The Official Preseason Browns at Panthers Game Thread
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Shadeur's got excellent arm talent. He's going to get himself murdered if he keeps trying that hero ball shit against starters. I think we should start him week 1.
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I get the idea the Browns secondary really works on reach around pass break ups. They’ve had a few this night and they were not called for PI. Right place, right time, good timing and good form.
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The dichotomy of football fans
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Sanders is kinda socially awkward. His interview skills come off as quirky.
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Sanders is kinda socially awkward. His interview skills come off as quirky.
Sanders is kinda socially awkward. His interview skills come off as quirky.
It's ok, keep on throwing TDs lol
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I'll be on, at minimum, for the first half. If you're looking for a place to watch the game, talk shop and say your piece - feel free to join us on discord. I'll be streaming it live.
You can download it for your phone, tablet, laptop or PC.
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I'm on the air at the moment, or I would stop in
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Overall a good night for the Browns with lots of talent seen both sides of the ball. Better depth than I thought we had.
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Shadeur's got excellent arm talent. He's going to get himself murdered if he keeps trying that hero ball shit against starters. I think we should start him week 1.
Shadeur's got excellent arm talent. He's going to get himself murdered if he keeps trying that hero ball shit against starters. I think we should start him week 1.
Didn't he play against starters? Looked pretty dood.
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I didn’t realize the Browns had an official bacon of the Cleveland Browns. Sugardale, apparently.
If you look at the little Browns logo in the bottom corner, it kinda looks like bacon. Genius marketing.
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Joe Thomas is extremely good at broadcasting. He’s personable and he has that knack like Romo does where he can slip in nuts and bolts talk in layman’s terms.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the voice of the Cleveland Browns at some point.
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I watched a Panther feed. I've seen nor heard nothing about the game from media yet.
As someone who is pulling for Sanders, I think he would've been walking towards the tunnel not being very satisfied with his performance.
I think that he missed some really easy throws, especially while on the move, which has been a knock on him. And when the pass wasn't there while the pocket was breaking apart he kept going backwards to try and go sandlot, which has been a knock on him. So I think those plays are going to have him rolling around in bed instead of sleeping tonight.
Having said that, it wasn't all bad. He did make some nice throws. He never looked lost or confused to me. It never looked like the game was too fast or that the stage was too big. If I were Stef, I'd walk up to him and say something like, You've got stuff to work on! But you did alright out there.
I'll add this, early in the game he scrambled around the right side, ran upfield, got the first down and hit the ground with a beautiful slide. My brain said out loud, ALREADY he's smarter than Watson!
Other stuff: #49 was always around the ball. Making tackles, assisting on tackles, just being a PITA to the offense. Was good to see.
#84 did a good job. He caught passes, caught the punts, seems to be pretty quick afoot. Was good to see.
#80 caught one over the middle and tried to muscle his body towards the first down yardage. He didn't get it, but the Panthers had to call in the cavalry because they were getting a Thrashing.
Was good to see.
#53 did a pretty good job I thought...
I want to see our OTHER kicker out there for the next game. Hopkins missed one extra point, and ALMOST missed another. The only kick that looked good was the short FG. - Was not good to see.
And Huntley did well considering he only just got a uniform...and must know that he's got no spot on the team unless multiple QB's get hurt.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
Add in #66 on STs and interior line play. He makes the team for ST kickoff play alone. Marshall and newly added Williams both look better than Ford ever has in terms of finding wiggle room and going for it. And both showed speed. And depth at TE is an unexpected plus. Glad to see this offense utilize them.
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I am not worried about the backs, at least from an initial look.
A few have been mentioned...another who look stout is that kid we signed from the USFL or whatever FL it is called. Tua? something like that. Stout player who runs with authority.
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I watched a Panther feed. I've seen nor heard nothing about the game from media yet.
As someone who is pulling for Sanders, I think he would've been walking towards the tunnel not being very satisfied with his performance.
I think that he missed some really easy throws, especially while on the move, which has been a knock on him. And when the pass wasn't there while the pocket was breaking apart he kept going backwards to try and go sandlot, which has been a knock on him. So I think those plays are going to have him rolling around in bed instead of sleeping tonight.
Having said that, it wasn't all bad. He did make some nice throws. He never looked lost or confused to me. It never looked like the game was too fast or that the stage was too big. If I were Stef, I'd walk up to him and say something like, You've got stuff to work on! But you did alright out there.
I'll add this, early in the game he scrambled around the right side, ran upfield, got the first down and hit the ground with a beautiful slide. My brain said out loud, ALREADY he's smarter than Watson!
