Too soon for draft talk??
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Everybody I have talked to seem to feel Harvin will declare after this season.
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Maybe a way to defuse all the negativity on these boards is to look ahead to the draft.
What negativity? We're in the playoff hunt and going to kick some Texan arse this weekend!
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What are his measurables like? I always thought he was too small. Then again, I thought Steve Slaton was too small and he's tearing it up for the Texans.
Harvin's listed at 5'11", 195 lbs. Slaton measured in a 5'9", 197 lbs. at the Combine (I also thought he was too small for the NFL).
However, one key difference is that Harvin projects more to receiver in the NFL. And not only does he lack experience playing wideout full-time; scouts also question whether he's strong enough to effectively break the jam.
Add in the durability issue, and you've got some major concerns there. I still like Harvin, but I definitely understand why his ceiling seems to be mid-late Round 1.
Then again, a low 4.30's 40 at the Combine could change things...
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I'm not a big fan of Dan Pompei's draft stuff, but his senior OLB rankings are interesting.
Here are his top four guys:
1. Aaron Curry, Wake Forest. A big (6-foot-3-inch, 247-pound), fast, explosive player who can change a defense. Can play inside or outside. Plays with passion.
2. Brian Cushing, Southern California. Has size (6-4, 255), speed and instincts. Can play any linebacker position in any system. Reminiscent of Bill Romanowski.
3. Clay Matthews, Southern California. Has elevated his draft stock with a great senior season. High-effort player can pass-rush. Father with the same name starred at New Trier and played 19 seasons in the NFL.
4. Clint Sintim, Virginia. Good pass rusher who would fit in a 3-4 scheme. Also could be considered inside. Has an impressive physique.
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I could definately see him as a slot receiver/punt returner for some team, with them finding innovative ways to get the ball in his hands. Sort of like NO does with Reggie Bush.
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Maybe a way to defuse all the negativity on these boards is to look ahead to the draft.
Predict what pick the Browns might have and who might be there.
Who's coming out early? What do we have for trade bait that other team want(hehe).
I'm thinking we move up a few picks by offering a few current players.
Maybe a way to defuse all the negativity on these boards is to look ahead to the draft.
That's pretty funny. You REALLY think anything can defuse negativity on this board? HAHHAHAH. I guess you have not been here very long. Now I just registered under a new name due to some computer issues, but I have been around here for a while... This board THRIVES on negativity... There would BE no board but for negativity... So now that I am done stating the obvious..
1st round Runningback, Inside OL position in the top 3.. We have to run the ball, protect the QB, We need to get more, more, more , did I say MORE! on the DL, and then the rest of the defense. I believe we need to go back to a 4-3 then the linebackers we currently have on the roster become a strength..
We need to get depth at wr somewhere too.. Anyway we can get about 16 draft picks??? Good thing we have some cap space because we need more help than just the draft will bring.. This team is not far off, but there are some glaring weaknesses... But we must beef up in the trenches.. no doubt about that. Tucker looks like he is done, Frahley struggles against good DT's.. we stupidly traded Faine when he fell out of favor (who is now playing pro bowl ball)..So a stud Center is higher on my wish list than a guard... there is Zero in the free agent market for RB's, and slim at wr though lance moore would be very very high on my list.
But then I wanted adrian peterson last year so I doubt I will get the runningback or center this year either.. but those would be 2 of my top 4 picks..1st round definately at running back
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After today, I think it's pretty clear that it's not too soon for draft talk.
Aaron Curry's the guy I'm hoping we get in Round 1.
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Ricky Sapp, a guy I mentioned as a 3-4 OLB prospect, suffered a partially-torn ACL on Saturday.
Sapp's a junior, so he's now expected to return to Clemson for his senior year.
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percy harvin's an interesting kid. i'd liken him to an unpolished santana moss. he's got great speed and good hands but doesn't really know how to play receiver. at the same time, he's nowhere near tough enough to be a NFL-caliber RB. i don't think there's a GM in the league who's thinking of putting him in the backfield now that milllen's gone.
he'll run a good forty, i think, which should put him at least in the second round. i just don't think he warrants first-round consideration because he's such a project, such a boom-or-bust type player. he could be great, but i think it's more likely he'll be chad jackson.
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It's amazing that this is the guy who may not be physical/tough enough to play receiver in the NFL:
"An unpolished Santana Moss" is an interesting comparison. Personally, I like DTBH's Reggie Bush comparison, but Moss works as well.
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It's amazing that this is the guy who may not be physical/tough enough to play receiver in the NFL:
"An unpolished Santana Moss" is an interesting comparison. Personally, I like DTBH's Reggie Bush comparison, but Moss works as well.
Aloysius said:
It's amazing that this is the guy who may not be physical/tough enough to play receiver in the NFL:"An unpolished Santana Moss" is an interesting comparison. Personally, I like DTBH's Reggie Bush comparison, but Moss works as well.
Big muscles don't make you "physically tough". You have to be able to take the hit, and take the pain. Remember our Defensive linemen "big money" and the other dufus who Suggs from Tampa Bay called a sissy?
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You're right, DH. But it's still surprising to read that a guy with guns like Harvin's won't be able to consistently break the jam at the next level.
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Interesting tidbit from SI:
After Ohio State's convincing victory over Michigan in Ann Arbor, running back Chris Wells was one of the last players to leave the field, hugging well wishers and mingling with the fans in the end zone. As one NFL scout at the game said, "It looked like Wells' last hurrah at the Horseshoe," inferring the Buckeye ball carrier may have played his final game in an Ohio State uniform and is likely to be playing on Sundays next year.
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i know, it's absolutely insane that a guy like harvin can be considered soft, but that's today's NFL. to be considered tough, you have to cause nightmares.
i like the bush comparison, too. i chose moss because he and harvin are both receivers and moss is great return guy with amazing run after the catch ability. moss just runs good routes which it doesn't seem that harvin yet knows how to do.
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i know, it's absolutely insane that a guy like harvin can be considered soft, but that's today's NFL. to be considered tough, you have to cause nightmares.
i like the bush comparison, too. i chose moss because he and harvin are both receivers and moss is great return guy with amazing run after the catch ability. moss just runs good routes which it doesn't seem that harvin yet knows how to do.
i know, it's absolutely insane that a guy like harvin can be considered soft, but that's today's NFL. to be considered tough, you have to cause nightmares.
i like the bush comparison, too. i chose moss because he and harvin are both receivers and moss is great return guy with amazing run after the catch ability. moss just runs good routes which it doesn't seem that harvin yet knows how to do.
Great point.
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