I think Holmgren likes DA better
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Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
I think Holmgren doesnt see the whole picture and is going off memory of the two. He needs to watch ALOT of film before he comes to a decision if he doesnt dump both of em.
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Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
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Wait til they get in the film room.
now that would be a slow day. sitting in front of a projector, and instantly seeing the one spot where a qb shouldn't throw the ball, and then seeing DA throw there every time. i would rip my eyes out after about 2 hours of that.
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Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
I think Holmgren doesnt see the whole picture and is going off memory of the two. He needs to watch ALOT of film before he comes to a decision if he doesnt dump both of em.
I think Holmgren doesnt see the whole picture and is going off memory of the two. He needs to watch ALOT of film before he comes to a decision if he doesnt dump both of em.
Maybe Holmgren does see the whole picture.
In '07 DA had a heck of a year and won a ton of games despite being on a team with a horrible defense.
Last year DA missed much of preseason, probably started when he shouldn't have, played behind a line with injuries, only played 1 game with Edwards, Winslow and Stallworth in the lineup at the same time before being yanked after not playing that poorly against Baltimore, winning 3 of his last 5 games... and after getting pulled, despite the team's injury bug working itself out the team only won one more game.
This year DA came in and the team obviously moved the ball much, much better against Cincinnati... then they blew up the receiving corps and all of the starters were now either rookies or hadn't been on the team for more than a few weeks. There were also changes made in the rest of the lineup during that time. There was very little stability in the lineup during mid-season, it was not the same team that went through preseason and the first 3 games. It only really started to stabilize around game 10-11, paying off the last 4 games.
Holmgren does need to watch A LOT (spelled correctly, pet peeve of mine) of film to see if DA and BQ are worth keeping, but it wouldn't surprise me if a trained football mind comes to a different conclusion on at least one of our QB's than most of the posters on this board.
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I think Holmgren doesnt see the whole picture and is going off memory of the two. He needs to watch ALOT of film before he comes to a decision if he doesnt dump both of em.
Maybe Holmgren does see the whole picture.
In '07 DA had a heck of a year and won a ton of games despite being on a team with a horrible defense.
Last year DA missed much of preseason, probably started when he shouldn't have, played behind a line with injuries, only played 1 game with Edwards, Winslow and Stallworth in the lineup at the same time before being yanked after not playing that poorly against Baltimore, winning 3 of his last 5 games... and after getting pulled, despite the team's injury bug working itself out the team only won one more game.
This year DA came in and the team obviously moved the ball much, much better against Cincinnati... then they blew up the receiving corps and all of the starters were now either rookies or hadn't been on the team for more than a few weeks. There were also changes made in the rest of the lineup during that time. There was very little stability in the lineup during mid-season, it was not the same team that went through preseason and the first 3 games. It only really started to stabilize around game 10-11, paying off the last 4 games.
Holmgren does need to watch A LOT (spelled correctly, pet peeve of mine) of film to see if DA and BQ are worth keeping, but it wouldn't surprise me if a trained football mind comes to a different conclusion on at least one of our QB's than most of the posters on this board.
it wouldn't surprise me if a trained football mind comes to a different conclusion on at least one of our QB's than most of the posters on this board.
I agree with that.
Although I've been right on two things recently; on Mangini being a better coach than what the media was feeding us, and that Jay Leno should have never been written out of the Tonight Show plans .... I'm now feeling pretty confident and giddy, and believe Holmgren will bring in 'his starter' but restructure DA's contract and keep him around to tutor and grow over the next two seasons. He will determine that Brady Quinn is a dime-a-dozen type back-up that he can pluck from anywhere, no need to work with the nonconformist attitude.
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Holmgren's touching himself, salivating at the thought of Anderson tossing TDs to defensive backs all day long.
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seriously guys you need to get off DA's nuts he does nothing good besides throw an occasional nice deep ball...Throws the balls to his running backs at his feet and as hard as he can.....Im not saying quinn is the anserw but slightly better but anderson SUCKS!!!!! his stats just prove it. Holmgren will bring in his own QB in the next 2 years and let QUINN play those seasons out as his guy gets ready
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Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
+1 And don't forget, he was in the PRO BOWL also. He also won 10 games in 2007.
