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The Browns have built something quietly on offense over the last two drafts. Harold Fannin Jr. emerged as a dynamic tight end. Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson give them a legitimate backfield. Adding a true No. 1 receiver would give whoever wins the quarterback competition an actual chance to succeed.
That is the argument for taking Tate at No. 6 and not overthinking it. The Browns do not need to find a solution for 10 positions in one pick. They need a weapon on the outside that changes what opposing defenses have to account for. Tate does exactly that.
The Browns have built something quietly on offense over the last two drafts. Harold Fannin Jr. emerged as a dynamic tight end. Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson give them a legitimate backfield. Adding a true No. 1 receiver would give whoever wins the quarterback competition an actual chance to succeed.
That is the argument for taking Tate at No. 6 and not overthinking it. The Browns do not need to find a solution for 10 positions in one pick. They need a weapon on the outside that changes what opposing defenses have to account for. Tate does exactly that.
I wouldn’t be mad. You could make a case where they double down at the position in either the 2nd or 3rd round the position is very deep. I think it is group with draft boards that are probably wildly different for each team. So waiting until the 2nd or 3rd round a team may get one of their top WR choices.
Tate and another top rookie with Fannin you have pass catchers set for a half decade.
But I could see Tate going to the Giants at 5. They lost Wandale and Nabers is coming off a knee and they found a QB.
Browns probably have it Tate and then Sadiq (I know he’s a TE) and then drop off. I don’t think Sadiq is on their horizon at 6 though.
if I had to force picks at 24 I’d go Offensive Tackle. And there should be Great value with a WR and Center in rounds 3 and 4 respectively. -
The Browns have built something quietly on offense over the last two drafts. Harold Fannin Jr. emerged as a dynamic tight end. Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson give them a legitimate backfield. Adding a true No. 1 receiver would give whoever wins the quarterback competition an actual chance to succeed.
That is the argument for taking Tate at No. 6 and not overthinking it. The Browns do not need to find a solution for 10 positions in one pick. They need a weapon on the outside that changes what opposing defenses have to account for. Tate does exactly that.
I wouldn’t be mad. You could make a case where they double down at the position in either the 2nd or 3rd round the position is very deep. I think it is group with draft boards that are probably wildly different for each team. So waiting until the 2nd or 3rd round a team may get one of their top WR choices.
Tate and another top rookie with Fannin you have pass catchers set for a half decade.
But I could see Tate going to the Giants at 5. They lost Wandale and Nabers is coming off a knee and they found a QB.
Browns probably have it Tate and then Sadiq (I know he’s a TE) and then drop off. I don’t think Sadiq is on their horizon at 6 though.
if I had to force picks at 24 I’d go Offensive Tackle. And there should be Great value with a WR and Center in rounds 3 and 4 respectively.I wouldn’t be mad.
I want Fano or Tate. We've addressed a lot on the OL and nothing to the WR's. But LT is such an important position. And I want badly to make Jones the swing tackle off the bench. But the other side of me says, Tate is a good receiver in all facets. Good size. He's plenty fast enough (4.53 combine run doesn't define his talent). Perhaps he's not GREAT...but he's got one helluva floor. And then there's the storybook...Ohio State WR in round 1. His jersey immediately becomes the #1 Browns jersey being sold. Storybook pick = sexy pick. The Lineman is not a sexy pick at all. This is where Jimmuh comes in. Jimmy likes the glitz, the spotlight being cast on him and his Browns. Is Fano going to make any diving, leaping, contested, TD catches that gets replayed as a highlight? Fortunately for me, I like either pick.
But if Tate is already picked then I think that removes Jimmuh and his glitz from the equation. Now, you might get your defensive player picked.
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I wouldn’t be mad.
