The Official Preseason Browns at Panthers Game Thread
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Schwesinger (#49) lead the team in tackles. 4 solo, 2 assists. Sanders had a 106.8 QB rating.
Schwesinger (#49) lead the team in tackles. 4 solo, 2 assists. Sanders had a 106.8 QB rating.
Schwesinger looked great. After watching him play, at one point, I realized he reminded me of Clay Mathews. Then I looked it up...Schwesinger is 6'2 1/2", 242 lbs. Clay - 6'2", 245. Both had great instincts.
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Schwesinger (#49) lead the team in tackles. 4 solo, 2 assists. Sanders had a 106.8 QB rating.
Schwesinger looked great. After watching him play, at one point, I realized he reminded me of Clay Mathews. Then I looked it up...Schwesinger is 6'2 1/2", 242 lbs. Clay - 6'2", 245. Both had great instincts.
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Go watch the movie Moneyball? Seriously?
Sorry man, that wasn't a documentary.
OK-then google "Does Depodesta help draft Browns football players?". You'll find an article where it documents his involvement with Berry and Stafanski in selecting the 2020 draft. I can't get my copy and paste working at the moment, so you'll have to find it. It's very clear he does.
OK-then google "Does Depodesta help draft Browns football players?". You'll find an article where it documents his involvement with Berry and Stafanski in selecting the 2020 draft. I can't get my copy and paste working at the moment, so you'll have to find it. It's very clear he does.
I believe you are referring to this article https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/how-kevin-stefanski-and-paul-depodesta-see-analytics-fitting-with-the-browns-new-vision.html?outputType=amp
Though it doesn't exactly fit the narrative
STEFANSKI ON ANALYTICS
“You know, I’m looking for any edge we can get, and certainly, I know analytics is another buzzword out there, but we’re looking to make informed decisions,” Stefanski said. “So, as a play caller or whether (it’s) player evaluation, information is power. We like to have a lot of information that informs our decisions. Our setup that we have in meeting without guys this morning was incredible. I think we’re well on our way where we can provide impactful information to our coaches, to our personnel department that can really, again, help the product in terms of wins and losses.”
Stefanski noted how, as an offensive coordinator with the Vikings, he’d meet with those in the analytics department to go over data that could suggest when an opposing defensive coordinator is more apt to blitz. That would be more information to add into the game plan.
“I can tell you, certain decisions that you make, whether it be for protection or when to run a certain play, you have that (data) in mind,” he said, “and you have some information that was able to be gathered by compiling that data. So I just think it’s another tool when it comes to play-calling or in personnel. It’s something the Vikings did, something I know the Browns do. It just provides more information. We have so much information, we have years of it, so let’s use it to our advantage.”
DEPODESTA ON ANALYTICS
“I think people have a really warped view of maybe what analytics is. I think I may have a different perception from what everybody else has,” DePodesta said. “When I think of analytics I just think of having a sort of framework to make decisions under uncertainty. Everything we do in these jobs is really built around uncertainty and what players we’re going to take in the draft, what we’re going to call on third-and-8. I mean, it’s all uncertainty, right? So what frameworks can you create that at least stacks the odds in your favor, gives you a better chance of being successful.”
DePodesta said it’s not necessarily about numbers of spreadsheets. In many ways, it’s about reinforcing what you’ve learned from other processes, such as a personality test backing up what references have told you about a potential coaching hire.
Any time I read hand ringing about "analytics" all I can think is do people know that stats are analytics.....
All using analytics are is adding objective measurements to subjective measurements in an effort to make the best/most informed decisions possible when there is a lot of unknowns.
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OK-then google "Does Depodesta help draft Browns football players?". You'll find an article where it documents his involvement with Berry and Stafanski in selecting the 2020 draft. I can't get my copy and paste working at the moment, so you'll have to find it. It's very clear he does.
I believe you are referring to this article https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/how-kevin-stefanski-and-paul-depodesta-see-analytics-fitting-with-the-browns-new-vision.html?outputType=amp
Though it doesn't exactly fit the narrative
STEFANSKI ON ANALYTICS
“You know, I’m looking for any edge we can get, and certainly, I know analytics is another buzzword out there, but we’re looking to make informed decisions,” Stefanski said. “So, as a play caller or whether (it’s) player evaluation, information is power. We like to have a lot of information that informs our decisions. Our setup that we have in meeting without guys this morning was incredible. I think we’re well on our way where we can provide impactful information to our coaches, to our personnel department that can really, again, help the product in terms of wins and losses.”
