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  • Everyone needs to be aware that Baker could potentially earn the league MVP award.

    Its something that needs to be discussed.

    https://deadspin.com/why-baker-mayfield-should-be-early-frontrunner-for-2025-nfl-mvp-award/

    @fy56 said:

    Everyone needs to be aware that Baker could potentially earn the league MVP award.

    Its something that needs to be discussed.

    https://deadspin.com/why-baker-mayfield-should-be-early-frontrunner-for-2025-nfl-mvp-award/

    And hes having success ala Brian Sipe style while the Clowns are still circle jerking...

  • I don’t spend a lot of effort posting about former Brown’s players…but. 

    Andrew Berry is a fucking genius, I mean who else can claim Mayfield was a problem?

    Meanwhile, we trade 3 first round picks for massage boy plus $230 million guaranteed.

    I have no idea why Berry hasn’t been inducted into the Pro Football HOF yet? ?

    This clusterfuck of a deal surpasses the trading away of Paul Warfield AND Ernest Byner.

  • @orion said:

    Thank You a ton for your service!  

    You are most welcome Orion. Now where do I enlist in the "enemies of trumpy" army.  LOL!?‍☠️

    @texasag1969 said:

    You are most welcome Orion. Now where do I enlist in the "enemies of trumpy" army.  LOL!?‍☠️

    At least now you could say you’re in some kind of army. 

  • @fy56 said:

    Everyone needs to be aware that Baker could potentially earn the league MVP award.

    Its something that needs to be discussed.

    https://deadspin.com/why-baker-mayfield-should-be-early-frontrunner-for-2025-nfl-mvp-award/

    And hes having success ala Brian Sipe style while the Clowns are still circle jerking...

    @nickers said:

    And hes having success ala Brian Sipe style while the Clowns are still circle jerking...

    The biggest difference is Baker was a #1 overall pick while Sipe was a 13th round pick so the expectations were much different as was the era.  Before that, Baker won the Heisman Trophy so his talent was well advertised.

    The Browns were never going to put him in an ideal situation similar to what he walked into in Tampa. Here's the thing as we look at Jimmy's business today:  No WR worth a shit, No OT worth a shit.  

    Tampa has the following WRs: Mike Evans, Emeka Egbuka, Chris Godwin, Lalen McMillan, etc. At OT Tristan Wirfs has made Pro Bowls at RT & LT - Cleveland's plan at OT was stick with Injured Reserve at LT and the oft-injured Conklin at RT.

    Good for Baker.  I always rooted for him when he was here so I'm happy to see him be what he can be...

  • @nickers said:

    And hes having success ala Brian Sipe style while the Clowns are still circle jerking...

    The biggest difference is Baker was a #1 overall pick while Sipe was a 13th round pick so the expectations were much different as was the era.  Before that, Baker won the Heisman Trophy so his talent was well advertised.

    The Browns were never going to put him in an ideal situation similar to what he walked into in Tampa. Here's the thing as we look at Jimmy's business today:  No WR worth a shit, No OT worth a shit.  

    Tampa has the following WRs: Mike Evans, Emeka Egbuka, Chris Godwin, Lalen McMillan, etc. At OT Tristan Wirfs has made Pro Bowls at RT & LT - Cleveland's plan at OT was stick with Injured Reserve at LT and the oft-injured Conklin at RT.

    Good for Baker.  I always rooted for him when he was here so I'm happy to see him be what he can be...

    @flugel said:

    The biggest difference is Baker was a #1 overall pick while Sipe was a 13th round pick so the expectations were much different as was the era.  Before that, Baker won the Heisman Trophy so his talent was well advertised.

    The Browns were never going to put him in an ideal situation similar to what he walked into in Tampa. Here's the thing as we look at Jimmy's business today:  No WR worth a shit, No OT worth a shit.  

    Tampa has the following WRs: Mike Evans, Emeka Egbuka, Chris Godwin, Lalen McMillan, etc. At OT Tristan Wirfs has made Pro Bowls at RT & LT - Cleveland's plan at OT was stick with Injured Reserve at LT and the oft-injured Conklin at RT.

    Good for Baker.  I always rooted for him when he was here so I'm happy to see him be what he can be...

