Colt should start the rest of the season
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This thread should have been started before yesterday. The way the rookie played last week it would be a horrible decision to sit him ofr any reason, except injury or when they play the Ravens
.I ain't saying he is the second coming of Otto Graham, or even Bernie Kosar, but the kid deserves to play until he proves otherwise.
This thread should have been started before yesterday. The way the rookie played last week it would be a horrible decision to sit him ofr any reason, except injury or when they play the Ravens
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I ain't saying he is the second coming of Otto Graham, or even Bernie Kosar, but the kid deserves to play until he proves otherwise.
You're correct but I think that he's showing far more than could be expected and has answered his critics...so far. No need to name a starter right now. Just let him get through this next week. When you look at the reaction Colt got from his teammates and from Mangini and Daboll after he scored that TD yesterday, he's the starter. I don't care what they say. They're giddy and they don't want to let it out.
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And ZERO INT's. You manage the game while your WINNING. 230 yards RUSHING. Wow, dumbest post of the week award. What a dumb shit.
p.s. Oh and ironically, the Pats won the SUPERBOWL with Tom Brady having 16 completions and 145 yards passing, and he won the MVP. Last time I checked, there are 4 quarters in football, numb nuts.
and this thread was started sometime around half time
when i responded to it i was thinking the same thing.....there is still a lot of time left
up to that point colt hadnt done a whole lot and had only thrown the ball 16 times
i know you guys are loving colt and for good reason, but considering he is only starting due to injuries, i wouldnt say that he is the best QB on the team
whats wrong with letting him sit and learn when jake and seneca are healthy?
whats wrong with letting him sit and learn when jake and seneca are healthy?
Because by all objective measures, McCoy gives this team the greater chance of winning, right here, right now. And that is what it is all about, Hokey Pokey.
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Lets trade Colt and get us some draft picks!!!! Can we get two 7th round pick for him? That would be great! His receivers make him look good, we need to trade him now and then draft a QB next year. May be we can trade Colt and Hillis for #1 pick.
NFL experts are saying Colt is a fluke and should be traded for draft picks.
p.s. For those who think that was dumb, in 2007 I would've been praised as the smartest guy on this board for talking like that.
You still here? Go away freak.
You still here? Go away freak.
You're wrong! Colt just appears to be good QB, because no one has any film on him yet. 2-3 games and everyone will figure him out, then what? Trade him now and draft proven winner like Nate Montana next year. He's from Notr Dam, so you know he's good. I think we can get 4th for Colt.
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I retract my statement about CantonLegend. Dumbest post of the month right here.
Hmmm....maybe on a single post, but CantonLegend is still the dumbest poster of the month because of the volume of dumb posts he makes.
Hmmm....maybe on a single post, but CantonLegend is still the dumbest poster of the month because of the volume of dumb posts he makes.
aww.....and i thought you had grown up
im sorry you're not exactly capable of understanding simple football but you need to use your words to express your emotions instead of just throwing up on the keyboard and hitting enter with your response
i'll help you to comprehend some simple football complexities that way when you talk, it doesnt sound like someone sh*tting their pants
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What it boils down to is Colt McCoy has played in three games. Pittsburgh, New Orleans and New England. Arguably three of the top 5 teams in the league. He is 2-1. He has kept the team's drives alive, and he has shown to be verbal and incredible in the huddle and on the line. We haven't seen that with a "new" QB, that we've tried to put in the system. What is wrong with keeping McCoy in the system, and letting Jake be paid to TEACH him how to handle the situations, keep his chin up when he's done - etc. Are we afraid that we might actually just find our franchise Quarterback.
