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  • 8PM (EST) tonight - going to take a fresh look at Darian Mensah vs NCState (2025) All 22 on discord. I've got to get more charting done.

    For anyone that would like to join for the "rough draft" viewing, I'd encourage to join, share your thoughts, questions, etc etc.

    https://discord.gg/9amfywfWZ

    @tiamat63 said:

    8PM (EST) tonight - going to take a fresh look at Darian Mensah vs NCState (2025) All 22 on discord. I've got to get more charting done.

    For anyone that would like to join for the "rough draft" viewing, I'd encourage to join, share your thoughts, questions, etc etc.

    https://discord.gg/9amfywfWZ

    While you were on discord....I was on DisChord, DatChord and DeOtherChord.....Playing my Gretsch Pristine Jet Ltd. 🙂

  • @tiamat63 said:

    It's Fantasy Football, just in a different format. You can have free leagues just as you'd have fee leagues.

    The dollar values, like the screenshots I posted above, are purely a simulated, "stock market like" type of presentation. It functions as users can "buy" shares of a player out of a pre-determined IPO pool.

    There's no actual money being exchanged (apart from league fees)

    Fantasy Football has been around for 30 years now.

    I should've added 'Just Saying' to my comment. I've been in many fantasy football leagues. And I've run my share of them. As a matter of fact, I've run a little Yahoo league for the last couple of years for my young grandsons to be part of....along with Mrs. Wife, their Mom and her boyfriend (we hate her ex husband...but the boys think of him as daddy) 😞

    I should've clarified that I've got no beef with fantasy football. But truly dislike all of the gambling around sports that there is in this day and age.

    @orion said:

    I should've added 'Just Saying' to my comment. I've been in many fantasy football leagues. And I've run my share of them. As a matter of fact, I've run a little Yahoo league for the last couple of years for my young grandsons to be part of....along with Mrs. Wife, their Mom and her boyfriend (we hate her ex husband...but the boys think of him as daddy) 😞

    I should've clarified that I've got no beef with fantasy football. But truly dislike all of the gambling around sports that there is in this day and age.

    I had no idea I'd lose a mouthful of coffee when I started reading this reply, but it was worth it... I've been in the same 12 man league since 2004 that started in Rochester, NY; and continued on as we've scattered all over the country. We still have 7 or 8 of the original guys using the Yahoo scoing system with PPR and vaious bonuses for rushing/receiving yardages exceeding 100 yards in a game or anyone exceeding 300 passing yards in a game. 6 points per TD. 1 guy that teaches an honors course for a high school out in CA pays for a team and lets 2 or 3 kids run his roster (and he also let's them split the winnings). They're always 1 of the 4 teams that earn 1 of the 4 playoff spots lately. JMO, I don't think he's teaching them to gamble since it's his money paying for it.

    We all have a competitive side in here or we wouldn't be here rooting like crazy for celebrating and sharing our 1st sports miracle together since 1964. On the merciful side of all this, many of us have favorite college and/or high school football teams that have been capable of winning Championships much more recently. If that ain't working - YES, there's fantasy football. If you DO play Fantasy Football - don't be that sissy that let's Yahoo auto-draft your team every year...

  • RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Not to beat a dead horse, but I'm still scratching my head at the Dante Moore, 2026 1st Rd grades.

    4 Verts (clear - go to grass) vs Cover 3 w/ Weak Rotate
    > W/S safety is going to poach & carry strong #3
    > S/S safety is going to leverage btw strong #2 & #3 to recover inside to Show more

    @tiamat63 said:

    Well done TJ! I've been a critic of his too! I don't see him as an NFL Franchise QB. The things he should be most consistent and efficient with - he hasn't been the times I've seen him. Oregon outclasses a lot of their opponents to the extent even a guy like Dillon Gabriel can put up eye catching stats at the ease of a layup with that adavantage. He needs a lot more work on what he does from the point he gets the snap until the time he releases the throw; because it was a flippin mess. He put the ball on the ground during playaction fakes sometimes without any defender causing it too much for comfort.

    This may be a moot point because Oregon is in the shot-gun a high pecentage of the time. That being the case you know what I didn't pay any attention to TJ - that you might have? At any/all direct snaps under Center, how often does Dante Moore open to his right? Or, to his left? And does one of those have a much bigger influence in the sloppiness he needs to clean up in play-action?

  • @tiamat63 said:

    8PM (EST) tonight - going to take a fresh look at Darian Mensah vs NCState (2025) All 22 on discord. I've got to get more charting done.