I want Fano or Tate. We've addressed a lot on the OL and nothing to the WR's. But LT is such an important position. And I want badly to make Jones the swing tackle off the bench. But the other side of me says, Tate is a good receiver in all facets. Good size. He's plenty fast enough (4.53 combine run doesn't define his talent). Perhaps he's not GREAT...but he's got one helluva floor. And then there's the storybook...Ohio State WR in round 1. His jersey immediately becomes the #1 Browns jersey being sold. Storybook pick = sexy pick. The Lineman is not a sexy pick at all. This is where Jimmuh comes in. Jimmy likes the glitz, the spotlight being cast on him and his Browns. Is Fano going to make any diving, leaping, contested, TD catches that gets replayed as a highlight? Fortunately for me, I like either pick.
But if Tate is already picked then I think that removes Jimmuh and his glitz from the equation. Now, you might get your defensive player picked.
I want Fano or Tate. We've addressed a lot on the OL and nothing to the WR's. But LT is such an important position. And I want badly to make Jones the swing tackle off the bench. But the other side of me says, Tate is a good receiver in all facets. Good size. He's plenty fast enough (4.53 combine run doesn't define his talent). Perhaps he's not GREAT...but he's got one helluva floor. And then there's the storybook...Ohio State WR in round 1. His jersey immediately becomes the #1 Browns jersey being sold. Storybook pick = sexy pick. The Lineman is not a sexy pick at all. This is where Jimmuh comes in. Jimmy likes the glitz, the spotlight being cast on him and his Browns. Is Fano going to make any diving, leaping, contested, TD catches that gets replayed as a highlight? Fortunately for me, I like either pick.
But if Tate is already picked then I think that removes Jimmuh and his glitz from the equation. Now, you might get your defensive player picked.
We went unsexy last year. No Hunter and trade back for an interior clogger.
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I want Fano or Tate. We've addressed a lot on the OL and nothing to the WR's. But LT is such an important position. And I want badly to make Jones the swing tackle off the bench. But the other side of me says, Tate is a good receiver in all facets. Good size. He's plenty fast enough (4.53 combine run doesn't define his talent). Perhaps he's not GREAT...but he's got one helluva floor. And then there's the storybook...Ohio State WR in round 1. His jersey immediately becomes the #1 Browns jersey being sold. Storybook pick = sexy pick. The Lineman is not a sexy pick at all. This is where Jimmuh comes in. Jimmy likes the glitz, the spotlight being cast on him and his Browns. Is Fano going to make any diving, leaping, contested, TD catches that gets replayed as a highlight? Fortunately for me, I like either pick.
But if Tate is already picked then I think that removes Jimmuh and his glitz from the equation. Now, you might get your defensive player picked.
We went unsexy last year. No Hunter and trade back for an interior clogger.
We went unsexy last year. No Hunter and trade back for an interior clogger.
Yes. But the plan was to set themselves up for one of the great QB's that will be coming out the following year. Which was this year, and there's no batch of great QB's. That, of course, could be the plan again. Except that this year Jimmy has promised to focus on the offense. I just don't like/trust Jimmy and his potential/probable draft pick influencing.
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I wouldn’t be mad.
I want Fano or Tate. We've addressed a lot on the OL and nothing to the WR's. But LT is such an important position. And I want badly to make Jones the swing tackle off the bench. But the other side of me says, Tate is a good receiver in all facets. Good size. He's plenty fast enough (4.53 combine run doesn't define his talent). Perhaps he's not GREAT...but he's got one helluva floor. And then there's the storybook...Ohio State WR in round 1. His jersey immediately becomes the #1 Browns jersey being sold. Storybook pick = sexy pick. The Lineman is not a sexy pick at all. This is where Jimmuh comes in. Jimmy likes the glitz, the spotlight being cast on him and his Browns. Is Fano going to make any diving, leaping, contested, TD catches that gets replayed as a highlight? Fortunately for me, I like either pick.
But if Tate is already picked then I think that removes Jimmuh and his glitz from the equation. Now, you might get your defensive player picked.
