Currently our 2025 first round pick is....
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I rarely disagree with you - BUT this is different due to the very limited supply of what the Browns need most. But, let's pretend BPA is the only way to go at #6 and pretend it's a TE so we take him. Now there isn't a LT remaining that can help us due to such a limited supply that won't last until the last 2 or 3 picks of round 1. Consequently we're stuck on park at LT; while TE was already a strength. You know this. I don't care about Wirfs' wrestling background nearly as much as I care about the NFL training he got in Kirk Ferentz's football program at Iowa. You're not supposed to draft guys with best football played in the rear view mirror - you're supposed to draft them for an ability to take their prep and training to a higher level over the next 5-10 years. Here's what Wirfs accomplished at Iowa to set up the success in Tampa per cut and paste below:
Next let's see how the NFL Team that the Browns gift wrapped him to in Tampa did as a result while Jed Wills is hoping desperate NFL team wants him>
I'm pretty confident saying the Browns could use a LT like this especially when Cam Robinson #68 or Dawand Jones are the alternatives.
If the call is stay at 6 and take a tackle the tackle choices are Francis Mauigoa and Fano. I don’t care if they play RT or LT - can they play on an island (and not be a better fit inside) and can they move their feet in the run game. Both possess strength. Most mocks have these two taken in the teens.
I’ve been harping on our WRs. I’m not crazy about either choice at 6 either.
If you made me choose on this date….Im taking Caleb Downs and then using the next four picks on OT,Guard, WRs
If you made me choose on this date….Im taking Caleb Downs and then using the next four picks on OT,Guard, WRs
Interesting because Walter Football predicts Downs is chosen at #5 to the Giants.
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If you made me choose on this date….Im taking Caleb Downs and then using the next four picks on OT,Guard, WRs
Interesting because Walter Football predicts Downs is chosen at #5 to the Giants.
Interesting because Walter Football predicts Downs is chosen at #5 to the Giants.
Wouldn’t surprise me…He’s arguably the best defensive talent in the draft. Gold jacket all pro potential.
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Interesting because Walter Football predicts Downs is chosen at #5 to the Giants.
Wouldn’t surprise me…He’s arguably the best defensive talent in the draft. Gold jacket all pro potential.
Wouldn’t surprise me…He’s arguably the best defensive talent in the draft. Gold jacket all pro potential.
They also say Proctor from Alabama is the best OT in this draft and have the Browns picking him next at #6.
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Wouldn’t surprise me…He’s arguably the best defensive talent in the draft. Gold jacket all pro potential.
They also say Proctor from Alabama is the best OT in this draft and have the Browns picking him next at #6.
With all eyes on Mendoza, I wanted to know what makes the machine go.
His LT - Carter Smith
His C - Pat Coogan
Really standing out to me.
They also say Proctor from Alabama is the best OT in this draft and have the Browns picking him next at #6.
Proctor, at least in my early viewings, suffers from the same symptoms the majority of Bama LTs before him (Leatherwood, Neal, Jonah Williams, Cam Robinson ) did.
He's a large body with incredibly heavy feet. Sadly there's a lot of history working against him.
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Anyway, thank you Buffalo for giving us a higher draft pick.
EDIT: In fact that gives us either #21 or #22 depending upon whether NE wins or loses. We are now rooting for the Chargers to upset them.
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With all eyes on Mendoza, I wanted to know what makes the machine go.
His LT - Carter Smith
His C - Pat Coogan
Really standing out to me.
They also say Proctor from Alabama is the best OT in this draft and have the Browns picking him next at #6.
Proctor, at least in my early viewings, suffers from the same symptoms the majority of Bama LTs before him (Leatherwood, Neal, Jonah Williams, Cam Robinson ) did.
He's a large body with incredibly heavy feet. Sadly there's a lot of history working against him.
With all eyes on Mendoza, I wanted to know what makes the machine go.
His LT - Carter Smith
His C - Pat Coogan
Really standing out to me.