Stefanski noted how, as an offensive coordinator with the Vikings, he’d meet with those in the analytics department to go over data that could suggest when an opposing defensive coordinator is more apt to blitz. That would be more information to add into the game plan.
“I can tell you, certain decisions that you make, whether it be for protection or when to run a certain play, you have that (data) in mind,” he said, “and you have some information that was able to be gathered by compiling that data. So I just think it’s another tool when it comes to play-calling or in personnel. It’s something the Vikings did, something I know the Browns do. It just provides more information. We have so much information, we have years of it, so let’s use it to our advantage.”
DEPODESTA ON ANALYTICS
“I think people have a really warped view of maybe what analytics is. I think I may have a different perception from what everybody else has,” DePodesta said. “When I think of analytics I just think of having a sort of framework to make decisions under uncertainty. Everything we do in these jobs is really built around uncertainty and what players we’re going to take in the draft, what we’re going to call on third-and-8. I mean, it’s all uncertainty, right? So what frameworks can you create that at least stacks the odds in your favor, gives you a better chance of being successful.”
DePodesta said it’s not necessarily about numbers of spreadsheets. In many ways, it’s about reinforcing what you’ve learned from other processes, such as a personality test backing up what references have told you about a potential coaching hire.
Any time I read hand ringing about "analytics" all I can think is do people know that stats are analytics.....
All using analytics are is adding objective measurements to subjective measurements in an effort to make the best/most informed decisions possible when there is a lot of unknowns.
what frameworks can you create that at least stacks the odds in your favor, gives you a better chance of being successful.”
So, in other words, when your choice is 4th and 11 from the 30...and Hopkins is your kicker...then you might as well go for the 12 yard pass.
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
OK-then google "Does Depodesta help draft Browns football players?". You'll find an article where it documents his involvement with Berry and Stafanski in selecting the 2020 draft. I can't get my copy and paste working at the moment, so you'll have to find it. It's very clear he does.
I believe you are referring to this article https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/how-kevin-stefanski-and-paul-depodesta-see-analytics-fitting-with-the-browns-new-vision.html?outputType=amp
Though it doesn't exactly fit the narrative
STEFANSKI ON ANALYTICS
“You know, I’m looking for any edge we can get, and certainly, I know analytics is another buzzword out there, but we’re looking to make informed decisions,” Stefanski said. “So, as a play caller or whether (it’s) player evaluation, information is power. We like to have a lot of information that informs our decisions. Our setup that we have in meeting without guys this morning was incredible. I think we’re well on our way where we can provide impactful information to our coaches, to our personnel department that can really, again, help the product in terms of wins and losses.”
Stefanski noted how, as an offensive coordinator with the Vikings, he’d meet with those in the analytics department to go over data that could suggest when an opposing defensive coordinator is more apt to blitz. That would be more information to add into the game plan.
“I can tell you, certain decisions that you make, whether it be for protection or when to run a certain play, you have that (data) in mind,” he said, “and you have some information that was able to be gathered by compiling that data. So I just think it’s another tool when it comes to play-calling or in personnel. It’s something the Vikings did, something I know the Browns do. It just provides more information. We have so much information, we have years of it, so let’s use it to our advantage.”
DEPODESTA ON ANALYTICS
“I think people have a really warped view of maybe what analytics is. I think I may have a different perception from what everybody else has,” DePodesta said. “When I think of analytics I just think of having a sort of framework to make decisions under uncertainty. Everything we do in these jobs is really built around uncertainty and what players we’re going to take in the draft, what we’re going to call on third-and-8. I mean, it’s all uncertainty, right? So what frameworks can you create that at least stacks the odds in your favor, gives you a better chance of being successful.”
DePodesta said it’s not necessarily about numbers of spreadsheets. In many ways, it’s about reinforcing what you’ve learned from other processes, such as a personality test backing up what references have told you about a potential coaching hire.
Any time I read hand ringing about "analytics" all I can think is do people know that stats are analytics.....
All using analytics are is adding objective measurements to subjective measurements in an effort to make the best/most informed decisions possible when there is a lot of unknowns.