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+1 And don't forget, he was in the PRO BOWL also. He also won 10 games in 2007.
2007 was just yesterday when you think about it in the realm of global events.
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I'm really getting tired of people thinking that DA can play football. He was inexcusably bad this year. There is no reason that a QB in the NFL cannot complete at least 50% of his throws over a period of more than 5 games. Anyone who's not a complete idiot can see that Anderson is terrible.
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+1 And don't forget, he was in the PRO BOWL also. He also won 10 games in 2007.
2007 was just yesterday when you think about it in the realm of global events.
2007 was just yesterday when you think about it in the realm of global events.
2007 was the last time there was ANY stability in the offensive lineup. People are quick to point fingers at DA, but the team's makeup was changing nearly every game DA appeared in during the last 2 seasons 'til 2 games back. 2007 was essentially yesterday when you think about it in the realm of the Browns having a team. The Browns had a "team" in '07, and a "team" the last 4 games of '09... in between they had turmoil.
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it wouldn't surprise me if a trained football mind comes to a different conclusion on at least one of our QB's than most of the posters on this board.
I agree with that.
Although I've been right on two things recently; on Mangini being a better coach than what the media was feeding us, and that Jay Leno should have never been written out of the Tonight Show plans .... I'm now feeling pretty confident and giddy, and believe Holmgren will bring in 'his starter' but restructure DA's contract and keep him around to tutor and grow over the next two seasons. He will determine that Brady Quinn is a dime-a-dozen type back-up that he can pluck from anywhere, no need to work with the nonconformist attitude.
I agree with that.
Although I've been right on two things recently; on Mangini being a better coach than what the media was feeding us, and that Jay Leno should have never been written out of the Tonight Show plans .... I'm now feeling pretty confident and giddy, and believe Holmgren will bring in 'his starter' but restructure DA's contract and keep him around to tutor and grow over the next two seasons. He will determine that Brady Quinn is a dime-a-dozen type back-up that he can pluck from anywhere, no need to work with the nonconformist attitude.
I wouldn't be surprised at a restructure either. At that point it's up to DA as to whether he wants to stay in Cleveland and put up with the non-playing/non-coaching idiots who hate him or look elsewhere for more positive surroundings... he's at that age where he could be thinking "family" and what atmosphere he wants to raise it in.
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Holmgren won 272 games with a solid run attack, for a good example just look at the stoolersd, they had to turn into a passing team and those inbreads are sitting out of the playoffs this year, while we finally found that we have a rb and finished stronger than any NFL team. Just imagine what our next season will be like if we can continue to run the ball and dont have any injuries then it wont matter really if its quinn da or some other half ass qb back there. We will win,
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Can they both just become legally blind for a few years so we can find a different quarterback? I want them both GONE. Final say.
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Zombo said:
Holmgren won 272 games with three different startig QBs: Bret Favre, Jon Kitna and Matt Hasslebeck. All projects.Farve was a project? After 4 pass attempts with the Falcons, in his second season he threw for 3227 yards, completed 64.1% and had a 85.3 QB rating. Hardly a project.
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now that would be a slow day. sitting in front of a projector, and instantly seeing the one spot where a qb shouldn't throw the ball, and then seeing DA throw there every time. i would rip my eyes out after about 2 hours of that.
Atenears couldn't see that due to DA's balls hanging in front of his eyes.
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I think Holmgren knows they both suck, and he'll draft Hiller to start ahead of DA,
he'll get a draft pick in round 2 for Quinn.
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Who cares what he likes? Neither of them will be starting next year.
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Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
God bless ya! He hasn't missed a handoff yet while Quinn hasn't missed an Injured Reserve list in 2 consecutive years. We've got competitive accuracies working everywhere but tossing the pigskin.
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I think Holmgren knows they both suck, and he'll draft Hiller to start ahead of DA,
he'll get a draft pick in round 2 for Quinn.
I think Holmgren knows they both suck, and he'll draft Hiller to start ahead of DA,
he'll get a draft pick in round 2 for Quinn.
Very possible scenario and with a little luck it would give us three second round picks.
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