Proctor, at least in my early viewings, suffers from the same symptoms the majority of Bama LTs before him (Leatherwood, Neal, Jonah Williams, Cam Robinson ) did.
He's a large body with incredibly heavy feet. Sadly there's a lot of history working against him.
The portal makes it go. The HC too and coordinator retention.
too bad we can’t throw cash around then again we may run into the next Jack soft tissue Conklin
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Anyway, thank you Buffalo for giving us a higher draft pick.
EDIT: In fact that gives us either #21 or #22 depending upon whether NE wins or loses. We are now rooting for the Chargers to upset them.
Anyway, thank you Buffalo for giving us a higher draft pick.
EDIT: In fact that gives us either #21 or #22 depending upon whether NE wins or loses. We are now rooting for the Chargers to upset them.
I think 24 now
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Anyway, thank you Buffalo for giving us a higher draft pick.
EDIT: In fact that gives us either #21 or #22 depending upon whether NE wins or loses. We are now rooting for the Chargers to upset them.
Anyway, thank you Buffalo for giving us a higher draft pick.
EDIT: In fact that gives us either #21 or #22 depending upon whether NE wins or loses. We are now rooting for the Chargers to upset them.
Jim "cheating" Harbaugh vs the ex-Bellichick Cheatriots.
Help us all
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Wouldn’t surprise me…He’s arguably the best defensive talent in the draft. Gold jacket all pro potential.
They also say Proctor from Alabama is the best OT in this draft and have the Browns picking him next at #6.
They also say Proctor from Alabama is the best OT in this draft and have the Browns picking him next at #6.
Who said Proctor is the best LT? Have you seen him move laterally yet? He'll be an OG in the NFL. He's the next Nate Newton, which isn't a bad thing at all in terms of run blocking (and having a teammate to his right and left).
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Anyway, thank you Buffalo for giving us a higher draft pick.
EDIT: In fact that gives us either #21 or #22 depending upon whether NE wins or loses. We are now rooting for the Chargers to upset them.
I think 24 now
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Nope, neither guy can play LT so the 2 RTs you mentioned are not in play for me at #6. I'm not budging. The limited supply for a big demand of LTs will be done by the time we make our 2nd 1st round pick. If you want to evaluate our young QB or next victim - you can't sentence them to the crap at LT and RT the Browns ended the year with. Inexcusable and unacceptable.
We're gonna agree to disagree here and that's okay. If, for some reason I'm wrong and the run on LTs has not begun yet at #6 overall (totally possible) - I don't mind trading back a little. There's a guy that plays LT for Indiana (Carter Smith) not getting the mock draft popularity RTs like Fano and Mauigoa are getting. Here's a cut and paste and maybe we CAN get this guy at the end of round 1 or in round 2.
I think there's a lot of RTs with similar skillsets and I'd be fine with getting Iowa's Gennings Dunker in round 2. Here's what I want by the end of round 2 selection (LT, RT & WR) and I'm fine with going WR before RT.
Now, I'm fine going BPA the rest of the draft.
So we can’t fix this unless we reach for a left tackle at 6?
I say reach because it appears the left tackle prospects aren’t Top 10 material.So we can’t fix this unless we reach for a left tackle at 6?
I say reach because it appears the left tackle prospects aren’t Top 10 material.According to who? Mock drafts in January?
Someone just whipped up Kadyn Proctor (Nate Newton Jr) as a #6 overall. He scares me because I'm not sure he has the lateral movement to play LT at 374 lbs. My guess is he'll play OG (like Nate Newton did). He could be a great Guard and solid run blocker like Newton.
I'm just a fan that needs his day job; but watching an OL without any help from the offensive tackles for 2 straight years had us witness 3 wins 1 year and 5 wins the next. Not fun.
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I think 24 now
23 if NE loses
23 if NE loses
That's good news.
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Anyway, thank you Buffalo for giving us a higher draft pick.
EDIT: In fact that gives us either #21 or #22 depending upon whether NE wins or loses. We are now rooting for the Chargers to upset them.
I think 24 now
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I think 24 now
Why?
Why?
