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    @nickers said:

    A couple generations of sissies were raised... We need to bring those drills back... Less injuries would happen..

    I agree, 100%, that a lack of hitting has deconditioned football players.

    In HS, we were hitting in full pads Mon-Wed and for pre-game on Thursday had no pads and no helmets. 

    In College, we were in full pads, were hitting and were allowed to go to the ground on Tuesday and Wednesday. Thursday was Shells, Shoulder Pads and Helmets and we went to thud. As the season progressed, the quicker got quicker and quicker.

    But I absolutely agree. Football players do not hit enough...easy for me to say as an IOL. But we hit in individual drills, we hit in inside run, we were allowed to go to the ground on 1/1. I remember one teammate getting a concussion in four years of high school and probably 1-2 per season in college. But it didn't happen alot. 

    @ap1 said:

    I agree, 100%, that a lack of hitting has deconditioned football players.

    In HS, we were hitting in full pads Mon-Wed and for pre-game on Thursday had no pads and no helmets. 

    In College, we were in full pads, we're hitting and we're allowed to go to the ground on Tuesday and Wednesday. Thursday was Shells, Shoulder Pads and Helmets and we went to thud. As the season progressed, the quicker got quicker and quicker.

    But I absolutely agree. Football players do not hit enough...easy foe me to say as an IOL. But we hit in individual drills, we hit in inside run, we were allowed to go to the ground on 1/1. I remember one teammate getting a concussion in four years of high school and probably 1-2 per season in college. But it didn't happen alot. 

    These kids today are coddled little bitches... They get so much as a hang nail they go to the bench.. They used to punch , kick and pile up on Jim Brown and even spit on him.. kick his balls... He would get up.. Walk back the bench slow then come back and beat their asses.... Guys back then played with busted knuckles and twisted ankles... Today the heart in Football is gone... Roger Goodell has turned it into a powder puff league..

  • @ap1 said:

    I agree, 100%, that a lack of hitting has deconditioned football players.

    In HS, we were hitting in full pads Mon-Wed and for pre-game on Thursday had no pads and no helmets. 

    In College, we were in full pads, we're hitting and we're allowed to go to the ground on Tuesday and Wednesday. Thursday was Shells, Shoulder Pads and Helmets and we went to thud. As the season progressed, the quicker got quicker and quicker.

    But I absolutely agree. Football players do not hit enough...easy foe me to say as an IOL. But we hit in individual drills, we hit in inside run, we were allowed to go to the ground on 1/1. I remember one teammate getting a concussion in four years of high school and probably 1-2 per season in college. But it didn't happen alot. 

    These kids today are coddled little bitches... They get so much as a hang nail they go to the bench.. They used to punch , kick and pile up on Jim Brown and even spit on him.. kick his balls... He would get up.. Walk back the bench slow then come back and beat their asses.... Guys back then played with busted knuckles and twisted ankles... Today the heart in Football is gone... Roger Goodell has turned it into a powder puff league..

    @nickers said:

    These kids today are coddled little bitches... They get so much as a hang nail they go to the bench.. They used to punch , kick and pile up on Jim Brown and even spit on him.. ick his balls... He would get up.. Walk back the bench slow then come back and beat their asses.... Guts back then played with busted knuckles and twisted ankles... Today the heart in Football is gone... Roger Goodell has turned it into a powder puff league..

    @nickers said:

    A couple generations of sissies were raised... We need to bring those dildos back... Less injuries would happen..

    Agreed.?

  • Concussions weren’t diagnosed.  You had your “bell rung” and finished the game maybe going to the sideline for a play or two. I got smacked so hard catching a pass (the Safety arrived early) I remember to this day every football game I don’t recall the second half of that game and I took the ACT the next morning (I thankfully forgot that too) 
     

    I remember the tackling sled fondly, Hamburger drill and the strange obsession our coaches had for some reason for guys my size playing on the perimeter but still had to hop on the Six man blocking sled with a 300 pound fat a$$ coach on it.  It was like retribution for the fact that we didn’t have to carry around an extra 100 to 150 pounds like other guys.  
     

    We did two days and then a handful of us went to open wrestling mats after two a days.  
     

  • Back when I played football coaches could legally shoot a player who wasn't performing to their standards

    We would have to run this massive hill in Ravenna with a small baby hippo strapped on our backs in the summer heat. Ravenna sits in this weird climate area where they can regularly see 120 degree days.

