Steelers did not make it to the play-offs

[Spunkonmyback DPOY]

@calfoxwc said:

Millions of fans saw what they saw.

"Oh, gosh, I didn't want to almost end his career; I just wanted to get him out of the game so we could go to the superbowl,or my fellow steeler players on roids would beat the crap out of me after the game......and his knee accidently shattered."

"Millions"...Really? It's more like whiny fans of sucky teams that hate the Steelers. You don't hear Colts, Saints, Jets or Vikings fan doing all this whining. Funny how whining comes mostly from perenial losers.

Again, reguardless of all these "millions" of people's opinions, did Kimo ever have another hit on a player that even raised a bit of conserversy? To say he intentionally tried to injure Palmer doesn't even make sense. He has ZERO history of being dirty, and he has played in many other playoff games before (even deeper in the playoffs and against better qbs than Palmer). If he decided playoff time was "play dirty and intentionally try in injure other players time" how come Palmer is the only player he ever hurt? Never happened to McNair, Brady or Manning. The Steelers were a game away from the Super Bowl in 01 and 04, don't you think that would have been a good time to intentionally try to injure Brady? Again, not even a conserversal play occured in either of these games. If Brady would have went down in the AFC Championship game (or if they didn't use they most elaborate cheating scheme out of all 7 years of cheating in the 04 game) would would have likely won and been in the Super Bowl. Beating the Bungals in the first round didn't lock up our SB chances like winning the AFC Champ game would. Just to make it clear, any number of people can have the same OPINION, that still doesn't override FACT or make their opinions correct. Just think of this past presidental election, you will understand.

[Spunkonmyback DPOY]

@riffer-x said:

Kimo was another Roid Monk.

He took his Roid Rage out on Palmer, plain and simple.

If Kimo did use roids, it simply made the matchup between him and Tucker even......

[neohionative]

@the-gipper said:

The only championships that are counted are those in the NFL and the two leagues that merged with the NFL: the AFL and AAFC.

If I had wanted to do it the way you claim I have done it, I could have. I could have included some from defunct leagues and predecessor leagues. The fact of the matter is that the NFL is indeed the successor of the "Ohio League" and some compilations even include the Ohio League titles in their list of Professional Football League titles. And here is that list:

Game scores marked with a † (1921 and 1932) were not official championship games, but were the deciding games in determining a championship and also the last games played in a season.

1902 (NFL1902) - Pittsburgh Stars 11, Philadelphia Athletics 0

There was no NFL in 1902 it was formed in Canton in 1920.

[Spunkonmyback DPOY]

@calfoxwc said:

Rooney is just a goof, a lucky goof at that, but

the squeelers great "org" got pretty lucky. Come on, the "Immaculate Reception" was

genius by the "great org" ?

The Kimo Von Cheapshotten hit on Palmer's knee? And all this crap is condoned by this "great org"

ROF,L.

Besides all that, so many of their fans just belligerantly came on board when they started winning.

I miss the old "I hate the Steelers" emoticon.

[kshutchins]

Formerly Stone said:

See what I mean? Most of the members here seem to spend more time hating some aspect of the Steelers organization or it's fans than they do understanding the Browns ......although Kathy seldom dwells on it like most others.

Kathy, if you think it's tough to handle the fans of a great organization you should try putting up with the disillusion fans of a terrible organization who used to be a great organization ......... eons ago!

Well, I try to avoid the fans that irritate me by staying home. Sadly, the source of my annoyance keeps arriving uninvited, creating a nuisance. Perhaps if you stayed home, your problem and mine would be resolved.

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

@calfoxwc said:

Sorry freakish, no bitterness here.

Just a keen disdain for a whole bunch of johnnycomelately squeeler fans that decided the steelers were going to the super bowl

for the first time, and looney rooney. But, I don't miss Cowher's spittle splashing up on the tv camera's during the superbowls.

I won't miss the worst of steeler trolls when they decide to talk about their own football team somewhere else.

After all, it not our Browns' fault, nor our fault, that the steriodals and their bandwagoner "fans" are so boring they come here

and troll.

LOL...BITTER Fan is the Phrase that comes to mind. But you go ahead and live in denial. Its what you do best. This is the only place in America where Obsession on Pittsburgh is Daily and never ending. You embarrass yourselves. DAILY and Never ending so it seems...

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

Formerly Stone said:

You're making a big leap in assuming he is a man! That much whining could only come from a spoiled brat.

You got me there Stoney... A Kid a wench or a Cross dressing Homo... Much larger possibilities of being accurate.

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

Formerly Stone said:

Funny how you would count AAFC titles but when it is pointed out that the Browns weren't the undisputed champions in 1964 because the Buffalo Bills won the AFL title in 1964 Browns fans will rush to tell you that the AFL didn't count.

Things that make you go hmmm...

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

Formerly Stone said:

You're making a big leap in assuming he is a man! That much whining could only come from a spoiled brat.