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and i agree.......if colt truely is the best QB on the team then he should play
its just my opinion that jake and/or seneca give the browns a better chance to win
his accuracy is a product of the play calling but his maturity is something that is somewhat surprising
seneca is more athletic and jake is probably a smarter QB
and like i said before, colt isnt really the reason that they score 30 points a game.......peyton hillis, the defense, and the offensive line have a lot more to do with it than colt mccoy
wrong on every level.
the browns have been in every game this year but could never get over the top with the exception of the bengals game. neither jake or seneca was making those plays that sustained the drives to give the browns the W. the first 4 losses of the season are indicative of this.
the browns aren't only winning with colt mccoy. they are winning decisively. it is clear that he has emerged as the new leader of the browns. the way that he kept those drives alive yesterday is testament that he gives the browns a chance to win every single game that they play for the rest of the season.
you need to watch game film of delhomme from TB and ATL games this year before saying he IS a smart QB. he WAS a smart qb. seneca is exactly what we need as a back-up but from watching every game this year, it is clear that he can't carry the team on his back in the same way that colt can.
wrong on every level.
the browns have been in every game this year but could never get over the top with the exception of the bengals game. neither jake or seneca was making those plays that sustained the drives to give the browns the W. the first 4 losses of the season are indicative of this.
the browns aren't only winning with colt mccoy. they are winning decisively. it is clear that he has emerged as the new leader of the browns. the way that he kept those drives alive yesterday is testament that he gives the browns a chance to win every single game that they play for the rest of the season.
you need to watch game film of delhomme from TB and ATL games this year before saying he IS a smart QB. he WAS a smart qb. seneca is exactly what we need as a back-up but from watching every game this year, it is clear that he can't carry the team on his back in the same way that colt can.
i was wrong that colt should start if he truely is the best QB on the team?....am i wrong about that too?
the browns were in every game this season against some tough competition......except colts first start against the pittsburgh steelers which is the browns biggest rival......the browns are a good team that has played the toughest schedule in the league so far this season.....its unfortunate because the record is not indicative of how good they are
the browns also traded jerome harrison for mike bell.....maybe mike bell is the reason they have won so many games. maybe stuckey and robiskie playing more is the reason. maybe starting the backup RT due to injury is the reason. maybe playing rubin over rogers was the reason for so much success
maybe its not?
there are a lot of things that have changed for the browns this season and pointing to colt as the reason is ignoring the big picture. fwiw the browns have only won 3 games so far this season and you cant honestly say that colt is the reason 2 of those wins
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What it boils down to is Colt McCoy has played in three games. Pittsburgh, New Orleans and New England. Arguably three of the top 5 teams in the league. He is 2-1. He has kept the team's drives alive, and he has shown to be verbal and incredible in the huddle and on the line. We haven't seen that with a "new" QB, that we've tried to put in the system. What is wrong with keeping McCoy in the system, and letting Jake be paid to TEACH him how to handle the situations, keep his chin up when he's done - etc. Are we afraid that we might actually just find our franchise Quarterback.
What it boils down to is Colt McCoy has played in three games. Pittsburgh, New Orleans and New England. Arguably three of the top 5 teams in the league. He is 2-1. He has kept the team's drives alive, and he has shown to be verbal and incredible in the huddle and on the line. We haven't seen that with a "new" QB, that we've tried to put in the system. What is wrong with keeping McCoy in the system, and letting Jake be paid to TEACH him how to handle the situations, keep his chin up when he's done - etc. Are we afraid that we might actually just find our franchise Quarterback.
ive just seen this happen too many times for cleveland
the fans jump on a QBs bandwagon.....get too excited about a young kid then expect him to take over the world
when he doesnt meet those expectations hes thrown under the bus and the cycle gets repeated
colt is a pretty solid QB for a rookie but the style of football that the browns are playing is not a style that is going to continue to win games this season. they need a veteran pressence until colt is actually ready......throwing him into the fire and making excuses for him if he screws up isnt the way to go about it
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What it boils down to is Colt McCoy has played in three games. Pittsburgh, New Orleans and New England. Arguably three of the top 5 teams in the league. He is 2-1. He has kept the team's drives alive, and he has shown to be verbal and incredible in the huddle and on the line. We haven't seen that with a "new" QB, that we've tried to put in the system. What is wrong with keeping McCoy in the system, and letting Jake be paid to TEACH him how to handle the situations, keep his chin up when he's done - etc. Are we afraid that we might actually just find our franchise Quarterback.