    Anyways one day we ran a marathon to "warm up" prior to practice (yes, 26.2 miles. We ran from Ravenna to Brimfield and back) the coaches lined us up at the bottom of the hill, strapped the baby hippos onto our backs and made us run up the hill over and over. You have no idea how warm baby hippo pee is on your back, gents.

    Well, someone had to finish last. Poor Tommy Robbins huffed and puffed his way back to the rest of us... the coaches removed the baby hippo from his back, put a blindfold over his eyes, and gave him his first and last cigarette. He took the firing squad like a man.

    Oh the good ol' days. I remember Tommy and that 4th grade football team fondly.  

    @dutch-oven said:

    Back when I played football coaches could legally shoot a player who wasn't performing to their standards

    We would have to run this massive hill in Ravenna with a small baby hippo strapped on our backs in the summer heat. Ravenna sits in this weird climate area where they can regularly see 120 degree days.

    Anyways one day we ran a marathon to "warm up" prior to practice (yes, 26.2 miles. We ran from Ravenna to Brimfield and back) the coaches lined us up at the bottom of the hill, strapped the baby hippos onto our backs and made us run up the hill over and over. You have no idea how warm baby hippo pee is on your back, gents.

    Well, someone had to finish last. Poor Tommy Robbins huffed and puffed his way back to the rest of us... the coaches removed the baby hippo from his back, put a blindfold over his eyes, and gave him his first and last cigarette. He took the firing squad like a man.

    Oh the good ol' days. I remember Tommy and that 4th grade football team fondly.  

    ? Why didn't I see any problems until the 3rd paragraph?  

  • Back when I played football coaches could legally shoot a player who wasn't performing to their standards

    We would have to run this massive hill in Ravenna with a small baby hippo strapped on our backs in the summer heat. Ravenna sits in this weird climate area where they can regularly see 120 degree days.

    Anyways one day we ran a marathon to "warm up" prior to practice (yes, 26.2 miles. We ran from Ravenna to Brimfield and back) the coaches lined us up at the bottom of the hill, strapped the baby hippos onto our backs and made us run up the hill over and over. You have no idea how warm baby hippo pee is on your back, gents.

    Well, someone had to finish last. Poor Tommy Robbins huffed and puffed his way back to the rest of us... the coaches removed the baby hippo from his back, put a blindfold over his eyes, and gave him his first and last cigarette. He took the firing squad like a man.

    Oh the good ol' days. I remember Tommy and that 4th grade football team fondly.  

    @dutch-oven said:

    Back when I played football coaches could legally shoot a player who wasn't performing to their standards

    We would have to run this massive hill in Ravenna with a small baby hippo strapped on our backs in the summer heat. Ravenna sits in this weird climate area where they can regularly see 120 degree days.

    Anyways one day we ran a marathon to "warm up" prior to practice (yes, 26.2 miles. We ran from Ravenna to Brimfield and back) the coaches lined us up at the bottom of the hill, strapped the baby hippos onto our backs and made us run up the hill over and over. You have no idea how warm baby hippo pee is on your back, gents.

    Well, someone had to finish last. Poor Tommy Robbins huffed and puffed his way back to the rest of us... the coaches removed the baby hippo from his back, put a blindfold over his eyes, and gave him his first and last cigarette. He took the firing squad like a man.

    Oh the good ol' days. I remember Tommy and that 4th grade football team fondly.  

    Um - Meet the new & improved Consulting Editor of all of Flugel's football testosterone stories moving forward. Dutch replaces the 6% alcohol of Budweiser Platinum in countless frosted mugs; but that doesn't mean the opponents in the stories will have less broken ribs or clavicles...

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Back when I played football coaches could legally shoot a player who wasn't performing to their standards

    We would have to run this massive hill in Ravenna with a small baby hippo strapped on our backs in the summer heat. Ravenna sits in this weird climate area where they can regularly see 120 degree days.

    Anyways one day we ran a marathon to "warm up" prior to practice (yes, 26.2 miles. We ran from Ravenna to Brimfield and back) the coaches lined us up at the bottom of the hill, strapped the baby hippos onto our backs and made us run up the hill over and over. You have no idea how warm baby hippo pee is on your back, gents.

    Well, someone had to finish last. Poor Tommy Robbins huffed and puffed his way back to the rest of us... the coaches removed the baby hippo from his back, put a blindfold over his eyes, and gave him his first and last cigarette. He took the firing squad like a man.

    Oh the good ol' days. I remember Tommy and that 4th grade football team fondly.  

