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  • JaxJ Jax

    @ibleedbrown said:

    The “fuck you and your body cams” thing. Maybe l misunderstood you, but it seemed like you weren’t a fan. You’ve been a little overdramatic in this thread though.

    You trying to troll now like your buddy woody?

    Having a body cam and whether a federal agent was justified in self defense are 2 different issues.

    Not wearing a body cam doesn't automatically make him guilty of murder, but you 2 knock yourselves out twisting the story again.

    I think body cams are great for the agents wearing them so they don't get accused of wrong doing by the trust worthy criminals trying to kill them.

    Not over dramatic, just the opposite, shutting down you and your buddies drama over nothing.

    @jax said:

    I think body cams are great for the agents wearing them so they don't get accused of wrong doing by the trust worthy criminals trying to kill them.

    Not over dramatic, just the opposite, shutting down you and your buddies drama over nothing.

    There you go, a simple misunderstanding. You’re still being a little dramatic. “Shutting down you and your buddies…” Come on man. All of that just to find out we agree on body cams?

    Let’s enjoy the moment, lol.

  • Hilarious to believe everything ICE says when we know they've lied in the past...

  • Hilarious to believe everything ICE says when we know they've lied in the past...

    @mld-woody said:

    Hilarious to believe everything ICE says when we know they've lied in the past...

    Criminals and illegals never lie...they're innocent, they told me!

  • JaxJ Jax

    @mld-woody said:

    Hilarious to believe everything ICE says when we know they've lied in the past...

    Criminals and illegals never lie...they're innocent, they told me!

    @jax said:

    Criminals and illegals never lie...they're innocent, they told me!

    What was the murdered man's crime?

  • @jax said:

    Criminals and illegals never lie...they're innocent, they told me!

    What was the murdered man's crime?

    @mld-woody said:

    What was the murdered man's crime?

    He tried to run over an agent...

  • JaxJ Jax

    @mld-woody said:

    What was the murdered man's crime?

    He tried to run over an agent...

    @jax said:

    He tried to run over an agent...

    If you believe ICE, who have been caught lying about this exact same thing before.

    So until we get actual evidence, I'm not sure how you can 100% believe that.

    On the other hand, we do know the ICE agent that did the killing had a history of violent behavior.

    https://apnews.com/article/ice-david-brouillette-johan-guerrero-maine-shooting-dbc30d6d59e2a95fb470afc188e125c6

  • @jax said:

    He tried to run over an agent...

    If you believe ICE, who have been caught lying about this exact same thing before.

    So until we get actual evidence, I'm not sure how you can 100% believe that.

    On the other hand, we do know the ICE agent that did the killing had a history of violent behavior.

    https://apnews.com/article/ice-david-brouillette-johan-guerrero-maine-shooting-dbc30d6d59e2a95fb470afc188e125c6

    @mld-woody said:

    If you believe ICE, who have been caught lying about this exact same thing before.

    So until we get actual evidence, I'm not sure how you can 100% believe that.

    On the other hand, we do know the ICE agent that did the killing had a history of violent behavior.

    https://apnews.com/article/ice-david-brouillette-johan-guerrero-maine-shooting-dbc30d6d59e2a95fb470afc188e125c6

    Oh ok, so now you want to talk about the person, not the organization?

    You know there's a distinct difference right?

    A nurse was caught killing patients, do you blame all nurses? Shall we abolish nurses? There's been cases of multiple nurses killing patients before as well, proof positive in your eyes right?

    Of course we don't abolish nurses, but since it's an individual of an organization you dislike, then we must include the organization instead of the individual.

    You don't think about or debate honestly, that's why this forum goes around in circles. You lefties are purely dishonest and spoon fed propaganda.

    We're arguing against illegals as a whole because guess what? It's in the name, they broke our laws and the laws are in place because we know what happens to a country with unchecked borders, at least the grown ups know.

  • JaxJ Jax

    @mld-woody said:

    If you believe ICE, who have been caught lying about this exact same thing before.

    So until we get actual evidence, I'm not sure how you can 100% believe that.

    On the other hand, we do know the ICE agent that did the killing had a history of violent behavior.

    https://apnews.com/article/ice-david-brouillette-johan-guerrero-maine-shooting-dbc30d6d59e2a95fb470afc188e125c6

    Oh ok, so now you want to talk about the person, not the organization?

    You know there's a distinct difference right?

    A nurse was caught killing patients, do you blame all nurses? Shall we abolish nurses? There's been cases of multiple nurses killing patients before as well, proof positive in your eyes right?

    Of course we don't abolish nurses, but since it's an individual of an organization you dislike, then we must include the organization instead of the individual.

    You don't think about or debate honestly, that's why this forum goes around in circles. You lefties are purely dishonest and spoon fed propaganda.

    We're arguing against illegals as a whole because guess what? It's in the name, they broke our laws and the laws are in place because we know what happens to a country with unchecked borders, at least the grown ups know.

    @jax said:

    Oh ok, so now you want to talk about the person, not the organization?

    You know there's a distinct difference right?