ive just seen this happen too many times for cleveland
the fans jump on a QBs bandwagon.....get too excited about a young kid then expect him to take over the world
when he doesnt meet those expectations hes thrown under the bus and the cycle gets repeated
colt is a pretty solid QB for a rookie but the style of football that the browns are playing is not a style that is going to continue to win games this season. they need a veteran pressence until colt is actually ready......throwing him into the fire and making excuses for him if he screws up isnt the way to go about it
ive just seen this happen too many times for cleveland
the fans jump on a QBs bandwagon.....get too excited about a young kid then expect him to take over the world
when he doesnt meet those expectations hes thrown under the bus and the cycle gets repeated
colt is a pretty solid QB for a rookie but the style of football that the browns are playing is not a style that is going to continue to win games this season. they need a veteran pressence until colt is actually ready......throwing him into the fire and making excuses for him if he screws up isnt the way to go about it
So you're saying he doesn't have enough presence to carry this team through a tough stretch? He got them out of bad plays and into good ones yesterday. He did an excellent job with sight adjustments and reads against a defense notorious for confusing rookies. He won't have a tougher stretch than the four weeks he's about to have QB'd this team. He's as mentally tough as they come. I can promise you that. As a matter of fact, you can ask any Oklahoma fan. He will rip the opponent's heart out and show it to them. He's THAT kind of a gamer.
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ive just seen this happen too many times for cleveland
the fans jump on a QBs bandwagon.....get too excited about a young kid then expect him to take over the world
when he doesnt meet those expectations hes thrown under the bus and the cycle gets repeated
colt is a pretty solid QB for a rookie but the style of football that the browns are playing is not a style that is going to continue to win games this season. they need a veteran pressence until colt is actually ready......throwing him into the fire and making excuses for him if he screws up isnt the way to go about it
So you're saying he doesn't have enough presence to carry this team through a tough stretch? He got them out of bad plays and into good ones yesterday. He did an excellent job with sight adjustments and reads against a defense notorious for confusing rookies. He won't have a tougher stretch than the four weeks he's about to have QB'd this team. He's as mentally tough as they come. I can promise you that. As a matter of fact, you can ask any Oklahoma fan. He will rip the opponent's heart out and show it to them. He's THAT kind of a gamer.
So you're saying he doesn't have enough presence to carry this team through a tough stretch? He got them out of bad plays and into good ones yesterday. He did an excellent job with sight adjustments and reads against a defense notorious for confusing rookies. He won't have a tougher stretch than the four weeks he's about to have QB'd this team. He's as mentally tough as they come. I can promise you that. As a matter of fact, you can ask any Oklahoma fan. He will rip the opponent's heart out and show it to them. He's THAT kind of a gamer.
oklahoma is a little different than the pittsburgh steelers or baltimore ravens
texas was a good team in college......but the browns are not yet as dominant in the pros as texas was in college
the comparison is really not fair
and where did all these texas browns fans come from? dont you guys have 2 teams of your own?
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So you're saying he doesn't have enough presence to carry this team through a tough stretch? He got them out of bad plays and into good ones yesterday. He did an excellent job with sight adjustments and reads against a defense notorious for confusing rookies. He won't have a tougher stretch than the four weeks he's about to have QB'd this team. He's as mentally tough as they come. I can promise you that. As a matter of fact, you can ask any Oklahoma fan. He will rip the opponent's heart out and show it to them. He's THAT kind of a gamer.
oklahoma is a little different than the pittsburgh steelers or baltimore ravens
texas was a good team in college......but the browns are not yet as dominant in the pros as texas was in college
the comparison is really not fair
and where did all these texas browns fans come from? dont you guys have 2 teams of your own?
and where did all these texas browns fans come from? dont you guys have 2 teams of your own?
Aren't you a New Orleans fan from north east Ohio? Doesn't Ohio have 2 teams of their own? Pretty dumb point to make. there mr. legendary
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and where did all these texas browns fans come from? dont you guys have 2 teams of your own?