    Yeah , It helps when you have guys who consistently catch the ball.. So far... Jerry Jeudy has been a huge disappointment and Ced Tillman is not having the breakout year one would expect from a young WR.. Bond looks frail to me... Not sure how long hes gonna last... I would like to see more wheel routes with Judkins and Sampson... I actually believe had "Dumbell" used that strategy in the 4th qtr... We wouldve won.. But "Dumbell" went all Marty ball and played not to lose..

  • @westside-steve said:

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    Thanks cal,jr. Don't know if we could keep track without you.??‍☠️

    @texasag1969 said:

    Thanks cal,jr. Don't know if we could keep track without you.??‍☠️

    Hi Tex, good to see you. Calling me Cal isn't an insult so if that's what you're going for.. anyway I just post this to underscore the fact that Haslem stefanski deepodasta and maybe even bury are idiots.Gue Jackson too. Also without a doubt I was right and the baker haters were wrong. The kid is still achieving comebacks against very good teams unlike anyone before Horseman of the Browns apocalypse have had under Center. Combine that with the assets we flushed down the toilet for Watson. Sorry to upset you guys. Well, not really.

    WSS

  • And it all honesty the Browns didn't know that Watson was going to turn out to be a s***** player as well as a s***** human being.

    But when bad luck and stupidity merge..

    ?

    WSS

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Thanks cal,jr. Don't know if we could keep track without you.??‍☠️

    Hi Tex, good to see you. Calling me Cal isn't an insult so if that's what you're going for.. anyway I just post this to underscore the fact that Haslem stefanski deepodasta and maybe even bury are idiots.Gue Jackson too. Also without a doubt I was right and the baker haters were wrong. The kid is still achieving comebacks against very good teams unlike anyone before Horseman of the Browns apocalypse have had under Center. Combine that with the assets we flushed down the toilet for Watson. Sorry to upset you guys. Well, not really.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Hi Tex, good to see you. Calling me Cal isn't an insult so if that's what you're going for.. anyway I just post this to underscore the fact that Haslem stefanski deepodasta and maybe even bury are idiots.Gue Jackson too. Also without a doubt I was right and the baker haters were wrong. The kid is still achieving comebacks against very good teams unlike anyone before Horseman of the Browns apocalypse have had under Center. Combine that with the assets we flushed down the toilet for Watson. Sorry to upset you guys. Well, not really.

    WSS

    Actually just pulling your chain. There's nothing there I disagree with. But the Baker & Watson move is such a dead horse the skeleton is showing up at the water hole. Nothing can fix stupid and we have 'em all from the owner to the FO.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    You are most welcome Orion. Now where do I enlist in the "enemies of trumpy" army.  LOL!?‍☠️

    At least now you could say you’re in some kind of army. 

    @fy56 said:

    At least now you could say you’re in some kind of army. 

    If someone can tell me how to move a photo from my phone to this location, maybe the asswipe will finally STFU.

  • To me, it doesn't do any good to rehash the Why Did We Trade Baker thing.  Everyone has stated their like or dislike of the trade.  

    Now, if ya wanna have a thread to that encompasses ALL of the bad player moves that the team has made, Warfield, Phipps, Kosar to Todd Philcox, etc. then perhaps people would go there and depress themselves about all of the history.   

    And 'Haters'?  Those of us that weren't happy that Baker was our QB didn't hate him.  Manziel, we hated.   Watson was/is hated by some.  But Baker wasn't.   

    A better title for the premise of this thread would be, For The Baker Bros.    

  • @fy56 said:

    At least now you could say you’re in some kind of army. 

    If someone can tell me how to move a photo from my phone to this location, maybe the asswipe will finally STFU.

    @texasag1969 said:

    If someone can tell me how to move a photo from my phone to this location, maybe the asswipe will finally STFU.

    The guy who took another man’s name for his own until I ridiculed him so hard he had to change his name while he hid over on the Poliboard for months? That guy? I wouldn’t worry what that pansy says ?

  • @fy56 said:

    At least now you could say you’re in some kind of army. 

    If someone can tell me how to move a photo from my phone to this location, maybe the asswipe will finally STFU.

    @texasag1969 said:

    If someone can tell me how to move a photo from my phone to this location, maybe the asswipe will finally STFU.