I believe you are referring to this article https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/how-kevin-stefanski-and-paul-depodesta-see-analytics-fitting-with-the-browns-new-vision.html?outputType=amp
Though it doesn't exactly fit the narrative
That isn't it. Make sure you link in Depodesta and involved in Browns draft when you ask google. Or type in "Should Paul Depodesta be involved in the Browns draft"
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So, in other words, when your choice is 4th and 11 from the 30...and Hopkins is your kicker...then you might as well go for the 12 yard pass.
You know what sucks? I thought Hopkins was having an awesome season place kicking that year he tore his hammy near the end trying prevent a KO return for a TD. We haven't seen the same guy since.
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OK-then google "Does Depodesta help draft Browns football players?". You'll find an article where it documents his involvement with Berry and Stafanski in selecting the 2020 draft. I can't get my copy and paste working at the moment, so you'll have to find it. It's very clear he does.
I believe you are referring to this article https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/how-kevin-stefanski-and-paul-depodesta-see-analytics-fitting-with-the-browns-new-vision.html?outputType=amp
Though it doesn't exactly fit the narrative
STEFANSKI ON ANALYTICS
“You know, I’m looking for any edge we can get, and certainly, I know analytics is another buzzword out there, but we’re looking to make informed decisions,” Stefanski said. “So, as a play caller or whether (it’s) player evaluation, information is power. We like to have a lot of information that informs our decisions. Our setup that we have in meeting without guys this morning was incredible. I think we’re well on our way where we can provide impactful information to our coaches, to our personnel department that can really, again, help the product in terms of wins and losses.”
Stefanski noted how, as an offensive coordinator with the Vikings, he’d meet with those in the analytics department to go over data that could suggest when an opposing defensive coordinator is more apt to blitz. That would be more information to add into the game plan.
“I can tell you, certain decisions that you make, whether it be for protection or when to run a certain play, you have that (data) in mind,” he said, “and you have some information that was able to be gathered by compiling that data. So I just think it’s another tool when it comes to play-calling or in personnel. It’s something the Vikings did, something I know the Browns do. It just provides more information. We have so much information, we have years of it, so let’s use it to our advantage.”
DEPODESTA ON ANALYTICS
“I think people have a really warped view of maybe what analytics is. I think I may have a different perception from what everybody else has,” DePodesta said. “When I think of analytics I just think of having a sort of framework to make decisions under uncertainty. Everything we do in these jobs is really built around uncertainty and what players we’re going to take in the draft, what we’re going to call on third-and-8. I mean, it’s all uncertainty, right? So what frameworks can you create that at least stacks the odds in your favor, gives you a better chance of being successful.”
DePodesta said it’s not necessarily about numbers of spreadsheets. In many ways, it’s about reinforcing what you’ve learned from other processes, such as a personality test backing up what references have told you about a potential coaching hire.
Any time I read hand ringing about "analytics" all I can think is do people know that stats are analytics.....
All using analytics are is adding objective measurements to subjective measurements in an effort to make the best/most informed decisions possible when there is a lot of unknowns.
I believe you are referring to this article https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2020/01/how-kevin-stefanski-and-paul-depodesta-see-analytics-fitting-with-the-browns-new-vision.html?outputType=amp
Though it doesn't exactly fit the narrative
STEFANSKI ON ANALYTICS
“You know, I’m looking for any edge we can get, and certainly, I know analytics is another buzzword out there, but we’re looking to make informed decisions,” Stefanski said. “So, as a play caller or whether (it’s) player evaluation, information is power. We like to have a lot of information that informs our decisions. Our setup that we have in meeting without guys this morning was incredible. I think we’re well on our way where we can provide impactful information to our coaches, to our personnel department that can really, again, help the product in terms of wins and losses.”
Stefanski noted how, as an offensive coordinator with the Vikings, he’d meet with those in the analytics department to go over data that could suggest when an opposing defensive coordinator is more apt to blitz. That would be more information to add into the game plan.
“I can tell you, certain decisions that you make, whether it be for protection or when to run a certain play, you have that (data) in mind,” he said, “and you have some information that was able to be gathered by compiling that data. So I just think it’s another tool when it comes to play-calling or in personnel. It’s something the Vikings did, something I know the Browns do. It just provides more information. We have so much information, we have years of it, so let’s use it to our advantage.”
