I think Holmgren likes DA better
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Holmgren's touching himself, salivating at the thought of Anderson tossing TDs to defensive backs all day long.
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seriously guys you need to get off DA's nuts he does nothing good besides throw an occasional nice deep ball...Throws the balls to his running backs at his feet and as hard as he can.....Im not saying quinn is the anserw but slightly better but anderson SUCKS!!!!! his stats just prove it. Holmgren will bring in his own QB in the next 2 years and let QUINN play those seasons out as his guy gets ready
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Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
+1 And don't forget, he was in the PRO BOWL also. He also won 10 games in 2007.
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+1 And don't forget, he was in the PRO BOWL also. He also won 10 games in 2007.
2007 was just yesterday when you think about it in the realm of global events.
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I'm really getting tired of people thinking that DA can play football. He was inexcusably bad this year. There is no reason that a QB in the NFL cannot complete at least 50% of his throws over a period of more than 5 games. Anyone who's not a complete idiot can see that Anderson is terrible.
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+1 And don't forget, he was in the PRO BOWL also. He also won 10 games in 2007.
2007 was just yesterday when you think about it in the realm of global events.
2007 was just yesterday when you think about it in the realm of global events.
2007 was the last time there was ANY stability in the offensive lineup. People are quick to point fingers at DA, but the team's makeup was changing nearly every game DA appeared in during the last 2 seasons 'til 2 games back. 2007 was essentially yesterday when you think about it in the realm of the Browns having a team. The Browns had a "team" in '07, and a "team" the last 4 games of '09... in between they had turmoil.
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it wouldn't surprise me if a trained football mind comes to a different conclusion on at least one of our QB's than most of the posters on this board.
I agree with that.
Although I've been right on two things recently; on Mangini being a better coach than what the media was feeding us, and that Jay Leno should have never been written out of the Tonight Show plans .... I'm now feeling pretty confident and giddy, and believe Holmgren will bring in 'his starter' but restructure DA's contract and keep him around to tutor and grow over the next two seasons. He will determine that Brady Quinn is a dime-a-dozen type back-up that he can pluck from anywhere, no need to work with the nonconformist attitude.
I agree with that.
Although I've been right on two things recently; on Mangini being a better coach than what the media was feeding us, and that Jay Leno should have never been written out of the Tonight Show plans .... I'm now feeling pretty confident and giddy, and believe Holmgren will bring in 'his starter' but restructure DA's contract and keep him around to tutor and grow over the next two seasons. He will determine that Brady Quinn is a dime-a-dozen type back-up that he can pluck from anywhere, no need to work with the nonconformist attitude.
I wouldn't be surprised at a restructure either. At that point it's up to DA as to whether he wants to stay in Cleveland and put up with the non-playing/non-coaching idiots who hate him or look elsewhere for more positive surroundings... he's at that age where he could be thinking "family" and what atmosphere he wants to raise it in.
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Holmgren won 272 games with a solid run attack, for a good example just look at the stoolersd, they had to turn into a passing team and those inbreads are sitting out of the playoffs this year, while we finally found that we have a rb and finished stronger than any NFL team. Just imagine what our next season will be like if we can continue to run the ball and dont have any injuries then it wont matter really if its quinn da or some other half ass qb back there. We will win,
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Can they both just become legally blind for a few years so we can find a different quarterback? I want them both GONE. Final say.
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Zombo said:
Holmgren won 272 games with three different startig QBs: Bret Favre, Jon Kitna and Matt Hasslebeck. All projects.Farve was a project? After 4 pass attempts with the Falcons, in his second season he threw for 3227 yards, completed 64.1% and had a 85.3 QB rating. Hardly a project.
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now that would be a slow day. sitting in front of a projector, and instantly seeing the one spot where a qb shouldn't throw the ball, and then seeing DA throw there every time. i would rip my eyes out after about 2 hours of that.
Atenears couldn't see that due to DA's balls hanging in front of his eyes.
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I think Holmgren knows they both suck, and he'll draft Hiller to start ahead of DA,
he'll get a draft pick in round 2 for Quinn.
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Who cares what he likes? Neither of them will be starting next year.
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Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
Sorry, it's a slow day ... but I think DA fits in better with what Holmgren & Mangini want in regards to team chemistry.
God bless ya! He hasn't missed a handoff yet while Quinn hasn't missed an Injured Reserve list in 2 consecutive years. We've got competitive accuracies working everywhere but tossing the pigskin.
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I think Holmgren knows they both suck, and he'll draft Hiller to start ahead of DA,
he'll get a draft pick in round 2 for Quinn.
I think Holmgren knows they both suck, and he'll draft Hiller to start ahead of DA,
he'll get a draft pick in round 2 for Quinn.
Very possible scenario and with a little luck it would give us three second round picks.
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Okay I didn't want to do this but I have a prediction. Harrison and Quinn will be gone pretty early on in the offseason. Harrison's value will never be higher than it is right now and he was in Mangini's doghouse for a good part of the year. We also have two servicable young RBs in Jennings and Davis that we can work with, cheap. We can then tender him and wait for offers. Its a good move in my opinion. Maybe we can Scott Mitchell somebody. Quinn will be gone because he's pretty bad yet has some appeal to a lot of teams looking for a safe backup. Almost any team would take him for that role and Holmgren/Mangini will want to avoid a QB controversy at all cost. Now, take into consideration that Holmgren has said he liked what DA did to them in 2007. Also, DA played ball in the Pacific Northwest so you have to believe Holmgren has been aware of him for awhile.
My final take. I have long said that if you were going to coach up one of these two QBs, DA would be the more worth while. He can make all of the throws and if you recall in 2007, with two years in the same system finally; he was making ALL the right reads at the line and was tearing defenses up every week; Holmgren's Hawks was one of those teams. If I'm a coach and have to choose one to work on, its hands-down DA. Quinn seems unable to improvise, react, or think on the fly. Almost like he does EXACTLY what the play calls for and if it breaks down or something isn't there, he panicks. And of course his throws take way too long to reach there target. That's right, the turf.
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Very possible scenario and with a little luck it would give us three second round picks.
We'll be lucky to get a 4th for either of them. You only get a 2nd if the guy will be a starter, I don't know what team would take him as their starter. Oakland maybe but he doesn't have the tools to make Al Davis cream his jeans. So I don't know who is left?
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Gonna be fun watching what happens as long as mangini doesnt start playing the itsy bitsy mangini kiddy headgames that is...my guess is DA is a goner he isnt worth what he is paid period..and bq will follow him out the door because his contract is to big if he actually plays..mangini will bring in a notable vet to mentor/teach and backup our first round rookie qb and end the controversy...
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I think Holmgren knows they both suck, and he'll draft Hiller to start ahead of DA,
he'll get a draft pick in round 2 for Quinn.
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Jevan Snead, Ole Miss, recently declared for draft. For some reason he lost his confidence this past year and regressed to the point where he may not even get drafted this year. His stats were horrible. The combine offfers some redemption, if he is invited. Anyhow IMO this kid has the tools to help a team win if he were able to get with a team/coach that understands how to develop young QB talent. MH has a proven track record of QB development going back to his SF days (Montana, Young). Snead is 6'3", has excellent arm strength with accuracy. I saw a few of his sophmore games when he was tearing up the SEC. If he were able to regain that same level of mojo for the Browns both DA and boy toy would be nothin more that an afterthought. If he were available for the league minimum, I think he would be an excellent project
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