Where is Flugel and his weak 40-times?
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Our playcaller fails to be creative maybe partially because mangini makes him stick to a gameplan and a set of personnel and maybe not, but thats what i keep coming up with anyways, and because of this dabs may find it hard to freely add variation and operate like an OC should be able to...we know the jets OC brian shottenslimer complained to tannenbaum quite often about mangini strangulating and modifying his offense gameplans and playbook and even player substitutions and once farve was forced on mangini the coach pushed brian into modifying his playbook to suit farves pocket passer style which turned out to be a disaster and the likely straw that led to mangini being canned, so we know mangini likes to control every aspect of the game which also leads us to why mangini most likely brought a newbie OC to cleveland knowing full well we needed a pro OC...CONTROL! but along with that full control comes full blame and he doesnt want any part of that and has done a good job of lining daboll up for slaughter...
Thanks Gips, really interesting view.
On the above, I see how this could be true - my question is, surely Mike Homgren can see this if it is the case - where do you think he is at head wise at this point? I am assuming his experience and closeness to the situation will give him a very clear idea of whether our playcalling approach is being strangulated - he doesn't strike me as the kind to put up with that - I bet his HC past has his teeth ground to nothing from the last two games.
Thanks Gips, really interesting view.
On the above, I see how this could be true - my question is, surely Mike Homgren can see this if it is the case - where do you think he is at head wise at this point? I am assuming his experience and closeness to the situation will give him a very clear idea of whether our playcalling approach is being strangulated - he doesn't strike me as the kind to put up with that - I bet his HC past has his teeth ground to nothing from the last two games.
given the talent level and the mistakes Im sure he is not that angry with Mangini as we here are making out to be. I know im not.
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We can fix up the penalties and the fumbles. Beyond that only talent can help us.
If so, will James Davis & Carlton Mitchell suffice, for at least now?
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I think our base running package should be 4 wide, spread the defense out force them to drop into coverage instead of stacking the box, then let the o-line do what they do best.
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Back in the day, a character here by the name of Tom Flugel use to post fudged 40-times to support his love for certain prospects. I am getting the feeling that we have returned to such laziness in doing our homework in uncovering just what exactly is wrong with our current Cleveland Browns.
Is it the WR's, such as Bernie Kosar suggest?
Is Josh Cribbs not giving us the spark we need on Special Teams ... and is he washed up in that department as Zombo suggests?
Is the rightside of our OL the major problem with the run game, or are Safeties stacking the line with no fear of our passing game?
Injuries?
QB carosel?
No legit deep threat?
Play Calling and/or coaching in general?
Personnel?
Just focusing on the Offensive side of the ball alone, WTF do we have to work with and what can be fixed by Sunday?
R.I.P. Flugel ...
Back in the day, a character here by the name of Tom Flugel use to post fudged 40-times to support his love for certain prospects. I am getting the feeling that we have returned to such laziness in doing our homework in uncovering just what exactly is wrong with our current Cleveland Browns.
Is it the WR's, such as Bernie Kosar suggest?
Is Josh Cribbs not giving us the spark we need on Special Teams ... and is he washed up in that department as Zombo suggests?
Is the rightside of our OL the major problem with the run game, or are Safeties stacking the line with no fear of our passing game?
Injuries?
QB carosel?
No legit deep threat?
Play Calling and/or coaching in general?
Personnel?
Just focusing on the Offensive side of the ball alone, WTF do we have to work with and what can be fixed by Sunday?
R.I.P. Flugel ...
Are you suggesting that Flugel has gone on to that great gridiron in the sky?
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We can fix up the penalties and the fumbles. Beyond that only talent can help us.
If so, will James Davis & Carlton Mitchell suffice, for at least now?
If so, will James Davis & Carlton Mitchell suffice, for at least now?
Carlton Mitchell has the height to make a good target, hopefully he has the hands and the legs too ....
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@josephsuxdick said:
Ah, finally, recognition from even his homies that Flugel is nothing but a full of crap fudger who'd stoop to downright lying to make his weak arguments. Gee Skip, what took you so long?But why be surprised? Flugel is the same coward who ran away from the steroids thing when I showed him the ESPN documentary about the '64 Chargers being the REAL pioneers of team-wide steroid abuse. He's the same chicken who ducked and covered when I called him out for ignoring the mysteriously early deaths from heart attacks of Giants, Saints or Broncos players. I have to say, though, making Flugie my bitch did provide a little entertainment.
Making up fake 40 times! Ha ha ha! Almost as funny as the revenge beatdown the Steelers are gonna lay down on the Brownies in a few weeks.
Actually I think thou dost protest too much. In fact, I think you ARE Flugel. That you are actually Flugel's evil alter ego and that it is just an internal struggle within your own soul that is causing you all this consternation. Here's proof, you and Flugel side by side:
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Our playcaller fails to be creative maybe partially because mangini makes him stick to a gameplan and a set of personnel and maybe not, but thats what i keep coming up with anyways, and because of this dabs may find it hard to freely add variation and operate like an OC should be able to...we know the jets OC brian shottenslimer complained to tannenbaum quite often about mangini strangulating and modifying his offense gameplans and playbook and even player substitutions and once farve was forced on mangini the coach pushed brian into modifying his playbook to suit farves pocket passer style which turned out to be a disaster and the likely straw that led to mangini being canned, so we know mangini likes to control every aspect of the game which also leads us to why mangini most likely brought a newbie OC to cleveland knowing full well we needed a pro OC...CONTROL! but along with that full control comes full blame and he doesnt want any part of that and has done a good job of lining daboll up for slaughter...
Thanks Gips, really interesting view.
On the above, I see how this could be true - my question is, surely Mike Homgren can see this if it is the case - where do you think he is at head wise at this point? I am assuming his experience and closeness to the situation will give him a very clear idea of whether our playcalling approach is being strangulated - he doesn't strike me as the kind to put up with that - I bet his HC past has his teeth ground to nothing from the last two games.
Thanks Gips, really interesting view.
On the above, I see how this could be true - my question is, surely Mike Homgren can see this if it is the case - where do you think he is at head wise at this point? I am assuming his experience and closeness to the situation will give him a very clear idea of whether our playcalling approach is being strangulated - he doesn't strike me as the kind to put up with that - I bet his HC past has his teeth ground to nothing from the last two games.
I don't really know what Mangini can do. He is dealing with the cards that were dealt him. Until he can mold these guys into his perfect mold this team will still struggle due to the dearth of talent. While I am a firm believer that a coach can make mediocre talent rise above its level, we still are not there yet with this coach, team or talent.
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Zombo said:
Flugels is dead???That explains why he never calls anymore...
Zombo
Well, here is hoping that he pulls a Mark Twain and comes in and tells us that reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.
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Zombo said:
Flugels is dead???That explains why he never calls anymore...
Zombo
Well, here is hoping that he pulls a Mark Twain and comes in and tells us that reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.
Well, here is hoping that he pulls a Mark Twain and comes in and tells us that reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.
I concur....
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Carlton Mitchell has the height to make a good target, hopefully he has the hands and the legs too ....
Carlton is one of the BRownsBOard friends on facebook, I think I'll go on there and jack him up for the game.
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Zombo said:
Flugels is dead???That explains why he never calls anymore...
Zombo
I don't think he is dead.
I asked him "what's up" in a post awhile back, I think he is just in the middle of replying.
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