How can one be a fan of both
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Rorbotron said:
Of course you catch sh.it but it's never malicious. I went to college in Ohio and I caught plenty of sh.it but most of the time unless alcohol was involved the exchanges were friendly and funny. I've spent plenty of time in both cities and parts of Cleveland are certainly nice but Pittsburgh was rated the nations most livable city for the second time for a reason. I fully expect everyone here from either base to defend their respective cities. You should be proud of your home town and really thats what it all boils down too. A non-biased opinion gives the nod to Pittsburgh as evidenced by the most livable city nod. All of which doesn't mean Cleveland can't be enjoyed or loved. It's a matter of opinion. It just so happens that Pittsburgh lands on the favorable side more often. Pittsburgh really is a great, great city and it's a shame most of you won't enjoy it because of your hatred for the Steelers. I really like Columbus and Cleveland has it's moments.Of course, those "opinions" about what the most livable cities are change from magazine to magazine, from year to year. Cleveland "won" those polls itself a few years back.
But you are right, both towns are similar, have plenty to offer and enjoy, and a sports rivalry won't keep me from doing so, though I have no intention to go there soon. However, I had thought about it when I learned that there had been a National Heritage Area, administered by the National Park System that was to be set up there. Now, however I learn that the "Rivers of Steel National Heritage" will not be commissioned after all. It seems that the politician or politicians who were proposing it (from PA) have apparently overextended themselves as they also wanted essentially the entire state of PA to be a National Heritage area. They already have the "Oil Region" NHA, and the "Paths of Progress" NHA, and the Delaware-Lehigh Valley NHA, and the Lackawanna Valley NHA, and the Schuykill Valley NHA, and the Potomac NHA, and the Chesapeake Bay NHA, like I said, the entire damn state. Apparently the President and Congress said "that's enough", most other states have maybe one, two, or no NHA's...it is absurd to fund all these requests for Pennsylvania."
So, I will keep my eyes open on that. If it falls, I won't go, but if it succeeds I may check it out.
I have been to every major city in the US and Canada, and there are a lot of other places I have my eyes on, so Pittsburgh is not a high priority to visit...unless this other thing goes through and is implemented.
Here is link on this: http://www.nps.gov/state/PA/
But I can't get the Rivers of Steel link to activate. That may just be my computer, or maybe it has been deleted from the NPS site.
Of course, those "opinions" about what the most livable cities are change from magazine to magazine, from year to year. Cleveland "won" those polls itself a few years back.
But you are right, both towns are similar, have plenty to offer and enjoy, and a sports rivalry won't keep me from doing so, though I have no intention to go there soon. However, I had thought about it when I learned that there had been a National Heritage Area, administered by the National Park System that was to be set up there. Now, however I learn that the "Rivers of Steel National Heritage" will not be commissioned after all. It seems that the politician or politicians who were proposing it (from PA) have apparently overextended themselves as they also wanted essentially the entire state of PA to be a National Heritage area. They already have the "Oil Region" NHA, and the "Paths of Progress" NHA, and the Delaware-Lehigh Valley NHA, and the Lackawanna Valley NHA, and the Schuykill Valley NHA, and the Potomac NHA, and the Chesapeake Bay NHA, like I said, the entire damn state. Apparently the President and Congress said "that's enough", most other states have maybe one, two, or no NHA's...it is absurd to fund all these requests for Pennsylvania."
So, I will keep my eyes open on that. If it falls, I won't go, but if it succeeds I may check it out.
I have been to every major city in the US and Canada, and there are a lot of other places I have my eyes on, so Pittsburgh is not a high priority to visit...unless this other thing goes through and is implemented.
Here is link on this: http://www.nps.gov/state/PA/
But I can't get the Rivers of Steel link to activate. That may just be my computer, or maybe it has been deleted from the NPS site.
