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  • @canton-dawg said:

    DTR was released by the Eagles yesterday. I don’t think that surprises anyone.

    Berry will find a way to bring him back.

    @ballpeen said:

    Berry will find a way to bring him back.

    The guy who traded him away? 

  • @kvoethe said:

    Reading that shed sander has an average time to throw of 3.96 seconds ..the highest by any rooking since PFF began tracking the stat in 2013.

    Other notables

    Tim Tebow 3.46

    Justin Fields 3.50

    Malik Willis 3.72

    Of his first 6 throws, 4 are absolutely on shedeur.  The OL wasn't incredible, but when I have side by side footage of Shedeur and Gabriel, with the latter properly executing the concepts decisively...  it should be very cut and dry that he had a rough day. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Of his first 6 throws, 4 are absolutely on shedeur.  The OL wasn't incredible, but when I have side by side footage of Shedeur and Gabriel, with the latter properly executing the concepts decisively...  it should be very cut and dry that he had a rough day. 

    He played like someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the offense.

    He reminded me of Baker in his second season, when defenses made adjustments to him and it was on record that he put in little work in the off-season leading into the season. The second either thinks their might be pressure, they haul ass out of the pocket and all hell breaks loose.

  • @ballpeen said:

    Berry will find a way to bring him back.

    The guy who traded him away? 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The guy who traded him away? 

    Any other Berry in the FO?

    I hope you understand I wasn't serious with that comment...at least 100%, but I am a bit down on Berry.  I wouldn't be 100% shocked if he did.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Of his first 6 throws, 4 are absolutely on shedeur.  The OL wasn't incredible, but when I have side by side footage of Shedeur and Gabriel, with the latter properly executing the concepts decisively...  it should be very cut and dry that he had a rough day. 

    He played like someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the offense.

    He reminded me of Baker in his second season, when defenses made adjustments to him and it was on record that he put in little work in the off-season leading into the season. The second either thinks their might be pressure, they haul ass out of the pocket and all hell breaks loose.

    @dutch-oven said:

    He played like someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the offense.

    He reminded me of Baker in his second season, when defenses made adjustments to him and it was on record that he put in little work in the off-season leading into the season. The second either thinks their might be pressure, they haul ass out of the pocket and all hell breaks loose.

    The bulk of the time it was either him not starting his eyes in the right places. In one throw he was late to his third and in another he came off of his primary too quick after his slow processing removed his outlet throws on previous drives.  

     When he did have the read, the OL wasn't up to the task.   On 6 throws, I count twice.  So thats 2/3 on the rookie, 1/3 on the OL.   

     He had his eyes in the wrong places a few times in game 1.  But his scrambling allowed him to work off script. The Rams flipped that script and this is what you got. 

     The Baker association doesn't feel like it's about not knowing the offense, but it does remind me of a direct quote from Baker who was talking about his improvement as a QB in year 3- the biggest was where he said he was starting his eyes.  This is a shit ton like that.  

    But the media blame is the bigger issue.  We're so quick to blame and say it's either this or that.  It's a little bit of everything.  A rookie having a really off game, an Oline that struggles every few snaps. Struggling to find rhythm or something good.   I know that doesn't drum up the bias and arguments like people want, everything is an Us v Them narrative and it's shameful on top of being fucking exhausting. 

     What I watching from the offense under Shedeur reminded me of a clip from the Replacements...

     I see people playing hard, but not technical, not sound and not smart.  You're fighting hard and being buried. 

  • Well question is when will they cut/trade in Watson?! 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    He played like someone who doesn't have a good grasp of the offense.

    He reminded me of Baker in his second season, when defenses made adjustments to him and it was on record that he put in little work in the off-season leading into the season. The second either thinks their might be pressure, they haul ass out of the pocket and all hell breaks loose.

    The bulk of the time it was either him not starting his eyes in the right places. In one throw he was late to his third and in another he came off of his primary too quick after his slow processing removed his outlet throws on previous drives.  

     When he did have the read, the OL wasn't up to the task.   On 6 throws, I count twice.  So thats 2/3 on the rookie, 1/3 on the OL.   

     He had his eyes in the wrong places a few times in game 1.  But his scrambling allowed him to work off script. The Rams flipped that script and this is what you got. 

     The Baker association doesn't feel like it's about not knowing the offense, but it does remind me of a direct quote from Baker who was talking about his improvement as a QB in year 3- the biggest was where he said he was starting his eyes.  This is a shit ton like that.  

    But the media blame is the bigger issue.  We're so quick to blame and say it's either this or that.  It's a little bit of everything.  A rookie having a really off game, an Oline that struggles every few snaps. Struggling to find rhythm or something good.   I know that doesn't drum up the bias and arguments like people want, everything is an Us v Them narrative and it's shameful on top of being fucking exhausting. 

