The Official Browns at Jets Game 9 Thread
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The Jets think they can out tank us for the #1 overall pick? Think again!
The Jets think they can out tank us for the #1 overall pick? Think again!
Many will look at the score and think we lost, but did we...
With our luck though, are there really any top picks or depth of talent in this draft that fits our needs?
Stock pile for 2027? ?
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Its not the "playbook".
Tia mentioned Rees play calling limitations, So yes Rees is calling plays from the same fucking book, we also do not have enough talent on the team to execute the plays being called, So tell me reality (cough cough) you seem to know no so fucking much, What is the fucking problem with our offense ? please enlighten me with your grasp of our offense woes.
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Its not the "playbook".
Tia mentioned Rees play calling limitations, So yes Rees is calling plays from the same fucking book, we also do not have enough talent on the team to execute the plays being called, So tell me reality (cough cough) you seem to know no so fucking much, What is the fucking problem with our offense ? please enlighten me with your grasp of our offense woes.
Tia mentioned Rees play calling limitations, So yes Rees is calling plays from the same fucking book, we also do not have enough talent on the team to execute the plays being called, So tell me reality (cough cough) you seem to know no so fucking much, What is the fucking problem with our offense ? please enlighten me with your grasp of our offense woes.
Reality is team to team playbooks are not really that different. Personnel groupings and what you can do off of them are pretty standard.
As Tia deftly noted there are multiple issues
- QB limitations/issues. If one looks at the film more times than not there is an open guy
- OL limitations/issues. As a unit they are the bottom of the league. The Ts are near the bottom of the league.
- WR group does not have a true #1 to build around. Also it lacks anyone to truly threaten vertically
With that tri-fecta of issues on offense there is no magic "playbook" solution.
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The Jets think they can out tank us for the #1 overall pick? Think again!
Many will look at the score and think we lost, but did we...
With our luck though, are there really any top picks or depth of talent in this draft that fits our needs?
Stock pile for 2027? ?
Many will look at the score and think we lost, but did we...
With our luck though, are there really any top picks or depth of talent in this draft that fits our needs?
Stock pile for 2027? ?
We need to bendova for mendoza. At this point, losing is our best option.
Then fire Berry before draft day.
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Soon enough the Shadeur Sanders Experience will begin, and I predict a spike in interest from Browns fans... and similar results as Gabriel.
Soon enough the Shadeur Sanders Experience will begin, and I predict a spike in interest from Browns fans... and similar results as Gabriel.
I don't think so, Gabriel was wildly inaccurate on several throws when he wasn't even under pressure. There's no doubt Shedeur is a better passer than Gabriel, the argument for the latter was that he was so much more advanced in processing the game than Shedeur, yet he takes the sack before the half almost costing us the tying field goal. Shedeur would've won the game yesterday, against elite competition may be a different story.
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Soon enough the Shadeur Sanders Experience will begin, and I predict a spike in interest from Browns fans... and similar results as Gabriel.
I don't think so, Gabriel was wildly inaccurate on several throws when he wasn't even under pressure. There's no doubt Shedeur is a better passer than Gabriel, the argument for the latter was that he was so much more advanced in processing the game than Shedeur, yet he takes the sack before the half almost costing us the tying field goal. Shedeur would've won the game yesterday, against elite competition may be a different story.
I don't think so, Gabriel was wildly inaccurate on several throws when he wasn't even under pressure. There's no doubt Shedeur is a better passer than Gabriel, the argument for the latter was that he was so much more advanced in processing the game than Shedeur, yet he takes the sack before the half almost costing us the tying field goal.
I definitely think Sanders has the higher ceiling, I just question if he’ll be ready when he plays and we all know what a bad situation generally is waiting for him
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Many will look at the score and think we lost, but did we...
With our luck though, are there really any top picks or depth of talent in this draft that fits our needs?
Stock pile for 2027? ?
We need to bendova for mendoza. At this point, losing is our best option.
Then fire Berry before draft day.
We need to bendova for mendoza. At this point, losing is our best option.
Then fire Berry before draft day.