Aren't you a New Orleans fan from north east Ohio? Doesn't Ohio have 2 teams of their own? Pretty dumb point to make. there mr. legendary
Aren't you a New Orleans fan from north east Ohio? Doesn't Ohio have 2 teams of their own? Pretty dumb point to make. there mr. legendary
yea and ive been a saints fan for nearly my entire life
but all these texas browns fans are popping up just this year.....is it really just because of colt mccoy?
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So you're saying he doesn't have enough presence to carry this team through a tough stretch? He got them out of bad plays and into good ones yesterday. He did an excellent job with sight adjustments and reads against a defense notorious for confusing rookies. He won't have a tougher stretch than the four weeks he's about to have QB'd this team. He's as mentally tough as they come. I can promise you that. As a matter of fact, you can ask any Oklahoma fan. He will rip the opponent's heart out and show it to them. He's THAT kind of a gamer.
oklahoma is a little different than the pittsburgh steelers or baltimore ravens
texas was a good team in college......but the browns are not yet as dominant in the pros as texas was in college
the comparison is really not fair
and where did all these texas browns fans come from? dont you guys have 2 teams of your own?
oklahoma is a little different than the pittsburgh steelers or baltimore ravens
texas was a good team in college......but the browns are not yet as dominant in the pros as texas was in college
the comparison is really not fair
It's not fair because he's gone 2-1 against BETTER competition than he faced in college and he doesn't even have a full complement of good talent around him. Just show me where he looks overwhelmed or fazed.
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oklahoma is a little different than the pittsburgh steelers or baltimore ravens
texas was a good team in college......but the browns are not yet as dominant in the pros as texas was in college
the comparison is really not fair
It's not fair because he's gone 2-1 against BETTER competition than he faced in college and he doesn't even have a full complement of good talent around him. Just show me where he looks overwhelmed or fazed.
It's not fair because he's gone 2-1 against BETTER competition than he faced in college and he doesn't even have a full complement of good talent around him. Just show me where he looks overwhelmed or fazed.
why dont you show me where he led the browns to anything? ive already complimented him and his maturity in the NFL so far. if you cant see my argument then you arent looking very hard
the 2 wins with him as QB are not because he was playing QB but just like the past 40 years, browns fans dont understand that i guess....and here i thought cleveland was starting to turn things around
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It's not fair because he's gone 2-1 against BETTER competition than he faced in college and he doesn't even have a full complement of good talent around him. Just show me where he looks overwhelmed or fazed.
why dont you show me where he led the browns to anything? ive already complimented him and his maturity in the NFL so far. if you cant see my argument then you arent looking very hard
the 2 wins with him as QB are not because he was playing QB but just like the past 40 years, browns fans dont understand that i guess....and here i thought cleveland was starting to turn things around
why dont you show me where he led the browns to anything? ive already complimented him and his maturity in the NFL so far. if you cant see my argument then you arent looking very hard
the 2 wins with him as QB are not because he was playing QB but just like the past 40 years, browns fans dont understand that i guess....and here i thought cleveland was starting to turn things around
His throw to Watson to set up the first PH TD, his throw to PH on 3rd down, and the 3 3rd down completions he had added on to those plays were not QB like plays that did something for the last game that we won. Right?
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Is Colt the best quarterback on the team? Maybe not, but he is the healthiest! He also is the only one on the roster that could be a franchise quarterback for years to come. I say we let the season play out with Colt at the reins and see how it goes. We need to find out if this is our QB of the future before the next draft. I know everyone is getting excited with the last 2 wins but I just don’t see us going 10-6 and making the playoffs. I think the first 2 games with our “better quarterbacks” will come back to bite us in the ass! So let's see what the kids got!.
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why dont you show me where he led the browns to anything? ive already complimented him and his maturity in the NFL so far. if you cant see my argument then you arent looking very hard
the 2 wins with him as QB are not because he was playing QB but just like the past 40 years, browns fans dont understand that i guess....and here i thought cleveland was starting to turn things around
His throw to Watson to set up the first PH TD, his throw to PH on 3rd down, and the 3 3rd down completions he had added on to those plays were not QB like plays that did something for the last game that we won. Right?