Other stuff: #49 was always around the ball. Making tackles, assisting on tackles, just being a PITA to the offense. Was good to see.
#84 did a good job. He caught passes, caught the punts, seems to be pretty quick afoot. Was good to see.
#80 caught one over the middle and tried to muscle his body towards the first down yardage. He didn't get it, but the Panthers had to call in the cavalry because they were getting a Thrashing.
Was good to see.
#53 did a pretty good job I thought...
I want to see our OTHER kicker out there for the next game. Hopkins missed one extra point, and ALMOST missed another. The only kick that looked good was the short FG. - Was not good to see.
And Huntley did well considering he only just got a uniform...and must know that he's got no spot on the team unless multiple QB's get hurt.
I watched a Panther feed. I've seen nor heard nothing about the game from media yet.
As someone who is pulling for Sanders, I think he would've been walking towards the tunnel not being very satisfied with his performance.
I think that he missed some really easy throws, especially while on the move, which has been a knock on him. And when the pass wasn't there while the pocket was breaking apart he kept going backwards to try and go sandlot, which has been a knock on him. So I think those plays are going to have him rolling around in bed instead of sleeping tonight.
Having said that, it wasn't all bad. He did make some nice throws. He never looked lost or confused to me. It never looked like the game was too fast or that the stage was too big. If I were Stef, I'd walk up to him and say something like, You've got stuff to work on! But you did alright out there.
I'll add this, early in the game he scrambled around the right side, ran upfield, got the first down and hit the ground with a beautiful slide. My brain said out loud, ALREADY he's smarter than Watson!
Other stuff: #49 was always around the ball. Making tackles, assisting on tackles, just being a PITA to the offense. Was good to see.
#84 did a good job. He caught passes, caught the punts, seems to be pretty quick afoot. Was good to see.
#80 caught one over the middle and tried to muscle his body towards the first down yardage. He didn't get it, but the Panthers had to call in the cavalry because they were getting a Thrashing.
Was good to see.
#53 did a pretty good job I thought...
I want to see our OTHER kicker out there for the next game. Hopkins missed one extra point, and ALMOST missed another. The only kick that looked good was the short FG. - Was not good to see.
And Huntley did well considering he only just got a uniform...and must know that he's got no spot on the team unless multiple QB's get hurt.
It was a good start for Sanders with a lot of stuff to work on. One thing that would be nice is to see him WITH offensive teammates on the sidelines between series like a leader of men, which this position demands. He's a confident guy - he can do that.
We all saw the game so we saw why before the draft he was often discussed by some pretty well paid draft analysts as one of the best 2 QB prospects. 2 of those guys (McShay & Kiper) rarely agree on stuff except they both felt the same about Sanders. I'm not gonna get as silly as the media bandwagon that got rolling last night because there were bad habits that teams regular season opponents would game plan for. Inexperience even gave a guy like Josh Allen growing pains so it'll be interesting to see how this organization does with this whole situation. And YES both Deion & LeBron were out there in social media joining in on it.
As you can tell, I've been trying to ask people why they can't wait to spend a 1st round pick on a QB in 2026. Again, the MAIN reason Sanders wasn't drafted early by ANY of the teams that needed a QB was his father ran his mouth how many of them he didn't want his son to play for. He made some comment in social media they flashed yesterday that makes me understand why some guys are still going to be interested in the 2026 QBs.
Here's how I think I'm going to proceed. 1 week/game at a time. This week, it was nice to see him show the good stuff he's capable of doing. Remember when someone was previously pointing out the fluttering/wobbley passes? I laughed and called those Billy Kilmer spirals because a lot of them are accurate and completed. That said, 1 of his TD passes to Davis threaded the needle in the end zone with zip and a tight spiral. Actually both TD passes to the same guy had accurate tight spirals. What was the 1 thing the draft analysts that considered him as one of the top 2 QB prospects said? He's the most accurate QB in the draft class. He's good with the 3rd or 4th best TE so just imagine what he can accomplish with the 1st 2 very talented TEs. I want him confident, not cocky (like his dad is - because his dad always backed it up. He's not his dad yet and I like that.)
