5 QB’s In The Room
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There's 1 unpredictable factor in all this. Who's going to have longer early on growing pains? Steve Young got chased out of Tampa Bay by a media that caught Bill Walsh's attention in SF. Steve Young is a HOF QB today.
Buffalo had a plan for Josh Allen so they were actually ready to see growing pains they knew they could coach him out of rather than knee-jerk to a lesser talented guy that hopes to be a career back-up at best. Some young QBs get it immediately - others take longer. That ain't new! It is the problem this time of year; especially on a team divvying up reps between 4 QBs. I'd say 5 QBs ; but Pickett's pulled muscle has Huntley getting his reps for now. While I don't think (maybe just wishfully) Sanders is as bad as his performance was yesterday - that means I also need to acknowledge he isn't as good as his 1st performance was. What I mean is if he gets decent protection and there's a solid running game prong in the balance - I've seen him play well.
We've only seen both rookies twice. I've said it before and I'll say it again - I want them both to do well. My guess is if our FO wants to prove their plan is right especially after they played a big role in giving up everything for Watson - they were very happy our fans got to see what they saw yesterday. As someone once reminded us - their plan is Gabriel; but you might have to fact check me on the "once" thing...
I completely agree.. You said it all better than I did.. My reason for going Gabriel is simple... He takes what the defense gives him. No he doesn't have an arm like Daryl LaMonica or Jay Schreoder. But he played against better teams in college.. He processes things lightening fast.. I'm not down on Sanders (Despite what others may think).. He's basically a good kid with a lot in front of him to learn.. And as long as Daddy stays away.. He has a chance to be exceptional under the right circumstances... I still think regardless of what happens.. My hunch is Jimmy has a big boner for Arch.. The jury is still out and time will tell on that one...
I completely agree.. You said it all better than I did.. My reason for going Gabriel is simple... He takes what the defense gives him. No he doesn't have an arm like Daryl LaMonica or Jay Schreoder. But he played against better teams in college.. He processes things lightening fast.. I'm not down on Sanders (Despite what others may think).. He's basically a good kid with a lot in front of him to learn.. And as long as Daddy stays away.. He has a chance to be exceptional under the right circumstances... I still think regardless of what happens.. My hunch is Jimmy has a big boner for Arch.. The jury is still out and time will tell on that one...
Well said! If the Manning family was happy Peyton decided to return to UT for his senior year to 1 more full year of experience - my guess is they will want the much less experienced Arch to return to Texas in 2026 (while earning millions of $ doing so). As much as the Mannings like and appreciate Jimmy for what he helped set up for Peyton at UT, they're not about to get clumsy at thought with Jimmy's NFL history with the QB position. It's already being speculated that Arch will return to Texas in 2026 by some draft analysts already reluctant to list him as a 1st round QB prospect in 2026 draft class. That COULD change I suppose if Texas wins a Natty.
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I completely agree.. You said it all better than I did.. My reason for going Gabriel is simple... He takes what the defense gives him. No he doesn't have an arm like Daryl LaMonica or Jay Schreoder. But he played against better teams in college.. He processes things lightening fast.. I'm not down on Sanders (Despite what others may think).. He's basically a good kid with a lot in front of him to learn.. And as long as Daddy stays away.. He has a chance to be exceptional under the right circumstances... I still think regardless of what happens.. My hunch is Jimmy has a big boner for Arch.. The jury is still out and time will tell on that one...
Well said! If the Manning family was happy Peyton decided to return to UT for his senior year to 1 more full year of experience - my guess is they will want the much less experienced Arch to return to Texas in 2026 (while earning millions of $ doing so). As much as the Mannings like and appreciate Jimmy for what he helped set up for Peyton at UT, they're not about to get clumsy at thought with Jimmy's NFL history with the QB position. It's already being speculated that Arch will return to Texas in 2026 by some draft analysts already reluctant to list him as a 1st round QB prospect in 2026 draft class. That COULD change I suppose if Texas wins a Natty.
