Big Ben Accused of Rape... again
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DUMBASS! Im not the one on the hot seat here your QB is. And you feel the need to point out that I say without a doubt your QB is GUILTY. You can cry about me all you want but it still don,t change the fact that your Ben is a POS that rapes woman. But if it makes you feel better cry about me. Im only on here about 3 times a week so I don't care.
Shocking... And Your a Know it all !! "Rapes Women" ?? LOL... Come on man. The Chances of that being the case are Little and None. But kick cry scream and Tremble all you want little boy , You still sound like the bitter dickweed that you are. Not crying a bit ... actually Laugh out loud when I read this BS. I point out that 95% of Steeler Fans are pissed and disgusted That our Top Flight QB has no class , that hes a Man-Whore. But we are at least sane enough to understand how the world works. Your little butt thinks Poor precious little College girl ... I went to College and DAMN , a Large percentage of them girls had a PLAN at ALL Times. ALL TIMES. 25 yrs later , I bet they are even slicker. And in this case she has takes the Western Ohio Boy to the Woodshed. Cha Freakin CHING $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !! Grow up medicineman... this is the world we live in. All your whining Rape Rape in the World wont Change that . That chick would be laughing he Tail off listening to You. She Got you ... and She can get a Jury. Ben has major issues ...unless Cha Ching $$$ In my opinion.
Add to that , If he is Charged OR Settles out of court I would like to see him Suspended . He NEEDS to learn a lesson. If they sat him half the season I wouldn't be against it.
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Shocking... And Your a Know it all !! "Rapes Women" ?? LOL... Come on man. The Chances of that being the case are Little and None. But kick cry scream and Tremble all you want little boy , You still sound like the bitter dickweed that you are. Not crying a bit ... actually Laugh out loud when I read this BS. I point out that 95% of Steeler Fans are pissed and disgusted That our Top Flight QB has no class , that hes a Man-Whore. But we are at least sane enough to understand how the world works. Your little butt thinks Poor precious little College girl ... I went to College and DAMN , a Large percentage of them girls had a PLAN at ALL Times. ALL TIMES. 25 yrs later , I bet they are even slicker. And in this case she has takes the Western Ohio Boy to the Woodshed. Cha Freakin CHING $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !! Grow up medicineman... this is the world we live in. All your whining Rape Rape in the World wont Change that . That chick would be laughing he Tail off listening to You. She Got you ... and She can get a Jury. Ben has major issues ...unless Cha Ching $$$ In my opinion.Add to that , If he is Charged OR Settles out of court I would like to see him Suspended . He NEEDS to learn a lesson. If they sat him half the season I wouldn't be against it.
Come on freak....I am not ripping the guy like some and to a large degree agree with your argument.....but it is only to mitigate the facts, not dispute the facts.
He was the guy setting up camp in the outhouse...that alone tells me he is a piece of crap. Having or planning sex in the outhouse....pisses me off really, the more I think about it.
What if some guy lured your daughter or sister in to the bathroom....even if she wanted to go???
I am not sure here.....did she go in to his restroom or he go in to hers??? It makes a little difference, but not a lot......just determines if I slap my sister or daughter around a bit...and I have never done that, but I am sure that is the part on which some will key, or if I just hunted him down for a face to face.
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I grew up in Sandusky My Sandusky Blue Streaks played the Findlay Blojans every year and still do last I checked. I attended many games in Findlay. Knew several friends who attended college at the U of Findlay (Oilers.) I have friends from Findlay and I worked with people from Findlay. From 2003-2008 I worked in Tiffin and frequently shopped or hung out in Findlay and for a brief time in 1983 I even LIVED in Findlay and I can tell you from all that....Findlay WAS PREDOMINATELY A Browns Town....with a smattering of Bunghole fans BEFORE Apeface Rapeburglar got drafted by Cowturd. That town turned Squeeler Gay overnight and the entire town should be bussed to Pennsyltucky and forced to live in that filth for their weakness.
Doug
Yellow, Let me guess, your younger bother grew up with and was best friends with Orlando Pace and he was always over your house right?
Yellow, Let me guess, your younger bother grew up with and was best friends with Orlando Pace and he was always over your house right?
I went to school with some of his cousins. The Pace name is not at all uncommon in Sandtown. I'm older than he is by several years so I never really knew him...although I did sell him about $100 worth of Hip Hop CD's in 2001. Huge dude...nice guy. What was your point?
Doug
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Pitt is what causes these guys to go all sexual deviant. Can you blame them?
By all accounts, Kordells was straight before he ended up there.