There's plenty to work on and we saw it. Those Jerome Ford like retreats way behind the line of scrimmage against the AFC North and other defenses could be show stoppers. The footwork has a lot of room for improvement. I Hopefully, the volume of QBs will decrease to the level he'll get more work. I hope the Browns do this like Bernie Kosar reminded people about his rookie year when Danielson started the first 5-6 games or so; and then he got to take over while Mack and Byner were both pacing themselves for over 1000 yards apiece on the ground. It's a little different era so maybe they could swap the experienced to less experienced starter even sooner IF Sanders builds on what we saw. Also keep in mind, Carolina was exactly world beaters last year so let's see what happens before I make any more statements like that.
There's the 1st World According to Wundumson called Flugel of the season; and I'm sticking to it...
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Wow Floriea. That was a pretty one hander.
Wow Floriea. That was a pretty one hander.
My favorite play of the night! It could come right down to keeping him or a 4th QB here...
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I watched a Panther feed. I've seen nor heard nothing about the game from media yet.
As someone who is pulling for Sanders, I think he would've been walking towards the tunnel not being very satisfied with his performance.
I think that he missed some really easy throws, especially while on the move, which has been a knock on him. And when the pass wasn't there while the pocket was breaking apart he kept going backwards to try and go sandlot, which has been a knock on him. So I think those plays are going to have him rolling around in bed instead of sleeping tonight.
Having said that, it wasn't all bad. He did make some nice throws. He never looked lost or confused to me. It never looked like the game was too fast or that the stage was too big. If I were Stef, I'd walk up to him and say something like, You've got stuff to work on! But you did alright out there.
I'll add this, early in the game he scrambled around the right side, ran upfield, got the first down and hit the ground with a beautiful slide. My brain said out loud, ALREADY he's smarter than Watson!
Other stuff: #49 was always around the ball. Making tackles, assisting on tackles, just being a PITA to the offense. Was good to see.
#84 did a good job. He caught passes, caught the punts, seems to be pretty quick afoot. Was good to see.
#80 caught one over the middle and tried to muscle his body towards the first down yardage. He didn't get it, but the Panthers had to call in the cavalry because they were getting a Thrashing.
Was good to see.
#53 did a pretty good job I thought...
I want to see our OTHER kicker out there for the next game. Hopkins missed one extra point, and ALMOST missed another. The only kick that looked good was the short FG. - Was not good to see.
And Huntley did well considering he only just got a uniform...and must know that he's got no spot on the team unless multiple QB's get hurt.
It was a good start for Sanders with a lot of stuff to work on. One thing that would be nice is to see him WITH offensive teammates on the sidelines between series like a leader of men, which this position demands. He's a confident guy - he can do that.
We all saw the game so we saw why before the draft he was often discussed by some pretty well paid draft analysts as one of the best 2 QB prospects. 2 of those guys (McShay & Kiper) rarely agree on stuff except they both felt the same about Sanders. I'm not gonna get as silly as the media bandwagon that got rolling last night because there were bad habits that teams regular season opponents would game plan for. Inexperience even gave a guy like Josh Allen growing pains so it'll be interesting to see how this organization does with this whole situation. And YES both Deion & LeBron were out there in social media joining in on it.
As you can tell, I've been trying to ask people why they can't wait to spend a 1st round pick on a QB in 2026. Again, the MAIN reason Sanders wasn't drafted early by ANY of the teams that needed a QB was his father ran his mouth how many of them he didn't want his son to play for. He made some comment in social media they flashed yesterday that makes me understand why some guys are still going to be interested in the 2026 QBs.
Here's how I think I'm going to proceed. 1 week/game at a time. This week, it was nice to see him show the good stuff he's capable of doing. Remember when someone was previously pointing out the fluttering/wobbley passes? I laughed and called those Billy Kilmer spirals because a lot of them are accurate and completed. That said, 1 of his TD passes to Davis threaded the needle in the end zone with zip and a tight spiral. Actually both TD passes to the same guy had accurate tight spirals. What was the 1 thing the draft analysts that considered him as one of the top 2 QB prospects said? He's the most accurate QB in the draft class. He's good with the 3rd or 4th best TE so just imagine what he can accomplish with the 1st 2 very talented TEs. I want him confident, not cocky (like his dad is - because his dad always backed it up. He's not his dad yet and I like that.)
There's plenty to work on and we saw it. Those Jerome Ford like retreats way behind the line of scrimmage against the AFC North and other defenses could be show stoppers. The footwork has a lot of room for improvement. I Hopefully, the volume of QBs will decrease to the level he'll get more work. I hope the Browns do this like Bernie Kosar reminded people about his rookie year when Danielson started the first 5-6 games or so; and then he got to take over while Mack and Byner were both pacing themselves for over 1000 yards apiece on the ground. It's a little different era so maybe they could swap the experienced to less experienced starter even sooner IF Sanders builds on what we saw. Also keep in mind, Carolina was exactly world beaters last year so let's see what happens before I make any more statements like that.
