Dan Pompei Says Mangini Will Get Axed
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What we Browns fans are seeing is coaching in the NFL at its best. Fujita and Robaire go down (argueably the Browns to best defensive players) but Mangini and the CS make the adjustments and we still ball out on the darkside. The offense goes thru 3 QB's, 6 changes at right tackle,1 damn running back.. loses Cribbs BUT they manage to adjust,re-adjust, and re re adjust..no crying or woe is me complaining from the CS..I know the "intelligent" Brown fans appreciate what there witnessing from Coach Mangini and his staff..and if you aren't.. you should...SERIOUSLY...GO BROWNS
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There are to many people whos ego wont let them admit they were wrong in wanting him out so soon. I can honestly say I was not a Mangini fan and I am glad to say I was wrong. Theres still room for improvement obviously. But I dunno how you can fire him with how the teams progressing.
There are to many people whos ego wont let them admit they were wrong in wanting him out so soon. I can honestly say I was not a Mangini fan and I am glad to say I was wrong. Theres still room for improvement obviously. But I dunno how you can fire him with how the teams progressing.
Good post Joe... had really mixed emotions about last year's winning streak... I hated that any easy schedule saved Mangini's job... and I continue to be frustrated by his lack of in game adjustments... but the team is playing hard for him, and we're progressing! As a Browns fan that's a real start.
I just wish we had an better offensive scheme.
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There are to many people whos ego wont let them admit they were wrong in wanting him out so soon. I can honestly say I was not a Mangini fan and I am glad to say I was wrong. Theres still room for improvement obviously. But I dunno how you can fire him with how the teams progressing.
Good post Joe... had really mixed emotions about last year's winning streak... I hated that any easy schedule saved Mangini's job... and I continue to be frustrated by his lack of in game adjustments... but the team is playing hard for him, and we're progressing! As a Browns fan that's a real start.
I just wish we had an better offensive scheme.
Good post Joe... had really mixed emotions about last year's winning streak... I hated that any easy schedule saved Mangini's job... and I continue to be frustrated by his lack of in game adjustments... but the team is playing hard for him, and we're progressing! As a Browns fan that's a real start.
I just wish we had an better offensive scheme.
And the FACT the Browns now have the NFL's toughest schedule tells you something about Mangini and his staff with out mentioning the 150 point differential improvement from 09..The FACT this team has been decimated by injuries(too many to list) and Mangini and staff have made all the personal adjustments and still have won 4 out of 6 games..Its called excellent coaching
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We have all seen MANY on this board who were "anti-Mangini" do a turn around & acknowledge his accomplishments of this season. I find it almost unbelievable that anyone could actually FAIL to see the vast improvement in this team. Given strength of schedule, injuries, talent level, & inexperience at some positions, I can hardly BELIEVE what he has accomplished in light of all that & I have always been a Mangini backer. Just goes to prove the old adage, "When the going gets tough, the tough get going".
We've got our Coach, let's stick with him.
Mike
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There are to many people whos ego wont let them admit they were wrong in wanting him out so soon. I can honestly say I was not a Mangini fan and I am glad to say I was wrong. Theres still room for improvement obviously. But I dunno how you can fire him with how the teams progressing.
Good post Joe... had really mixed emotions about last year's winning streak... I hated that any easy schedule saved Mangini's job... and I continue to be frustrated by his lack of in game adjustments... but the team is playing hard for him, and we're progressing! As a Browns fan that's a real start.
I just wish we had an better offensive scheme.
Good post Joe... had really mixed emotions about last year's winning streak... I hated that any easy schedule saved Mangini's job... and I continue to be frustrated by his lack of in game adjustments... but the team is playing hard for him, and we're progressing! As a Browns fan that's a real start.
I just wish we had an better offensive scheme.
I'm sort of Switzerland on the coaching thing, or maybe just cloudy and undecided... but I think we need to rethink the offense, not just add a WR.
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It was linked on OBR, thought it was worth bitching about. My personal opinion is this, since Choco so kindly asked for it: You can't argue that the team is more competitive. If they close strong, you can definitely make a case that Mangini be retained.
However, Holmgren is the top of the food chain and we all know he doesn't like Daboll's offense or playcalling and that's an issue that isn't simply going to evaporate. Can Mangini and Holmgren find peace with Holmgren's offense and Mangini's defense? Maybe. Or maybe Holmgren falls on his sword.
