but now lambast Texas redistricting

The 'Patapsco Pterodactyl' formed as part of a Democratic push to oust Republicans through redistricting

[DieHardBrownsFan1]

@mld-woody said:

Who exactly are my people?

[MLD Woody]

@calfoxwc said:

Illegals - you've made that clear - "they are just here to have a better life". Gays and trans. socialists - like mamdani. any leftwing radical...Everyone else, it seems you ridicule to cover up for your extreme lack of ability to intelligently converse on any subject. Your pecking is just destructive to every discussion.

Ohh, gotcha

And pedos are your people 

I remember now

[calfoxwc]

@diehardbrownsfan1 said:

LOL, OMG. Nailed it ! 

[calfoxwc]

@mld-woody said:

*FART*

you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.

You won't even say Laken Riley's name.

The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country.  gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.

[nickers]

@calfoxwc said:

you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.

You won't even say Laken Riley's name.

The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country.  gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.

Imagine that.. The one who supports Pedo's right calling everyone else a Pedo... He's a fucking mental nut job...

[Axe]

If it gets rid of that nasty @#nt Crockett, yer damn right I'm on board with it!!

It's about time!

[MLD Woody]

@calfoxwc said:

you have justified illegal criminals time and time again - "they are just here to have a better life.You keep ignoring and making light of the many violent crimes by so many illegals, and you've ignored the sex trafficking the entire time.

You won't even say Laken Riley's name.

The rest of us want those illegals in prison in some other country.  gone. So, your immature attempt at a bounceback is just stupid. You wouldn't be considered a belligerent/ignorant asswhole if you would just stop acting like one.

I don't think you've said the name of any of Epstein's victims 

Because pedo sex traffickers are your people 

Sick

[Ibleedbrown]

@mld-woody said:

Puke Peck Fart

I’m just filling in. Calf is obviously busy. 

I’ll add nothing more in the spirit of filling in. 

[calfoxwc]

@mld-woody said:

***FART***

again, no one knows their  names, birdgirl. You really are a detriment to every discussion on this forum. I gave you Laken Riley's name a long time ago, and you still won't say her name.

[calfoxwc]

Meanwhile - 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2025/08/08/oh-thats-why-democrats-dont-want-a-new-census-n2661554

Oh, That’s Why Democrats Don’t Want a New Census

"

I have instructed our Department of Commerce to immediately begin work on a new and highly accurate CENSUS based on modern day facts and figures and, importantly, using the results and information gained from the Presidential Election of 2024. People who are in our Country illegally WILL NOT BE COUNTED IN THE CENSUS. Thank you for your attention to this matter!" Trump posted on Truth Social Thursday. 

Advertisement

The directive sent Democrats into a meltdown and thanks to White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller, we know why. 

Without illegal aliens counted in the U.S. Census, which determines congressional representation in Washington D.C., Democrats would be in the minority. 

"They stole 20 or 30 House seats by counting illegal aliens in the census, and now you have Democrats talking about, 'Oh, Republicans can't change their congressional maps!' You have literally brought invaders into this country by the tens of millions to RIG the results of the census, and the apportionment of congressional seats!" Miller says. "And then on top of that, of course, you have a situation where even though Republicans won a landslide in the House popular vote, Democrats have so thoroughly rigged and gerrymandered and manipulated their districts beyond all recognition that Republicans only gained a 4-seat majority, despite winning a much smaller majority in the popular vote in 2010 and getting 63 seats.""

[FairHooker11]

@axe said:

If it gets rid of that nasty @#nt Crockett, yer damn right I'm on board with it!!

It's about time!

[VaporTrail]

Messed around with AI to get some actual data. 

The important data is the last column, which shows the difference in % of republican held seats from the % of popular vote for that state. This number essentially shows you how badly each state is gerrymandered. The further from zero, the worse your state is. Negative numbers indicate Democrat favor and positive numbers indicate Republican favor. I've sorted the whole chart by most populous state. As you go lower in the chart, the data in the last column becomes less useful because the total number of house reps per state drops. 

Of the states that have 10 or more house reps

• Virginia shows almost no difference between popular vote and house rep breakdown
• Illinois has the biggest difference

As a whole, the country sucks at minimizing the effect of gerrymandering.

