Myles Garret traded to LA Rams
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The thing I'm worried about is Browns fans holding the Myles trade against Jared Verse.
Verse is a really good all-around edge player, but he's no Myles Garrett. In fact, there's a very good chance we as Browns fans will never see a defensive player wear orange and brown as good in our collective lifetimes.
The Browns will need to in the future find them another Jared Verse to pair with the original.
The thing I'm worried about is Browns fans holding the Myles trade against Jared Verse.
Verse is a really good all-around edge player, but he's no Myles Garrett. In fact, there's a very good chance we as Browns fans will never see a defensive player wear orange and brown as good in our collective lifetimes.
The Browns will need to in the future find them another Jared Verse to pair with the original.
FWIW, Verse has played 2 NFL seasons and made the Pro Bowl in both of them (as well as earning NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2024). The Defense now has the last 2 Defensive Rookies of the Year in it while the 5th overall pick in 2025 will be frequently lining up next to Verse.
Myles is going to be our 2nd consecutive 1st ballot HOF player to be sentenced to a franchise that just never had the right passing game/QB in place. In Joe Thomas' rookie year - the Browns won 10 games but still didn't make it to the playoffs. The Browns won 11 games twice while Myles was here. Unfortunately they could ONLY win 1 playoff game in Pittsburgh on a day the Browns D intercepted Roethlisberger 4 times and recovered Pittsburgh's 1st snap of the game in the end zone for a TD.
Speaking of Myles Garrett, he was the 1st pick overall in the 2017 draft. That said, Patrick Mahomes was the 10th pick overall in that same draft by Andy Reid & John Dorsey - while good judgment from the top was exercised by starting QB Alex Smith (a former 1st overall pick in SF) for the entire 2017 season. It DOES help when there's already a playoff caliber team in place when the RIGHT QB comes along.
Aside from wondering if the next draft is finally going to line up the best possible franchise QB with 1 or both of our 1st round picks (in 2027) - will the coaching staff be able to develop him the right way without Jimmy interfering? If we do need to lose enough to compete for the best 2 QB prospects in the 2027 draft - why not just start Shedeur from the get-go this year? Would it really suck if Shedeur exceeded all expectations here to the extent we didn't even need to draft a QB next year? It'll be interesting to see what unfolds...
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The other thing to remember in all of this- there was NEVER going to be a package that was fair for Myles Garrett when you really think about it. The man when it's all said and done could easily have both the highest single sack season and the all-time sack record, it addition to them already fitting his gold jacket. This is all in the context of him being in his physical prime.
I can tell you this much, though- I ain't buying a single sunday ticket package or anything other than sailing the high internet seas to watch the Browns this year. I completely understand why this happened, but it's not going to be pretty this year.
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Both teams are in different positions, but if you were a Rams fan how would you feel about this trade?
I haven't seen any of Verse so nothing against him at all but I'd feel like we got away with robbery.
As a Browns fan, I try to stay optimistic and as with anything else, let's see how it goes.
I can't imagine them tanking on purpose but who knows, I think we do ok this year.
As far as draft position, I think we'll screw it up again.
Since Myles is no longer here I do not wish him the best though I hope he stays healthy and I hope the Rams crash and burn.
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Both teams are in different positions, but if you were a Rams fan how would you feel about this trade?
I haven't seen any of Verse so nothing against him at all but I'd feel like we got away with robbery.
As a Browns fan, I try to stay optimistic and as with anything else, let's see how it goes.
I can't imagine them tanking on purpose but who knows, I think we do ok this year.
As far as draft position, I think we'll screw it up again.
Since Myles is no longer here I do not wish him the best though I hope he stays healthy and I hope the Rams crash and burn.
Both teams are in different positions, but if you were a Rams fan how would you feel about this trade?
I haven't seen any of Verse so nothing against him at all but I'd feel like we got away with robbery.
As a Browns fan, I try to stay optimistic and as with anything else, let's see how it goes.
I can't imagine them tanking on purpose but who knows, I think we do ok this year.
As far as draft position, I think we'll screw it up again.
Since Myles is no longer here I do not wish him the best though I hope he stays healthy and I hope the Rams crash and burn.
Living by a few out here…they didn’t want Verse included. When Myles name came up…they were excited about the Verse Myles pairing.
if I am going to nitpick I don’t have faith in the Rams beyond next season (if old man Stafford gets hurt they arent making the playoffs) so instead of a 2nd and 3rd the following years another 1st in 28 or even 29 would have been great.