And that is exactly what it is an opinion!!!! I don't give a flying f*** about what Forbes or any other publication says. Considering they have a bias toward our town anyway. I'll be the judge of what I like, and what I don't like. I don't need a magazine to tell me. Sure Pittsburgh isn't all that bad, but it's not somewhere I would want to relocate to, and prefer the Cleveland area. Honestly, there are ONLY two other cold weather cities that I would want to relocate to, and that is Chicago or NYC. Other than that it would have to be a boat load of cash for me to even consider anywhere else in between.
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We've been voted #1 to, everybody gets a turn
http://www.nortech.org/News/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=39
http://www.balancedlivingmag.com/2006/July...able%20City.htm
1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico -
We all know that Pitttttsburgh is the most livable city, for INBRED HICKS!
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Of course, those "opinions" about what the most livable cities are change from magazine to magazine, from year to year. Cleveland "won" those polls itself a few years back.
But you are right, both towns are similar, have plenty to offer and enjoy, and a sports rivalry won't keep me from doing so, though I have no intention to go there soon. However, I had thought about it when I learned that there had been a National Heritage Area, administered by the National Park System that was to be set up there. Now, however I learn that the "Rivers of Steel National Heritage" will not be commissioned after all. It seems that the politician or politicians who were proposing it (from PA) have apparently overextended themselves as they also wanted essentially the entire state of PA to be a National Heritage area. They already have the "Oil Region" NHA, and the "Paths of Progress" NHA, and the Delaware-Lehigh Valley NHA, and the Lackawanna Valley NHA, and the Schuykill Valley NHA, and the Potomac NHA, and the Chesapeake Bay NHA, like I said, the entire damn state. Apparently the President and Congress said "that's enough", most other states have maybe one, two, or no NHA's...it is absurd to fund all these requests for Pennsylvania."
So, I will keep my eyes open on that. If it falls, I won't go, but if it succeeds I may check it out.
I have been to every major city in the US and Canada, and there are a lot of other places I have my eyes on, so Pittsburgh is not a high priority to visit...unless this other thing goes through and is implemented.
Here is link on this: http://www.nps.gov/state/PA/
But I can't get the Rivers of Steel link to activate. That may just be my computer, or maybe it has been deleted from the NPS site.
And that is exactly what it is an opinion!!!! I don't give a flying f*** about what Forbes or any other publication says. Considering they have a bias toward our town anyway. I'll be the judge of what I like, and what I don't like. I don't need a magazine to tell me. Sure Pittsburgh isn't all that bad, but it's not somewhere I would want to relocate to, and prefer the Cleveland area. Honestly, there are ONLY two other cold weather cities that I would want to relocate to, and that is Chicago or NYC. Other than that it would have to be a boat load of cash for me to even consider anywhere else in between.
And that is exactly what it is an opinion!!!! I don't give a flying f*** about what Forbes or any other publication says. Considering they have a bias toward our town anyway. I'll be the judge of what I like, and what I don't like. I don't need a magazine to tell me. Sure Pittsburgh isn't all that bad, but it's not somewhere I would want to relocate to, and prefer the Cleveland area. Honestly, there are ONLY two other cold weather cities that I would want to relocate to, and that is Chicago or NYC. Other than that it would have to be a boat load of cash for me to even consider anywhere else in between.
Who said you had too? The only reason it's brought up is because of the countless number of border line autistics on this board that automatically proclaim Pittsburgh some sort of trash dump when it's the polar opposite. It's getting the recognition for a reason and taking strides to make something of itself. The city has a whole has gone through a DRASTIC transformation since the Steel collapse and has really become a great place to live. The only reason people here won't say it is because of sport affiliation. I by and large hate Cleveland and it has nothing to do with sports. Certain areas are nice but for the most part IN MY OPINION it isn't bringing much to the table. I like the west side market and playhouse square is nice. Otherwise it's forgettable, once again my opinion. I could also never live in Chicago or NYC full time. Nice cities but the cost of living is through the roof, crime is through the roof and it's people on top of people. Less the case in Chicago but you get the idea.
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We've been voted #1 to, everybody gets a turn
http://www.nortech.org/News/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=39
http://www.balancedlivingmag.com/2006/July...able%20City.htm
nmills said:
We've been voted #1 to, everybody gets a turnhttp://www.nortech.org/News/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=39
http://www.balancedlivingmag.com/2006/July...able%20City.htm
The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.