    For anyone that would like to join for the "rough draft" viewing, I'd encourage to join, share your thoughts, questions, etc etc.

    https://discord.gg/9amfywfWZ

    While you were on discord....I was on DisChord, DatChord and DeOtherChord.....Playing my Gretsch Pristine Jet Ltd. 🙂

    @orion said:

    While you were on discord....I was on DisChord, DatChord and DeOtherChord.....Playing my Gretsch Pristine Jet Ltd. 🙂

    Hammer away on that piece bubs.

    We're going to have another session at 7pm tonight that should run about an hour.

    @flugel said:

    Well done TJ! I've been a critic of his too! I don't see him as an NFL Franchise QB. The things he should be most consistent and efficient with - he hasn't been the times I've seen him. Oregon outclasses a lot of their opponents to the extent even a guy like Dillon Gabriel can put up eye catching stats at the ease of a layup with that adavantage. He needs a lot more work on what he does from the point he gets the snap until the time he releases the throw; because it was a flippin mess. He put the ball on the ground during playaction fakes sometimes without any defender causing it too much for comfort.

    This may be a moot point because Oregon is in the shot-gun a high pecentage of the time. That being the case you know what I didn't pay any attention to TJ - that you might have? At any/all direct snaps under Center, how often does Dante Moore open to his right? Or, to his left? And does one of those have a much bigger influence in the sloppiness he needs to clean up in play-action?

    I only have a handful of games all-22 for Moore. No snaps under center (yet) I'll post more as I find it.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    8PM (EST) tonight - going to take a fresh look at Darian Mensah vs NCState (2025) All 22 on discord. I've got to get more charting done.

    For anyone that would like to join for the "rough draft" viewing, I'd encourage to join, share your thoughts, questions, etc etc.

    https://discord.gg/9amfywfWZ

    While you were on discord....I was on DisChord, DatChord and DeOtherChord.....Playing my Gretsch Pristine Jet Ltd. 🙂

    @orion said:

    While you were on discord....I was on DisChord, DatChord and DeOtherChord.....Playing my Gretsch Pristine Jet Ltd. 🙂

    I lied - we're starting at 6:45p tonight.

    https://discord.gg/5PeMrjCTv

  • This topic has come up here on the board, and I was just talking about it last night with a friend/former teammate.

    I know @flugel mentioned something like a 'cut down' content series to go over more fundamental stuff for fans.

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Came up in conversation last night - A LOT of Football fans get confused and yell when their teams use wide(r) developing runs to the boundary (short side)

    When you're facing a DEF, like @GeorgiaFootball, who loves to call their 3tech (pre-snap circle) to the field (wide side) Show more
  • This topic has come up here on the board, and I was just talking about it last night with a friend/former teammate.

    I know @flugel mentioned something like a 'cut down' content series to go over more fundamental stuff for fans.

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Came up in conversation last night - A LOT of Football fans get confused and yell when their teams use wide(r) developing runs to the boundary (short side)

    When you're facing a DEF, like @GeorgiaFootball, who loves to call their 3tech (pre-snap circle) to the field (wide side) Show more

    @tiamat63 said:

    This topic has come up here on the board, and I was just talking about it last night with a friend/former teammate.

    I know @flugel mentioned something like a 'cut down' content series to go over more fundamental stuff for fans.

    Thanks TJ! Great example of an effective playcall against a talented Front known to produce 1st round draft picks at DT. The Eagles landed 2 of them in successive drafts. When you play someone like that - your margin of error already walks a very thin tight rope so in your example take what is given/least of all evils. They moved the stix doing so.

  • @dutch-oven

    You asked why Mensah is falling down my board. Long winded, but this might help.

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Facing a closed post defense doesn't mean you can't find success throwing vertical & between the hashes. Like any system, defenders can be manipulated & moved to create 'attackable' space.

    "Just because there's a goalie, doesn't mean you can't score"

    #Duke_FB throwing a Show more
  • First camp in the books. I'll be back tomorrow, and then another couple dates next week (unless I snag tickets for Friday)

    The big stuff you're probably wanting to know.

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    ❗️Thoughts from #Browns Training Camp - 8/4 ❗️

    ❗️ IT'S #SHEDEUR SANDERS JOB TO LOSE.
    ... There it is, in all caps for you.
    - Dillion Gabriel has been efficient. But the biggest seperation has been SS2's work downfield, being aggressive vertical. This is a Todd Monken Show more
  • Not sure why, but I've ignored short form content on Youtube & Facebook until the last few days.

