5 QB’s In The Room
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I’d prefer not to draft for need in the Top 10. We did that in 2020 because we had a need for an OT when Baker was leaving clean pockets in 2019. Enter our need pick Jed Wills. I get the feeling that some of you would reach for a Tackle rather than reach for a QB and I think arguments can be made on both sides.
Do you pass again on a QB trade back and accumulate capital in 27 for Simpson, Sayin or Arch? That is a hard sell. Let’s bring in a McCown type or pray Watson can do something ouch. Go Buckeyes next year
Although entering two drafts 25 and 26 with Top 5 picks and not taking a QB is unprecedented. We are dying fan base we are all older…We saw Thomas, Mack and Schwartz blocking for slow processing QBs. The QB position is everything. I guess I’d be willing to take SOME risks finding/drafting that guy. Not all the time… Last year, I was in the hell no to Shedeur and Dart at 2 camp even though we needed a QB.
In regard to Flacco, he had a shitty line in Cleveland a shitty line in Cincy the worst WR group in Cleveland and the Best in Cincy. WRs in Cincy catch contested throws and get separation - Joe as we know throws into coverage often times unwisely trusts his WR but you better be ready to fight for the ball. He might have the biggest stat/play differential from first four to last four games - check it out. His line sucks there, is it the play calling and WRs maybe?
Need/Desire/demand the second first round pick needs to be Carnell Tate.
before panties go in a wad I’m not saying neglect the OLine again. The top 5 pick is an asset that I’m not excited to use on it though.
Need/Desire/demand the second first round pick needs to be Carnell Tate.
before panties go in a wad I’m not saying neglect the OLine again. The top 5 pick is an asset that I’m not excited to use on it though.
The Browns own first round pick is almost guaranteed to be a top five overall pick, but the QB, OTackle and Wide Receiver classes are kind of lacking in players worth such a high pick.
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Need/Desire/demand the second first round pick needs to be Carnell Tate.
before panties go in a wad I’m not saying neglect the OLine again. The top 5 pick is an asset that I’m not excited to use on it though.
The Browns own first round pick is almost guaranteed to be a top five overall pick, but the QB, OTackle and Wide Receiver classes are kind of lacking in players worth such a high pick.
The Browns own first round pick is almost guaranteed to be a top five overall pick, but the QB, OTackle and Wide Receiver classes are kind of lacking in players worth such a high pick.
Do we have a Drake Maye somewhere this year? Maye had a shaky last year at UNC mainly because they graduated talent around him but he went from Air Raid to a more pro style approach and he struggled. But he had size and a good arm and good athleticism although he drew some comparisons to old Baker Mayfield as a gunslinger.
Fano looks like the best tackle and next February when others start posting clips half this board will be drooling over the run blocking clips.
The best WR in this draft is Carnell Tate and he will run a Drake London like 40 - it is reported he doesn’t run well but I think that’s a good comp for him (London) although Tee Higgins is mentioned often.
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The Browns own first round pick is almost guaranteed to be a top five overall pick, but the QB, OTackle and Wide Receiver classes are kind of lacking in players worth such a high pick.
Do we have a Drake Maye somewhere this year? Maye had a shaky last year at UNC mainly because they graduated talent around him but he went from Air Raid to a more pro style approach and he struggled. But he had size and a good arm and good athleticism although he drew some comparisons to old Baker Mayfield as a gunslinger.
Fano looks like the best tackle and next February when others start posting clips half this board will be drooling over the run blocking clips.
The best WR in this draft is Carnell Tate and he will run a Drake London like 40 - it is reported he doesn’t run well but I think that’s a good comp for him (London) although Tee Higgins is mentioned often.
Do we have a Drake Maye somewhere this year? Maye had a shaky last year at UNC mainly because they graduated talent around him but he went from Air Raid to a more pro style approach and he struggled. But he had size and a good arm and good athleticism although he drew some comparisons to old Baker Mayfield as a gunslinger.
Fano looks like the best tackle and next February when others start posting clips half this board will be drooling over the run blocking clips.
The best WR in this draft is Carnell Tate and he will run a Drake London like 40 - it is reported he doesn’t run well but I think that’s a good comp for him (London) although Tee Higgins is mentioned often.