There's the 1st World According to Wundumson called Flugel of the season; and I'm sticking to it...
There's the 1st World According to Wundumson called Flugel of the season; and I'm sticking to it...
It was a fun game to watch both sides of the ball and ST kickoffs. A lot of highly motivated and contagious play out there. I think this will be a fun season to watch regardless of the final record. The truth will lie in how this FO makes its cuts to the final 53. If Ford and Strong are still on the team, then Berry & Depo should be cut.
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There's the 1st World According to Wundumson called Flugel of the season; and I'm sticking to it...
It was a fun game to watch both sides of the ball and ST kickoffs. A lot of highly motivated and contagious play out there. I think this will be a fun season to watch regardless of the final record. The truth will lie in how this FO makes its cuts to the final 53. If Ford and Strong are still on the team, then Berry & Depo should be cut.
It was a fun game to watch both sides of the ball and ST kickoffs. A lot of highly motivated and contagious play out there. I think this will be a fun season to watch regardless of the final record. The truth will lie in how this FO makes its cuts to the final 53. If Ford and Strong are still on the team, then Berry & Depo should be cut.
Maybe the biggest roster spot(s) on the line come of the ability to develop a young QB this franchise drafted in this era. It takes an entire village that was hired by the owner so let's hope some of this stuff starts getting better a fortune... Let's hope Tommy Rees and the QB Coach are game changers here...
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I watched a Panther feed. I've seen nor heard nothing about the game from media yet.
As someone who is pulling for Sanders, I think he would've been walking towards the tunnel not being very satisfied with his performance.
I think that he missed some really easy throws, especially while on the move, which has been a knock on him. And when the pass wasn't there while the pocket was breaking apart he kept going backwards to try and go sandlot, which has been a knock on him. So I think those plays are going to have him rolling around in bed instead of sleeping tonight.
Having said that, it wasn't all bad. He did make some nice throws. He never looked lost or confused to me. It never looked like the game was too fast or that the stage was too big. If I were Stef, I'd walk up to him and say something like, You've got stuff to work on! But you did alright out there.
I'll add this, early in the game he scrambled around the right side, ran upfield, got the first down and hit the ground with a beautiful slide. My brain said out loud, ALREADY he's smarter than Watson!
Other stuff: #49 was always around the ball. Making tackles, assisting on tackles, just being a PITA to the offense. Was good to see.
#84 did a good job. He caught passes, caught the punts, seems to be pretty quick afoot. Was good to see.
#80 caught one over the middle and tried to muscle his body towards the first down yardage. He didn't get it, but the Panthers had to call in the cavalry because they were getting a Thrashing.
Was good to see.
#53 did a pretty good job I thought...
I want to see our OTHER kicker out there for the next game. Hopkins missed one extra point, and ALMOST missed another. The only kick that looked good was the short FG. - Was not good to see.
And Huntley did well considering he only just got a uniform...and must know that he's got no spot on the team unless multiple QB's get hurt.
It was a good start for Sanders with a lot of stuff to work on. One thing that would be nice is to see him WITH offensive teammates on the sidelines between series like a leader of men, which this position demands. He's a confident guy - he can do that.
We all saw the game so we saw why before the draft he was often discussed by some pretty well paid draft analysts as one of the best 2 QB prospects. 2 of those guys (McShay & Kiper) rarely agree on stuff except they both felt the same about Sanders. I'm not gonna get as silly as the media bandwagon that got rolling last night because there were bad habits that teams regular season opponents would game plan for. Inexperience even gave a guy like Josh Allen growing pains so it'll be interesting to see how this organization does with this whole situation. And YES both Deion & LeBron were out there in social media joining in on it.
As you can tell, I've been trying to ask people why they can't wait to spend a 1st round pick on a QB in 2026. Again, the MAIN reason Sanders wasn't drafted early by ANY of the teams that needed a QB was his father ran his mouth how many of them he didn't want his son to play for. He made some comment in social media they flashed yesterday that makes me understand why some guys are still going to be interested in the 2026 QBs.