And my opinion on Haden has always been that he's very good. I didn't like the pick, which is different. I would have rather traded down a little, drafted Dez Bryant, and found a corner a little later. How do I feel now? I think the Browns are probably lucky I'm not the GM, because we have Haden, he's getting beastly, and we can draft our #1 WR next year. If McCoy is all that next year and Hardesty makes some noise? Pretty amazing draft for Heckert and one I admittedly wasn't all that stoked over.
Choco... have I been saying shitty things to you? Do you not feel a little weird being an ass to me when I never say anything remotely nasty to you? I would, but that's me.
However, Holmgren is the top of the food chain and we all know he doesn't like Daboll's offense or playcalling ...
We do? How do we know that?
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The coaching change talk is just plain goofy. Look at the sentiment on this Board, about 10-1 to keep Mangini. i talk with Browns fans everyday at work, lunch, evenings, and the ratio is about the same. The only goofballs keeping this talk alive is the national media and, locally, WKNR and some writers at the PD. Who do they represent? What is their agenda? To have a colorful, media friendly HC?
Holmgrem? Gruden? Ryan?
Screw KNR and Mary Kay.
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It doesn't matter what any of us believe.
There is a chance mangini will be fired. You have to look at holmgren. He took over the browns football operation to turn this around. How many times do guys get fired because he is not his guy? Mangini isn't his guy.
It will all come down to if holmgren can live with the difference in football ideals.
It doesn't matter what any of us believe.
There is a chance mangini will be fired. You have to look at holmgren. He took over the browns football operation to turn this around. How many times do guys get fired because he is not his guy? Mangini isn't his guy.
It will all come down to if holmgren can live with the difference in football ideals.
Well....if Holmgren can't adjust, then he can leave. I would rather see Mangini stay and finish the job, then have Holmgren take over as HC.....but that's just me.
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It doesn't matter what any of us believe.
There is a chance mangini will be fired. You have to look at holmgren. He took over the browns football operation to turn this around. How many times do guys get fired because he is not his guy? Mangini isn't his guy.
It will all come down to if holmgren can live with the difference in football ideals.
Well....if Holmgren can't adjust, then he can leave. I would rather see Mangini stay and finish the job, then have Holmgren take over as HC.....but that's just me.
Well....if Holmgren can't adjust, then he can leave. I would rather see Mangini stay and finish the job, then have Holmgren take over as HC.....but that's just me.
For the sake of honesty, I'll feel that way about Mangini when he has some playoff wins under his belt... and maybe a Super Bowl victory. Until then, I'll rank both Holmgren and Chuckie above him as NFL coaches.
I feel good about the progress. I think we're really, really light in the passing game, especially downfield and to WRs. It's a passing league and a QB league and we need to catch up. I don't believe in Daboll on offense as much as I do Mangini on defense.
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Holmgren and my main love gruden are light years above mangini. (Right now)
I don't undestand the faith people have in a un proven guy.. mangini right now reminds me of wayne fontes. Maybe doing just enough to save his job. If he can get to the play offs I will put him with wade philips.
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Holmgren and my main love gruden are light years above mangini. (Right now)
I don't undestand the faith people have in a un proven guy.. mangini right now reminds me of wayne fontes. Maybe doing just enough to save his job. If he can get to the play offs I will put him with wade philips.
Holmgren and my main love gruden are light years above mangini. (Right now)
I don't undestand the faith people have in a un proven guy.. mangini right now reminds me of wayne fontes. Maybe doing just enough to save his job. If he can get to the play offs I will put him with wade philips.
He put pieces in play for the Jets to be contenders in the future - which Ryan is working with right now. He has brought depth and fight to this Browns team that we haven't seen since our return. Unproven? That's ridiculous. He has proven a lot.
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As much as I like where EM has our team headed, I am absolutely beyond frustrated that he continues to start Delhome, over Wallace while Colt heals. It is a pathetic decision and one that reeks of "my guy".........................Every time Delhome drops back, throws a wild side arm pass to a guy who's double covered and then looks over to the bench with that blank, confused look, I lose a lot more respect for EM.
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As much as I like where EM has our team headed, I am absolutely beyond frustrated that he continues to start Delhome, over Wallace while Colt heals. It is a pathetic decision and one that reeks of "my guy".........................Every time Delhome drops back, throws a wild side arm pass to a guy who's double covered and then looks over to the bench with that blank, confused look, I lose a lot more respect for EM.