YAHTZEE!
My response to the 1st line in bold: IMO Yes. Mendoza. He's 6'5" full of poise and accuracy; and he's pretty damn good when tucks it up and jets too. Nothing to overthink here. Let's make sure we remember this is Maye's 2nd year so there were growing pains that the team drafting him was intelligent enough to know there would be some they could coach out of their young QB. Kind of like the Josh Allen development in Buffalo.
As much as I'm with anyone that likes more experience in QB prospects - I'm gonna waive that for Ty Simpson. If we keep Tommy Rees - this guy would be more familiar with Tommy's offense than anyone else coming out so that's experience even though he was a backup QB at the time. Aside any of that - just WATCH the guy and know he can be a promising QB like Maye in his 2nd season. The OL situation is a disaster. It sure would be nice to have 1 WR that can get open immediately to help whoever is playing QB from getting killed by our weak OT position. Then again this FO has inexplicable tenure to perpetuate the dumpster fire on the edges of pass pro. If we're gonna draft a franchise QB - it would be nice if our owner understood he needs to protect such an important investment with quality Tackles.
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I predict that Sanders starts at home against San Fran.
That is pretty much what I'm thinking too...
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That is pretty much what I'm thinking too...
Obviously there were empty seats at the Jets game. That's what our home games are going to be looking like. But if you announce the Monday morning after the loss to the Raiders, whatever remaining available seats will sell and there will be a full house for the game. The 'bump in interest' could spill over to the next week against the Titans where Sanders will be playing in the, #1 Pick In The Draft Bowl.
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That is pretty much what I'm thinking too...
Obviously there were empty seats at the Jets game. That's what our home games are going to be looking like. But if you announce the Monday morning after the loss to the Raiders, whatever remaining available seats will sell and there will be a full house for the game. The 'bump in interest' could spill over to the next week against the Titans where Sanders will be playing in the, #1 Pick In The Draft Bowl.
Obviously there were empty seats at the Jets game. That's what our home games are going to be looking like. But if you announce the Monday morning after the loss to the Raiders, whatever remaining available seats will sell and there will be a full house for the game. The 'bump in interest' could spill over to the next week against the Titans where Sanders will be playing in the, #1 Pick In The Draft Bowl.
Funny you bring up the Titans, because I was thinking about a scenario today and you just might be the person to ask this:
The scenario is the Titans and Browns end up #1 and #2 in the draft again. I can't see Tennessee drafting Mendoza obviously, so how much would you give up to move up to #1 overall to ensure no one jumps the Browns and takes him?
Would you give up the Browns other first round pick (#19 overall today) to make sure to get Mendoza?
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Obviously there were empty seats at the Jets game. That's what our home games are going to be looking like. But if you announce the Monday morning after the loss to the Raiders, whatever remaining available seats will sell and there will be a full house for the game. The 'bump in interest' could spill over to the next week against the Titans where Sanders will be playing in the, #1 Pick In The Draft Bowl.
Funny you bring up the Titans, because I was thinking about a scenario today and you just might be the person to ask this:
The scenario is the Titans and Browns end up #1 and #2 in the draft again. I can't see Tennessee drafting Mendoza obviously, so how much would you give up to move up to #1 overall to ensure no one jumps the Browns and takes him?
Would you give up the Browns other first round pick (#19 overall today) to make sure to get Mendoza?
Would you give up the Browns other first round pick (#19 overall today) to make sure to get Mendoza?
The current 2026 draft value chart shows that the #2 pick plus 400 more points would be enough to move up the one spot. That would mean our 2nd round pick should be enough.
But before looking up the chart I said to myself, 'I would fight tooth and nail to keep the Jaguars pick'. I would trade it along with our #1 but we would have to be a bit further down the draft order.
But there's a lot we'd need to know first: Did we find out that neither Gabriel or Sanders is worth pursuing as a #1 QB?
Is Mendoza all by himself? Will other QB's prove to be worthy of a high #1 draft pick?
