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  • @texasag1969 said:

    Well Cleveland already drafted another Aggie. But I posted it on the baseball board.?⚾

    I thought of you the second the pick was announced!

    @dutch-oven said:

    I thought of you the second the pick was announced!

    And rest assured he will be more like Garrett to baseball than he will be like JFF. He had horrible luck this year with 2 great hitters off by injuries so that they preferred walking or hitting him to actually throwing strikes. And the weather was horrible for games in Feb & March with high winds blowing in and cold taking the edge off well hit balls. I bet I saw 15 to 20 balls during those two months that normally would have easily cleared the fence but were either caught at the wall or just barely over the top, but caught since outfielders play him deep. He is also quite fast so center field is his ideal position. It will be fun to watch him break in with Cleveland. 

  • And Cleveland got A&M's best pitcher in the 9th round, Lefty Ryan Prager. Another who will first spend time in AA or AAA before eventual move to the Bigs.

  • And Cleveland got A&M's best pitcher in the 9th round, Lefty Ryan Prager. Another who will first spend time in AA or AAA before eventual move to the Bigs.

    @texasag1969 said:

    And Cleveland got A&M's best pitcher in the 9th round, Lefty Ryan Prager. Another who will first spend time in AA or AAA before eventual move to the Bigs.

    And eventually out of town to greener pastures.. For a bag of peanuts and a bench player to be named later

  •  I've been granted access to all-22 for certain teams from this past 2024 season.  It's a gift and I'm incredibly grateful for it, I just wish I had this sort of hook up 10 years ago.  The information you gather with this one tool is incredible.           Anywho... of those teams I have extensive footage on is Clemson and the other Texas.       

    I have every single Clemson game of Klubnik and all 3 of Arch's games.    

     Dove head first into the Klubnik against Georgia game.      Kid needs a ton of work - he's closer to being Matt Corral than he is Baker Mayfield.   Clemsons offense structures also weren't all that impressive,   but what was there wasn't taken full advantage of either.    It was a mental, physical and schematic ass kicking from start to finish.    

     Then I noticed a trend of losses over the course of two seasons and ran some numbers.   Cade Klubnik has beaten exactly ONE top 15 defense in his entire career - Notre Dame in 2023.  A game where Cade threw for a staggering 109 yards, Sam Hartman tossed two INT's and Phil Mafah, now with the Cowboys, had 36 carries for 186 yards.  

     Beyond that? Let's check 2023.

    Duke - Loss

    Florida State - Loss

    Miami - Loss 

    NC State - Loss

    2024

    Georgia - Big Loss 

    Louisville and their 64th total defense - Loss

    South Carolina - Loss

     I can't imagine any professional in the Browns organization looking ahead to their prep work for 2026 by position and just gushing over Klubnik.   Statistically, his profile is closer to Johnny Manziel's than his predecessors in Watson and Lawrence.    (Manziel also had one win against a top 25 defense his entire career, the other was against a Duke team just inside the top 50)  

     If leadership, "winner", "gamer" whatever are the preferred terms you like when evaluating a QB, I struggle to see how you'd like this kid.  

  • @dutch-oven said:

    So the above video gives five QBs the Browns could look at with one of their first rounders next draft (and guys we can watch in the upcoming college season).

    He ranks them:

    5. Allar, Penn State
    4. Fernando Mendoza, Indiana (who honestly I know nothing about, he transferred from Cal to Indiana for this coming season)
    3. Klubnick, Clemson
    2. Nussmeier, LSU
    1. Sellers , South Carolina 

    I like the Top 2 on this list.  
     

    Im watching Leavitt from ASU too. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I like the Top 2 on this list.  
     

    Im watching Leavitt from ASU too. 

    Me too.  I saw him one time last year when his pass pro was breaking down all over the place; and he was incredible at maintaining his poise and escaping the pressure, Even better, he still managed to complete the passes or run for 1st downs.  