As much as I like where EM has our team headed, I am absolutely beyond frustrated that he continues to start Delhome, over Wallace while Colt heals. It is a pathetic decision and one that reeks of "my guy".........................Every time Delhome drops back, throws a wild side arm pass to a guy who's double covered and then looks over to the bench with that blank, confused look, I lose a lot more respect for EM.
I 100% agree with you there, I'm getting tired of seeing Delhomme stink it up every week.
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As much as I like where EM has our team headed, I am absolutely beyond frustrated that he continues to start Delhome, over Wallace while Colt heals. It is a pathetic decision and one that reeks of "my guy".........................Every time Delhome drops back, throws a wild side arm pass to a guy who's double covered and then looks over to the bench with that blank, confused look, I lose a lot more respect for EM.
I 100% agree with you there, I'm getting tired of seeing Delhomme stink it up every week.
I 100% agree with you there, I'm getting tired of seeing Delhomme stink it up every week.
well I agree but our o-line is not helping him out any, and our WRs can't get open.. Daboll's playcalling hasn't helped either...
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I 100% agree with you there, I'm getting tired of seeing Delhomme stink it up every week.
well I agree but our o-line is not helping him out any, and our WRs can't get open.. Daboll's playcalling hasn't helped either...
well I agree but our o-line is not helping him out any, and our WRs can't get open.. Daboll's playcalling hasn't helped either...
I see your point but how did McCoy have pretty good success with the same receiving corp and Delhomme, who is the vet, can't seem to get it to any of our receivers?
I know the weather is a factor today and I didn't like that stupid reverse call by Daboll but it looks like Delhomme is just off.
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I'm so pissed off right now that I probably shouldn't post, but after that display of ineptitude, Mangini, and his whole staff can get the hell out. What a terrible display of week long game planning, and even worse game day play calling............PATHETIC MANGINI, PATHETIC
I'll probably regret this post tomorrow, but damn it
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well I agree but our o-line is not helping him out any, and our WRs can't get open.. Daboll's playcalling hasn't helped either...
I see your point but how did McCoy have pretty good success with the same receiving corp and Delhomme, who is the vet, can't seem to get it to any of our receivers?
I know the weather is a factor today and I didn't like that stupid reverse call by Daboll but it looks like Delhomme is just off.
I see your point but how did McCoy have pretty good success with the same receiving corp and Delhomme, who is the vet, can't seem to get it to any of our receivers?
I know the weather is a factor today and I didn't like that stupid reverse call by Daboll but it looks like Delhomme is just off.
Word is out...no WR to burn you, Jake is NOT mobile, so blitz. My question is, why wasn't the more mobile Wallace brought in, or more wildcats used? Also, even given the fumbles, why did we desert the run as our primary weapon? Hillis was running well.
The Browns did not play well. It looked like they took this one for granted, & Buffalo came to play.
Mike
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Shouldnt losing be put on everyone who plays and coaches for us rather then one person? I know some are more responsible then others but a loss could come from a certain fumble, missed pass, bad coahcing, etc...
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I'm so pissed off right now that I probably shouldn't post, but after that display of ineptitude, Mangini, and his whole staff can get the hell out. What a terrible display of week long game planning, and even worse game day play calling............PATHETIC MANGINI, PATHETIC
I'll probably regret this post tomorrow, but damn it
I'm so pissed off right now that I probably shouldn't post, but after that display of ineptitude, Mangini, and his whole staff can get the hell out. What a terrible display of week long game planning, and even worse game day play calling............PATHETIC MANGINI, PATHETIC
I'll probably regret this post tomorrow, but damn it
How can you play a QB that looks like he has cement bags on his feet? Honestly, Cribbs at QB the entire game gives the Browns more of a chance to move the football. Losing out gets EM fired.....so his dumbass better bench Jake the mistake.
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Holmgren will be back as GM and not GM/Coach.
Mangini will be back. Mangini's job is safe irregardless of any more wins this year.
I won't be surprised if Colt doesn't start another game this year. They have seen him perform enough to know he's their man or they're going to acquire someone else. I strongly suspect they like what they saw and playing him more this year really isn't necessary.
It's all about seeing who they'll keep and let go at this point for those players still on the bubble, especially on the O-Line and Defense.
The one and only time losing is acceptable is when it involves your virginity.
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