2024 U.S. House Election Results and Presidential Popular Vote by State (Sorted by Population)

State	Population (2023 Est.)	Total House Seats	Democratic House Reps	Democratic % of State Seats	Republican House Reps	Republican % of State Seats	Democratic Vote % (Harris)	Republican Vote % (Trump)	Republican House % - Trump Vote %
California	38,965,193	52	40	76.92%	12	23.08%	58.47%	38.33%	-15.25%
Texas	30,503,301	38	13	34.21%	25	65.79%	42.46%	56.14%	9.65%
Florida	22,610,726	28	8	28.57%	20	71.43%	42.99%	56.09%	15.34%
New York	19,571,216	26	16	61.54%	10	38.46%	55.91%	43.31%	-4.85%
Pennsylvania	12,961,683	17	9	52.94%	8	47.06%	48.66%	50.37%	-3.31%
Illinois	12,549,689	17	14	82.35%	3	17.65%	54.37%	43.47%	-25.82%
Ohio	11,785,935	15	5	33.33%	10	66.67%	43.93%	55.14%	11.53%
Georgia	11,029,227	14	5	35.71%	9	64.29%	48.53%	50.73%	13.56%
North Carolina	10,835,491	14	7	50.00%	7	50.00%	47.65%	50.86%	-0.86%
Michigan	10,030,722	13	6	46.15%	7	53.85%	48.31%	49.73%	4.12%
New Jersey	9,290,841	12	9	75.00%	3	25.00%	51.97%	46.06%	-21.06%
Virginia	8,715,698	11	6	54.55%	5	45.45%	51.83%	46.05%	-0.60%
Washington	7,812,880	10	8	80.00%	2	20.00%	57.23%	39.01%	-19.01%
Arizona	7,431,344	9	3	33.33%	6	66.67%	46.69%	52.22%	14.45%
Tennessee	7,126,489	9	1	11.11%	8	88.89%	34.47%	64.19%	24.70%
Massachusetts	7,001,399	9	9	100.00%	0	0.00%	61.22%	36.02%	-36.02%
Indiana	6,862,199	9	2	22.22%	7	77.78%	39.62%	58.58%	19.20%
Missouri	6,196,156	8	2	25.00%	6	75.00%	40.08%	58.49%	16.51%
Maryland	6,180,253	8	7	87.50%	1	12.50%	62.62%	34.08%	-21.58%
Wisconsin	5,910,955	8	2	25.00%	6	75.00%	48.84%	49.70%	25.30%
Colorado	5,877,610	8	5	62.50%	3	37.50%	54.13%	43.14%	-5.64%
Minnesota	5,737,915	8	4	50.00%	4	50.00%	50.92%	46.68%	3.32%
South Carolina	5,373,555	7	1	14.29%	6	85.71%	40.36%	58.23%	27.48%
Alabama	5,108,468	7	1	14.29%	6	85.71%	34.10%	64.57%	21.14%
Louisiana	4,573,749	6	1	16.67%	5	83.33%	38.21%	60.22%	23.11%
Kentucky	4,526,332	6	1	16.67%	5	83.33%	33.94%	64.47%	18.86%
Oregon	4,233,358	6	4	66.67%	2	33.33%	55.27%	40.97%	-7.64%
Oklahoma	4,053,824	5	0	0.00%	5	100.00%	31.90%	66.16%	33.84%
Connecticut	3,617,176	5	5	100.00%	0	0.00%	56.40%	41.89%	-41.89%
Utah	3,417,734	4	0	0.00%	4	100.00%	37.79%	59.38%	40.62%
Iowa	3,207,004	4	0	0.00%	4	100.00%	42.52%	55.73%	44.27%
Nevada	3,194,176	4	3	75.00%	1	25.00%	47.49%	50.59%	-25.59%
Arkansas	3,067,732	4	0	0.00%	4	100.00%	33.56%	64.20%	35.80%
Mississippi	2,939,690	4	1	25.00%	3	75.00%	38.00%	60.89%	14.11%
Kansas	2,944,376	4	1	25.00%	3	75.00%	41.04%	57.16%	17.84%
New Mexico	2,114,371	3	3	100.00%	0	0.00%	51.85%	45.85%	-45.85%
Nebraska	1,978,379	3	0	0.00%	3	100.00%	39.06%	59.63%	40.37%
Idaho	1,964,374	2	0	0.00%	2	100.00%	30.39%	66.89%	33.11%
West Virginia	1,770,071	2	0	0.00%	2	100.00%	28.11%	69.98%	30.02%
Hawaii	1,435,138	2	2	100.00%	0	0.00%	60.59%	37.48%	-37.48%
New Hampshire	1,402,054	2	2	100.00%	0	0.00%	50.65%	47.87%	-47.87%
Maine	1,395,722	2	2	100.00%	0	0.00%	52.44%	45.50%	-45.50%
Montana	1,132,366	2	0	0.00%	2	100.00%	38.46%	58.39%	41.61%
Rhode Island	1,095,962	2	2	100.00%	0	0.00%	55.54%	41.76%	-41.76%
Delaware	1,030,132	1	1	100.00%	0	0.00%	56.63%	41.89%	-41.89%
South Dakota	919,318	1	0	0.00%	1	100.00%	34.24%	63.43%	36.57%
North Dakota	783,926	1	0	0.00%	1	100.00%	30.51%	66.96%	33.04%
Vermont	647,464	1	1	100.00%	0	0.00%	63.83%	32.32%	-32.32%
Wyoming	586,485	1	0	0.00%	1	100.00%	25.84%	71.60%	28.40%
Total	331,589,273	435	215	49.43%	220	50.57%	48.3%	49.8%	0.77%