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First off, the fact that you cannot read a map tells me that anything you say is probably said out of ignorance. Findlay is about twice the distance from Cincinnati as it is from Detroit. In fact, here are the numbers: Findlay to Detroit: 83 miles. Findlay to Cincinnati: 161 miles. Findlay to Cleveland: 97 miles
And yea, I do have a hick relation (by marriage) from St. Mary's that has told me that that area is primarily Browns fans. One was a City Councilman, the other a dentist, another a turkey farmer.
I mean, you have proven to me that you are a dumb hick from Findlay that can't even figure out where the F**k in the world you are, so, yes, I am going to trust my smart hick relatives from St. Mary's rather than some proven dumb hick from Findlay.
As far as who Findlay roots for, I would expect them to now naturally for their home town boy, and to have some affinity for the team he plays for, but even his own statements have shown that that area wasn't "Steeler area" because, as I said, he proclaimed he was a 49er fan.
By the way...what team are YOU a fan of? (Maybe you see "Steeler gear" there only because you notice that, and don't notice the gear from other teams.)
Hello, When I said Detroit I meant about 8-10 years ago (before big bens rise), and where detroit actually played , The Silverdome. I'm a Browns fan just not a Retarded one like the ones on this board who says rapistberger and whines ward are over rated. I just try to be realistic. Less chance to be disappointed. As far as everyone in the state being a browns fan, thats great. If you say its true, thats good enough for me. You have no reason to lie right? I apoligize if I offended you.
Hello, When I said Detroit I meant about 8-10 years ago (before big bens rise), and where detroit actually played , The Silverdome. I'm a Browns fan just not a Retarded one like the ones on this board who says rapistberger and whines ward are over rated. I just try to be realistic. Less chance to be disappointed. As far as everyone in the state being a browns fan, thats great. If you say its true, thats good enough for me. You have no reason to lie right? I apoligize if I offended you.
All I was doing was giving you a little geography lesson. If you said Pontiac, that distance might have been closed a little (Pontiac would still be closer than Cinci though).
I too have never felt Hines Ward was overrated. He is/(was?) a very good, tough player....but I also noted that he DID, on occasion commit what most feel is a dirty play.
On BR, I felt that in his first few years in the league he may have been overrated. I still do NOT believe that he was a key factor to the Steelers SB win in 2005. That title was won by that team's superior defense and running game, and any competent, mistake free QB could have brought home that title.
2008 is another matter. I think BR WAS a key element, if not The key element to their win that year. They became far more of a passer reliant team, and he delivered in the clutch quite a bit. Obviously, especially in the Super Bowl. I didn't like seeing that, but it was a fact.
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Yellow, Let me guess, your younger bother grew up with and was best friends with Orlando Pace and he was always over your house right?
I went to school with some of his cousins. The Pace name is not at all uncommon in Sandtown. I'm older than he is by several years so I never really knew him...although I did sell him about $100 worth of Hip Hop CD's in 2001. Huge dude...nice guy. What was your point?
Doug
I went to school with some of his cousins. The Pace name is not at all uncommon in Sandtown. I'm older than he is by several years so I never really knew him...although I did sell him about $100 worth of Hip Hop CD's in 2001. Huge dude...nice guy. What was your point?
Doug
Haha, I was pretty close wasn't I? No point, just messing around
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Shocking... And Your a Know it all !! "Rapes Women" ?? LOL... Come on man. The Chances of that being the case are Little and None. But kick cry scream and Tremble all you want little boy , You still sound like the bitter dickweed that you are. Not crying a bit ... actually Laugh out loud when I read this BS. I point out that 95% of Steeler Fans are pissed and disgusted That our Top Flight QB has no class , that hes a Man-Whore. But we are at least sane enough to understand how the world works. Your little butt thinks Poor precious little College girl ... I went to College and DAMN , a Large percentage of them girls had a PLAN at ALL Times. ALL TIMES. 25 yrs later , I bet they are even slicker. And in this case she has takes the Western Ohio Boy to the Woodshed. Cha Freakin CHING $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ !! Grow up medicineman... this is the world we live in. All your whining Rape Rape in the World wont Change that . That chick would be laughing he Tail off listening to You. She Got you ... and She can get a Jury. Ben has major issues ...unless Cha Ching $$$ In my opinion.Add to that , If he is Charged OR Settles out of court I would like to see him Suspended . He NEEDS to learn a lesson. If they sat him half the season I wouldn't be against it.
Come on freak....I am not ripping the guy like some and to a large degree agree with your argument.....but it is only to mitigate the facts, not dispute the facts.