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nmills said:
We've been voted #1 to, everybody gets a turnhttp://www.nortech.org/News/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=39
http://www.balancedlivingmag.com/2006/July...able%20City.htm
The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.
Rorbotron said:
The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.Thank you! Could Cleveland and NE Ohio be better? ABSOLUTELY! Am I happy for the most part? Yes. My biggest gripe is the weather, which is why I said that I wouldn't move to another cold weather city unless it was Chicago or NYC. Cold is cold, and while some cold weather cities get less snow than Cleveland, it's still cold. Speaking of weather, I really can't complain about this past Spring, and so far Summer. It has been absolutely wonderful. Aside from the fact that football is played in the Fall, the end of May through the end of July is my absolute favorite time of year.
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Bottom line on all this is that between the two cities Pittsburgh is in way better shape. Both have been massively screwed by Republican Politics by shipping Americas wealth building infrastructure overseas while spending all our monies on useless wars and massive increases in military spending of course both with no benefit to either since the infrastructure was outsourced.
Good reason for both cities to keep voting republican.........DUH........Pittsburgh has done a better job of working in high tech........which still has not been exported
in any case we are where we are.............a nation sending jobs away.........and demanding they be recreated out of thin air
sorta like fantasy land in disney
meanwhile the bickering about which sister city is not a turd is rediculous.............as both slowly become road kill as America commits itself to destroying itself
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Bottom line on all this is that between the two cities Pittsburgh is in way better shape. Both have been massively screwed by Republican Politics by shipping Americas wealth building infrastructure overseas while spending all our monies on useless wars and massive increases in military spending of course both with no benefit to either since the infrastructure was outsourced.
Good reason for both cities to keep voting republican.........DUH........Pittsburgh has done a better job of working in high tech........which still has not been exported
in any case we are where we are.............a nation sending jobs away.........and demanding they be recreated out of thin air
sorta like fantasy land in disney
meanwhile the bickering about which sister city is not a turd is rediculous.............as both slowly become road kill as America commits itself to destroying itself
Bottom line on all this is that between the two cities Pittsburgh is in way better shape. Both have been massively screwed by Republican Politics by shipping Americas wealth building infrastructure overseas while spending all our monies on useless wars and massive increases in military spending of course both with no benefit to either since the infrastructure was outsourced.
Good reason for both cities to keep voting republican.........DUH........Pittsburgh has done a better job of working in high tech........which still has not been exported
in any case we are where we are.............a nation sending jobs away.........and demanding they be recreated out of thin air
sorta like fantasy land in disney
meanwhile the bickering about which sister city is not a turd is rediculous.............as both slowly become road kill as America commits itself to destroying itself
How about keeping your political bullshit to the political room?
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Bottom line on all this is that between the two cities Pittsburgh is in way better shape. Both have been massively screwed by Republican Politics by shipping Americas wealth building infrastructure overseas while spending all our monies on useless wars and massive increases in military spending of course both with no benefit to either since the infrastructure was outsourced.
Good reason for both cities to keep voting republican.........DUH........Pittsburgh has done a better job of working in high tech........which still has not been exported
in any case we are where we are.............a nation sending jobs away.........and demanding they be recreated out of thin air
sorta like fantasy land in disney
meanwhile the bickering about which sister city is not a turd is rediculous.............as both slowly become road kill as America commits itself to destroying itself
How about keeping your political bullshit to the political room?
How about keeping your political bullshit to the political room?
He's not incorrect in that regard and it does fit in to the discussion to a point. Outsourcing is a huge problem and Pittsburgh has sustained the recession because of all the up and coming green technology and the medical industry. Other commodities play a factor as well. Either way if anyone actually took the time to take the colored glasses off I'm sure most would really enjoy the city of Pittsburgh. Most of my friends that are Browns diehards say they are "ashamed to admit" that they really like Pittsburgh after giving it a chance. Do I care if anyone here does? No but seeing as the city is so close you're really doing yourself a disservice but not checking it out in greater detail. A good friend of mine came in to town from Jacksonville. He was born and raised in Strongsville, Ohio. We went down town with my sister and mom. My gf was also with us and we walked for Autism. (My sister is a grad student at Duquense preparing to be a teacher in special education.) Anyway Jason was wearing his Browns hat and a pair of Browns custom Oakley's. He got harassed but it was friendly and we actually ran in to a few Cleveland imports that weren't flying the colors that day.