     What I watching from the offense under Shedeur reminded me of a clip from the Replacements...

     I see people playing hard, but not technical, not sound and not smart.  You're fighting hard and being buried. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    But the media blame is the bigger issue.  We're so quick to blame and say it's either this or that.  It's a little bit of everything.  A rookie having a really off game, an Oline that struggles every few snaps. Struggling to find rhythm or something good.   I know that doesn't drum up the bias and arguments like people want, everything is an Us v Them narrative and it's shameful on top of being fucking exhausting. 

     What I watching from the offense under Shedeur reminded me of a clip from the Replacements...

     I see people playing hard, but not technical, not sound and not smart.  You're fighting hard and being buried. 

    Oh you meant those Replacements? Really well said.

    For our O-line protecting our 40 year old QB, this one goes out to you.

  • Well question is when will they cut/trade in Watson?! 

    @jppt1974 said:

    Well question is when will they cut/trade in Watson?! 

    Probably next offseason 

  • @jppt1974 said:

    Well question is when will they cut/trade in Watson?! 

    Probably next offseason 

    @dutch-oven said:

    Probably next offseason 

    Maybe.  Depends on if they can and want to take the massive dead cap hit in 2026.  

    Ain't no team trading for him with his contract 

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Probably next offseason 

    Maybe.  Depends on if they can and want to take the massive dead cap hit in 2026.  

    Ain't no team trading for him with his contract 

    @reality said:

    Maybe.  Depends on if they can and want to take the massive dead cap hit in 2026.  

    Ain't no team trading for him with his contract 

    That is true, there isn't a team that's touching him with THAT contract. 

    I won't lie and say I understand the ins and outs of the salary cap, Unsympathetic is good with that. I do think that next year the Browns will be paying their other QBs very little (possibly the QB room in 2026 is three guys on rookie contracts) so with Watson being on his last season of his contract next off-season, they might just bite the bullet. 

  • Gabriel named #2 ...like anyone cares.  Just a play to fire up the sanders crowd.

  • Gabriel named #2 ...like anyone cares.  Just a play to fire up the sanders crowd.

    @kvoethe said:

    Gabriel named #2

    The logical choice.  He's actually been the #2 since Pickett got hurt.  

  • @syd said:

    interesting

    Perfect.  The Emergency QB designation.  And if they want Sanders to go in at the end of a blow-out and just mop-up, they'll just have Flacco & Gabriel run up to an official, swear their heads off at him, and get ejected.  🙂  

  • Gabriel changed his number from 5 to 8.  I didn't like #5.  I've never been a huge fan of #8 either.....but if you turn it on it's side then it's infinity....which is cool.  🙂 

  • Gabriel changed his number from 5 to 8.  I didn't like #5.  I've never been a huge fan of #8 either.....but if you turn it on it's side then it's infinity....which is cool.  🙂 

    @orion said:

    Gabriel changed his number from 5 to 8.  I didn't like #5.  I've never been a huge fan of #8 either.....but if you turn it on it's side then it's infinity....which is cool.  🙂 

    I was kind of surprised that there wasn’t a run on quarterbacks wearing 16 after Montana retired back in the day, but Jake Plummer is the only guy I remember. 

  • @orion said:

    Gabriel changed his number from 5 to 8.  I didn't like #5.  I've never been a huge fan of #8 either.....but if you turn it on it's side then it's infinity....which is cool.  🙂 

    I was kind of surprised that there wasn’t a run on quarterbacks wearing 16 after Montana retired back in the day, but Jake Plummer is the only guy I remember. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I was kind of surprised that there wasn’t a run on quarterbacks wearing 16 after Montana retired back in the day, but Jake Plummer is the only guy I remember. 

    And I'm surprised we haven't had a run on #2!!?

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I was kind of surprised that there wasn’t a run on quarterbacks wearing 16 after Montana retired back in the day, but Jake Plummer is the only guy I remember. 

    And I'm surprised we haven't had a run on #2!!?

    @texasag1969 said:

    And I'm surprised we haven't had a run on #2!!?

    That's good.  That famous T-shirt listing all the QBs that failed in Cleveland since the 80s has so many names on it now that it prolly comes in Tent Sizes.  

  • Flacco, Gabriel, Sanders. Zappe ends up #3 and Sanders gets traded for a bag of practice balls. 

  • Flacco, Gabriel, Sanders. Zappe ends up #3 and Sanders gets traded for a bag of practice balls. 

    @darkside5 said:

    Zappe ends up #3 and Sanders gets traded for a bag of practice balls.

    I don't think that we really know how much Sanders sucks.  But we DO KNOW how much Zappe sucks.  

  • Looking at our schedule...I'm thinking that Gabriel starts game 6 at Pittsburgh.  (unless they want to give him his 1st start at home...which would be week 7)