    A nurse was caught killing patients, do you blame all nurses? Shall we abolish nurses? There's been cases of multiple nurses killing patients before as well, proof positive in your eyes right?

    Of course we don't abolish nurses, but since it's an individual of an organization you dislike, then we must include the organization instead of the individual.

    You don't think about or debate honestly, that's why this forum goes around in circles. You lefties are purely dishonest and spoon fed propaganda.

    We're arguing against illegals as a whole because guess what? It's in the name, they broke our laws and the laws are in place because we know what happens to a country with unchecked borders, at least the grown ups know.

    What in the word salad tantrum are you going on about? The only one flailing and changing the subject is you.

    I'm talking about this incident

    And, fyi, the guy he killed had work authorization to be here. He wasn't an illegal. But I know how you people think...

  • @jax said:

    Oh ok, so now you want to talk about the person, not the organization?

    You know there's a distinct difference right?

    A nurse was caught killing patients, do you blame all nurses? Shall we abolish nurses? There's been cases of multiple nurses killing patients before as well, proof positive in your eyes right?

    Of course we don't abolish nurses, but since it's an individual of an organization you dislike, then we must include the organization instead of the individual.

    You don't think about or debate honestly, that's why this forum goes around in circles. You lefties are purely dishonest and spoon fed propaganda.

    We're arguing against illegals as a whole because guess what? It's in the name, they broke our laws and the laws are in place because we know what happens to a country with unchecked borders, at least the grown ups know.

    What in the word salad tantrum are you going on about? The only one flailing and changing the subject is you.

    I'm talking about this incident

    And, fyi, the guy he killed had work authorization to be here. He wasn't an illegal. But I know how you people think...

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    @mld-woody said:

    ***ASSbird woodpecker FART***

    running away from the police is a CRIME. Trying to run over an agent to get away is a CRIME.

    All the victims of RAPE, MURDER, DRUG and SEX TRAFFICKING you ignore, but you "care" about this

    crook from Columbia?

    Shove it up your dishonest, ignorant beak.

    You ASSBIRD bitch about no body cameras, while your socialist/communist "democrat" party wants to not fund ICE.

    Need funding for those cameras.

    ASSWHOLE.

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    @mld-woody said:

    ***ASSbird woodpecker FART***

    running away from the police is a CRIME. Trying to run over an agent to get away is a CRIME.

    All the victims of RAPE, MURDER, DRUG and SEX TRAFFICKING you ignore, but you "care" about this

    crook from Columbia?

    Shove it up your dishonest, ignorant beak.

    You ASSBIRD bitch about no body cameras, while your socialist/communist "democrat" party wants to not fund ICE.

    Need funding for those cameras.

    ASSWHOLE.

    @calfoxwc said:

    .

    running away from the police is a CRIME. Trying to run over an agent to get away is a CRIME.

    All the victims of RAPE, MURDER, DRUG and SEX TRAFFICKING you ignore, but you "care" about this

    crook from Columbia?

    Shove it up your dishonest, ignorant beak.

    You ASSBIRD bitch about no body cameras, while your socialist/communist "democrat" party wants to not fund ICE.

    Need funding for those cameras.

    ASSWHOLE.

    What proof do you have that he committed a crime?

  • @calfoxwc said:

    .

    running away from the police is a CRIME. Trying to run over an agent to get away is a CRIME.

    All the victims of RAPE, MURDER, DRUG and SEX TRAFFICKING you ignore, but you "care" about this

    crook from Columbia?

    Shove it up your dishonest, ignorant beak.

    You ASSBIRD bitch about no body cameras, while your socialist/communist "democrat" party wants to not fund ICE.

    Need funding for those cameras.

    ASSWHOLE.

    What proof do you have that he committed a crime?

    @mld-woody said:

    What proof do you have that he committed a crime?

    Police may detain and question people, especially if they are investigating without a known crime if there's a complaint or reason of suspicion.

    In this case, the driver was coming from the address of the house they were investigating.

    They had a legal right to stop him, but the guy driving did not have a right to refuse or try to run them over.

    "The U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which includes ICE, said in a post on X that agents were surveilling an address for a person with a final order of removal from the country. When ICE tried to stop a vehicle driven by someone coming from that address, the "vehicle attempted to flee the scene and, fearing for public safety, an officer discharged his weapon,” the department said."

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/fatal-shooting-in-biddeford-maine-involved-ice-22343180.php

    Again, maybe it's a case where this guy was fearful of the ICE agents. A lot of rhetoric out there, especially from our own politicians and people in media about how ICE are masked bandits kidnapping and murdering everyone. If the message was to simply comply it would make things safer for everyone involved. ICE isn't going away, they are doing their job as they should.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    .

    running away from the police is a CRIME. Trying to run over an agent to get away is a CRIME.

    All the victims of RAPE, MURDER, DRUG and SEX TRAFFICKING you ignore, but you "care" about this

    crook from Columbia?

    Shove it up your dishonest, ignorant beak.