Either way too each their own.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Simply this.
One cannot be both a heterosexual AND love the feeling of a mans dick in his butt.
"You've got to serve somebody" -Bob Dylan
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Simply this.
One cannot be both a heterosexual AND love the feeling of a mans dick in his butt.
"You've got to serve somebody" -Bob Dylan
WSS
Simply this.
One cannot be both a heterosexual AND love the feeling of a mans dick in his butt.
"You've got to serve somebody" -Bob Dylan
WSS
Oh shit.....tears in my eyes dude
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How about keeping your political bullshit to the political room?
He's not incorrect in that regard and it does fit in to the discussion to a point. Outsourcing is a huge problem and Pittsburgh has sustained the recession because of all the up and coming green technology and the medical industry. Other commodities play a factor as well. Either way if anyone actually took the time to take the colored glasses off I'm sure most would really enjoy the city of Pittsburgh. Most of my friends that are Browns diehards say they are "ashamed to admit" that they really like Pittsburgh after giving it a chance. Do I care if anyone here does? No but seeing as the city is so close you're really doing yourself a disservice but not checking it out in greater detail. A good friend of mine came in to town from Jacksonville. He was born and raised in Strongsville, Ohio. We went down town with my sister and mom. My gf was also with us and we walked for Autism. (My sister is a grad student at Duquense preparing to be a teacher in special education.) Anyway Jason was wearing his Browns hat and a pair of Browns custom Oakley's. He got harassed but it was friendly and we actually ran in to a few Cleveland imports that weren't flying the colors that day.
Either way too each their own.
Rorbotron said:
He's not incorrect in that regard and it does fit in to the discussion to a point. Outsourcing is a huge problem and Pittsburgh has sustained the recession because of all the up and coming green technology and the medical industry. Other commodities play a factor as well. Either way if anyone actually took the time to take the colored glasses off I'm sure most would really enjoy the city of Pittsburgh. Most of my friends that are Browns diehards say they are "ashamed to admit" that they really like Pittsburgh after giving it a chance. Do I care if anyone here does? No but seeing as the city is so close you're really doing yourself a disservice but not checking it out in greater detail. A good friend of mine came in to town from Jacksonville. He was born and raised in Strongsville, Ohio. We went down town with my sister and mom. My gf was also with us and we walked for Autism. (My sister is a grad student at Duquense preparing to be a teacher in special education.) Anyway Jason was wearing his Browns hat and a pair of Browns custom Oakley's. He got harassed but it was friendly and we actually ran in to a few Cleveland imports that weren't flying the colors that day.Either way too each their own.
You forget Cleveland is ALSO noted for it's world class health care and medical facilities. Ever hear of the Cleveland Clinic? Anyway, like I said, I've been to Pittsburgh, and don't mind the city. I just couldn't see myself living there.
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Formerly Stone said:
This is a joke right? Since both of these organizations are dedicated to Northeast Ohio?From the Article:
"A London-based industry analyst group says Cleveland is the most livable city in the country and the 26th best on the planet."
Not Cleveland based
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nmills said:
We've been voted #1 to, everybody gets a turnhttp://www.nortech.org/News/NewsDetail.aspx?NewsID=39
http://www.balancedlivingmag.com/2006/July...able%20City.htm
The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.
Rorbotron said:
The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.Go back in the archives and I think you will find that Forbes has probably named Cleveland one of the best cities to live in as well.
Their job is to sell magazines/advertizing and in an effort to do so create a little controversy.