It's cute how you two converse. You're like soul mates. All you have is each other.

It's really just like a Lifetime movie.

[The Gipper]

@neohionative said:

There was no NFL in 1902 it was formed in Canton in 1920.

Right, which is why I don't count it. I only count the NFL and leagues that merged with it.

[The Gipper]

Formerly Stone said:

Funny how you would count AAFC titles but when it is pointed out that the Browns weren't the undisputed champions in 1964 because the Buffalo Bills won the AFL title in 1964 Browns fans will rush to tell you that the AFL didn't count.

I don't know any Browns fans that say the AFL didn't count? Any more than they would think the Eagles title of 1948 wouldn't count. They say that they think if the Browns and Bills played that they believe the Browns would have won, but that is all speculation. The AFL, and the Bills 1964 title do count.

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

@the-gipper said:

Right, which is why I don't count it. I only count the NFL and leagues that merged with it.

Gip the AAFC didnt merge with it. Teams FROM the AAFC were granted entry , but not even Half of them... not a merger. I see what your saying though.

[The Gipper]

FREAKofSTEEL08 said:

Gip the AAFC didnt merge with it. Teams FROM the AAFC were granted entry , but not even Half of them... not a merger. I see what your saying though.

Most sources call it a merger. You can call it an absorption. It was as much of one as when the ABA "merged"/was absorbed by the NBA, or when the WHA "merged/was absorbed by the NHL.

In the history of all major professional sports in this country, the only "new leagues" to maintain any sort of continuing identity if you will were the American League in Baseball, and the AFL in football which morphed into the AFC.

(If you think about it, I personally prefer the retention of those identities. I don't like the NBA and NHL deals where East must always meet West. It is more interesting to have the possibility say of a New York/New York or San Francisco/Oakland World Series or Super Bowl. In the NBA/NHL you always have to have one team from the East and one team from the West.)

[The Gipper]

Formerly Stone said:

So who won the championship in 1964, the Bills or the Browns?

Easy: Both

That is just the way it was. We have had a few years at times when you had two champs: late 40s and early 60s.

Again, the same was true in Basketball. e.g. from 1968 through about 1976 you had two professional basketball champions: ABA and NBA. At that point several teams from the ABA joined the NBA (Spurs/Pacers/Nets/Nuggets) Same with hockey with the WHA which had champions from about 1972 though 1979. Then several of those teams merged into the NHL (Winnipeg Jets nka Phoenix Coyotes, Quebec Nordiques nka Colorado Avalanche, New England Whalers nka Carolina Hurricane, and the Edmonton Oilers)

[Kosar_For_President]

@the-gipper said:

Again, the same was true in Basketball. e.g. from 1968 through about 1976 you had two professional basketball champions: ABA and NBA.

Exactly! No one is denying the Celtics dynasty. Even when they had 12 teams in the league and had the ABA. Anyone, nope, thought so, bitches.

[The Gipper]

@kosar_for_president said:

Exactly! No one is denying the Celtics dynasty. Even when they had 12 teams in the league and had the ABA. Anyone, nope, thought so, bitches.

If the ABA and the NBA had had some kind of "Basketball Super Bowl" in those years, I suspect the Celtics would probably have won....but you never really know. NO ONE thought the Jets would win SB III. Hey, maybe those Pittsburgh Pipers with Connie Hawkins, Charlie Williams, and Chico Vaughn could have taken out Russell/Havlicek et al.

Hawkins was a definite horse, no doubt. See this link:

http://www.remembertheaba.com/Pittsburgh-Pipers.html

[The Gipper]

You Pittsburghers could have yourself a sweet throwback uni if you could get a hold of one of these babies. A Connie Hawkins Pipers warmup jacket.

[The Gipper]

Just this past December the New Orleans Hornets donned the throwback jerseys of the New Orleans Buccaneers who lost that title series to those Peetown Pipers. Here is a photo of Chris Paul in one of those jerseys:

[The Gipper]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont...?urn=nba,186133

Another view of those New Orleans Buccaneers....who, by the way, until the Saints this week, were the ONLY team from New Orleans to make the finals of a major American sports league.

[BUNSofSTEEL08]

@the-gipper said:

Most sources call it a merger. You can call it an absorption. It was as much of one as when the ABA "merged"/was absorbed by the NBA, or when the WHA "merged/was absorbed by the NHL.

In the history of all major professional sports in this country, the only "new leagues" to maintain any sort of continuing identity if you will were the American League in Baseball, and the AFL in football which morphed into the AFC.

(If you think about it, I personally prefer the retention of those identities. I don't like the NBA and NHL deals where East must always meet West. It is more interesting to have the possibility say of a New York/New York or San Francisco/Oakland World Series or Super Bowl. In the NBA/NHL you always have to have one team from the East and one team from the West.)

pota~to Potat~o I guess. Anyway , The AAFC had a few good Squads (Yes One Outstanding squad) ... But as a League. Left a little to be desired .