I want Fano or Tate. We've addressed a lot on the OL and nothing to the WR's. But LT is such an important position. And I want badly to make Jones the swing tackle off the bench. But the other side of me says, Tate is a good receiver in all facets. Good size. He's plenty fast enough (4.53 combine run doesn't define his talent). Perhaps he's not GREAT...but he's got one helluva floor. And then there's the storybook...Ohio State WR in round 1. His jersey immediately becomes the #1 Browns jersey being sold. Storybook pick = sexy pick. The Lineman is not a sexy pick at all. This is where Jimmuh comes in. Jimmy likes the glitz, the spotlight being cast on him and his Browns. Is Fano going to make any diving, leaping, contested, TD catches that gets replayed as a highlight? Fortunately for me, I like either pick.
But if Tate is already picked then I think that removes Jimmuh and his glitz from the equation. Now, you might get your defensive player picked.
Fano played some LT in 2023. He was put through snapping drills at the combine he played RT last year. He has some questionable arm wingspan measurements at tackle. For a guy being thought off in so many different positions that’s a tough sell for me in the Top 10. Perhaps he’s good at all the positions - is being good…enough at 6 overall? I think we find a good at LT at 24. Maybe too early to tell but I don’t see All Pro caliber offensive lineman in this draft.
We can’t take a QB (hopefully we don’t take Simpson) I’ve been on Downs since the start of the draft process. I look at him as QB on defense. And Similar to JOK making plays in the backfield but of course back side coverage skills maybe allowing the defense to play more aggressively and erasing mistakes on the backend. Weakness? Maybe size. If he’s uncharacteristically late in diagnosing a play do taller targets make plays over him. Hes extremely intelligent. 7-8 years from now does he say the wear and tear of the league ain’t worth it - I’ll move into a front office of an NFL team. Trying to take of my Scarlett colored glasses there is a lot great things about the player and pick and perhaps the fewest questions when we are on the clock at 6.
We could come away with a starting LT and Center in this draft and still take Downs at 6. We would also have a crack at a WR near the top of board in the second round.
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I want Fano or Tate. We've addressed a lot on the OL and nothing to the WR's. But LT is such an important position. And I want badly to make Jones the swing tackle off the bench. But the other side of me says, Tate is a good receiver in all facets. Good size. He's plenty fast enough (4.53 combine run doesn't define his talent). Perhaps he's not GREAT...but he's got one helluva floor. And then there's the storybook...Ohio State WR in round 1. His jersey immediately becomes the #1 Browns jersey being sold. Storybook pick = sexy pick. The Lineman is not a sexy pick at all. This is where Jimmuh comes in. Jimmy likes the glitz, the spotlight being cast on him and his Browns. Is Fano going to make any diving, leaping, contested, TD catches that gets replayed as a highlight? Fortunately for me, I like either pick.
But if Tate is already picked then I think that removes Jimmuh and his glitz from the equation. Now, you might get your defensive player picked.
Fano played some LT in 2023. He was put through snapping drills at the combine he played RT last year. He has some questionable arm wingspan measurements at tackle. For a guy being thought off in so many different positions that’s a tough sell for me in the Top 10. Perhaps he’s good at all the positions - is being good…enough at 6 overall? I think we find a good at LT at 24. Maybe too early to tell but I don’t see All Pro caliber offensive lineman in this draft.
We can’t take a QB (hopefully we don’t take Simpson) I’ve been on Downs since the start of the draft process. I look at him as QB on defense. And Similar to JOK making plays in the backfield but of course back side coverage skills maybe allowing the defense to play more aggressively and erasing mistakes on the backend. Weakness? Maybe size. If he’s uncharacteristically late in diagnosing a play do taller targets make plays over him. Hes extremely intelligent. 7-8 years from now does he say the wear and tear of the league ain’t worth it - I’ll move into a front office of an NFL team. Trying to take of my Scarlett colored glasses there is a lot great things about the player and pick and perhaps the fewest questions when we are on the clock at 6.