DEPODESTA ON ANALYTICS
“I think people have a really warped view of maybe what analytics is. I think I may have a different perception from what everybody else has,” DePodesta said. “When I think of analytics I just think of having a sort of framework to make decisions under uncertainty. Everything we do in these jobs is really built around uncertainty and what players we’re going to take in the draft, what we’re going to call on third-and-8. I mean, it’s all uncertainty, right? So what frameworks can you create that at least stacks the odds in your favor, gives you a better chance of being successful.”
DePodesta said it’s not necessarily about numbers of spreadsheets. In many ways, it’s about reinforcing what you’ve learned from other processes, such as a personality test backing up what references have told you about a potential coaching hire.
Any time I read hand ringing about "analytics" all I can think is do people know that stats are analytics.....
All using analytics are is adding objective measurements to subjective measurements in an effort to make the best/most informed decisions possible when there is a lot of unknowns.
I'm old school in the sense that there's nothing better to analyze than film. It gives you the why things happen on merely every play. It gives you situational tendencies of opponents.
This franchise made a REAL bold move going after Watson. At first it made sense UNTIL it was crystal clear they never really identified WHY he was so gotta-have that they played leap frog with unicorns around the enormous red flags about his character. 3 years into Watson being here - the Browns were still hiring and firing offensive coaches that were going to help design a more appropriate fit to Watson's skillset (THAT THEY NEVER IDENTIFIED ON FILM).
He made 2 or 3 Pro Bowls in Houston leading them to the playoffs twice inclusive of erasing a late 4th quarter deficit against Josh Allen & the Bills. There were things he was good at on film that the Browns just never identified. One could argue that the mental/psychological side of it were even bigger barriers. Whatever it may be - the Browns never showed anyone what it was they thought made him so gotta have. Houston knew what they wanted from him; and got it until they also learned what they didn't want. And, of course, here comes the Browns FO and Jimmy.
All that to say, the best informed decisions specific to your opponent have always come from film study. That's why Paul Brown was who he was at every level he coached. As far as what a HC wants to do choosing between going for it or kicking for points or punting it away for field position - coaches have always developed their strategies based on their personnel often inclusive of what they're up against (which again requires film for vulnerabilities to exploit or why punting/kicking is the better option). Hope some of that made sense.
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I was at Blossom last night taking in a concert, so I couldn’t watch the game.
I just finished watching the replay on NFL Network, and I agree with you.
Let’s not overreact, we’re Browns fans and we’ve seen this before in preseason.
Good idea CD. 1 week at a time. The regular season is a whole different ball game - where opponents will be prepared with what they want to exploit as well as knowing the Browns offensive tendencies.
I don't know if many of our fans are old enough to remember the preseason heroics of Eric Zeier; but when the Browns had to use him in the regular season... He didn't look anything like the QB he was exciting people with his preseason performances.
Here's his 1st 2 years in the NFL showing the 1st season with the Browns:
Good idea CD. 1 week at a time. The regular season is a whole different ball game - where opponents will be prepared with what they want to exploit as well as knowing the Browns offensive tendencies.
I don't know if many of our fans are old enough to remember the preseason heroics of Eric Zeier; but when the Browns had to use him in the regular season... He didn't look anything like the QB he was exciting people with his preseason performances.
Here's his 1st 2 years in the NFL showing the 1st season with the Browns:
I mean by comparison, Kyle Allen of the Lions went 7/8 for 120 yards with 2 TD’s in basically one quarter of football. Should he be crowned league MVP? ?
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Good idea CD. 1 week at a time. The regular season is a whole different ball game - where opponents will be prepared with what they want to exploit as well as knowing the Browns offensive tendencies.
I don't know if many of our fans are old enough to remember the preseason heroics of Eric Zeier; but when the Browns had to use him in the regular season... He didn't look anything like the QB he was exciting people with his preseason performances.
Here's his 1st 2 years in the NFL showing the 1st season with the Browns:
I mean by comparison, Kyle Allen of the Lions went 7/8 for 120 yards with 2 TD’s in basically one quarter of football. Should he be crowned league MVP? ?
I mean by comparison, Kyle Allen of the Lions went 7/8 for 120 yards with 2 TD’s in basically one quarter of football. Should he be crowned league MVP? ?
Absolutely!! Aggie head Coach and Aggie QB.....................................Absolutely!!???
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