Well said! If the Manning family was happy Peyton decided to return to UT for his senior year to 1 more full year of experience - my guess is they will want the much less experienced Arch to return to Texas in 2026 (while earning millions of $ doing so). As much as the Mannings like and appreciate Jimmy for what he helped set up for Peyton at UT, they're not about to get clumsy at thought with Jimmy's NFL history with the QB position. It's already being speculated that Arch will return to Texas in 2026 by some draft analysts already reluctant to list him as a 1st round QB prospect in 2026 draft class. That COULD change I suppose if Texas wins a Natty.
He'll make more $$ in 2026 if he returns, but risks the long term $$ if he doesn't come out and take the guaranteed money.
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DTR was released by the Eagles yesterday. I don’t think that surprises anyone.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Reading that shed sander has an average time to throw of 3.96 seconds ..the highest by any rooking since PFF began tracking the stat in 2013.
Other notables
Tim Tebow 3.46
Justin Fields 3.50
Malik Willis 3.72
Reading that shed sander has an average time to throw of 3.96 seconds ..the highest by any rooking since PFF began tracking the stat in 2013.
Other notables
Tim Tebow 3.46
Justin Fields 3.50
Malik Willis 3.72
Of his first 6 throws, 4 are absolutely on shedeur. The OL wasn't incredible, but when I have side by side footage of Shedeur and Gabriel, with the latter properly executing the concepts decisively... it should be very cut and dry that he had a rough day.
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DTR was released by the Eagles yesterday. I don’t think that surprises anyone.
DTR was released by the Eagles yesterday. I don’t think that surprises anyone.
Berry will find a way to bring him back.
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DTR was released by the Eagles yesterday. I don’t think that surprises anyone.
Berry will find a way to bring him back.
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Reading that shed sander has an average time to throw of 3.96 seconds ..the highest by any rooking since PFF began tracking the stat in 2013.
Other notables
Tim Tebow 3.46
Justin Fields 3.50
Malik Willis 3.72
Of his first 6 throws, 4 are absolutely on shedeur. The OL wasn't incredible, but when I have side by side footage of Shedeur and Gabriel, with the latter properly executing the concepts decisively... it should be very cut and dry that he had a rough day.
Of his first 6 throws, 4 are absolutely on shedeur. The OL wasn't incredible, but when I have side by side footage of Shedeur and Gabriel, with the latter properly executing the concepts decisively... it should be very cut and dry that he had a rough day.
He played like someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the offense.
He reminded me of Baker in his second season, when defenses made adjustments to him and it was on record that he put in little work in the off-season leading into the season. The second either thinks their might be pressure, they haul ass out of the pocket and all hell breaks loose.
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The guy who traded him away?
Any other Berry in the FO?
I hope you understand I wasn't serious with that comment...at least 100%, but I am a bit down on Berry. I wouldn't be 100% shocked if he did.
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Of his first 6 throws, 4 are absolutely on shedeur. The OL wasn't incredible, but when I have side by side footage of Shedeur and Gabriel, with the latter properly executing the concepts decisively... it should be very cut and dry that he had a rough day.
He played like someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the offense.
He reminded me of Baker in his second season, when defenses made adjustments to him and it was on record that he put in little work in the off-season leading into the season. The second either thinks their might be pressure, they haul ass out of the pocket and all hell breaks loose.
He played like someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the offense.
He reminded me of Baker in his second season, when defenses made adjustments to him and it was on record that he put in little work in the off-season leading into the season. The second either thinks their might be pressure, they haul ass out of the pocket and all hell breaks loose.
The bulk of the time it was either him not starting his eyes in the right places. In one throw he was late to his third and in another he came off of his primary too quick after his slow processing removed his outlet throws on previous drives.
When he did have the read, the OL wasn't up to the task. On 6 throws, I count twice. So thats 2/3 on the rookie, 1/3 on the OL.