We could come away with a starting LT and Center in this draft and still take Downs at 6. We would also have a crack at a WR near the top of board in the second round.
Fano played some LT in 2023. He was put through snapping drills at the combine he played RT last year. He has some questionable arm wingspan measurements at tackle. For a guy being thought off in so many different positions that’s a tough sell for me in the Top 10. Perhaps he’s good at all the positions - is being good…enough at 6 overall? I think we find a good at LT at 24. Maybe too early to tell but I don’t see All Pro caliber offensive lineman in this draft.
We can’t take a QB (hopefully we don’t take Simpson) I’ve been on Downs since the start of the draft process. I look at him as QB on defense. And Similar to JOK making plays in the backfield but of course back side coverage skills maybe allowing the defense to play more aggressively and erasing mistakes on the backend. Weakness? Maybe size. If he’s uncharacteristically late in diagnosing a play do taller targets make plays over him. Hes extremely intelligent. 7-8 years from now does he say the wear and tear of the league ain’t worth it - I’ll move into a front office of an NFL team. Trying to take of my Scarlett colored glasses there is a lot great things about the player and pick and perhaps the fewest questions when we are on the clock at 6.
We could come away with a starting LT and Center in this draft and still take Downs at 6. We would also have a crack at a WR near the top of board in the second round.
If you need a laugh SD - here you go (below). Maybe I've just been tying to convince myself more than anyone else that Caleb Lomu is a 6th overall pick. When it came right down to it with Lomu still available at #6 - I couldn't draft him there (and he fell to me at 24 anyway). The 1 thing about Downs (whom 1 of the 3 guys in the video compared to Ratbird Safety Kyle Hamilton) is we've seen another Ratbird Safety named Ed Reed show us how important the right Safety can be to winning or making THE difference. He scored TDs retuning INTs and punts just like Downs could be capable of. Making a move like picking Downs that pretty much meant Tate wasn't going to be available. That said, he's not the only WR in this draft; while the Browns certainly don't have a WR like Jeremiah Smith lining up on the other side of the formation to give Tate the easier matchup. That perk probably won't be available so whatever WR we do draft will probably face the opponent's best corner every week.
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Fano played some LT in 2023. He was put through snapping drills at the combine he played RT last year. He has some questionable arm wingspan measurements at tackle. For a guy being thought off in so many different positions that’s a tough sell for me in the Top 10. Perhaps he’s good at all the positions - is being good…enough at 6 overall? I think we find a good at LT at 24. Maybe too early to tell but I don’t see All Pro caliber offensive lineman in this draft.
We can’t take a QB (hopefully we don’t take Simpson) I’ve been on Downs since the start of the draft process. I look at him as QB on defense. And Similar to JOK making plays in the backfield but of course back side coverage skills maybe allowing the defense to play more aggressively and erasing mistakes on the backend. Weakness? Maybe size. If he’s uncharacteristically late in diagnosing a play do taller targets make plays over him. Hes extremely intelligent. 7-8 years from now does he say the wear and tear of the league ain’t worth it - I’ll move into a front office of an NFL team. Trying to take of my Scarlett colored glasses there is a lot great things about the player and pick and perhaps the fewest questions when we are on the clock at 6.
We could come away with a starting LT and Center in this draft and still take Downs at 6. We would also have a crack at a WR near the top of board in the second round.
If you need a laugh SD - here you go (below). Maybe I've just been tying to convince myself more than anyone else that Caleb Lomu is a 6th overall pick. When it came right down to it with Lomu still available at #6 - I couldn't draft him there (and he fell to me at 24 anyway). The 1 thing about Downs (whom 1 of the 3 guys in the video compared to Ratbird Safety Kyle Hamilton) is we've seen another Ratbird Safety named Ed Reed show us how important the right Safety can be to winning or making THE difference. He scored TDs retuning INTs and punts just like Downs could be capable of. Making a move like picking Downs that pretty much meant Tate wasn't going to be available. That said, he's not the only WR in this draft; while the Browns certainly don't have a WR like Jeremiah Smith lining up on the other side of the formation to give Tate the easier matchup. That perk probably won't be available so whatever WR we do draft will probably face the opponent's best corner every week.