He was the guy setting up camp in the outhouse...that alone tells me he is a piece of crap. Having or planning sex in the outhouse....pisses me off really, the more I think about it.
What if some guy lured your daughter or sister in to the bathroom....even if she wanted to go???
I am not sure here.....did she go in to his restroom or he go in to hers??? It makes a little difference, but not a lot......just determines if I slap my sister or daughter around a bit...and I have never done that, but I am sure that is the part on which some will key, or if I just hunted him down for a face to face.
Come on freak....I am not ripping the guy like some and to a large degree agree with your argument.....but it is only to mitigate the facts, not dispute the facts.
He was the guy setting up camp in the outhouse...that alone tells me he is a piece of crap. Having or planning sex in the outhouse....pisses me off really, the more I think about it.
What if some guy lured your daughter or sister in to the bathroom....even if she wanted to go???
I am not sure here.....did she go in to his restroom or he go in to hers??? It makes a little difference, but not a lot......just determines if I slap my sister or daughter around a bit...and I have never done that, but I am sure that is the part on which some will key, or if I just hunted him down for a face to face.
I already said he pisses me off. Already said he has exposed himself as a low class individual. But that doesn't Make him a Rapist. I aint kissing his nasty A** . NOT Happy at all. Actually would welcome a suspension if Charges are brought . Not sure how I will feel when this is all over. But Dude needs to come clean and admit he has issues and needs a change. Will I be happy to see him tossing TDs for us ? I will take them , but not sure Happy will ever apply again. But the guy is NO Rapist. Common sense says its life in America land of the Free Home of the Brave (And Sadly the Perverted). All this illicit sex is a symptom of a larger underlying issue in America. Its everywhere ... dumb ass young people with absolutely no Control.
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Come on freak....I am not ripping the guy like some and to a large degree agree with your argument.....but it is only to mitigate the facts, not dispute the facts.
He was the guy setting up camp in the outhouse...that alone tells me he is a piece of crap. Having or planning sex in the outhouse....pisses me off really, the more I think about it.
What if some guy lured your daughter or sister in to the bathroom....even if she wanted to go???
I am not sure here.....did she go in to his restroom or he go in to hers??? It makes a little difference, but not a lot......just determines if I slap my sister or daughter around a bit...and I have never done that, but I am sure that is the part on which some will key, or if I just hunted him down for a face to face.
I already said he pisses me off. Already said he has exposed himself as a low class individual. But that doesn't Make him a Rapist. I aint kissing his nasty A** . NOT Happy at all. Actually would welcome a suspension if Charges are brought . Not sure how I will feel when this is all over. But Dude needs to come clean and admit he has issues and needs a change. Will I be happy to see him tossing TDs for us ? I will take them , but not sure Happy will ever apply again. But the guy is NO Rapist. Common sense says its life in America land of the Free Home of the Brave (And Sadly the Perverted). All this illicit sex is a symptom of a larger underlying issue in America. Its everywhere ... dumb ass young people with absolutely no Control.
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
I already said he pisses me off. Already said he has exposed himself as a low class individual. But that doesn't Make him a Rapist. I aint kissing his nasty A** . NOT Happy at all. Actually would welcome a suspension if Charges are brought . Not sure how I will feel when this is all over. But Dude needs to come clean and admit he has issues and needs a change. Will I be happy to see him tossing TDs for us ? I will take them , but not sure Happy will ever apply again. But the guy is NO Rapist. Common sense says its life in America land of the Free Home of the Brave (And Sadly the Perverted). All this illicit sex is a symptom of a larger underlying issue in America. Its everywhere ... dumb ass young people with absolutely no Control.Are you really going to blame all of America because Ben is a serial rapist?
It's clearly the city of Pittsburgh that is the problem. If it wasn't full of fat nasty bitches Ben wouldn't have gone to Georgia in the first place.
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
I already said he pisses me off. Already said he has exposed himself as a low class individual. But that doesn't Make him a Rapist. I aint kissing his nasty A** . NOT Happy at all. Actually would welcome a suspension if Charges are brought . Not sure how I will feel when this is all over. But Dude needs to come clean and admit he has issues and needs a change. Will I be happy to see him tossing TDs for us ? I will take them , but not sure Happy will ever apply again. But the guy is NO Rapist. Common sense says its life in America land of the Free Home of the Brave (And Sadly the Perverted). All this illicit sex is a symptom of a larger underlying issue in America. Its everywhere ... dumb ass young people with absolutely no Control.Are you really going to blame all of America because Ben is a serial rapist?
It's clearly the city of Pittsburgh that is the problem. If it wasn't full of fat nasty bitches Ben wouldn't have gone to Georgia in the first place.