You know me. I want a tall QB. If my people (scouts, etc.) told me that Mendoza is the real deal, then I'm sick to death of evaluating QB's every winter. I'm sick of not having a chance because of the QB position. I'd do almost anything I had to do to get him.
We had the great Jim Brown when we last won a championship. But it was the QB and Receiver combo that scored all of the TD's in that last championship of ours. I'd come out of the 2026 draft with Mendoza, a couple of OLinemen and a couple of WR's. Because I'M FUCKIN' SICK OF IT!
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Obviously there were empty seats at the Jets game. That's what our home games are going to be looking like. But if you announce the Monday morning after the loss to the Raiders, whatever remaining available seats will sell and there will be a full house for the game. The 'bump in interest' could spill over to the next week against the Titans where Sanders will be playing in the, #1 Pick In The Draft Bowl.
Funny you bring up the Titans, because I was thinking about a scenario today and you just might be the person to ask this:
The scenario is the Titans and Browns end up #1 and #2 in the draft again. I can't see Tennessee drafting Mendoza obviously, so how much would you give up to move up to #1 overall to ensure no one jumps the Browns and takes him?
Would you give up the Browns other first round pick (#19 overall today) to make sure to get Mendoza?
Funny you bring up the Titans, because I was thinking about a scenario today and you just might be the person to ask this:
The scenario is the Titans and Browns end up #1 and #2 in the draft again. I can't see Tennessee drafting Mendoza obviously, so how much would you give up to move up to #1 overall to ensure no one jumps the Browns and takes him?
Would you give up the Browns other first round pick (#19 overall today) to make sure to get Mendoza?
Unfortunately, the Jets now have TWO 1st round picks in 2026 + THREE 1st round picks in 2027 + TWO 2nd round picks in 2026. My guess is whoever holds the 1st overall pick will be aware of this.
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Funny you bring up the Titans, because I was thinking about a scenario today and you just might be the person to ask this:
The scenario is the Titans and Browns end up #1 and #2 in the draft again. I can't see Tennessee drafting Mendoza obviously, so how much would you give up to move up to #1 overall to ensure no one jumps the Browns and takes him?
Would you give up the Browns other first round pick (#19 overall today) to make sure to get Mendoza?
Unfortunately, the Jets now have TWO 1st round picks in 2026 + THREE 1st round picks in 2027 + TWO 2nd round picks in 2026. My guess is whoever holds the 1st overall pick will be aware of this.
Unfortunately, the Jets now have TWO 1st round picks in 2026 + THREE 1st round picks in 2027 + TWO 2nd round picks in 2026. My guess is whoever holds the 1st overall pick will be aware of this.
Right. The Jets are our royal PITA team in terms of the draft. They're in crazy mode. They're liable to throw the kitchen sink at the #1 pick holder. I don't know that we want to get into that kind of a war. The easiest way is to lose out. I bet that gets us the #1 overall.
We've got a couple of what would be called winnable games coming up against the Raiders & Titans. But our offense is so pathetic that we would really have to play a perfect game to beat the worst teams in the league.
The ironic thing is that the rest of the division keeps coming back to us. We're only 3 games out of 1st place. And we play them once yet. The division title is still within reach. And yet I wouldn't be able to find a sane person that would think we'd have a snowball's chance in Hell...
I honestly believe that the ONLY chance we have at winning the division is by putting in Sanders at QB for the very next game. And this is ONLY because we can't say for 100% certain that Sanders won't be the better QB. This particular group of offensive players that we trot onto the field every week requires the QB to carry them. I think that we've seen that it's not going to be Gabriel at this point in time...and truly it's unfair to expect a rookie QB to be able to do that...but it's what is required to save the season.
Right now we need a QB that has shown the ability to make things happen. To make plays. And to make plays out of nothing...that would be more up Sanders' alley.
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Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Browns QB Dillon Gabriel nominated for NFL Rookie of the Week honor despite bad game
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Unfortunately, the Jets now have TWO 1st round picks in 2026 + THREE 1st round picks in 2027 + TWO 2nd round picks in 2026. My guess is whoever holds the 1st overall pick will be aware of this.