If you need a laugh SD - here you go (below). Maybe I've just been tying to convince myself more than anyone else that Caleb Lomu is a 6th overall pick. When it came right down to it with Lomu still available at #6 - I couldn't draft him there (and he fell to me at 24 anyway). The 1 thing about Downs (whom 1 of the 3 guys in the video compared to Ratbird Safety Kyle Hamilton) is we've seen another Ratbird Safety named Ed Reed show us how important the right Safety can be to winning or making THE difference. He scored TDs retuning INTs and punts just like Downs could be capable of. Making a move like picking Downs that pretty much meant Tate wasn't going to be available. That said, he's not the only WR in this draft; while the Browns certainly don't have a WR like Jeremiah Smith lining up on the other side of the formation to give Tate the easier matchup. That perk probably won't be available so whatever WR we do draft will probably face the opponent's best corner every week.
You and I and maybe a few others would happily co-sign a draft with Logan Jones. I like this a lot. If we could grab Jones in the third and trade out Jakobi Lane for a WR at 39. This draft checks all the boxes and my favorite taking a chance a lottery ticket on a third day QB if you don’t have one. Maybe Allar finds it down the road.
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You know, I've focused so much on tackles that I think are legit Left Tackles in the NFL.
We still have the GM who took a college RT in Jed Wills to play LT for us.
All the top tackles could very well be in play.
You know, I've focused so much on tackles that I think are legit Left Tackles in the NFL.
We still have the GM who took a college RT in Jed Wills to play LT for us.
All the top tackles could very well be in play.
I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
I have never been a LT or bust guy. If the LT of the future isn't there, don't try to manufacture one. Don't take a 95% good RT and try to make him a 60% good LT.
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You know, I've focused so much on tackles that I think are legit Left Tackles in the NFL.
We still have the GM who took a college RT in Jed Wills to play LT for us.
All the top tackles could very well be in play.
I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
I have never been a LT or bust guy. If the LT of the future isn't there, don't try to manufacture one. Don't take a 95% good RT and try to make him a 60% good LT.
I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
I have never been a LT or bust guy. If the LT of the future isn't there, don't try to manufacture one. Don't take a 95% good RT and try to make him a 60% good LT.
As we approach the draft, and have gotten within the two week mark, I think I've settled on the idea of taking Carnell Tate at 6 and Lomu at 24. That's kind of my "somewhat dream" scenario.
I say somewhat dream because I don't think Tate is a legit #1 WR prospect, but if he can become Tee Higgins, I'd be ok with that. Surround him with a good WR complementary pieces, a good running game, and Fannin and this offense can hum. I love the idea of getting Lomu at 24, even if I know his rookie season could be bumpy. Might take a season or two to see his potential.
My real dream scenario is for the Browns to be able to trade down from 6. I heard yet another Cowboys trade idea with the Browns - the Browns trade their #6 and 39 picks to the Cowboys for their #12 and 20.
Thus, the Browns would go down six spots with their first pick, but would go up four spots with their second pick and 15 spots with their third pick. #6, 24 and 39 vs #12, 20, and 24.
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You know, I've focused so much on tackles that I think are legit Left Tackles in the NFL.
We still have the GM who took a college RT in Jed Wills to play LT for us.
All the top tackles could very well be in play.
I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
I have never been a LT or bust guy. If the LT of the future isn't there, don't try to manufacture one. Don't take a 95% good RT and try to make him a 60% good LT.
I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
I have never been a LT or bust guy. If the LT of the future isn't there, don't try to manufacture one. Don't take a 95% good RT and try to make him a 60% good LT.