Are you really going to blame all of America because Ben is a serial rapist?
It's clearly the city of Pittsburgh that is the problem. If it wasn't full of fat nasty bitches Ben wouldn't have gone to Georgia in the first place.
Did i "Blame" America ? Read my post you brain dead moron . Simply pointed out that Ben isn't the only Young Adult in the Country "Perving" out . In fact I strongly show disaproval of his actions . It was Still HIS choice , but if your naive enough to not realize the Condition of America Shame on you. Thats all I was adding at the bottom of my post.
And the "City of Pittsburgh" ??? What on Earth does that have to do with anything , Every American City is full of Strip Joints and Massage Parlors . I worked in Cleveland for 2 yrs and drove by many of them. Put down the Crack pipe Retardo... You just looking to stir up Shit. That way you can eat and be nourished. Your are what you eat and youur words are Shit so I have to figure that you also Eat it. Geez , What a Dumb-ass you are. You low life "Geeezer".
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Rorbotron said:
Alright so I had to make a new name because my old information was either banned or ceased to work. (FYI this is Snatch98) Ben certainly isn't going to get suspended by the NFL and it's mind blowingly Retarded to insinuate that he should or will. As far as his personal conduct I agree. The dude should flat out be more careful of his actions and I can personally attest that he's not. The police chief of my community is the former commander of the State Police, he was forced to retire because he's 60. Anyway he's a personal friend of Big Ben and flat out said that he can't keep it in his pants and I know he's slept with a good number of chicks in my area and surrounding. He certainly doesn't have "standards". Now with that being said he sure as sh.it isn't raping girls and certainly doesn't have too. What reports aren't saying because it's not "news worthy" is that several bartenders that night say the allegations are ridiculous and that the chick in question was ALL OVER HIM. Now all of the sudden it's rape and it's "rape" or "sexual assault" because Big Ben has dollars signs on his chest and a target on his back. He hasn't been charged, the first incident the chick was full of sh.it...what makes anyone think this is any different? He's an idiot for sleeping around but you can be rest assured he's not going to be suspended and he won't be charged.Sh.it is getting old and I fully expected everyone here to be all over it. I would be too if I were a fan from a different fan base.
Yeah well my friends, brothers, uncles, cousins best friend works for the FBI and he said he's an A-hole rapist.
How did she hit her head again?
Yeah well my friends, brothers, uncles, cousins best friend works for the FBI and he said he's an A-hole rapist.
How did she hit her head again?
Yea since my chain of knowledge is that long. All I said is the police chief in my area knows Big Ben personally and my family is close with the Police chief. He said he can't keep it in his pants and my point was Big Ben has dollar signs on his chest and a target on his back. If you disagree fine and Yos or whatever the hell your screen name is/was what the hell are you talking about? I'm an ass because I said that Big Ben can't keep it in his pants, but also made it clear that the amount of chicks he throws down and many "not exactly lookers" I don't think he's concerned with "raping" anyone.
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Rorbotron said:
He's not going to be charged because the charge are BS just like the ones brought forth by the first bimbo. Big Ben is an idiot for sleeping around but he's no rapist. The media is loving it because it's the off season and the draft has yet to arrive. Hopefully he'll get his sh.it together after this though because the sleeping with anything that moves routine is getting old but once again I can state with great confidence that is exactly what occurs.you are an ass... next time, know what the shot is berfore you open your mouth
you are an ass... next time, know what the shot is berfore you open your mouth
I'll quote you now. What the hell are you talking about? Know what the "Shot" is...?
EDIT: and I've read nothing about "charges" because "charges" have not been brought.
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Hello, When I said Detroit I meant about 8-10 years ago (before big bens rise), and where detroit actually played , The Silverdome. I'm a Browns fan just not a Retarded one like the ones on this board who says rapistberger and whines ward are over rated. I just try to be realistic. Less chance to be disappointed. As far as everyone in the state being a browns fan, thats great. If you say its true, thats good enough for me. You have no reason to lie right? I apoligize if I offended you.
All I was doing was giving you a little geography lesson. If you said Pontiac, that distance might have been closed a little (Pontiac would still be closer than Cinci though).
I too have never felt Hines Ward was overrated. He is/(was?) a very good, tough player....but I also noted that he DID, on occasion commit what most feel is a dirty play.
On BR, I felt that in his first few years in the league he may have been overrated. I still do NOT believe that he was a key factor to the Steelers SB win in 2005. That title was won by that team's superior defense and running game, and any competent, mistake free QB could have brought home that title.