Right. The Jets are our royal PITA team in terms of the draft. They're in crazy mode. They're liable to throw the kitchen sink at the #1 pick holder. I don't know that we want to get into that kind of a war. The easiest way is to lose out. I bet that gets us the #1 overall.
We've got a couple of what would be called winnable games coming up against the Raiders & Titans. But our offense is so pathetic that we would really have to play a perfect game to beat the worst teams in the league.
The ironic thing is that the rest of the division keeps coming back to us. We're only 3 games out of 1st place. And we play them once yet. The division title is still within reach. And yet I wouldn't be able to find a sane person that would think we'd have a snowball's chance in Hell...
I honestly believe that the ONLY chance we have at winning the division is by putting in Sanders at QB for the very next game. And this is ONLY because we can't say for 100% certain that Sanders won't be the better QB. This particular group of offensive players that we trot onto the field every week requires the QB to carry them. I think that we've seen that it's not going to be Gabriel at this point in time...and truly it's unfair to expect a rookie QB to be able to do that...but it's what is required to save the season.
Right now we need a QB that has shown the ability to make things happen. To make plays. And to make plays out of nothing...that would be more up Sanders' alley.
Right. The Jets are our royal PITA team in terms of the draft. They're in crazy mode. They're liable to throw the kitchen sink at the #1 pick holder. I don't know that we want to get into that kind of a war. The easiest way is to lose out. I bet that gets us the #1 overall.
We've got a couple of what would be called winnable games coming up against the Raiders & Titans. But our offense is so pathetic that we would really have to play a perfect game to beat the worst teams in the league.
The ironic thing is that the rest of the division keeps coming back to us. We're only 3 games out of 1st place. And we play them once yet. The division title is still within reach. And yet I wouldn't be able to find a sane person that would think we'd have a snowball's chance in Hell...
I honestly believe that the ONLY chance we have at winning the division is by putting in Sanders at QB for the very next game. And this is ONLY because we can't say for 100% certain that Sanders won't be the better QB. This particular group of offensive players that we trot onto the field every week requires the QB to carry them. I think that we've seen that it's not going to be Gabriel at this point in time...and truly it's unfair to expect a rookie QB to be able to do that...but it's what is required to save the season.
Right now we need a QB that has shown the ability to make things happen. To make plays. And to make plays out of nothing...that would be more up Sanders' alley.
Thanks - well said! We CAN keep losing to earn that final spot; because we're currently defending 3-14 football with 2-7 football. We've been in check mate for quite some time now. Any meaningless streaks now doesn't change the problem at QB while it could save 1 or both guys (Berry and/or Stefanski) in "save-my-ass" mode.
It would be nice to see what Sanders has at this point though.
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Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Browns QB Dillon Gabriel nominated for NFL Rookie of the Week honor despite bad game
Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Browns QB Dillon Gabriel nominated for NFL Rookie of the Week honor despite bad game
It's the survivor's award for not getting a season ending injury from the worst pass-pro team in the league.
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Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Browns QB Dillon Gabriel nominated for NFL Rookie of the Week honor despite bad game
Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Browns QB Dillon Gabriel nominated for NFL Rookie of the Week honor despite bad game
Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
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Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Browns QB Dillon Gabriel nominated for NFL Rookie of the Week honor despite bad game
Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
Yeah but he has so many bad throws not even the defenders have a shot at it because our WRs get no separation.
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Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Browns QB Dillon Gabriel nominated for NFL Rookie of the Week honor despite bad game
Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
Good research! He also had a completion % of 72.9 at Oregon last year. Pretty much any recent starting QB at Oregon has been successful - ie; Bo Nix, Dillon Gabriel, Dante Moore (this year 14 TD passes 1 INT 69.2 comp% record 8-1). That means Gabriel was in a program that understands how important the edges of pass pro & running game are to today's game. Any wonder why Cleveland has been an absolute culture shock for him? There's been a shit show running this team (and I don't care how much people want to tell me about this year's draft.
If we are going to count college - Sanders had a 74% completion rate with 37 TD to 10 INT last year. The difference is he didn't have another prong of attack to lean on or provide some sense of balanced attack. Here's a cut and paste from Goggle showing where Colorado's running game ranked while he was there:
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Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Browns QB Dillon Gabriel nominated for NFL Rookie of the Week honor despite bad game
Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
Which explains why the pesudo analytical front office chose him, they watched the stats instead of the player. No one else had a 3rd round grade on this backup.