    I prefer my laptop instead of my phone...so, I'm guessing that you cannot do a copy & paste with phone pics?

  • @texasag1969 said:

    If someone can tell me how to move a photo from my phone to this location, maybe the asswipe will finally STFU.

    I prefer my laptop instead of my phone...so, I'm guessing that you cannot do a copy & paste with phone pics?

    @orion said:

    I prefer my laptop instead of my phone...so, I'm guessing that you cannot do a copy & paste with phone pics?

    I'll take both to my whiz kid computer programmer son in law tonight when I go over to watch TNF. He programs for EA Sports, so if he can't d it, no one can. I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets. It dishonors the dead we all watched die. But then that's exactly how his dear leader treats us as well-----"Losers and suckers." DJT

  • @orion said:

    I prefer my laptop instead of my phone...so, I'm guessing that you cannot do a copy & paste with phone pics?

    I'll take both to my whiz kid computer programmer son in law tonight when I go over to watch TNF. He programs for EA Sports, so if he can't d it, no one can. I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets. It dishonors the dead we all watched die. But then that's exactly how his dear leader treats us as well-----"Losers and suckers." DJT

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'll take both to my whiz kid computer programmer son in law tonight when I go over to watch TNF. He programs for EA Sports, so if he can't d it, no one can. I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets. It dishonors the dead we all watched die. But then that's exactly how his dear leader treats us as well-----"Losers and suckers." DJT

    Wonder how he feels on the EA buyout. 

    And no offense to your son, but given the lack of quality in EA titles the last 10 years, it isn't a position I myself would brag about. 

  • @orion said:

    I prefer my laptop instead of my phone...so, I'm guessing that you cannot do a copy & paste with phone pics?

    I'll take both to my whiz kid computer programmer son in law tonight when I go over to watch TNF. He programs for EA Sports, so if he can't d it, no one can. I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets. It dishonors the dead we all watched die. But then that's exactly how his dear leader treats us as well-----"Losers and suckers." DJT

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'll take both to my whiz kid computer programmer son in law tonight when I go over to watch TNF. He programs for EA Sports, so if he can't d it, no one can. I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets. It dishonors the dead we all watched die. 

    You don't have to prove anything to anyone in here.  Vietnam Vets were never treated well and the media in this country never did them/you any favors.  That's a shame!  

  • As much as I hate how things have turned out.. My biggest concern is the current state of the franchise that looks incredibly inept.. I like Gabriel but do not think he's the solution to the problem.. Shadoodoo looks even less promising and there's just too much drama surrounding him with the cultist nut huggers that genuflect to him..... When I look at Shadeur... I see Tim Tebow... Except Tebow actually won something.. All I see from Shadeur is a big circus unfolding... A loudmouth Daddy.. And a coach of a team who consistently shoves his own head up his ass.. As far as the future goes... I'm leaning toward drafting Carson Beck or Cade Klubnik.. I would like to see Kevin replaced with a real disciplinarian.. I think Jim Schwartz could be that guy. But I would be willing to look at Jon Gruden as a possible replacement.. Only from the standpoint he grew up in this area.. Has won a championship with Brad fucking Johnson at QB.. And understands the rivalry and passion in this town.. But the other problem is Jimmy meddling at every turn to thwart any momentum with this team.. First thing I would do is get rid of moneyball followed by Kevin.... I would entertain giving Berry another year without Moneyball in the way... I mean Kevin was forced on him..

  • @orion said:

    I prefer my laptop instead of my phone...so, I'm guessing that you cannot do a copy & paste with phone pics?

    I'll take both to my whiz kid computer programmer son in law tonight when I go over to watch TNF. He programs for EA Sports, so if he can't d it, no one can. I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets. It dishonors the dead we all watched die. But then that's exactly how his dear leader treats us as well-----"Losers and suckers." DJT

    @texasag1969 said:

    I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets.

    1)  Who's the turd?

    2) Near where I live is held the longest running 4th of July parade in the country.  Many years back, when I used to attend, when the Vietnam Vets would come by, people would BOOO.  I felt so ashamed.  The thing is, the people were booing the war....but the leaders that had us IN the war were not in the parade...it was the soldiers.  They really didn't mean to be degrading the soldier vets who had done their duty to the country.  They just weren't thinking beyond the end of their nose.  A few would yell out, DON'T BOO THE VETERANS!  At which point it would sink in...and the booing would cease.  