His throw to Watson to set up the first PH TD, his throw to PH on 3rd down, and the 3 3rd down completions he had added on to those plays were not QB like plays that did something for the last game that we won. Right?
you are crediting colt for peyton hillis' success? WHAT?
im sorry but its definitly the other way around
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In my opinion its people such as yourself that jump all over the topic of skin color when its brought up that allows racism to even continue being an issue in this country. Just let it go man
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Right. The goof that initiated it isn't at fault. It's my fault. In my opinion, it's people such as yourself who ignores stuff, and thinks
the stuff, therefore, never happened. You must be in college... discrimination was never the issue at all.
Shep and I fuss at each other once in a while. Butt out, buttinski.
On May 4th, I hope they have a giant anti-war rally in your living room.
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In my opinion its people such as yourself that jump all over the topic of skin color when its brought up that allows racism to even continue being an issue in this country. Just let it go man
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Right. The goof that initiated it isn't at fault. It's my fault. In my opinion, it's people such as yourself who ignores stuff, and thinks
the stuff, therefore, never happened. You must be in college... discrimination was never the issue at all.
Shep and I fuss at each other once in a while. Butt out, buttinski.
On May 4th, I hope they have a giant anti-war rally in your living room.
In my opinion its people such as yourself that jump all over the topic of skin color when its brought up that allows racism to even continue being an issue in this country. Just let it go man
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Right. The goof that initiated it isn't at fault. It's my fault. In my opinion, it's people such as yourself who ignores stuff, and thinks
the stuff, therefore, never happened. You must be in college... discrimination was never the issue at all.
Shep and I fuss at each other once in a while. Butt out, buttinski.
On May 4th, I hope they have a giant anti-war rally in your living room.
lol, i don't even wanna touch this one... He mentioned some guys were white and you flipped out, YOU are the racist. Is "buttinski" supposed to be offensive or insulting in some way?
Every post I read by you gets progressivley worse and this one is no exception. Is there an ignore feature on this board?Can we just get back on the topic of Colt? If you want to shit talk me or argue, I'm pretty sure you can PM me or something, I'm sure it would be an amusing read for me so I welcome you to do so.
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His throw to Watson to set up the first PH TD, his throw to PH on 3rd down, and the 3 3rd down completions he had added on to those plays were not QB like plays that did something for the last game that we won. Right?
you are crediting colt for peyton hillis' success? WHAT?
im sorry but its definitly the other way around
you are crediting colt for peyton hillis' success? WHAT?
im sorry but its definitly the other way around
I thought I emphasized, Colt's 5 3rd down completions. Colt's 30 yard throw to Evan Moore that set up Hillis. And Colt's throw, while on the run, to Peyton - that set up additional points.
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His throw to Watson to set up the first PH TD, his throw to PH on 3rd down, and the 3 3rd down completions he had added on to those plays were not QB like plays that did something for the last game that we won. Right?
you are crediting colt for peyton hillis' success? WHAT?
im sorry but its definitly the other way around
you are crediting colt for peyton hillis' success? WHAT?
im sorry but its definitly the other way around
Not sure what game you were watching? Yes Hillis had a great game, but don't you think some of that is because the Pats had to respect our passing game a little bit? Passing opens up the running game and the running game opens up the passing game. I think Colt did what he needed to do to help win the game. He is not lighting it up in the passing game but who would with the recievers we have? He has done enough to continue to be the starter. Just maybe its the Browns turn to find that diamond in the rough QB!
Does this sound familiar?...............
2004 season
Roethlisberger did not immediately step in as the starting quarterback for the Steelers. He was the No. 3 QB behind Tommy Maddox and Charlie Batch. When Batch was injured in the preseason, however, Roethlisberger moved up to no. 2. Maddox started, and won, the season opener against the Raiders and started versus the Ravens. But after an ineffective outing and third-quarter injury to Maddox, Roethlisberger stepped in for his first NFL action. Despite spurring a mild comeback, the Steelers lost the game. Maddox's injury changed the Steelers' original plan for Roethlisberger, which was for him to sit on the bench or play sparingly during the first season or two in order to learn the team's system. Instead, he started the third game of the season.
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