    Um - Meet the new & improved Consulting Editor of all of Flugel's football testosterone stories moving forward. Dutch replaces the 6% alcohol of Budweiser Platinum in countless frosted mugs; but that doesn't mean the opponents in the stories will have less broken ribs or clavicles...

    @flugel said:

    Um - Meet the new & improved Consulting Editor of all of Flugel's football testosterone stories moving forward. Dutch replaces the 6% alcohol of Budweiser Platinum in countless frosted mugs; but that doesn't mean the opponents in the stories will have less broken ribs or clavicles...

    I figured you could go for a good ol' fashioned dose of Dutch smartassiness! ?

    All jokes aside, those good ol' days created some tough men. 

    You can look no further than nickers to see this. He's definitely not an emotional lightweight whose mouth writes checks his ass could never cash. All man there. 

  • @flugel said:

    Um - Meet the new & improved Consulting Editor of all of Flugel's football testosterone stories moving forward. Dutch replaces the 6% alcohol of Budweiser Platinum in countless frosted mugs; but that doesn't mean the opponents in the stories will have less broken ribs or clavicles...

    I figured you could go for a good ol' fashioned dose of Dutch smartassiness! ?

    All jokes aside, those good ol' days created some tough men. 

    You can look no further than nickers to see this. He's definitely not an emotional lightweight whose mouth writes checks his ass could never cash. All man there. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I figured you could go for a good ol' fashioned dose of Dutch smartassiness! ?

    All jokes aside, those good ol' days created some tough men. 

    You can look no further than nickers to see this. He's definitely not an emotional lightweight whose mouth writes checks his ass could never cash. All man there. 

    For the part in bold - Nothing like it man!   

    So you and Nickers won't be watching college football together tomorrow?   The kid in me gets a gigantic kick out of message board testosterone stories.  You and Nickers have a cyber mallet chemistry in here that's fun to read. Back in the day, some Pittsburgh troll was bragging his 40 time was a 4.9. Atenears (Stan) said something like "Sorry to hear that. We don't run our 40s backward in Ohio."

  • @flugel said:

    Um - Meet the new & improved Consulting Editor of all of Flugel's football testosterone stories moving forward. Dutch replaces the 6% alcohol of Budweiser Platinum in countless frosted mugs; but that doesn't mean the opponents in the stories will have less broken ribs or clavicles...

    I figured you could go for a good ol' fashioned dose of Dutch smartassiness! ?

    All jokes aside, those good ol' days created some tough men. 

    You can look no further than nickers to see this. He's definitely not an emotional lightweight whose mouth writes checks his ass could never cash. All man there. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    I figured you could go for a good ol' fashioned dose of Dutch smartassiness! ?

    All jokes aside, those good ol' days created some tough men. 

    I have a mantra I've used for years, "The older I get, the better I was!"? It applies to just about anything.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I figured you could go for a good ol' fashioned dose of Dutch smartassiness! ?

    All jokes aside, those good ol' days created some tough men. 

    You can look no further than nickers to see this. He's definitely not an emotional lightweight whose mouth writes checks his ass could never cash. All man there. 

    For the part in bold - Nothing like it man!   

    So you and Nickers won't be watching college football together tomorrow?   The kid in me gets a gigantic kick out of message board testosterone stories.  You and Nickers have a cyber mallet chemistry in here that's fun to read. Back in the day, some Pittsburgh troll was bragging his 40 time was a 4.9. Atenears (Stan) said something like "Sorry to hear that. We don't run our 40s backward in Ohio."

    @flugel said:

    For the part in bold - Nothing like it man!   

    So you and Nickers won't be watching college football together tomorrow?   The kid in me gets a gigantic kick out of message board testosterone stories.  You and Nickers have a cyber mallet chemistry in here that's fun to read. Back in the day, some Pittsburgh troll was bragging his 40 time was a 4.9. Atenears (Stan) said something like "Sorry to hear that. We don't run our 40s backward in Ohio."

    Speaking of Pittsburgh.. I'm actually traveling there this afternoon to see my Nephew (Def End) and the Dayton Flyers play Robert Morris tomorrow at Joe Walton Stadium just outside of Shittspuke... We will be dinning tonight at the Monterey Bay Fish Grotto in Pittspuke.. Oddly enough.. I hate fucking seafood... At least they have Chicken Marsala on the menu... So I will opt for that And a couple of Yuenglings to wash it down.. I just have to tolerate the disgusting smell of seafood... It literally makes me want to barf!

  • @orion said:

    🙂

    They wanted Gabriel.  They had him as the #2 QB in the draft.  They envisioned, worse case scenario, he's the backup QB going forward.  Sanders fell to round 5.  Probably not finding your starting LT down there.  Might as well take a flier on Sanders.  We need(ed) a QB in the worst way.  