[MLD Woody]

@vaportrail said:

Messed around with AI to get some actual data. 

The important data is the last column, which shows the difference in % of republican held seats from the % of popular vote for that state. This number essentially shows you how badly each state is gerrymandered. I've sorted the whole chart by most populous state. As you go lower in the chart, the data in the last column becomes less useful because the total number of house reps per state drops. 

Of the states that have 10 or more house reps

• Virginia shows almost no difference between popular vote and house rep breakdown
• Illinois has the biggest difference

As a whole, the country sucks at minimizing the effect of gerrymandering.

2024 U.S. House Election Results and Presidential Popular Vote by State (Sorted by Population)

State	Population (2023 Est.)	Total House Seats	Democratic House Reps	Democratic % of State Seats	Republican House Reps	Republican % of State Seats	Democratic Vote % (Harris)	Republican Vote % (Trump)	Republican House % - Trump Vote %
California	38,965,193	52	40	76.92%	12	23.08%	58.47%	38.33%	-15.25%
Texas	30,503,301	38	13	34.21%	25	65.79%	42.46%	56.14%	9.65%
Florida	22,610,726	28	8	28.57%	20	71.43%	42.99%	56.09%	15.34%
New York	19,571,216	26	16	61.54%	10	38.46%	55.91%	43.31%	-4.85%
Pennsylvania	12,961,683	17	9	52.94%	8	47.06%	48.66%	50.37%	-3.31%
Illinois	12,549,689	17	14	82.35%	3	17.65%	54.37%	43.47%	-25.82%
Ohio	11,785,935	15	5	33.33%	10	66.67%	43.93%	55.14%	11.53%
Georgia	11,029,227	14	5	35.71%	9	64.29%	48.53%	50.73%	13.56%
North Carolina	10,835,491	14	7	50.00%	7	50.00%	47.65%	50.86%	-0.86%
Michigan	10,030,722	13	6	46.15%	7	53.85%	48.31%	49.73%	4.12%
New Jersey	9,290,841	12	9	75.00%	3	25.00%	51.97%	46.06%	-21.06%
Virginia	8,715,698	11	6	54.55%	5	45.45%	51.83%	46.05%	-0.60%
Washington	7,812,880	10	8	80.00%	2	20.00%	57.23%	39.01%	-19.01%
Arizona	7,431,344	9	3	33.33%	6	66.67%	46.69%	52.22%	14.45%
Tennessee	7,126,489	9	1	11.11%	8	88.89%	34.47%	64.19%	24.70%
Massachusetts	7,001,399	9	9	100.00%	0	0.00%	61.22%	36.02%	-36.02%
Indiana	6,862,199	9	2	22.22%	7	77.78%	39.62%	58.58%	19.20%
Missouri	6,196,156	8	2	25.00%	6	75.00%	40.08%	58.49%	16.51%
Maryland	6,180,253	8	7	87.50%	1	12.50%	62.62%	34.08%	-21.58%
Wisconsin	5,910,955	8	2	25.00%	6	75.00%	48.84%	49.70%	25.30%
Colorado	5,877,610	8	5	62.50%	3	37.50%	54.13%	43.14%	-5.64%
Minnesota	5,737,915	8	4	50.00%	4	50.00%	50.92%	46.68%	3.32%
South Carolina	5,373,555	7	1	14.29%	6	85.71%	40.36%	58.23%	27.48%
Alabama	5,108,468	7	1	14.29%	6	85.71%	34.10%	64.57%	21.14%
Louisiana	4,573,749	6	1	16.67%	5	83.33%	38.21%	60.22%	23.11%
Kentucky	4,526,332	6	1	16.67%	5	83.33%	33.94%	64.47%	18.86%
Oregon	4,233,358	6	4	66.67%	2	33.33%	55.27%	40.97%	-7.64%
Oklahoma	4,053,824	5	0	0.00%	5	100.00%	31.90%	66.16%	33.84%
Connecticut	3,617,176	5	5	100.00%	0	0.00%	56.40%	41.89%	-41.89%
Utah	3,417,734	4	0	0.00%	4	100.00%	37.79%	59.38%	40.62%
Iowa	3,207,004	4	0	0.00%	4	100.00%	42.52%	55.73%	44.27%
Nevada	3,194,176	4	3	75.00%	1	25.00%	47.49%	50.59%	-25.59%