2008 is another matter. I think BR WAS a key element, if not The key element to their win that year. They became far more of a passer reliant team, and he delivered in the clutch quite a bit. Obviously, especially in the Super Bowl. I didn't like seeing that, but it was a fact.
All I was doing was giving you a little geography lesson. If you said Pontiac, that distance might have been closed a little (Pontiac would still be closer than Cinci though).
I too have never felt Hines Ward was overrated. He is/(was?) a very good, tough player....but I also noted that he DID, on occasion commit what most feel is a dirty play.
On BR, I felt that in his first few years in the league he may have been overrated. I still do NOT believe that he was a key factor to the Steelers SB win in 2005. That title was won by that team's superior defense and running game, and any competent, mistake free QB could have brought home that title.
2008 is another matter. I think BR WAS a key element, if not The key element to their win that year. They became far more of a passer reliant team, and he delivered in the clutch quite a bit. Obviously, especially in the Super Bowl. I didn't like seeing that, but it was a fact
.You and I agree on the basics of almost everything. The only difference is your a Browns fan and I'm a Steelers fan. I refuse to call a play the rulebook allows "dirty", but just like every player Hines has made mistakes and commited fouls. I agree, as long as Ben didn't do anything to lose Super Bowl XL we win that game...But, if it wasn't for Ben we would have never made the playoffs that year and no other qb in NFL history had 3 consecutive multi passing TD games against the top 3 seeds in the confrence to make it to the Super Bowl. Not to mention they were all away games.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
Are you really going to blame all of America because Ben is a serial rapist?
It's clearly the city of Pittsburgh that is the problem. If it wasn't full of fat nasty bitches Ben wouldn't have gone to Georgia in the first place.
Did i "Blame" America ? Read my post you brain dead moron . Simply pointed out that Ben isn't the only Young Adult in the Country "Perving" out . In fact I strongly show disaproval of his actions . It was Still HIS choice , but if your naive enough to not realize the Condition of America Shame on you. Thats all I was adding at the bottom of my post.
And the "City of Pittsburgh" ??? What on Earth does that have to do with anything , Every American City is full of Strip Joints and Massage Parlors . I worked in Cleveland for 2 yrs and drove by many of them. Put down the Crack pipe Retardo... You just looking to stir up Shit. That way you can eat and be nourished. Your are what you eat and youur words are Shit so I have to figure that you also Eat it. Geez , What a Dumb-ass you are. You low life "Geeezer".
FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Did i "Blame" America ? Read my post you brain dead moron . Simply pointed out that Ben isn't the only Young Adult in the Country "Perving" out . In fact I strongly show disaproval of his actions .Oh now you have a problem with young people having sex? Typical Pittsburgh scum. Hating on young people getting laid in an attempt to justify supporting a serial rapist as your QB. Young people didn't make Ben rape that woman. But you Squeeler inbred hillbillies don't take responsibility for your excessive weight and missing teeth, I don't expect Ben to take responsibility for his rape addiction either.
but if your naive enough to not realize the Condition of America Shame on you. Thats all I was adding at the bottom of my post.
It's "you're" not "your" and "That's" not "Thats". But I'm not surprised you failed English, considering it must be hard for Stooler fans to concentrate in school knowing daddy is going to give them the "bad touch" when they go to sleep.
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All I was doing was giving you a little geography lesson. If you said Pontiac, that distance might have been closed a little (Pontiac would still be closer than Cinci though).
I too have never felt Hines Ward was overrated. He is/(was?) a very good, tough player....but I also noted that he DID, on occasion commit what most feel is a dirty play.
On BR, I felt that in his first few years in the league he may have been overrated. I still do NOT believe that he was a key factor to the Steelers SB win in 2005. That title was won by that team's superior defense and running game, and any competent, mistake free QB could have brought home that title.
2008 is another matter. I think BR WAS a key element, if not The key element to their win that year. They became far more of a passer reliant team, and he delivered in the clutch quite a bit. Obviously, especially in the Super Bowl. I didn't like seeing that, but it was a fact
.You and I agree on the basics of almost everything. The only difference is your a Browns fan and I'm a Steelers fan. I refuse to call a play the rulebook allows "dirty", but just like every player Hines has made mistakes and commited fouls. I agree, as long as Ben didn't do anything to lose Super Bowl XL we win that game...But, if it wasn't for Ben we would have never made the playoffs that year and no other qb in NFL history had 3 consecutive multi passing TD games against the top 3 seeds in the confrence to make it to the Super Bowl. Not to mention they were all away games.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
You and I agree on the basics of almost everything. The only difference is your a Browns fan and I'm a Steelers fan. I refuse to call a play the rulebook allows "dirty", but just like every player Hines has made mistakes and commited fouls. I agree, as long as Ben didn't do anything to lose Super Bowl XL we win that game...But, if it wasn't for Ben we would have never made the playoffs that year and no other qb in NFL history had 3 consecutive multi passing TD games against the top 3 seeds in the confrence to make it to the Super Bowl. Not to mention they were all away games.Well, Ward's peers..other NFL players... have rated him one of the dirtiest players in the games. This is not Browns fans stating this. I mean, WE didn't make this up. Perhaps he has obtained a reputation and cannot now shake it.