Anyone look at the Rams schedule next season it is brutal in the beginning and towards the end. They could easily miss the playoffs or even be first round exit.
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Both teams are in different positions, but if you were a Rams fan how would you feel about this trade?
I haven't seen any of Verse so nothing against him at all but I'd feel like we got away with robbery.
As a Browns fan, I try to stay optimistic and as with anything else, let's see how it goes.
I can't imagine them tanking on purpose but who knows, I think we do ok this year.
As far as draft position, I think we'll screw it up again.
Since Myles is no longer here I do not wish him the best though I hope he stays healthy and I hope the Rams crash and burn.
Living by a few out here…they didn’t want Verse included. When Myles name came up…they were excited about the Verse Myles pairing.
if I am going to nitpick I don’t have faith in the Rams beyond next season (if old man Stafford gets hurt they arent making the playoffs) so instead of a 2nd and 3rd the following years another 1st in 28 or even 29 would have been great.
Anyone look at the Rams schedule next season it is brutal in the beginning and towards the end. They could easily miss the playoffs or even be first round exit.
Anyone look at the Rams schedule next season it is brutal in the beginning and towards the end. They could easily miss the playoffs or even be first round exit
nope, but i do know they have the 9ers and hawks twice
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Anyone look at the Rams schedule next season it is brutal in the beginning and towards the end. They could easily miss the playoffs or even be first round exit
nope, but i do know they have the 9ers and hawks twice
nope, but i do know they have the 9ers and hawks twice
And Chiefs, Bills, Broncos, Eagles, Packers, Cowboys, Bucs
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The other thing to remember in all of this- there was NEVER going to be a package that was fair for Myles Garrett when you really think about it. The man when it's all said and done could easily have both the highest single sack season and the all-time sack record, it addition to them already fitting his gold jacket. This is all in the context of him being in his physical prime.
I can tell you this much, though- I ain't buying a single sunday ticket package or anything other than sailing the high internet seas to watch the Browns this year. I completely understand why this happened, but it's not going to be pretty this year.
The other thing to remember in all of this- there was NEVER going to be a package that was fair for Myles Garrett when you really think about it. The man when it's all said and done could easily have both the highest single sack season and the all-time sack record, it addition to them already fitting his gold jacket. This is all in the context of him being in his physical prime.
I can tell you this much, though- I ain't buying a single sunday ticket package or anything other than sailing the high internet seas to watch the Browns this year. I completely understand why this happened, but it's not going to be pretty this year.
This is why there was a strong case to hold onto him. This may shock the world but not every team can fit Myles in financially or can handle the asset departure and some aren’t at a point and time where it makes sense. So we didn’t have 25-30 offers.
You don’t get like for like with a first ballot hall of famer with prime years left. Because you aren’t getting that player in return at a premium position. They are unicorns.
So you hope Verse becomes very good and hits double digit sack numbers and you use all these picks now to hopefully find us the best QB we’ve had since Graham or Kosar. And the money you aren’t paying Myles you take it and spend it wisely adding some other talent. Hopefully 4 or 5 equals 1.
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Hate to say this, but a Matt Stafford injury would really help.
Ooo, you're evil.
I was thinking the same thing while posting my post earlier....but I didn't say it...'cuz it's evil.
We now have two second round picks in '28...so one of those could be used as part of a trade deal for a '27 QB.
Lookin' more and more like Haslam wants the Mannings involved with his team as opposed to the Sanders'.
Lookin' more and more like Haslam wants the Mannings involved with his team as opposed to the Sanders'.
I hope not.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
And Chiefs, Bills, Broncos, Eagles, Packers, Cowboys, Bucs
Good,Fuck Em. I hope it blows up in their face this time, fuck the lambs
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Verse was the 2nd best run stopper in the league even ahead of Myles. It's apples and oranges though because Myles was double teamed so much more. But I think the run stopper value of Verse is being overlooked.
And how does this work out with the money & cap side? Does this free enough to go find another decent free agent DE on the other side?
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Looks to me like they are saying we tank this season and use draft capital to get the QB we really need in the 2027 draft. And that this is a statement that we know we do not have the QB currently. I can't disagree with that assessment unfortunately.
Looks to me like they are saying we tank this season and use draft capital to get the QB we really need in the 2027 draft. And that this is a statement that we know we do not have the QB currently. I can't disagree with that assessment unfortunately.
At this point I almost wish we would have just lost the last two games of last season, ended up with the first overall pick and we’d be going into training camp next month with Mendoza as the QB of the future.