He had his eyes in the wrong places a few times in game 1. But his scrambling allowed him to work off script. The Rams flipped that script and this is what you got.
The Baker association doesn't feel like it's about not knowing the offense, but it does remind me of a direct quote from Baker who was talking about his improvement as a QB in year 3- the biggest was where he said he was starting his eyes. This is a shit ton like that.
But the media blame is the bigger issue. We're so quick to blame and say it's either this or that. It's a little bit of everything. A rookie having a really off game, an Oline that struggles every few snaps. Struggling to find rhythm or something good. I know that doesn't drum up the bias and arguments like people want, everything is an Us v Them narrative and it's shameful on top of being fucking exhausting.
What I watching from the offense under Shedeur reminded me of a clip from the Replacements...
I see people playing hard, but not technical, not sound and not smart. You're fighting hard and being buried.
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Well question is when will they cut/trade in Watson?!
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He played like someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the offense.
He reminded me of Baker in his second season, when defenses made adjustments to him and it was on record that he put in little work in the off-season leading into the season. The second either thinks their might be pressure, they haul ass out of the pocket and all hell breaks loose.
The bulk of the time it was either him not starting his eyes in the right places. In one throw he was late to his third and in another he came off of his primary too quick after his slow processing removed his outlet throws on previous drives.
When he did have the read, the OL wasn't up to the task. On 6 throws, I count twice. So thats 2/3 on the rookie, 1/3 on the OL.
He had his eyes in the wrong places a few times in game 1. But his scrambling allowed him to work off script. The Rams flipped that script and this is what you got.
The Baker association doesn't feel like it's about not knowing the offense, but it does remind me of a direct quote from Baker who was talking about his improvement as a QB in year 3- the biggest was where he said he was starting his eyes. This is a shit ton like that.
But the media blame is the bigger issue. We're so quick to blame and say it's either this or that. It's a little bit of everything. A rookie having a really off game, an Oline that struggles every few snaps. Struggling to find rhythm or something good. I know that doesn't drum up the bias and arguments like people want, everything is an Us v Them narrative and it's shameful on top of being fucking exhausting.
What I watching from the offense under Shedeur reminded me of a clip from the Replacements...
I see people playing hard, but not technical, not sound and not smart. You're fighting hard and being buried.
But the media blame is the bigger issue. We're so quick to blame and say it's either this or that. It's a little bit of everything. A rookie having a really off game, an Oline that struggles every few snaps. Struggling to find rhythm or something good. I know that doesn't drum up the bias and arguments like people want, everything is an Us v Them narrative and it's shameful on top of being fucking exhausting.
What I watching from the offense under Shedeur reminded me of a clip from the Replacements...
I see people playing hard, but not technical, not sound and not smart. You're fighting hard and being buried.
Oh you meant those Replacements? Really well said.
For our O-line protecting our 40 year old QB, this one goes out to you.
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Probably next offseason
Maybe. Depends on if they can and want to take the massive dead cap hit in 2026.
Ain't no team trading for him with his contract
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Probably next offseason
Maybe. Depends on if they can and want to take the massive dead cap hit in 2026.
Ain't no team trading for him with his contract
Maybe. Depends on if they can and want to take the massive dead cap hit in 2026.
Ain't no team trading for him with his contract
That is true, there isn't a team that's touching him with THAT contract.
I won't lie and say I understand the ins and outs of the salary cap, Unsympathetic is good with that. I do think that next year the Browns will be paying their other QBs very little (possibly the QB room in 2026 is three guys on rookie contracts) so with Watson being on his last season of his contract next off-season, they might just bite the bullet.
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Gabriel named #2 ...like anyone cares. Just a play to fire up the sanders crowd.
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interesting
interesting
Perfect. The Emergency QB designation. And if they want Sanders to go in at the end of a blow-out and just mop-up, they'll just have Flacco & Gabriel run up to an official, swear their heads off at him, and get ejected.
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