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
You and I agree on the basics of almost everything. The only difference is your a Browns fan and I'm a Steelers fan. I refuse to call a play the rulebook allows "dirty", but just like every player Hines has made mistakes and commited fouls. I agree, as long as Ben didn't do anything to lose Super Bowl XL we win that game...But, if it wasn't for Ben we would have never made the playoffs that year and no other qb in NFL history had 3 consecutive multi passing TD games against the top 3 seeds in the confrence to make it to the Super Bowl. Not to mention they were all away games.Well, Ward's peers..other NFL players... have rated him one of the dirtiest players in the games. This is not Browns fans stating this. I mean, WE didn't make this up. Perhaps he has obtained a reputation and cannot now shake it.
Well, Ward's peers..other NFL players... have rated him one of the dirtiest players in the games. This is not Browns fans stating this. I mean, WE didn't make this up. Perhaps he has obtained a reputation and cannot now shake it.
Offensive players will tend to vote for defensive players and most likely defensive players voted for an offensive player, not a defensive peer. A wide range of defensive players could be labeled "dirty" as opposed to Hines and maybe a few lineman who the average player couldn't even name on offense.
Of course defenders, like Rivers, are going to hate the way Ward plays and most likely call him dirty. Up until last year no rule penalized the type of hit Ward made on Rivers. Ward's physical nature probably gets him more personal foul penalties than any other reciever, but his numbers aren't comparable to the average defenders numbers. All his hits people complain about happen during the play, not late hits clearly made after the play or when the player is way out of bounds. He never stomped on someone face after their helmet fell off or never dove for someone knees after the play is over and the targetted player is just standing there. Offense/defense biased made Hines an easy target to recieve most of the votes. I guess those same defensive players never committed a personal foul AND forgot when the signed their contract they agreed to play by the same rules Ward plays by.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
Well, Ward's peers..other NFL players... have rated him one of the dirtiest players in the games. This is not Browns fans stating this. I mean, WE didn't make this up. Perhaps he has obtained a reputation and cannot now shake it.
Offensive players will tend to vote for defensive players and most likely defensive players voted for an offensive player, not a defensive peer. A wide range of defensive players could be labeled "dirty" as opposed to Hines and maybe a few lineman who the average player couldn't even name on offense.
Of course defenders, like Rivers, are going to hate the way Ward plays and most likely call him dirty. Up until last year no rule penalized the type of hit Ward made on Rivers. Ward's physical nature probably gets him more personal foul penalties than any other reciever, but his numbers aren't comparable to the average defenders numbers. All his hits people complain about happen during the play, not late hits clearly made after the play or when the player is way out of bounds. He never stomped on someone face after their helmet fell off or never dove for someone knees after the play is over and the targetted player is just standing there. Offense/defense biased made Hines an easy target to recieve most of the votes. I guess those same defensive players never committed a personal foul AND forgot when the signed their contract they agreed to play by the same rules Ward plays by.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
Offensive players will tend to vote for defensive players and most likely defensive players voted for an offensive player, not a defensive peer. A wide range of defensive players could be labeled "dirty" as opposed to Hines and maybe a few lineman who the average player couldn't even name on offense.Of course defenders, like Rivers, are going to hate the way Ward plays and most likely call him dirty. Up until last year no rule penalized the type of hit Ward made on Rivers. Ward's physical nature probably gets him more personal foul penalties than any other reciever, but his numbers aren't comparable to the average defenders numbers. All his hits people complain about happen during the play, not late hits clearly made after the play or when the player is way out of bounds. He never stomped on someone face after their helmet fell off or never dove for someone knees after the play is over and the targetted player is just standing there. Offense/defense biased made Hines an easy target to recieve most of the votes. I guess those same defensive players never committed a personal foul AND forgot when the signed their contract they agreed to play by the same rules Ward plays by.
Well, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and takes a dump like a duck, it might be a duck.
There are a couple of hundred or more other players in the NFL that played the same position and had the same opportunities to do what Ward has done, and none of them were labelled the way Ward was. All I can say if his peers consider him dirty, there must be something to it.