  •  I've been granted access to all-22 for certain teams from this past 2024 season.  It's a gift and I'm incredibly grateful for it, I just wish I had this sort of hook up 10 years ago.  The information you gather with this one tool is incredible.           Anywho... of those teams I have extensive footage on is Clemson and the other Texas.       

    I have every single Clemson game of Klubnik and all 3 of Arch's games.    

     Dove head first into the Klubnik against Georgia game.      Kid needs a ton of work - he's closer to being Matt Corral than he is Baker Mayfield.   Clemsons offense structures also weren't all that impressive,   but what was there wasn't taken full advantage of either.    It was a mental, physical and schematic ass kicking from start to finish.    

     Then I noticed a trend of losses over the course of two seasons and ran some numbers.   Cade Klubnik has beaten exactly ONE top 15 defense in his entire career - Notre Dame in 2023.  A game where Cade threw for a staggering 109 yards, Sam Hartman tossed two INT's and Phil Mafah, now with the Cowboys, had 36 carries for 186 yards.  

     Beyond that? Let's check 2023.

    Duke - Loss

    Florida State - Loss

    Miami - Loss 

    NC State - Loss

    2024

    Georgia - Big Loss 

    Louisville and their 64th total defense - Loss

    South Carolina - Loss

     I can't imagine any professional in the Browns organization looking ahead to their prep work for 2026 by position and just gushing over Klubnik.   Statistically, his profile is closer to Johnny Manziel's than his predecessors in Watson and Lawrence.    (Manziel also had one win against a top 25 defense his entire career, the other was against a Duke team just inside the top 50)  

     If leadership, "winner", "gamer" whatever are the preferred terms you like when evaluating a QB, I struggle to see how you'd like this kid.  

    @tiamat63 said:

     I've been granted access to all-22 for certain teams from this past 2024 season.  It's a gift and I'm incredibly grateful for it, I just wish I had this sort of hook up 10 years ago.  The information you gather with this one tool is incredible.           Anywho... of those teams I have extensive footage on is Clemson and the other Texas.       

    I have every single Clemson game of Klubnik and all 3 of Arch's games.    

     Dove head first into the Klubnik against Georgia game.      Kid needs a ton of work - he's closer to being Matt Corral than he is Baker Mayfield.   Clemsons offense structures also weren't all that impressive,   but what was there wasn't taken full advantage of either.    It was a mental, physical and schematic ass kicking from start to finish.    

     Then I noticed a trend of losses over the course of two seasons and ran some numbers.   Cade Klubnik has beaten exactly ONE top 15 defense in his entire career - Notre Dame in 2023.  A game where Cade threw for a staggering 109 yards, Sam Hartman tossed two INT's and Phil Mafah, now with the Cowboys, had 36 carries for 186 yards.  

     Beyond that? Let's check 2023.

    Duke - Loss

    Florida State - Loss

    Miami - Loss 

    NC State - Loss

    2024

    Georgia - Big Loss 

    Louisville and their 64th total defense - Loss

    South Carolina - Loss

     I can't imagine any professional in the Browns organization looking ahead to their prep work for 2026 by position and just gushing over Klubnik.   Statistically, his profile is closer to Johnny Manziel's than his predecessors in Watson and Lawrence.    (Manziel also had one win against a top 25 defense his entire career, the other was against a Duke team just inside the top 50)  

     If leadership, "winner", "gamer" whatever are the preferred terms you like when evaluating a QB, I struggle to see how you'd like this kid.  

    1 very important trend as it relates to Clemson - when Kirby Smart arrived at UGA they started winning those post season games that previously alluded them. Consequently, Kirby started getting more of the top prospects in GA to join his football program at UGA.  Dabo Swinney/Clemson used get a lot of those recruits. As we've seen, Clemson hasn't been that same program that was a legit BCS team who could win it all.  I think they made the playoffs last year - but their chances of winning it all weren't any better than SMU's or Boise State's in a much bigger playoff pool. 