The area that I follow this more closely is in the College rankings. Forbes is in a contest with US New and World Report on that scope. While some schools will routinely rank in the top, like your Princetons, Harvards, Williams, Amhersts, Stanfords, Dukes etc. they will occasionally throw in a curver by ranking say, Centre College in Kentucky as one of the best 10 schools in America. One of them put a couple of the Ivy League schools outside of the Top 100. That ruffled a few feathers.
So, you see, none of these rankings are set in stone...and one year a town or a school is up, and the other it is down. Kind of like a sports team.
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Rorbotron said:
He's not incorrect in that regard and it does fit in to the discussion to a point. Outsourcing is a huge problem and Pittsburgh has sustained the recession because of all the up and coming green technology and the medical industry. Other commodities play a factor as well. Either way if anyone actually took the time to take the colored glasses off I'm sure most would really enjoy the city of Pittsburgh. Most of my friends that are Browns diehards say they are "ashamed to admit" that they really like Pittsburgh after giving it a chance. Do I care if anyone here does? No but seeing as the city is so close you're really doing yourself a disservice but not checking it out in greater detail. A good friend of mine came in to town from Jacksonville. He was born and raised in Strongsville, Ohio. We went down town with my sister and mom. My gf was also with us and we walked for Autism. (My sister is a grad student at Duquense preparing to be a teacher in special education.) Anyway Jason was wearing his Browns hat and a pair of Browns custom Oakley's. He got harassed but it was friendly and we actually ran in to a few Cleveland imports that weren't flying the colors that day.Either way too each their own.
You forget Cleveland is ALSO noted for it's world class health care and medical facilities. Ever hear of the Cleveland Clinic? Anyway, like I said, I've been to Pittsburgh, and don't mind the city. I just couldn't see myself living there.
You forget Cleveland is ALSO noted for it's world class health care and medical facilities. Ever hear of the Cleveland Clinic? Anyway, like I said, I've been to Pittsburgh, and don't mind the city. I just couldn't see myself living there.
The Cleveland Clinic is a great hospital. Although that wasn't what I was talking about. I was talking about medical advancement and medical supplies which Pittsburgh produces. It's one of the major industries in the Pittsburgh area.
And SJ learn how to f.ucking read. You're always thanking people that miss the point. I'm not trying to be a dick to DJ but he did miss the point and you go around blindly thanking people like a dip sh.it.
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Rorbotron said:
The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.Go back in the archives and I think you will find that Forbes has probably named Cleveland one of the best cities to live in as well.
Their job is to sell magazines/advertizing and in an effort to do so create a little controversy.
The area that I follow this more closely is in the College rankings. Forbes is in a contest with US New and World Report on that scope. While some schools will routinely rank in the top, like your Princetons, Harvards, Williams, Amhersts, Stanfords, Dukes etc. they will occasionally throw in a curver by ranking say, Centre College in Kentucky as one of the best 10 schools in America. One of them put a couple of the Ivy League schools outside of the Top 100. That ruffled a few feathers.
So, you see, none of these rankings are set in stone...and one year a town or a school is up, and the other it is down. Kind of like a sports team.
Go back in the archives and I think you will find that Forbes has probably named Cleveland one of the best cities to live in as well.
Their job is to sell magazines/advertizing and in an effort to do so create a little controversy.
The area that I follow this more closely is in the College rankings. Forbes is in a contest with US New and World Report on that scope. While some schools will routinely rank in the top, like your Princetons, Harvards, Williams, Amhersts, Stanfords, Dukes etc. they will occasionally throw in a curver by ranking say, Centre College in Kentucky as one of the best 10 schools in America. One of them put a couple of the Ivy League schools outside of the Top 100. That ruffled a few feathers.
So, you see, none of these rankings are set in stone...and one year a town or a school is up, and the other it is down. Kind of like a sports team.
Depends on the Sports team. The Pens nor the Steelers are going anywhere near that bottom for a good long while and Pittsburgh has been on the up and up for a while. Remember there are flash in the pans and actual trends. Pittsburgh is following the latter.