I may be prejudiced, but Mendoza has not played any real competition this year. The one decent defense on a 5 game losing streak forced him into a last second prayer of a pass for the win. I need to see how they hold up in the playoffs against the best in the nation before selecting any of the QBs as our #1 pick. Right now I'm not convinced on anybody.
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We need to bendova for mendoza. At this point, losing is our best option.
Then fire Berry before draft day.
I may be prejudiced, but Mendoza has not played any real competition this year. The one decent defense on a 5 game losing streak forced him into a last second prayer of a pass for the win. I need to see how they hold up in the playoffs against the best in the nation before selecting any of the QBs as our #1 pick. Right now I'm not convinced on anybody.
I may be prejudiced, but Mendoza has not played any real competition this year. The one decent defense on a 5 game losing streak forced him into a last second prayer of a pass for the win. I need to see how they hold up in the playoffs against the best in the nation before selecting any of the QBs as our #1 pick. Right now I'm not convinced on anybody.
That's what I'm afraid of, and we all know the QB hype inflates as the draft is about to start.
Then we resort to saying "anything is better than what we have" as we give away talent at a position of other needs to reach for that 'better' qb.
I definitely think Sanders has the higher ceiling, I just question if he’ll be ready when he plays and we all know what a bad situation generally is waiting for him
I thought DG woud've done better but I haven't seen anything that says to give him more chances even knowing the hole we have our QBs playing from right now. I'd rather see Sanders sooner than later.
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We need to bendova for mendoza. At this point, losing is our best option.
Then fire Berry before draft day.
I may be prejudiced, but Mendoza has not played any real competition this year. The one decent defense on a 5 game losing streak forced him into a last second prayer of a pass for the win. I need to see how they hold up in the playoffs against the best in the nation before selecting any of the QBs as our #1 pick. Right now I'm not convinced on anybody.
I may be prejudiced, but Mendoza has not played any real competition this year.
Iowa, Oregon, & PSU are decent teams.
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Soon enough the Shadeur Sanders Experience will begin, and I predict a spike in interest from Browns fans... and similar results as Gabriel.
I don't think so, Gabriel was wildly inaccurate on several throws when he wasn't even under pressure. There's no doubt Shedeur is a better passer than Gabriel, the argument for the latter was that he was so much more advanced in processing the game than Shedeur, yet he takes the sack before the half almost costing us the tying field goal. Shedeur would've won the game yesterday, against elite competition may be a different story.
I don't think so, Gabriel was wildly inaccurate on several throws when he wasn't even under pressure. There's no doubt Shedeur is a better passer than Gabriel, the argument for the latter was that he was so much more advanced in processing the game than Shedeur, yet he takes the sack before the half almost costing us the tying field goal. Shedeur would've won the game yesterday, against elite competition may be a different story.
Going back to preseason game 3, and all through training camp, Shedeur was the QB2 behind Flacco.
Then PSG3 hit and that all changed. When the live rush from another team was presented, Sanders processing speed, and his eyes, fell with it.
I don't see anyone else on the internet who has brought this up, but both Gabriel and Sanders were handed a dozen plays each of incredibly similar, or exact same passing structure relative to downs and distance.
Sanders dropped his eyes and/or bailed from NFL clean pockets on multiple occasions against the rush, while Gabriel stood in and either completed or attempted the throws.
That was what won him the QB2, and eventually, the QB1 job for Gabriel. When the bullets went live, he was more decisive than Sanders was.
Has that changed with time and more practice reps? Possibly. But there are two points I'm making here.
- It's a big stretch, at best, to say Sanders would have won yesterday.
- Gabriel wasn't just handed the QB2 and QB1 job on a whim. He did earn it.
That said, what plagued him in camp and pre-season is showing up in the worst ways in regular season. I can see him getting 1, MAYBE two more games. Then Sanders starts after the road trip vs the Raiders.
That would give them a similar amount of starts, 7 v 6, with Shedeur getting his 1st at home against a weak San Fran defense that could help boost his confidence early. At that point, ride the season out and evaluate the difference in QB play.
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Its not the "playbook".
Tia mentioned Rees play calling limitations, So yes Rees is calling plays from the same fucking book, we also do not have enough talent on the team to execute the plays being called, So tell me reality (cough cough) you seem to know no so fucking much, What is the fucking problem with our offense ? please enlighten me with your grasp of our offense woes.