I get something similar when I get people in court who perhaps have a ticket for failure to control their vehicle. They give the excuse that "well it was wet, or slippery, or icy" and that they shouldn't be held accountable for the fact they lost control and went off the road into the ditch. My response is often: "Well, 500 cars just went down that same road before you did, and 500 went down the road after you did and none of them failed to control their vehicles on the ice, snow, whatever. Only you. Did the ice on the road purposely get more slippery for you than these other 500 people" Unlikely.
The 500 other other players that are in the same position as Ward didn't slip on the ice, but he did, and ended up in the ditch labelled "the NFL's dirtiest player". So, just like those reckless drivers, Hines gets his ticket. Quit trying to worm out of it and just pay the fine!
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Ward never 'blocks' anybody that viciously when they see him coming. He takes some cheap shots, plain and simple. It's usually a blindside block and away from the play a good amount of time.
I agree that there is something to people calling him dirty, even if the rules don't agree. The rules are not perfect.
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FREAKofSTEEL08 said:
Did i "Blame" America ? Read my post you brain dead moron . Simply pointed out that Ben isn't the only Young Adult in the Country "Perving" out . In fact I strongly show disaproval of his actions .Oh now you have a problem with young people having sex? Typical Pittsburgh scum. Hating on young people getting laid in an attempt to justify supporting a serial rapist as your QB. Young people didn't make Ben rape that woman. But you Squeeler inbred hillbillies don't take responsibility for your excessive weight and missing teeth, I don't expect Ben to take responsibility for his rape addiction either.
but if your naive enough to not realize the Condition of America Shame on you. Thats all I was adding at the bottom of my post.
It's "you're" not "your" and "That's" not "Thats". But I'm not surprised you failed English, considering it must be hard for Stooler fans to concentrate in school knowing daddy is going to give them the "bad touch" when they go to sleep.
Oh now you have a problem with young people having sex? Typical Pittsburgh scum. Hating on young people getting laid in an attempt to justify supporting a serial rapist as your QB. Young people didn't make Ben rape that woman. But you Squeeler inbred hillbillies don't take responsibility for your excessive weight and missing teeth, I don't expect Ben to take responsibility for his rape addiction either.
It's "you're" not "your" and "That's" not "Thats". But I'm not surprised you failed English, considering it must be hard for Stooler fans to concentrate in school knowing daddy is going to give them the "bad touch" when they go to sleep.
An English lesson from a Hillbilly ?? Thank you Jed or Eb lol...and its a MESSAGE Board. Not exactly checking all The Words , your not my Prof and I am not trying to pull an A in Brownie Board English 101. we ALL do stuff like that, shortening the words. I am sure we can bust your sorry ass for the same type of infractions.
You are a TYPICAL Jack*** Diverting attention away from the issues. And I work in The Portage, Summit .Trumbull and Mahoning County Areas. LOTS of Fat people and a good chunk of "Toothless People. You need to quit you hillbilly Retard. I have to figure you to be an inbred , from the totally asinine stuff that falls from you Butt...errrrr.... Mouth. (Same basic opening on a guy like you) And really Young people dont need to go around having sex with multiple partners you moron. You must be raising some loser kids. I feel horrible for them. No morals and a Loser for a dad , terrible. Yap yap yap ... Go ahead and respond with the typical rhetoric. Blaa Blaa Blaa...
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Sivlerback DPOY said:
Offensive players will tend to vote for defensive players and most likely defensive players voted for an offensive player, not a defensive peer. A wide range of defensive players could be labeled "dirty" as opposed to Hines and maybe a few lineman who the average player couldn't even name on offense.Of course defenders, like Rivers, are going to hate the way Ward plays and most likely call him dirty. Up until last year no rule penalized the type of hit Ward made on Rivers. Ward's physical nature probably gets him more personal foul penalties than any other reciever, but his numbers aren't comparable to the average defenders numbers. All his hits people complain about happen during the play, not late hits clearly made after the play or when the player is way out of bounds. He never stomped on someone face after their helmet fell off or never dove for someone knees after the play is over and the targetted player is just standing there. Offense/defense biased made Hines an easy target to recieve most of the votes. I guess those same defensive players never committed a personal foul AND forgot when the signed their contract they agreed to play by the same rules Ward plays by.
Well, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and takes a dump like a duck, it might be a duck.
There are a couple of hundred or more other players in the NFL that played the same position and had the same opportunities to do what Ward has done, and none of them were labelled the way Ward was. All I can say if his peers consider him dirty, there must be something to it.