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Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
Good research! He also had a completion % of 72.9 at Oregon last year. Pretty much any recent starting QB at Oregon has been successful - ie; Bo Nix, Dillon Gabriel, Dante Moore (this year 14 TD passes 1 INT 69.2 comp% record 8-1). That means Gabriel was in a program that understands how important the edges of pass pro & running game are to today's game. Any wonder why Cleveland has been an absolute culture shock for him? There's been a shit show running this team (and I don't care how much people want to tell me about this year's draft.
If we are going to count college - Sanders had a 74% completion rate with 37 TD to 10 INT last year. The difference is he didn't have another prong of attack to lean on or provide some sense of balanced attack. Here's a cut and paste from Goggle showing where Colorado's running game ranked while he was there:
Good research! He also had a completion % of 72.9 at Oregon last year. Pretty much any recent starting QB at Oregon has been successful - ie; Bo Nix, Dillion Gabriel, Dante Moore (this year 14 TD passes 1 INT 69.2 comp% record 8-1). That means Gabriel was in a program that understands how important the edges of pass pro & running game are to today's game. Any wonder why Cleveland has been an absolute culture shock for him? There's been a shit show running this team (and I don't care how much people want to tell me about this year's draft.
If we are going to count college - Sanders had a 74% completion rate with 37 TD to 10 INT last year. The difference is he didn't have another prong of attack to lean on or provide some sense of balanced attack. Here's a cut and paste from Goggle showing where Colorado's running game ranked while he was there:
Just baffling how they thought Gabriel was better than Shedeur. If they didn't like Shedeur on initial grading they should've just not drafted either one and stuck with Picket using that top 100 pick on a lineman or WR. Now they've been trying to prop up Gabriel from day one after realising what a mistake they made, stealing first team reps from even Flacco and the super processor they fraudulently announced was actually a x486 from the 80's rather than an Intel core processor.
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Our own DG was nominated for rookie of the week. No, it's not a joke or satire.
Here’s the kind of surreal thing about Gabriel: after his first five starts, he has a touchdown to interception ratio of 3.5 touchdowns to 1 interception.
I’m in no way saying he’s playing well, but that is a true statement. If someone had told me back in August that after his first five games he’d be 3.5 touchdowns to every interception I would have been one giddy guinea.
Which explains why the pesudo analytical front office chose him, they watched the stats instead of the player. No one else had a 3rd round grade on this backup.
Which explains why the pesudo analytical front office chose him, they watched the stats instead of the player.
Well...not exactly true. After the draft Stef stated that he & Berry were watching Gabriel's tape and Stef asked, "Where does his height show as up an issue?". I'm sure they did research on him. And I had read that there was another team going to draft him before the Browns next pick. We'll take that with a grain of salt.
As much as I want the taller Sanders in the game....Gabriel, for a rookie 3rd round pick, has NOT played terrible...with a weak surrounding cast. He has not been a turnover machine (although he's had a number of INT's dropped by defenders...but that happens to all QB's).
I watched an All 22 of the game...and did he not see some receivers that were open or coming open? Yes. He's a rookie. The NFL game is fast. Did he make some bad throws? Yup. But he's made plenty of good throws too. - And the All 22 showed what he has to put up with from the OL......guys coming unblocked...guys not sustaining their blocks...bad OL communication...etc. But Yes, sometimes the OL was good and Gabriel moved the wrong way in the pocket, or didn't take advantage of the good protection to go through enough progressions. These can all be attributed to being a rookie.
One can find stats to suit anyone's argument I'm sure...Gabriel's completion percentage isn't great...but it's better than last year's #1 overall pick QB. It ain't easy being a rookie QB on a bad team.
I've predicted that we won't see Sanders at QB until the 49'er game. And though I've praised Gabriel here, he has not shown to be a guy to carry an offense. Sanders played with a bad OL & running game. He had to carry the team. He had to make things happen. So I think he should be put in right now as a last ditch effort to save the season. But Stef is married to him since the draft.
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