Just for shits and giggles, I watched some clips of Mauigoa this week. Not that I haven't seen some before that per say; but I've been so busy trying to convince myself I know what we need 1st in the land of white noise. Anyway, whenever Miami runs the ball and there's a tall blade of grass in Mauigoa's path - someone is getting John Deere tractor'd and it ain't Mauigoa. I don't care how long his arms are if the worst OL in the NFL desperately needs help - there's the ghost of Keith Jackson narrating his video: "Folks if you ever had a crazy thought in your head wondering what it would be like to take on a freight train - big ole #61 is putting on quite a clinic today about why you should reconsider. He's big, he's bad, and he'll gitchya!"
My point is - we're all just passionate fans so as much as we know about our team it still doesn't matter if we are right in here or not. We're here to talk about our team, share/challenge our opinions and have fun. It's okay to be wrong in here sometimes since we'e not getting paid to make the right choices. That said, it's fun when hindsight gives us a "Thatta boy!" every now and then.
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I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
I have never been a LT or bust guy. If the LT of the future isn't there, don't try to manufacture one. Don't take a 95% good RT and try to make him a 60% good LT.
As we approach the draft, and have gotten within the two week mark, I think I've settled on the idea of taking Carnell Tate at 6 and Lomu at 24. That's kind of my "somewhat dream" scenario.
I say somewhat dream because I don't think Tate is a legit #1 WR prospect, but if he can become Tee Higgins, I'd be ok with that. Surround him with a good WR complementary pieces, a good running game, and Fannin and this offense can hum. I love the idea of getting Lomu at 24, even if I know his rookie season could be bumpy. Might take a season or two to see his potential.
My real dream scenario is for the Browns to be able to trade down from 6. I heard yet another Cowboys trade idea with the Browns - the Browns trade their #6 and 39 picks to the Cowboys for their #12 and 20.
Thus, the Browns would go down six spots with their first pick, but would go up four spots with their second pick and 15 spots with their third pick. #6, 24 and 39 vs #12, 20, and 24.
As we approach the draft, and have gotten within the two week mark, I think I've settled on the idea of taking Carnell Tate at 6 and Lomu at 24. That's kind of my "somewhat dream" scenario.
I say somewhat dream because I don't think Tate is a legit #1 WR prospect, but if he can become Tee Higgins, I'd be ok with that. Surround him with a good WR complementary pieces, a good running game, and Fannin and this offense can hum. I love the idea of getting Lomu at 24, even if I know his rookie season could be bumpy. Might take a season or two to see his potential.
My real dream scenario is for the Browns to be able to trade down from 6. I heard yet another Cowboys trade idea with the Browns - the Browns trade their #6 and 39 picks to the Cowboys for their #12 and 20.
Thus, the Browns would go down six spots with their first pick, but would go up four spots with their second pick and 15 spots with their third pick. #6, 24 and 39 vs #12, 20, and 24.
STOP IT!
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As we approach the draft, and have gotten within the two week mark, I think I've settled on the idea of taking Carnell Tate at 6 and Lomu at 24. That's kind of my "somewhat dream" scenario.
I say somewhat dream because I don't think Tate is a legit #1 WR prospect, but if he can become Tee Higgins, I'd be ok with that. Surround him with a good WR complementary pieces, a good running game, and Fannin and this offense can hum. I love the idea of getting Lomu at 24, even if I know his rookie season could be bumpy. Might take a season or two to see his potential.
My real dream scenario is for the Browns to be able to trade down from 6. I heard yet another Cowboys trade idea with the Browns - the Browns trade their #6 and 39 picks to the Cowboys for their #12 and 20.
Thus, the Browns would go down six spots with their first pick, but would go up four spots with their second pick and 15 spots with their third pick. #6, 24 and 39 vs #12, 20, and 24.
STOP IT!
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The dirty dozen days till draft day in Pittsburgh.. Any I hate the Steeler shirts going to NFL draft? ?
The quite no hitter topic in the room....
IF ! !