I get something similar when I get people in court who perhaps have a ticket for failure to control their vehicle. They give the excuse that "well it was wet, or slippery, or icy" and that they shouldn't be held accountable for the fact they lost control and went off the road into the ditch. My response is often: "Well, 500 cars just went down that same road before you did, and 500 went down the road after you did and none of them failed to control their vehicles on the ice, snow, whatever. Only you. Did the ice on the road purposely get more slippery for you than these other 500 people" Unlikely.
The 500 other other players that are in the same position as Ward didn't slip on the ice, but he did, and ended up in the ditch labelled "the NFL's dirtiest player". So, just like those reckless drivers, Hines gets his ticket. Quit trying to worm out of it and just pay the fine!
Well, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and takes a dump like a duck, it might be a duck.
There are a couple of hundred or more other players in the NFL that played the same position and had the same opportunities to do what Ward has done, and none of them were labelled the way Ward was. All I can say if his peers consider him dirty, there must be something to it.
I get something similar when I get people in court who perhaps have a ticket for failure to control their vehicle. They give the excuse that "well it was wet, or slippery, or icy" and that they shouldn't be held accountable for the fact they lost control and went off the road into the ditch. My response is often: "Well, 500 cars just went down that same road before you did, and 500 went down the road after you did and none of them failed to control their vehicles on the ice, snow, whatever. Only you. Did the ice on the road purposely get more slippery for you than these other 500 people" Unlikely.
The 500 other other players that are in the same position as Ward didn't slip on the ice, but he did, and ended up in the ditch labelled "the NFL's dirtiest player". So, just like those reckless drivers, Hines gets his ticket. Quit trying to worm out of it and just pay the fine
!Reguardless of how many people do (or don't) it doesn't make it more or less against the rules. Just becuase Ward is the only reciever who blocks doesn't mean the rules say he can't block.
Your scenario is misleading...Imagine there was no law that allows you to ticket those you fail to control their vehicle. That would be much more accurate as all of Ward's hits that got him labeled "dirty" happened when those hits were legal. Could you still ticket someone if there was absolutely no law that stated you could do so? If you don't like the law you could push to get it changed, but you can't pretend as if it exists when it doesn't.
"Hatred is gained as much by good works as by evil" - Niccolo Machiavelli "Expectation is the root of all heartache." - William Shakespeare "In time we hate that which we often fear. " - William Shakespeare "I DO ROIDS ... and GIVE HEAD" - ATENEARS http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=16312 http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06166/698372-66.stm Friday said, "posters on Internet message boards hide behind their keyboards and write things they would never have the courage to say aloud in public. He said posters who write tasteless messages use football and the rivalries between teams as a way of getting out their aggression in a non-violent manner." Predicted 2010 Steelers record from this board: 7-9; 6-10; 8-8; 9-7; 10-6 -
Well, if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and takes a dump like a duck, it might be a duck.
There are a couple of hundred or more other players in the NFL that played the same position and had the same opportunities to do what Ward has done, and none of them were labelled the way Ward was. All I can say if his peers consider him dirty, there must be something to it.
I get something similar when I get people in court who perhaps have a ticket for failure to control their vehicle. They give the excuse that "well it was wet, or slippery, or icy" and that they shouldn't be held accountable for the fact they lost control and went off the road into the ditch. My response is often: "Well, 500 cars just went down that same road before you did, and 500 went down the road after you did and none of them failed to control their vehicles on the ice, snow, whatever. Only you. Did the ice on the road purposely get more slippery for you than these other 500 people" Unlikely.
The 500 other other players that are in the same position as Ward didn't slip on the ice, but he did, and ended up in the ditch labelled "the NFL's dirtiest player". So, just like those reckless drivers, Hines gets his ticket. Quit trying to worm out of it and just pay the fine
!Reguardless of how many people do (or don't) it doesn't make it more or less against the rules. Just becuase Ward is the only reciever who blocks doesn't mean the rules say he can't block.
Your scenario is misleading...Imagine there was no law that allows you to ticket those you fail to control their vehicle. That would be much more accurate as all of Ward's hits that got him labeled "dirty" happened when those hits were legal. Could you still ticket someone if there was absolutely no law that stated you could do so? If you don't like the law you could push to get it changed, but you can't pretend as if it exists when it doesn't.
Sivlerback DPOY said:
Reguardless of how many people do (or don't) it doesn't make it more or less against the rules. Just becuase Ward is the only reciever who blocks doesn't mean the rules say he can't block.Actually Kevin Walter is known around the league as the best blocking WR. Many are great blockers, you just don't see them cheap shotting people outside of the play.
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