    You ASSBIRD bitch about no body cameras, while your socialist/communist "democrat" party wants to not fund ICE.

    Need funding for those cameras.

    ASSWHOLE.

    What proof do you have that he committed a crime?

    @mld-woody said:

    ***ANOTHER STUPID WOODPECKER FART***

    See? I just explained his crimes, it doesn't matter if he isn't an illegal,

    Read our posts, and try to STFU if you can't legitimately contribute to the subject at hand.

  • @mld-woody said:

    ***ANOTHER STUPID WOODPECKER FART***

    See? I just explained his crimes, it doesn't matter if he isn't an illegal,

    Read our posts, and try to STFU if you can't legitimately contribute to the subject at hand.

    @calfoxwc said:

    See? I just explained his crimes, it doesn't matter if he isn't an illegal,

    Read our posts, and try to STFU if you can't legitimately contribute to the subject at hand.

    Right, all that matters to you is that he's an immigrant. We all get it man ....

    And you still haven't provided any proof

  • JaxJ Jax

    @mld-woody said:

    What proof do you have that he committed a crime?

    Police may detain and question people, especially if they are investigating without a known crime if there's a complaint or reason of suspicion.

    In this case, the driver was coming from the address of the house they were investigating.

    They had a legal right to stop him, but the guy driving did not have a right to refuse or try to run them over.

    "The U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which includes ICE, said in a post on X that agents were surveilling an address for a person with a final order of removal from the country. When ICE tried to stop a vehicle driven by someone coming from that address, the "vehicle attempted to flee the scene and, fearing for public safety, an officer discharged his weapon,” the department said."

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/fatal-shooting-in-biddeford-maine-involved-ice-22343180.php

    Again, maybe it's a case where this guy was fearful of the ICE agents. A lot of rhetoric out there, especially from our own politicians and people in media about how ICE are masked bandits kidnapping and murdering everyone. If the message was to simply comply it would make things safer for everyone involved. ICE isn't going away, they are doing their job as they should.

    @jax said:

    Police may detain and question people, especially if they are investigating without a known crime if there's a complaint or reason of suspicion.

    In this case, the driver was coming from the address of the house they were investigating.

    They had a legal right to stop him, but the guy driving did not have a right to refuse or try to run them over.

    "The U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which includes ICE, said in a post on X that agents were surveilling an address for a person with a final order of removal from the country. When ICE tried to stop a vehicle driven by someone coming from that address, the "vehicle attempted to flee the scene and, fearing for public safety, an officer discharged his weapon,” the department said."

    https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/fatal-shooting-in-biddeford-maine-involved-ice-22343180.php

    Again, maybe it's a case where this guy was fearful of the ICE agents. A lot of rhetoric out there, especially from our own politicians and people in media about how ICE are masked bandits kidnapping and murdering everyone. If the message was to simply comply it would make things safer for everyone involved. ICE isn't going away, they are doing their job as they should.

    "This guy probably believed the media lies about reckless, unqualified ICE agents murdering everyone!"

    That guy was murdered by an ICE agent with a history of violent outbursts that apparently couldn't pass the test to be a firefighter

    We still have zero proof he didn't anything remotely warranting getting 5 shots unleaded into his windshield.

    You MAGA nutjobs will blindly believe anything ICE says even though we have proof they've lied in the past.

    Let's not joke around about your actual motivations here...

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  • no comment from the ASSBIRD?

    woodpecker ignores reality at every chance.

  • no comment from the ASSBIRD?

    woodpecker ignores reality at every chance.

    @calfoxwc said:

    no comment from the ASSBIRD?

    woodpecker ignores reality at every chance.

    Cal you haven't stepped foot in reality in a decade

  • no comment from the ASSBIRD?

    woodpecker ignores reality at every chance.

    @calfoxwc said:

    no comment from the ASSBIRD?

    woodpecker ignores reality at every chance.

    Assbird is Mentally Irregular.. The best thing to do is ignore him

  • May be an image of text that says 'AGING Raging Americans AMERICANG @RagingAmericans "How come it was okay to celebrate ICE under Obama, networks even rode along showing their 'marvelous work' but now with Trump it's suddenly evil and ICE needs to be banned?" -Stephen -StephenA.Smith A. Smith'

  • When you dumbasses pivot to failed gotchas and "but but but Obama!" it's clear you've got nothing.

    1) Obama was no saint. He was not perfect

    2) I thought Obama was all "open borders"? How does he have detained illegals with open borders?

    3) that number is still less than Trump, and Trump has years left

    And most importantly... That number has nothing to do with what we're talking about. It's just a smokescreen attempt to change the subject because you have nothing.

    We're talking about armed, masked ICE agents killing citizens and noncitizens alike in our streets. ICE agents invading cities by order of the president. Violence and community disruption directly from orders of the admin.

    And in this particular case we have an immigrant with work authorization killed by an ICE agent with a demonstrated history of violence and mental health issues and still zero evidence provided by ICE to justify the shooting.

    But you morons will believe ICE and this admin no matter what, even with zero evidence provided. And we all know why that's the case