2010 free agency list
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Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
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Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
No.
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Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Have you watched him play at all this year? He was worse than Quinn and Anderson combined before he became a guest of the state. He's not any better now than he was back then. He's Cribbs with more speed and less strength.
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Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Alright here's the deal Eric Mangini likes intelligent, decent human beings Mike Vick is neither of these. What Vick did to those dogs is evil plain and simple I don't care if you don't value other life forms as much as a human life it was still completely wrong. The last thing the browns need is an evil douche like vick as the face of the franchise especially since fans patience is growing thin with the teams losing ways.
What we're seeing here in 2010 is precisely what happened in NE a decade ago. It worked for them then, and it wiill work for us now. Why? Because it's the only way it's ever worked in pro football. Just ask Paul Brown. Or Vince Lombardi. Or Tom Landry. .02, Clemdawg -
I don't care what anyone says, if Matt Moore had been the starting QB instead of Jake "Interception" Delhomme, the Panthers would have had a completely different year.
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Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Alright here's the deal Eric Mangini likes intelligent, decent human beings Mike Vick is neither of these. What Vick did to those dogs is evil plain and simple I don't care if you don't value other life forms as much as a human life it was still completely wrong. The last thing the browns need is an evil douche like vick as the face of the franchise especially since fans patience is growing thin with the teams losing ways.
Dawgfanforever88 said:
Alright here's the deal Eric Mangini likes intelligent, decent human beings Mike Vick is neither of these. What Vick did to those dogs is evil plain and simple I don't care if you don't value other life forms as much as a human life it was still completely wrong. The last thing the browns need is an evil douche like vick as the face of the franchise especially since fans patience is growing thin with the teams losing ways.Just heard on ESPN that Reid is going to keep all 3 qbs on his roster. So no need to worry about Vick. I agree about the character issues, but more importantly, He's inaccurate, and not much of an upgrade (if any) over what the Browns already have.
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Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (35)
Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (29)
David Carr, New York Giants (31)
Brodie Croyle, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (33)
Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (30)
Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (31)
Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (37)
Matt Moore, Carolina Panthers (26) – Restricted FA
Chris Redman, Atlanta Falcons (33)
Brett Ratliff, Cleveland Browns (25) – Exclusive Rights FA
Troy Smith, Baltimore Ravens (26) – Restricted FA
Not real impressed i'll take what we got and add a late round draft pick just release ratliff already
Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (35)
Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (29)
David Carr, New York Giants (31)
Brodie Croyle, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (33)
Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (30)
Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (31)
Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (37)
Matt Moore, Carolina Panthers (26) – Restricted FA
Chris Redman, Atlanta Falcons (33)
Brett Ratliff, Cleveland Browns (25) – Exclusive Rights FA
Troy Smith, Baltimore Ravens (26) – Restricted FA
Not real impressed i'll take what we got and add a late round draft pick just release ratliff already
The ONLY one of these I think worth a look is Troy Smith, but that may just be my bias toward a Cleveland/OSU guy showing.
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What FAs are available at other positions? Positions we could really use somebody?
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I WANT TROY SMITH!
Keep Ratliff as a backup even though Bartel was better, Mangini seemed to favor Ratliff for personal reasons and not skill reasons.
All Bartel needed to do to become a better QB was get rid of the ball earlier(he got sacked a million times in the preseason but had a great completion rate).
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by the way, how is this a "2010 free agency list"? this is a "2010 QB free agency list".
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Troy Smith? He is a restricted free agent.
Which means, you'd end up giving the dirty, stupid, ugly and putrid ratbirds a huge value for him.
Seriously, ... NO.
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Troy Smith? He is a restricted free agent.
Which means, you'd end up giving the dirty, stupid, ugly and putrid ratbirds a huge value for him.
Seriously, ... NO.
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why do people romanticize troy smith so much? because he was a buckeye? there is a reason why he isn't seeing any pt.
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why do people romanticize troy smith so much? because he was a buckeye? there is a reason why he isn't seeing any pt.
why do people romanticize troy smith so much? because he was a buckeye? there is a reason why he isn't seeing any pt.
yeah there was a reason, he got a throat infection, he was named starter up until that infection and that's the only reason why he didn't see any playing time.