    That will change moving forward.

    So for those of you that aren't about twitter, but you have Facebook and/or YouTube, by all means, give a follow/subscribe.

    Youtube

    Facebook

    https://www.facebook.com/share/1DdPD23oXh/

  • Look familiar?

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Systemic continuity, especially with coaching change, can be a blessing. But with similar designs, bring similar (familiar) weaknesses and counters.

    2025- #BillsMafia running toss off condensed sets. Pin the playside edge, let him upfield... profit.

    2026 - #DaBears Show more
  • Sorry, didn't post these earlier. Thoughts from Game 1.

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Deshaun Watson vs Chicago charting is done.
    The theme? - Elementary (See what I did there?)

    He was fine with all the high percentage, 1st progression throws. But the problem is I'm not paying a $250m QB to hit throws that I expect any league average QB to be 70% on. Show more
    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    This is the time of the season to challenge yourself to grow as a passer, especially when your roster spot is secure. This is where I NEED #Shedeur to be better. I love that he can generate some downfield shots, but this right here is where your money is made.
    Concept VS Show more
    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    A HUGE concern of mine I had mentioned during training camp is already showing up early in Game 1 of pre-season with the Browns QBs - processing speed.

    1,2,3. Any coach will tell you, give me my 1,2,3. Pure progression, triangle/geometry reads, boundary to field, doesn't Show more
  • @texasag1969 Asked me about this rep

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    The #Browns under Coach Schwartz were a 1hi dominant system. In 2025 one of the change-ups we saw called more off 1hi was inverted Cover 2. Coach Rutenberg has kept some of those same installs, if this pre-season rep is any indication.

    I was asked a question this question on Show more
  • Sorry, didn't post these earlier. Thoughts from Game 1.

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    Deshaun Watson vs Chicago charting is done.
    The theme? - Elementary (See what I did there?)

    He was fine with all the high percentage, 1st progression throws. But the problem is I'm not paying a $250m QB to hit throws that I expect any league average QB to be 70% on. Show more
    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    This is the time of the season to challenge yourself to grow as a passer, especially when your roster spot is secure. This is where I NEED #Shedeur to be better. I love that he can generate some downfield shots, but this right here is where your money is made.
    Concept VS Show more
    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    A HUGE concern of mine I had mentioned during training camp is already showing up early in Game 1 of pre-season with the Browns QBs - processing speed.

    1,2,3. Any coach will tell you, give me my 1,2,3. Pure progression, triangle/geometry reads, boundary to field, doesn't Show more

    @tiamat63 said:

    Sorry, didn't post these earlier. Thoughts from Game 1.

    The play was designed to go to Corely. That's where Sheduer was focused. It's supposed to be a timing throw. The problem was Corely ran right up to the defender. The receiver has to button-hook that before he gets into the defender's lap so there's a little space to fit the ball in.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    Sorry, didn't post these earlier. Thoughts from Game 1.

    The play was designed to go to Corely. That's where Sheduer was focused. It's supposed to be a timing throw. The problem was Corely ran right up to the defender. The receiver has to button-hook that before he gets into the defender's lap so there's a little space to fit the ball in.

    @orion said:

    Button Hook

    So the play design is to the trips side. Something I'd prefer Shedeur, along with a lot of young QBs, to challenge themselves to work progressions over there more. Too often these young QBs, my biggest knock was on Dart last year, think they get 1 on 1 to the X and just rip it.

    The result is very boom or bust.

    The matchup side, the "solo" side is Corley. QBs can be given some freedom in pre-snap adjustments to their X. Based on the level of trust & coaching staff.

    But let's use your strategy.

    Screenshot_20260819_224933_Chrome~2.jpg

    This was when Corley began his break. If he "button hooks" even solner than that, you're looking at being, bare minimum, 2 yards short of the sticks. Meaning he has to catch and create YAC on a hitch.

    It's just not a prudent formula to success unless we're throwing to Steve Smith.

    The corners, much like what we saw a lot last year, are sitting either +2-3 or "heavy" at the chains.

    Corley did a fairly reasonable job working back to his inside shoulder, then getting back to an outside shoulder throw. The placement by Shedeur, to the outside, is correct.

    But this pic is also proof that the timing is the issue. Shedeur should be in his throwing motion by this point - he isn't. So the two factors that compose the bulk of throw success, timing and placement, only had one met.

  • @orion said:

    Button Hook

    So the play design is to the trips side. Something I'd prefer Shedeur, along with a lot of young QBs, to challenge themselves to work progressions over there more. Too often these young QBs, my biggest knock was on Dart last year, think they get 1 on 1 to the X and just rip it.