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Rorbotron said:
The Economist rated Cleveland number one once and it's a reputable source. The others you posted would be like me starting a blog and proclaiming Clinton, Ohio has the sexiest county in the country. Forbes, The Economist and a few others that rate routinely. Pittsburgh has pulled it down twice. Either way it doesn't begin to matter because everyone has their own opinion and if you're happy with where you live that's all that matters.Thank you! Could Cleveland and NE Ohio be better? ABSOLUTELY! Am I happy for the most part? Yes. My biggest gripe is the weather, which is why I said that I wouldn't move to another cold weather city unless it was Chicago or NYC. Cold is cold, and while some cold weather cities get less snow than Cleveland, it's still cold. Speaking of weather, I really can't complain about this past Spring, and so far Summer. It has been absolutely wonderful. Aside from the fact that football is played in the Fall, the end of May through the end of July is my absolute favorite time of year.
Thank you! Could Cleveland and NE Ohio be better? ABSOLUTELY! Am I happy for the most part? Yes. My biggest gripe is the weather, which is why I said that I wouldn't move to another cold weather city unless it was Chicago or NYC. Cold is cold, and while some cold weather cities get less snow than Cleveland, it's still cold. Speaking of weather, I really can't complain about this past Spring, and so far Summer. It has been absolutely wonderful. Aside from the fact that football is played in the Fall, the end of May through the end of July is my absolute favorite time of year.
That said, I would rather spend a winter in Cleveland than a summer in Miami. Which is why Chris Bosh's refusal to come to Cleveland to play with LeBron is a joke. It says this about him: he is not serious about his work. His main interest was in the "party" atmosphere he would be living in. Working hard at his game and winning was clearly not important enough to him, partying was.
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How about keeping your political bullshit to the political room?
He's not incorrect in that regard and it does fit in to the discussion to a point. Outsourcing is a huge problem and Pittsburgh has sustained the recession because of all the up and coming green technology and the medical industry. Other commodities play a factor as well. Either way if anyone actually took the time to take the colored glasses off I'm sure most would really enjoy the city of Pittsburgh. Most of my friends that are Browns diehards say they are "ashamed to admit" that they really like Pittsburgh after giving it a chance. Do I care if anyone here does? No but seeing as the city is so close you're really doing yourself a disservice but not checking it out in greater detail. A good friend of mine came in to town from Jacksonville. He was born and raised in Strongsville, Ohio. We went down town with my sister and mom. My gf was also with us and we walked for Autism. (My sister is a grad student at Duquense preparing to be a teacher in special education.) Anyway Jason was wearing his Browns hat and a pair of Browns custom Oakley's. He got harassed but it was friendly and we actually ran in to a few Cleveland imports that weren't flying the colors that day.
Either way too each their own.
Rorbotron said:
He's not incorrect in that regard and it does fit in to the discussion to a point. Outsourcing is a huge problem and Pittsburgh has sustained the recession because of all the up and coming green technology and the medical industry. Other commodities play a factor as well. Either way if anyone actually took the time to take the colored glasses off I'm sure most would really enjoy the city of Pittsburgh. Most of my friends that are Browns diehards say they are "ashamed to admit" that they really like Pittsburgh after giving it a chance. Do I care if anyone here does? No but seeing as the city is so close you're really doing yourself a disservice but not checking it out in greater detail. A good friend of mine came in to town from Jacksonville. He was born and raised in Strongsville, Ohio. We went down town with my sister and mom. My gf was also with us and we walked for Autism. (My sister is a grad student at Duquense preparing to be a teacher in special education.) Anyway Jason was wearing his Browns hat and a pair of Browns custom Oakley's. He got harassed but it was friendly and we actually ran in to a few Cleveland imports that weren't flying the colors that day.Either way too each their own.
As soon as you get over being "ashamed to admit you like Cleveland" we will do likewise.
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Simply this.
One cannot be both a heterosexual AND love the feeling of a mans dick in his butt.
"You've got to serve somebody" -Bob Dylan
WSS
Simply this.
One cannot be both a heterosexual AND love the feeling of a mans dick in his butt.
"You've got to serve somebody" -Bob Dylan
WSS
How do you explain yourself then, Dude?
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Formerly Stone said:
London, Ohio?London, England
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