It makes you wonder… if it would have played out that way, would the Browns have still traded Myles? They’d already have their QB, so the need for draft capital wouldn’t be there now.
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Verse was the 2nd best run stopper in the league even ahead of Myles. It's apples and oranges though because Myles was double teamed so much more. But I think the run stopper value of Verse is being overlooked.
And how does this work out with the money & cap side? Does this free enough to go find another decent free agent DE on the other side?
Verse was the 2nd best run stopper in the league even ahead of Myles. It's apples and oranges though because Myles was double teamed so much more. But I think the run stopper value of Verse is being overlooked.
And how does this work out with the money & cap side? Does this free enough to go find another decent free agent DE on the other side?
Verse is going to get paid very soon. His agent is salivating.
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I hope not.
IF Arch comes to Cleveland, the Manning family will be welcomed with open arms and offered to buy equity in the team- I'd almost guarantee it. Easy way to drum up interest in the new stadium. See Tom Brady and the Raiders. Also makes it way less likely for him to pull an Eli to the Chargers moment.
This is why there was a strong case to hold onto him. This may shock the world but not every team can fit Myles in financially or can handle the asset departure and some aren’t at a point and time where it makes sense. So we didn’t have 25-30 offers.
You don’t get like for like with a first ballot hall of famer with prime years left. Because you aren’t getting that player in return at a premium position. They are unicorns.
So you hope Verse becomes very good and hits double digit sack numbers and you use all these picks now to hopefully find us the best QB we’ve had since Graham or Kosar. And the money you aren’t paying Myles you take it and spend it wisely adding some other talent. Hopefully 4 or 5 equals 1.
Indeed, my friend- indeed. We saw a small glimpse of Myles with competent QB play in 2019-2020 and, God willing, it would have been awesome to see that in three years with an up and coming rookie QB. Alas, three years in NFL terms may as well be a decade in others.
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The other thing to remember in all of this- there was NEVER going to be a package that was fair for Myles Garrett when you really think about it. The man when it's all said and done could easily have both the highest single sack season and the all-time sack record, it addition to them already fitting his gold jacket. This is all in the context of him being in his physical prime.
I can tell you this much, though- I ain't buying a single sunday ticket package or anything other than sailing the high internet seas to watch the Browns this year. I completely understand why this happened, but it's not going to be pretty this year.
This is why there was a strong case to hold onto him. This may shock the world but not every team can fit Myles in financially or can handle the asset departure and some aren’t at a point and time where it makes sense. So we didn’t have 25-30 offers.
You don’t get like for like with a first ballot hall of famer with prime years left. Because you aren’t getting that player in return at a premium position. They are unicorns.
So you hope Verse becomes very good and hits double digit sack numbers and you use all these picks now to hopefully find us the best QB we’ve had since Graham or Kosar. And the money you aren’t paying Myles you take it and spend it wisely adding some other talent. Hopefully 4 or 5 equals 1.
So you hope Verse becomes very good
He all ready is very good, I will add top tier at his position
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What a terrible trade. This trade in my opinion does little to help you acquire a QB in the next draft. I would like to know why they felt they must trade him now after just resigning him.
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I hope not.
IF Arch comes to Cleveland, the Manning family will be welcomed with open arms and offered to buy equity in the team- I'd almost guarantee it. Easy way to drum up interest in the new stadium. See Tom Brady and the Raiders. Also makes it way less likely for him to pull an Eli to the Chargers moment.
This is why there was a strong case to hold onto him. This may shock the world but not every team can fit Myles in financially or can handle the asset departure and some aren’t at a point and time where it makes sense. So we didn’t have 25-30 offers.
You don’t get like for like with a first ballot hall of famer with prime years left. Because you aren’t getting that player in return at a premium position. They are unicorns.
So you hope Verse becomes very good and hits double digit sack numbers and you use all these picks now to hopefully find us the best QB we’ve had since Graham or Kosar. And the money you aren’t paying Myles you take it and spend it wisely adding some other talent. Hopefully 4 or 5 equals 1.
Indeed, my friend- indeed. We saw a small glimpse of Myles with competent QB play in 2019-2020 and, God willing, it would have been awesome to see that in three years with an up and coming rookie QB. Alas, three years in NFL terms may as well be a decade in others.
IF Arch comes to Cleveland, the Manning family will be welcomed with open arms and offered to buy equity in the team- I'd almost guarantee it. Easy way to drum up interest in the new stadium. See Tom Brady and the Raiders. Also makes it way less likely for him to pull an Eli to the Chargers moment.
Do you see franchise QB in Arch Manning?
Me neither.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
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