    The result is very boom or bust.

    The matchup side, the "solo" side is Corley. QBs can be given some freedom in pre-snap adjustments to their X. Based on the level of trust & coaching staff.

    But let's use your strategy.

    Screenshot_20260819_224933_Chrome~2.jpg

    This was when Corley began his break. If he "button hooks" even solner than that, you're looking at being, bare minimum, 2 yards short of the sticks. Meaning he has to catch and create YAC on a hitch.

    It's just not a prudent formula to success unless we're throwing to Steve Smith.

    The corners, much like what we saw a lot last year, are sitting either +2-3 or "heavy" at the chains.

    Corley did a fairly reasonable job working back to his inside shoulder, then getting back to an outside shoulder throw. The placement by Shedeur, to the outside, is correct.

    But this pic is also proof that the timing is the issue. Shedeur should be in his throwing motion by this point - he isn't. So the two factors that compose the bulk of throw success, timing and placement, only had one met.

    @tiamat63 said:

    This was when Corley began his break. If he "button hooks" even solner than that, you're looking at being, bare minimum, 2 yards short of the sticks

    Yup, but running into the lap of the defender means no yards at all. The defender knows where the sticks are too. There was a favorable man to man situation there but the receiver didn't create any space. Would've been awfully risky to let that one fly earlier. Obviously Sanders and Corley don't have the pattern timing down pat. - 1st preseason game.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    This was when Corley began his break. If he "button hooks" even solner than that, you're looking at being, bare minimum, 2 yards short of the sticks

    Yup, but running into the lap of the defender means no yards at all. The defender knows where the sticks are too. There was a favorable man to man situation there but the receiver didn't create any space. Would've been awfully risky to let that one fly earlier. Obviously Sanders and Corley don't have the pattern timing down pat. - 1st preseason game.

    @orion said:

    Yup, but running into the lap of the defender means no yards at all. The defender knows where the sticks are too. There was a favorable man to man situation there but the receiver didn't create any space. Would've been awfully risky to let that one fly earlier. Obviously Sanders and Corley don't have the pattern timing down pat. - 1st preseason game.

    There are two ways to create space in this instance.

    • Break well before the DB, short of the sticks.

    • Eat Cushion, try to get the DB to open and/or get into his chest and disengage off that leverage.

    You're saying the 1st one is a no go.

    But you're saying the WR can't use the 2nd to create space on a hitch. This 2nd one is how we've been watching Denzel Boston create separation on the hitch all of camp.

    We're going to just have to disagree with this one. Sure, it isn't Boston, but the timing is poor on a throw that is SBS.

  • @orion said:

    Yup, but running into the lap of the defender means no yards at all. The defender knows where the sticks are too. There was a favorable man to man situation there but the receiver didn't create any space. Would've been awfully risky to let that one fly earlier. Obviously Sanders and Corley don't have the pattern timing down pat. - 1st preseason game.

    There are two ways to create space in this instance.

    • Break well before the DB, short of the sticks.

    • Eat Cushion, try to get the DB to open and/or get into his chest and disengage off that leverage.

    You're saying the 1st one is a no go.

    But you're saying the WR can't use the 2nd to create space on a hitch. This 2nd one is how we've been watching Denzel Boston create separation on the hitch all of camp.

    We're going to just have to disagree with this one. Sure, it isn't Boston, but the timing is poor on a throw that is SBS.

    @tiamat63 said:

    1. Break well before the DB, short of the sticks.

    2. Eat Cushion, try to get the DB to open and/or get into his chest and disengage off that leverage.

    Well, he didn't do #1 And #2 didn't happen. So, a nice one on one matchup netted an inc.

  • Higher level Football eval here. I gave as much info as I could to help show people what it all means.

    TL;DR - Watson fucked up. Then he was given the opportunity to redeem himself and, well, totally fucked up a 2nd time.

    RunThe9@tjRT9s
    This is a long form build off this post yesterday. Going to show how #Deshaun INT happened and how he failed to make up for it.

    Running the X under/shallow away from trips, especially reduced/nasty splits puts the defenses in a bind. The CB in man has to navigate traffic and Show more
    RunThe9@tjRT9sOk so this is dope. - Solo goes shallow - instead of clouding it out, Boundary safety inverts to pick up the RB release. - CB turns over shallow for the LBs To pass off & sort - replaces boundary safety and poaches the #2 Over on top of the mesh work. The way NFL defenses