    This looks to be the best/most experienced group of Receivers Klubnik will be throwing to. Even better, they've already established their chemistry with Klub to build on in 2025.  Should be interesting... I've been critical of him too before this thread. If he needs to be an NFL Franchise messiah for an impatient owner like Jimmy - is he wired for that?   Just a reminder here, Cleveland has rarely had healthy/starting offensive tackles in recent years.  When anyone chooses to watch Klubnik - hopefully it will be matchups that can put heat on a passer to give you an idea of how he could handle NFL life in Cleveland.  Like you pointed out above with the defenses faced - will the ACC have enough of these defenses to challenge him?  

  • With two potential top ten picks, I'll be glued to the tube this college season watching potential Browns players in all different position groups. Browns will have needs everywhere. 

    Clemson looks loaded, has quite a few potential first rounders. 

    And what the hell is a Dabo?

  • With two potential top ten picks, I'll be glued to the tube this college season watching potential Browns players in all different position groups. Browns will have needs everywhere. 

    Clemson looks loaded, has quite a few potential first rounders. 

    And what the hell is a Dabo?

    @dutch-oven said:

    And what the hell is a Dabo?

    Spokesman for Brylcreem................................a little Dabo do ya.

  • In McShay’s new mock draft, Browns take a QB #1 and a DE/Edge #12.

  • In McShay’s new mock draft, Browns take a QB #1 and a DE/Edge #12.

    @dutch-oven said:

    In McShay’s new mock draft, Browns take a QB #1 and a DE/Edge #12.

    Let me guess.... Klubernick? 

  • In McShay’s new mock draft, Browns take a QB #1 and a DE/Edge #12.

    @dutch-oven said:

    In McShay’s new mock draft, Browns take a QB #1 and a DE/Edge #12.

    So which was ours and which was the Jags? Let me guess..................................we're #1.

  • ...just gonna say....waay too early.  But with two 1st round picks we can possibly make big progress in '26.  Or, we might have to package the 2 picks to move up near the top of the draft to reset the QB position yet again.   11 1/2 months of stuff in the way right now.  

    @orion said:

    ...just gonna say....waay too early.  But with two 1st round picks we can possibly make big progress in '26.  Or, we might have to package the 2 picks to move up near the top of the draft to reset the QB position yet again.   11 1/2 months of stuff in the way right now.  

    I don't know, but I hope not.  I am not even speaking in terms of one of our rookies balling out.

    If we need a QB i think we will be drafting high enough we won't need to take a big trade, at least one that involved another 1st rounder.

  • @orion said:

    ...just gonna say....waay too early.  But with two 1st round picks we can possibly make big progress in '26.  Or, we might have to package the 2 picks to move up near the top of the draft to reset the QB position yet again.   11 1/2 months of stuff in the way right now.  

    I don't know, but I hope not.  I am not even speaking in terms of one of our rookies balling out.

    If we need a QB i think we will be drafting high enough we won't need to take a big trade, at least one that involved another 1st rounder.

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't know, but I hope not.  I am not even speaking in terms of one of our rookies balling out.

    If we need a QB i think we will be drafting high enough we won't need to take a big trade, at least one that involved another 1st rounder.

    Yeah, they haven't exactly earned our trust with understanding exchange value or QBs just yet.  When they have 4 guys here - I'm not sure they even trust themselves...

  • @orion said:

    ...just gonna say....waay too early.  But with two 1st round picks we can possibly make big progress in '26.  Or, we might have to package the 2 picks to move up near the top of the draft to reset the QB position yet again.   11 1/2 months of stuff in the way right now.  

    I don't know, but I hope not.  I am not even speaking in terms of one of our rookies balling out.

    If we need a QB i think we will be drafting high enough we won't need to take a big trade, at least one that involved another 1st rounder.

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't know, but I hope not.  I am not even speaking in terms of one of our rookies balling out.

    If we need a QB i think we will be drafting high enough we won't need to take a big trade, at least one that involved another 1st rounder.

    As of today (and these things can always change, look at how Quinn Ewers stock dropped like a brick from this time last year to the 2025 Draft in April) but there's four or five guys that could very well be first round picks. I think you are right, there's a decent chance the Browns will draft high enough with their pick to have a top QB fall into their laps.