What if * Joel Bitonio does announce his retirement this week ? (it's really odd no pictures of or working out?)
Where would your draft plans change to address the LG position if any?
Does Vega Loane/Mauigoa become a trade up/down option ? (Fano needs to beef up weight?)
WR/ LT/ LG/ Slot Corner?
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
The dirty dozen days till draft day in Pittsburgh.. Any I hate the Steeler shirts going to NFL draft? ?
The quite no hitter topic in the room....
IF ! !
What if * Joel Bitonio does announce his retirement this week ? (it's really odd no pictures of or working out?)
Where would your draft plans change to address the LG position if any?
Does Vega Loane/Mauigoa become a trade up/down option ? (Fano needs to beef up weight?)
WR/ LT/ LG/ Slot Corner?
The dirty dozen days till draft day in Pittsburgh.. Any I hate the Steeler shirts going to NFL draft? ?
The quite no hitter topic in the room....
IF ! !
What if * Joel Bitonio does announce his retirement this week ? (it's really odd no pictures of or working out?)
Where would your draft plans change to address the LG position if any?
Does Vega Loane/Mauigoa become a trade up/down option ? (Fano needs to beef up weight?)
WR/ LT/ LG/ Slot Corner?
Honestly I haven't expected Bitonio to come back considering he almost retired after the 2024 season. I haven't thought of him at all when considering this draft, because even if he returns you have to think he's done after this coming season.
And as I've said numerous times, this team is being built for Brookpark. That's why I'm not discounting the idea the Browns could take Downs, Styles, Reese or Bailey at 6. Ward probably will be retired by 2029 and Garrett - if he's still even with the Browns - will be approaching his mid 30s by then.
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The dirty dozen days till draft day in Pittsburgh.. Any I hate the Steeler shirts going to NFL draft? ?
The quite no hitter topic in the room....
IF ! !
What if * Joel Bitonio does announce his retirement this week ? (it's really odd no pictures of or working out?)
Where would your draft plans change to address the LG position if any?
Does Vega Loane/Mauigoa become a trade up/down option ? (Fano needs to beef up weight?)
WR/ LT/ LG/ Slot Corner?
The dirty dozen days till draft day in Pittsburgh.. Any I hate the Steeler shirts going to NFL draft? ?
The quite no hitter topic in the room....
IF ! !
What if * Joel Bitonio does announce his retirement this week ? (it's really odd no pictures of or working out?)
Where would your draft plans change to address the LG position if any?
Does Vega Loane/Mauigoa become a trade up/down option ? (Fano needs to beef up weight?)
WR/ LT/ LG/ Slot Corner?
Let's put it this way - we're showing up to an all you can eat dinner buffet on a very empty stomach; so everything looks delicious while we need to make healthy consumer selections. Gumbs, I also think we need a LBer that can be almost/as good as Devin Bush was at defending the pass. I'm not sure the FA LB we recently signed gives us this as much as he gives us depth; but I could be wrong there.
As much as I hate saying this, I hope Bitonio retires and leaves us nothing but fond memories of his GREAT career here. LOVED that guy from the land and background of Offensive Guards are people too...
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The dirty dozen days till draft day in Pittsburgh.. Any I hate the Steeler shirts going to NFL draft? ?
The quite no hitter topic in the room....
IF ! !
What if * Joel Bitonio does announce his retirement this week ? (it's really odd no pictures of or working out?)
Where would your draft plans change to address the LG position if any?
Does Vega Loane/Mauigoa become a trade up/down option ? (Fano needs to beef up weight?)
WR/ LT/ LG/ Slot Corner?
Let's put it this way - we're showing up to an all you can eat dinner buffet on a very empty stomach; so everything looks delicious while we need to make healthy consumer selections. Gumbs, I also think we need a LBer that can be almost/as good as Devin Bush was at defending the pass. I'm not sure the FA LB we recently signed gives us this as much as he gives us depth; but I could be wrong there.