Wild card round losers get placed next in order by worst to best record. Jax has the best record so far of the losers or potential losers unless NE loses we will be 24
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I think 24 now
Why?
Why?
Tankathon currently has the Jags pick at 24.
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Why?
Tankathon currently has the Jags pick at 24.
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Nope, neither guy can play LT so the 2 RTs you mentioned are not in play for me at #6. I'm not budging. The limited supply for a big demand of LTs will be done by the time we make our 2nd 1st round pick. If you want to evaluate our young QB or next victim - you can't sentence them to the crap at LT and RT the Browns ended the year with. Inexcusable and unacceptable.
We're gonna agree to disagree here and that's okay. If, for some reason I'm wrong and the run on LTs has not begun yet at #6 overall (totally possible) - I don't mind trading back a little. There's a guy that plays LT for Indiana (Carter Smith) not getting the mock draft popularity RTs like Fano and Mauigoa are getting. Here's a cut and paste and maybe we CAN get this guy at the end of round 1 or in round 2.
I think there's a lot of RTs with similar skillsets and I'd be fine with getting Iowa's Gennings Dunker in round 2. Here's what I want by the end of round 2 selection (LT, RT & WR) and I'm fine with going WR before RT.
Now, I'm fine going BPA the rest of the draft.
So we can’t fix this unless we reach for a left tackle at 6?
I say reach because it appears the left tackle prospects aren’t Top 10 material.So we can’t fix this unless we reach for a left tackle at 6?
I say reach because it appears the left tackle prospects aren’t Top 10 material.I'm not trying to be obnoxious here; unfortunately, that comes more easily than I'd like it to sometimes. Okay, so I'm feeling like I'm trying to sell tanning beds in the tropics here. No worries, I love every DAMN 1 of yuz. I just want to challenge our collective minds here to dig deeper on what's stopping the show via our personnel on the field aside from any coaches you feel are responsible. In particular, what position(s) are doing that so I'll try to guide you here. If you're not interested - I understand...
What's the most important position in an NFL Offense today? If you don't have 1 before the draft - do you reach to get 1 in a very limited supply for a big demand? Why or why not?
What other position(s) do you protect this investment best from on the field? If you don't have one or two do you reach if there's a limited supply of this/these position(s)? If not, could trading back a little for an additional pick or 2 help us out?
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With all eyes on Mendoza, I wanted to know what makes the machine go.
His LT - Carter Smith
His C - Pat Coogan
Really standing out to me.
They also say Proctor from Alabama is the best OT in this draft and have the Browns picking him next at #6.
Proctor, at least in my early viewings, suffers from the same symptoms the majority of Bama LTs before him (Leatherwood, Neal, Jonah Williams, Cam Robinson ) did.
He's a large body with incredibly heavy feet. Sadly there's a lot of history working against him.
With all eyes on Mendoza, I wanted to know what makes the machine go.
His LT - Carter Smith
His C - Pat Coogan
Really standing out to me.
I wondered who you might like in the IU trenches. Coogan transferred from Notre Dame. Do you think Smith has the feet to stick at OT or is he another “might be better as a Guard” guy?
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With all eyes on Mendoza, I wanted to know what makes the machine go.
His LT - Carter Smith
His C - Pat Coogan
Really standing out to me.
I wondered who you might like in the IU trenches. Coogan transferred from Notre Dame. Do you think Smith has the feet to stick at OT or is he another “might be better as a Guard” guy?
I wondered who you might like in the IU trenches. Coogan transferred from Notre Dame. Do you think Smith has the feet to stick at OT or is he another “might be better as a Guard” guy?
Building my QB, OL & WR viewing list for this off-season including the website work. So far, my thoughts are from just watching live and some sky cam replays. So a bit "rough draft-ish"... but early impressions on his arch step are solid.
Myself, @flugel...possibly @dutch-oven (and anyone else that's willing to join) will be tagging along with me for some film review for OTs on my RunThe9 channel either tonight or tomorrow.
I'll give you an expanded review once I've charted more snaps for Smith.
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