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why do people romanticize troy smith so much? because he was a buckeye? there is a reason why he isn't seeing any pt.
why do people romanticize troy smith so much? because he was a buckeye? there is a reason why he isn't seeing any pt.
There is a reason, you're right. His name is Joe Flacco.
What's the harm in bringing in Smith, if we can get a decent enough trade for him? I think it's already been proven that our QB's aren't necessarily cutting it. I say, if we can get Smith without giving away anything of too great a value, we should go for it.
It won't happen, of course. But there's no harm in wishing. And, Harbaugh was endorsing Smith all throughout the offseason until he got sick. I'm not saying Smith is the second coming of Jesus Christ (who was a great quarterback, on top of everything else), I'm just saying he's worth taking a shot.
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My memory is a bit cloudy, but I remember Troy Smith as a good QB but not as a great one. The kid was really athletic and could run but I don't remember much about his arm. How good was his accuracy?
Also... Tim Couch... I love your avatar.
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as far as WR fa's go, i can definitely see clowney coming here next year.
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Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Thanks a lot for making me puke.
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Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Vick jumping into the dogpound an instant classic ha ha
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My memory is a bit cloudy, but I remember Troy Smith as a good QB but not as a great one. The kid was really athletic and could run but I don't remember much about his arm. How good was his accuracy?
Also... Tim Couch... I love your avatar.
My memory is a bit cloudy, but I remember Troy Smith as a good QB but not as a great one. The kid was really athletic and could run but I don't remember much about his arm. How good was his accuracy?
Also... Tim Couch... I love your avatar.
Brady Quinn- Notre Dame - 46 games
COMP ---- ATT---- COMP %------ YDS------ TD --- INT --- RATING ---- RuATT ---- RuYDS ---- AVG ----RuTD
929 ------ 1602 --- 58.0 --------11,762 ----- 95 ----39 ---- 134.4 ------- 254 -------- 182 --------.7------ 6
Troy Smith- The Ohio State University - 44 games
COMP ---- ATT ----- COMP % ----- YDS ------ TD --- INT --- RATING ---- RuATT ---- RuYDS ---- AVG --- RuTD
420 ------ 670 ------ 62.7 -------- 5,720 ------ 54 --- 13 ----- 159.72 ----- 283 -------1197 ------ 4.2 ------ 14
And, just for shits and giggles.
Peyton Manning- University of Tennessee - 45 games
COMP ---- ATT ---- COMP % ---- YDS ---- TD ---- INT
851 ----- 1354 ----- 62.85 ------ 11,201 --- 89 ---- 33
Comparing completion percentages, Troy Smith was more accurate in college than Brady Quinn, and only slightly less accurate than Peyton Manning. Granted, BQ and Peyton more than doubled Smith in every other statistic, excluding rating and TD's. These stats are hard to compare, though, because:
1)Tressel had two more than capable running backs that he relied on
2)Smith made plenty of plays on his feet instead of passing
3)Fulmer and Willingham/Weis ran a much more aerial-based offense than Tressel (from what I remember)
4)It's Peyton freakin' Manning.
I'm not on the Troy Smith bandwagon at all. I'd love to give him a shot, but it won't happen. I'm more inclined to believe that Holmgren would like a more traditional type QB than a rushing QB. The only reason I like Troy Smith is because he was a very mobile QB who had the pass first mentality. Most of the time, he only made the plays on his feet if he had to. And like I said before, I don't want a running QB who can throw, I'd much rather have a throwing QB who can run.
I'm only posting these stats because it's late, I'm bored, and I can't go to sleep. If these stats prove anything, it's that you can't foretell a QB's NFL career based on his college stats. If you could, Brady Quinn would have won a couple MVP awards by now, don't you think? And Ryan Leaf, along with Tim Couch, would be perennial Pro Bowlers.
Oh, and thanks. There's nothing I love more than Braylon being Braylon.
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Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
Hopefully the Eagles decide not to exercise their option on Mike Vick. He would instantly be the best qb we've had since we've been back.
No way man they would never bring vick to cleveland and he sucks anyways...
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