As much as I hate saying this, I hope Bitonio retires and leaves us nothing but fond memories of his GREAT career here. LOVED that guy from the land and background of Offensive Guards are people too...
Gumbs, I also think we need a LBer that can be almost/as good as Devin Bush was at defending the pass.
Got a sequoia ball crush on LB Anthony Hill Jr from Texas. I've watched Anthony Hill gain steam to inside pick #50 now..(posted highlight video somewhere) And LT from Miami Markell Bell ? steaming from a over #300 prospect to inside the Top 100 now.. NFL GM's love Big Molly's! Bell's got a better start on Proctor... in weight loss program. Markell Bell did visit with Browns..so AB has turned under every rock in LT options .. stay tuned folks !
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The dirty dozen days till draft day in Pittsburgh.. Any I hate the Steeler shirts going to NFL draft? ?
The quite no hitter topic in the room....
IF ! !
What if * Joel Bitonio does announce his retirement this week ? (it's really odd no pictures of or working out?)
Where would your draft plans change to address the LG position if any?
Does Vega Loane/Mauigoa become a trade up/down option ? (Fano needs to beef up weight?)
WR/ LT/ LG/ Slot Corner?
The dirty dozen days till draft day in Pittsburgh.. Any I hate the Steeler shirts going to NFL draft? ?
The quite no hitter topic in the room....
We might even be thanking more Steeler fans than Browns fans for wearing all those shirts after so many consecutive post season 1 and dones that your buddy Flugel lost count...
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Gumbs, I also think we need a LBer that can be almost/as good as Devin Bush was at defending the pass.
Got a sequoia ball crush on LB Anthony Hill Jr from Texas. I've watched Anthony Hill gain steam to inside pick #50 now..(posted highlight video somewhere) And LT from Miami Markell Bell ? steaming from a over #300 prospect to inside the Top 100 now.. NFL GM's love Big Molly's! Bell's got a better start on Proctor... in weight loss program. Markell Bell did visit with Browns..so AB has turned under every rock in LT options .. stay tuned folks !
Got a sequoia ball crush on LB Anthony Hill Jr from Texas. I've watched Anthony Hill gain steam to inside pick #50 now..(posted highlight video somewhere) And LT from Miami Markell Bell ? steaming from a over #300 prospect to inside the Top 100 now.. NFL GM's love Big Molly's! Bell's got a better start on Proctor... in weight loss program. Markell Bell did visit with Browns..so AB has turned under every rock in LT options .. stay tuned folks !
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You know, I've focused so much on tackles that I think are legit Left Tackles in the NFL.
We still have the GM who took a college RT in Jed Wills to play LT for us.
All the top tackles could very well be in play.
I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
I have never been a LT or bust guy. If the LT of the future isn't there, don't try to manufacture one. Don't take a 95% good RT and try to make him a 60% good LT.
I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
But not at pick #6, right?
We supposedly brought in a RT. (who could be moved to Guard) Gave him a big contract too.
We need a LT. Unless you want to say that we need both. In which case we paid a Guard, RT money.
As we approach the draft, and have gotten within the two week mark, I think I've settled on the idea of taking Carnell Tate at 6 and Lomu at 24.
I'm all in on that!
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I agree. We need both sides at tackle. If we take a RT and he becomes a good player, I am good with that.
But not at pick #6, right?
We supposedly brought in a RT. (who could be moved to Guard) Gave him a big contract too.
We need a LT. Unless you want to say that we need both. In which case we paid a Guard, RT money.
As we approach the draft, and have gotten within the two week mark, I think I've settled on the idea of taking Carnell Tate at 6 and Lomu at 24.
I'm all in on that!
But not at pick #6, right?
We supposedly brought in a RT. (who could be moved to Guard) Gave him a big contract too.
We need a LT. Unless you want to say that we need both. In which case we paid a Guard, RT money.
I'm all in on that!
No, not at 6, I don't think any of the tackles are worthy of the #6 pick.
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