    Makes sense on the LT. I want to be wrong about Gabriel, I suppose we will find out soon enough. 

    @bob806 said:

    Makes sense on the LT. I want to be wrong about Gabriel, I suppose we will find out soon enough. 

    Maybe as soon as Sunday, at least in part.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    I figured you could go for a good ol' fashioned dose of Dutch smartassiness! ?

    All jokes aside, those good ol' days created some tough men. 

    I have a mantra I've used for years, "The older I get, the better I was!"? It applies to just about anything.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I have a mantra I've used for years, "The older I get, the better I was!"? It applies to just about anything.

    Let's put it this way - it got you on Calfox's Ignore List immediately.  I appreciate you paving the way for the rest of us. 

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I have a mantra I've used for years, "The older I get, the better I was!"? It applies to just about anything.

    Let's put it this way - it got you on Calfox's Ignore List immediately.  I appreciate you paving the way for the rest of us. 

    @flugel said:

    Let's put it this way - it got you on Calfox's Ignore List immediately.  I appreciate you paving the way for the rest of us. 

    TexAg started cal on his path of being the biggest snowflake on this board?

    Thank you for your service, TexAg! 

  • @flugel said:

    Let's put it this way - it got you on Calfox's Ignore List immediately.  I appreciate you paving the way for the rest of us. 

    TexAg started cal on his path of being the biggest snowflake on this board?

    Thank you for your service, TexAg! 

    @dutch-oven said:

    TexAg started cal on his path of being the biggest snowflake on this board?

    Thank you for your service, TexAg! 

    ?  Aggies makes it happen!

  • @flugel said:

    Let's put it this way - it got you on Calfox's Ignore List immediately.  I appreciate you paving the way for the rest of us. 

    TexAg started cal on his path of being the biggest snowflake on this board?

    Thank you for your service, TexAg! 

    @dutch-oven said:

    TexAg started cal on his path of being the biggest snowflake on this board?

    Thank you for your service, TexAg! 

    You mean the stolen valor service one of his minions accused me of? You're welcome.?

  • Our FO brought in another bunch of players for a workout on Friday.  It seems just about every batch they bring in has a TE or 2.  They're definitely not satisfied with what they have beyond Njoku & Fannin.

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    Analyst Mac Blank believes Collins was the most underrated Browns signing of the offseason.

    “Maliek Collin’s the most underrated signing the #Browns made this year. vs DTs with 50+ rush snaps. 1st in PFF rush grade (91.5). 1st in rush win% (23.5). Tied 6th in hurries (5). The perfect interior pass rusher to pair with Garrett,” Blank noted.

    ...he's a 10 yr vet.  Perfect to have next to Mason Graham.

  • Our FO brought in another bunch of players for a workout on Friday.  It seems just about every batch they bring in has a TE or 2.  They're definitely not satisfied with what they have beyond Njoku & Fannin.

    ----

    Analyst Mac Blank believes Collins was the most underrated Browns signing of the offseason.

    “Maliek Collin’s the most underrated signing the #Browns made this year. vs DTs with 50+ rush snaps. 1st in PFF rush grade (91.5). 1st in rush win% (23.5). Tied 6th in hurries (5). The perfect interior pass rusher to pair with Garrett,” Blank noted.

    ...he's a 10 yr vet.  Perfect to have next to Mason Graham.

    @orion said:

    Our FO brought in another bunch of players for a workout on Friday.  It seems just about every batch they bring in has a TE or 2.  They're definitely not satisfied with what they have beyond Njoku & Fannin.

    ----

    Analyst Mac Blank believes Collins was the most underrated Browns signing of the offseason.

    “Maliek Collin’s the most underrated signing the #Browns made this year. vs DTs with 50+ rush snaps. 1st in PFF rush grade (91.5). 1st in rush win% (23.5). Tied 6th in hurries (5). The perfect interior pass rusher to pair with Garrett,” Blank noted.

    ...he's a 10 yr vet.  Perfect to have next to Mason Graham.

    Could be on the TE comment.  OR...maybe they are looking for Njoku's eventual replacement because we plan to trade him before the deadline.

    I think Fannin is bound for TE #1 since we probably don't plan on signing Njoku to another contract.  I think Whitehurst looked good in his limited reps but no doubt I don't have the full story on the guy.  No matter, I think us looking for a TE to add is more about replacing Njoku over replacing Whitehurst.