  • @ballpeen said:

    I don't know, but I hope not.  I am not even speaking in terms of one of our rookies balling out.

    If we need a QB i think we will be drafting high enough we won't need to take a big trade, at least one that involved another 1st rounder.

    As of today (and these things can always change, look at how Quinn Ewers stock dropped like a brick from this time last year to the 2025 Draft in April) but there's four or five guys that could very well be first round picks. I think you are right, there's a decent chance the Browns will draft high enough with their pick to have a top QB fall into their laps.

    @dutch-oven said:

    there's a decent chance the Browns will draft high enough with their pick to have a top QB fall into their laps.

    Yes, there's a decent chance.  Our Safety position isn't strong.  We lost a CB for the year.  And LB'er needs help.  But what has been our main problem?  QB, right?  But what if Flacco plays well?  Do we have a chance to get several wins?  We're hoping that our OL is improved with new coaching and healthy tackles.  We have a new RB room.  Perhaps Tillman, Thrash, Fannin Jr. will emerge.  It's not impossible that this team isn't half bad.   Just sayin'.

  • @ballpeen said:

    I don't know, but I hope not.  I am not even speaking in terms of one of our rookies balling out.

    If we need a QB i think we will be drafting high enough we won't need to take a big trade, at least one that involved another 1st rounder.

    As of today (and these things can always change, look at how Quinn Ewers stock dropped like a brick from this time last year to the 2025 Draft in April) but there's four or five guys that could very well be first round picks. I think you are right, there's a decent chance the Browns will draft high enough with their pick to have a top QB fall into their laps.

    @dutch-oven said:

    As of today (and these things can always change, look at how Quinn Ewers stock dropped like a brick from this time last year to the 2025 Draft in April) but there's four or five guys that could very well be first round picks. I think you are right, there's a decent chance the Browns will draft high enough with their pick to have a top QB fall into their laps.

    Tonight in Death Valley, there's 2 NFL QB prospects featured in the Clemson vrs LSU match-up. Okay, I'll start with an inconvenient truth that in order for Clemson to sign Cade Klubnik out of the state of Texas - it necessitated schools like Texas A&M to get the stiff arm and the stiff wind.  That wasn't Rain on the Scarecrow or blood on the plows - those were tear drops... Anyway, this is his 4th year with a talented and experienced Receiver Corps returning.  It's all lining up for him and Clemson on paper.  Time to step into his fate.  

    Having said that, let's put our American Pie hats on here.  Sometimes there's a kid that shows up to the party after the prom without a date.  Meanwhile - all his other buddies that rented limos, tuxes and purchased delicious meals for 2 also showed up to the same party.  The job at hand here is who can deliver the magic?  I gotta say only 1 kid tapped Stifler's mom and that was kid without a date - Finch. Just when it couldn't get any more outrageous - Stifler actually walked in on the naughty session.  That poor kid was already a train-wreck.  That's how you deliver the magic nobody will ever forget.  LSU QB Garrett Nussmeier has a tremendous opportunity to show up to the party hosted by Clemson tonight; and bring something that crowd and TV viewers will never forget. 

  •  Didn't watch it, but if Arch Manning is on there he's dropping like a stone.  

     Silver bullets are fucking him up and down the field. 

  •  Didn't watch it, but if Arch Manning is on there he's dropping like a stone.  

     Silver bullets are fucking him up and down the field. 

    @tiamat63 said:

     Didn't watch it, but if Arch Manning is on there he's dropping like a stone.  

     Silver bullets are fucking him up and down the field. 

    OSU is trying to give the game away now.

  • @tiamat63 said:

     Didn't watch it, but if Arch Manning is on there he's dropping like a stone.  

     Silver bullets are fucking him up and down the field. 

    OSU is trying to give the game away now.

    @texasag1969 said:

    OSU is trying to give the game away now.

    No sir. 
     

    If Ohio Stadium still had natural turf the groundskeepers would be replacing divots all over from all the worm burners Manning threw today