  • As much as I hate how things have turned out.. My biggest concern is the current state of the franchise that looks incredibly inept.. I like Gabriel but do not think he's the solution to the problem.. Shadoodoo looks even less promising and there's just too much drama surrounding him with the cultist nut huggers that genuflect to him..... When I look at Shadeur... I see Tim Tebow... Except Tebow actually won something.. All I see from Shadeur is a big circus unfolding... A loudmouth Daddy.. And a coach of a team who consistently shoves his own head up his ass.. As far as the future goes... I'm leaning toward drafting Carson Beck or Cade Klubnik.. I would like to see Kevin replaced with a real disciplinarian.. I think Jim Schwartz could be that guy. But I would be willing to look at Jon Gruden as a possible replacement.. Only from the standpoint he grew up in this area.. Has won a championship with Brad fucking Johnson at QB.. And understands the rivalry and passion in this town.. But the other problem is Jimmy meddling at every turn to thwart any momentum with this team.. First thing I would do is get rid of moneyball followed by Kevin.... I would entertain giving Berry another year without Moneyball in the way... I mean Kevin was forced on him..

    @nickers said:

    As much as I hate how things have turned out.. My biggest concern is the current state of the franchise that looks incredibly inept.. I like Gabriel but do not think he's the solution to the problem.. Shadoodoo looks even less promising and there's just too much drama surrounding him with the cultist nut huggers that genuflect to him..... When I look at Shadeur... I see Tim Tebow... Except Tebow actually won something.. All I see from Shadeur is a big circus unfolding... A loudmouth Daddy.. And a coach of a team who consistently shoves his own head up his ass.. As far as the future goes... I'm leaning toward drafting Carson Beck or Cade Klubnik.. I would like to see Kevin replaced with a real disciplinarian.. I think Jim Schwartz could be that guy. But I would be willing to look at Jon Gruden as a possible replacement.. Only from the standpoint he grew up in this area.. Has won a championship with Brad fucking Johnson at QB.. And understands the rivalry and passion in this town.. But the other problem is Jimmy meddling at every turn to thwart any momentum with this team.. First thing I would do is get rid of moneyball followed by Kevin.... I would entertain giving Berry another year without Moneyball in the way... I mean Kevin was forced on him..

    Jon Gruden is a name I haven't heard in a while.  I don't hate the idea - he's been successful.  The biggest irony is Gruden won the Super Bowl Championship with the team Tony Dungy built against the Raiders team he built.  TB's defense had 5 turnovers that day including 3 INTs for TDs in a 48-21 win over the offensive personnel he hand selected.  

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I'll take both to my whiz kid computer programmer son in law tonight when I go over to watch TNF. He programs for EA Sports, so if he can't d it, no one can. I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets. It dishonors the dead we all watched die. But then that's exactly how his dear leader treats us as well-----"Losers and suckers." DJT

    Wonder how he feels on the EA buyout. 

    And no offense to your son, but given the lack of quality in EA titles the last 10 years, it isn't a position I myself would brag about. 

    @tiamat63 said:

    Wonder how he feels on the EA buyout. 

    And no offense to your son, but given the lack of quality in EA titles the last 10 years, it isn't a position I myself would brag about. 

    I'll mention your comment about titles. I doubt he has say so in those, just development of the games via programming.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    I'm just sick of this turd and his insults to all real Vietnam vets.

    1)  Who's the turd?

    2) Near where I live is held the longest running 4th of July parade in the country.  Many years back, when I used to attend, when the Vietnam Vets would come by, people would BOOO.  I felt so ashamed.  The thing is, the people were booing the war....but the leaders that had us IN the war were not in the parade...it was the soldiers.  They really didn't mean to be degrading the soldier vets who had done their duty to the country.  They just weren't thinking beyond the end of their nose.  A few would yell out, DON'T BOO THE VETERANS!  At which point it would sink in...and the booing would cease.  

    @orion said:

    1)  Who's the turd?

    FY 56 a.k.a. gorka. Keeps up nonsense about stolen valor vet, etc. despite my sending him a PM about it months ago.