Here's how I think I'm going to proceed. 1 week/game at a time. This week, it was nice to see him show the good stuff he's capable of doing. Remember when someone was previously pointing out the fluttering/wobbley passes? I laughed and called those Billy Kilmer spirals because a lot of them are accurate and completed. That said, 1 of his TD passes to Davis threaded the needle in the end zone with zip and a tight spiral. Actually both TD passes to the same guy had accurate tight spirals. What was the 1 thing the draft analysts that considered him as one of the top 2 QB prospects said? He's the most accurate QB in the draft class. He's good with the 3rd or 4th best TE so just imagine what he can accomplish with the 1st 2 very talented TEs. I want him confident, not cocky (like his dad is - because his dad always backed it up. He's not his dad yet and I like that.)
There's plenty to work on and we saw it. Those Jerome Ford like retreats way behind the line of scrimmage against the AFC North and other defenses could be show stoppers. The footwork has a lot of room for improvement. I Hopefully, the volume of QBs will decrease to the level he'll get more work. I hope the Browns do this like Bernie Kosar reminded people about his rookie year when Danielson started the first 5-6 games or so; and then he got to take over while Mack and Byner were both pacing themselves for over 1000 yards apiece on the ground. It's a little different era so maybe they could swap the experienced to less experienced starter even sooner IF Sanders builds on what we saw. Also keep in mind, Carolina was exactly world beaters last year so let's see what happens before I make any more statements like that.
There's the 1st World According to Wundumson called Flugel of the season; and I'm sticking to it...
It was a good start for Sanders with a lot of stuff to work on. One thing that would be nice is to see him WITH offensive teammates on the sidelines between series like a leader of men, which this position demands. He's a confident guy - he can do that.
We'll saw the game so we saw why before the draft he was often discussed by some pretty well paid draft analysts as one of the best 2 QB prospects. 2 of those guys (McShay & Kiper) rarely agree on stuff except they both felt the same about Sanders. I'm not gonna get as silly as the media bandwagon that got rolling last night because there were bad habits that teams regular season opponents would game plan for. Inexperience even gave a guy like Josh Allen growing pains so it'll be interesting to see how this organization does with this whole situation. And YES both Deion & LeBron were out there in social media joining in on it.
As you can tell, I've been trying to ask people why they can't wait to spend a 1st round pick on a QB in 2026. Again, the MAIN reason Sanders wasn't draft early by ANY of the teams that needed a QB was his father ran his mouth how many of them he didn't want his son to play for. He made some comment in social media they flashed yesterday that makes me understand why some guys are still going to be interested in the 2026 QBs.
Here's how I think I'm going to proceed. 1 week/game at a time. This week, it was nice to see him show the good stuff he's capable of doing. Remember someone pointing out the fluttering/wobbley passes? I laughed and called those Billy Kilmer spirals because a lot of them are accurate and completed. That said, 1 of his TD passes to Davis threaded the needle in the end zone with zip and a tight spiral. Actually both TD passes to the same guy had accurate tight spirals. What was the 1 thing the draft analysts that considered him on of the top 2 QB prospects said? He's the most accurate QB in the draft class. He's good with the 3rd or 4th best TE so just imagine what he can accomplish with the 1st 2 very talented TEs. I want him confident, not cocky (like his dad is - because his dad always backed it up. He's not his dad yet and I like that)
There's plenty to work on and we saw it. Those Jerome Ford like retreats way behind the line of scrimmage against the AFC North and other defenses could be show stoppers. The footwork has a lot of room for improvement. I Hopefully, the volume of QBs will decrease to the level he'll get more work. I hope the Browns do this like Bernie Kosar reminded people about his rookie year when Danielson started the first 5-6 games or so; and then he got to take over while Mack and Byner were both pacing themselves for over 1000 yards apiece on the ground. It's a little different era so maybe they could swap the experienced to less experienced starter even sooner IF Sanders builds on what we saw. Also keep in mind, Carolina was exactly world beaters last year so let's see what happens before I make any more statements like that.
There's the 1st World According to Wundumson called Flugel of the season; and I'm sticking to it...
I liked a lot of what I saw... Can't argue with any of the points you made.. But one area that concerns me.. He needs to tuck that ball in better when he's truckin it with his legs.. Experienced defenses will take advantage that.. We all know how important ball security is in this league.... I saw some great passes.. And some not so great... But the calm cool effort is there.. At times he reminded me of Lamar Jackson with just a bit better mechanics throwing wise.. And then I saw things that looked Bradyesque.. Nice debut.. But some rough edges needs to be polished like all rookies... But I gotta give credit where its due... But I also keep in mind.. It was the Panthers.... Another concern... Kevin still needs to do better controlling his players.. you can't have guys getting ejected.. Thats a reflection on him.. We need to see better discipline on that end ...
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