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We need to bendova for mendoza. At this point, losing is our best option.
Then fire Berry before draft day.
I may be prejudiced, but Mendoza has not played any real competition this year. The one decent defense on a 5 game losing streak forced him into a last second prayer of a pass for the win. I need to see how they hold up in the playoffs against the best in the nation before selecting any of the QBs as our #1 pick. Right now I'm not convinced on anybody.
I may be prejudiced, but Mendoza has not played any real competition this year. The one decent defense on a 5 game losing streak forced him into a last second prayer of a pass for the win. I need to see how they hold up in the playoffs against the best in the nation before selecting any of the QBs as our #1 pick. Right now I'm not convinced on anybody.
I’ve been pretty in to watching IU football the last couple years and Oregon was their biggest win this year. Illinois was ranked in the top 10 when they played IU but have fallen off since.
I didn’t get to watch the game against Penn but l listened to a bit on radio and watched the highlights. Penn St got after Mendoza and it was good to see because IU’s Oline is pretty good and there hasn’t been a huge sample size on how he does under pressure.
He seems to have the necessary tools to make it in the NFL. Decent processor, a throw first mentality but he can scramble a bit too, makes throws on the run, good size and seems to have the arm strength to make all the throws.
I haven’t done much comparing him to the other draft eligible QBs, but l think he’s got the goods.
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I may be prejudiced, but Mendoza has not played any real competition this year. The one decent defense on a 5 game losing streak forced him into a last second prayer of a pass for the win. I need to see how they hold up in the playoffs against the best in the nation before selecting any of the QBs as our #1 pick. Right now I'm not convinced on anybody.
I’ve been pretty in to watching IU football the last couple years and Oregon was their biggest win this year. Illinois was ranked in the top 10 when they played IU but have fallen off since.
I didn’t get to watch the game against Penn but l listened to a bit on radio and watched the highlights. Penn St got after Mendoza and it was good to see because IU’s Oline is pretty good and there hasn’t been a huge sample size on how he does under pressure.
He seems to have the necessary tools to make it in the NFL. Decent processor, a throw first mentality but he can scramble a bit too, makes throws on the run, good size and seems to have the arm strength to make all the throws.
I haven’t done much comparing him to the other draft eligible QBs, but l think he’s got the goods.
I’ve been pretty in to watching IU football the last couple years and Oregon was their biggest win this year. Illinois was ranked in the top 10 when they played IU but have fallen off since.
I didn’t get to watch the game against Penn but l listened to a bit on radio and watched the highlights. Penn St got after Mendoza and it was good to see because IU’s Oline is pretty good and there hasn’t been a huge sample size on how he does under pressure.
He seems to have the necessary tools to make it in the NFL. Decent processor, a throw first mentality but he can scramble a bit too, makes throws on the run, good size and seems to have the arm strength to make all the throws.
I haven’t done much comparing him to the other draft eligible QBs, but l think he’s got the goods.
Definitely has the size you would like to see in a AFC North QB, fo sho.
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Many will look at the score and think we lost, but did we...
With our luck though, are there really any top picks or depth of talent in this draft that fits our needs?
Stock pile for 2027? ?
We need to bendova for mendoza. At this point, losing is our best option.
Then fire Berry before draft day.
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Giants HC Brian Daboll has been fired.
Giants HC Brian Daboll has been fired.
Not surprised after despite all the Jaxson Dart hype they were still only 2-8.
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Giants HC Brian Daboll has been fired.
Not surprised after despite all the Jaxson Dart hype they were still only 2-8.
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Apparently they have lead by 10 or more points in four of their road games this season… and lost all four games.
Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.
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Apparently they have lead by 10 or more points in four of their road games this season… and lost all four games.
Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.
Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.
As of today, I can't argue with you on that.
I still think people are getting fired after the season ends. I can't see them winning 6-8 games over the last two seasons and everyone coming back in 2026. I could be wrong.
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Apparently they have lead by 10 or more points in four of their road games this season… and lost all four games.
Some accountability there, we get outcoached by a team trying to tank and everyone's safe here.
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