Arkansas	3,067,732	4	0	0.00%	4	100.00%	33.56%	64.20%	35.80%
Mississippi	2,939,690	4	1	25.00%	3	75.00%	38.00%	60.89%	14.11%
Kansas	2,944,376	4	1	25.00%	3	75.00%	41.04%	57.16%	17.84%
New Mexico	2,114,371	3	3	100.00%	0	0.00%	51.85%	45.85%	-45.85%
Nebraska	1,978,379	3	0	0.00%	3	100.00%	39.06%	59.63%	40.37%
Idaho	1,964,374	2	0	0.00%	2	100.00%	30.39%	66.89%	33.11%
West Virginia	1,770,071	2	0	0.00%	2	100.00%	28.11%	69.98%	30.02%
Hawaii	1,435,138	2	2	100.00%	0	0.00%	60.59%	37.48%	-37.48%
New Hampshire	1,402,054	2	2	100.00%	0	0.00%	50.65%	47.87%	-47.87%
Maine	1,395,722	2	2	100.00%	0	0.00%	52.44%	45.50%	-45.50%
Montana	1,132,366	2	0	0.00%	2	100.00%	38.46%	58.39%	41.61%
Rhode Island	1,095,962	2	2	100.00%	0	0.00%	55.54%	41.76%	-41.76%
Delaware	1,030,132	1	1	100.00%	0	0.00%	56.63%	41.89%	-41.89%
South Dakota	919,318	1	0	0.00%	1	100.00%	34.24%	63.43%	36.57%
North Dakota	783,926	1	0	0.00%	1	100.00%	30.51%	66.96%	33.04%
Vermont	647,464	1	1	100.00%	0	0.00%	63.83%	32.32%	-32.32%
Wyoming	586,485	1	0	0.00%	1	100.00%	25.84%	71.60%	28.40%
Total	331,589,273	435	215	49.43%	220	50.57%	48.3%	49.8%	0.77%

I'd think you'd have to take into account the likelihood of a registered Dem vs a registered Rep to vote. 

It's also only based on actual party registration, not political leanings. Obviously the data can't be perfect though. --- read it wrong, that's not how the data is set up

You could try comparing it to how the state voted in the presidential election. --- nevermind, I see that's how it was setup now. Unfortunately that would add the voter turnout element. 

Or how they voted for senators. But that's not perfect either. 

Interesting though. But I am still hesitant to just use AI gathered data 

[Jax]

Kind of makes you understand why it was so important for democrats to flood certain areas with illegals.

[VaporTrail]

@mld-woody said:

But I am still hesitant to just use AI gathered data 

It's actually really damn good at parsing raw data. For now, I draw the line at letting AI interpret the data, it's still susceptible to unknown biases. But when I need to find an exact Medicare guideline for them to cover a specific service, I let AI find what I need and verify. 

[Westside Steve]

@vaportrail said:

It's actually really damn good at parsing raw data. For now, I draw the line at letting AI interpret the data, it's still susceptible to unknown biases. But when I need to find an exact Medicare guideline for them to cover a specific service, I let AI find what I need and verify. 

Well, I have no complaint with a I, and yes, I know. It doesn't know the difference between bullshit and straight up once in a while. But on the other hand it's not actively twisted toward left or right. Like google.

Of course, it's always funny to see people switch hats on gerrymandering, depending on whose side benefits.

WSS

[JAFBF]

@fairhooker11 said:

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[hammertime]

@jafbf said:

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Nothing ever happens to these people.

ill wait.

and hope.