Dan Pompei Says Mangini Will Get Axed
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The coaching change talk is just plain goofy. Look at the sentiment on this Board, about 10-1 to keep Mangini. i talk with Browns fans everyday at work, lunch, evenings, and the ratio is about the same. The only goofballs keeping this talk alive is the national media and, locally, WKNR and some writers at the PD. Who do they represent? What is their agenda? To have a colorful, media friendly HC?
Holmgrem? Gruden? Ryan?
Screw KNR and Mary Kay.
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It doesn't matter what any of us believe.
There is a chance mangini will be fired. You have to look at holmgren. He took over the browns football operation to turn this around. How many times do guys get fired because he is not his guy? Mangini isn't his guy.
It will all come down to if holmgren can live with the difference in football ideals.
It doesn't matter what any of us believe.
There is a chance mangini will be fired. You have to look at holmgren. He took over the browns football operation to turn this around. How many times do guys get fired because he is not his guy? Mangini isn't his guy.
It will all come down to if holmgren can live with the difference in football ideals.
Well....if Holmgren can't adjust, then he can leave. I would rather see Mangini stay and finish the job, then have Holmgren take over as HC.....but that's just me.
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It doesn't matter what any of us believe.
There is a chance mangini will be fired. You have to look at holmgren. He took over the browns football operation to turn this around. How many times do guys get fired because he is not his guy? Mangini isn't his guy.
It will all come down to if holmgren can live with the difference in football ideals.
Well....if Holmgren can't adjust, then he can leave. I would rather see Mangini stay and finish the job, then have Holmgren take over as HC.....but that's just me.
Well....if Holmgren can't adjust, then he can leave. I would rather see Mangini stay and finish the job, then have Holmgren take over as HC.....but that's just me.
For the sake of honesty, I'll feel that way about Mangini when he has some playoff wins under his belt... and maybe a Super Bowl victory. Until then, I'll rank both Holmgren and Chuckie above him as NFL coaches.
I feel good about the progress. I think we're really, really light in the passing game, especially downfield and to WRs. It's a passing league and a QB league and we need to catch up. I don't believe in Daboll on offense as much as I do Mangini on defense.
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Holmgren and my main love gruden are light years above mangini. (Right now)
I don't undestand the faith people have in a un proven guy.. mangini right now reminds me of wayne fontes. Maybe doing just enough to save his job. If he can get to the play offs I will put him with wade philips.
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Holmgren and my main love gruden are light years above mangini. (Right now)
I don't undestand the faith people have in a un proven guy.. mangini right now reminds me of wayne fontes. Maybe doing just enough to save his job. If he can get to the play offs I will put him with wade philips.
Holmgren and my main love gruden are light years above mangini. (Right now)
I don't undestand the faith people have in a un proven guy.. mangini right now reminds me of wayne fontes. Maybe doing just enough to save his job. If he can get to the play offs I will put him with wade philips.
He put pieces in play for the Jets to be contenders in the future - which Ryan is working with right now. He has brought depth and fight to this Browns team that we haven't seen since our return. Unproven? That's ridiculous. He has proven a lot.
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As much as I like where EM has our team headed, I am absolutely beyond frustrated that he continues to start Delhome, over Wallace while Colt heals. It is a pathetic decision and one that reeks of "my guy".........................Every time Delhome drops back, throws a wild side arm pass to a guy who's double covered and then looks over to the bench with that blank, confused look, I lose a lot more respect for EM.
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As much as I like where EM has our team headed, I am absolutely beyond frustrated that he continues to start Delhome, over Wallace while Colt heals. It is a pathetic decision and one that reeks of "my guy".........................Every time Delhome drops back, throws a wild side arm pass to a guy who's double covered and then looks over to the bench with that blank, confused look, I lose a lot more respect for EM.
As much as I like where EM has our team headed, I am absolutely beyond frustrated that he continues to start Delhome, over Wallace while Colt heals. It is a pathetic decision and one that reeks of "my guy".........................Every time Delhome drops back, throws a wild side arm pass to a guy who's double covered and then looks over to the bench with that blank, confused look, I lose a lot more respect for EM.
I 100% agree with you there, I'm getting tired of seeing Delhomme stink it up every week.
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As much as I like where EM has our team headed, I am absolutely beyond frustrated that he continues to start Delhome, over Wallace while Colt heals. It is a pathetic decision and one that reeks of "my guy".........................Every time Delhome drops back, throws a wild side arm pass to a guy who's double covered and then looks over to the bench with that blank, confused look, I lose a lot more respect for EM.
I 100% agree with you there, I'm getting tired of seeing Delhomme stink it up every week.
I 100% agree with you there, I'm getting tired of seeing Delhomme stink it up every week.
well I agree but our o-line is not helping him out any, and our WRs can't get open.. Daboll's playcalling hasn't helped either...
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I 100% agree with you there, I'm getting tired of seeing Delhomme stink it up every week.
well I agree but our o-line is not helping him out any, and our WRs can't get open.. Daboll's playcalling hasn't helped either...
well I agree but our o-line is not helping him out any, and our WRs can't get open.. Daboll's playcalling hasn't helped either...
I see your point but how did McCoy have pretty good success with the same receiving corp and Delhomme, who is the vet, can't seem to get it to any of our receivers?
I know the weather is a factor today and I didn't like that stupid reverse call by Daboll but it looks like Delhomme is just off.
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I'm so pissed off right now that I probably shouldn't post, but after that display of ineptitude, Mangini, and his whole staff can get the hell out. What a terrible display of week long game planning, and even worse game day play calling............PATHETIC MANGINI, PATHETIC
I'll probably regret this post tomorrow, but damn it
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well I agree but our o-line is not helping him out any, and our WRs can't get open.. Daboll's playcalling hasn't helped either...
I see your point but how did McCoy have pretty good success with the same receiving corp and Delhomme, who is the vet, can't seem to get it to any of our receivers?
I know the weather is a factor today and I didn't like that stupid reverse call by Daboll but it looks like Delhomme is just off.
I see your point but how did McCoy have pretty good success with the same receiving corp and Delhomme, who is the vet, can't seem to get it to any of our receivers?
I know the weather is a factor today and I didn't like that stupid reverse call by Daboll but it looks like Delhomme is just off.
Word is out...no WR to burn you, Jake is NOT mobile, so blitz. My question is, why wasn't the more mobile Wallace brought in, or more wildcats used? Also, even given the fumbles, why did we desert the run as our primary weapon? Hillis was running well.
The Browns did not play well. It looked like they took this one for granted, & Buffalo came to play.
Mike
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Shouldnt losing be put on everyone who plays and coaches for us rather then one person? I know some are more responsible then others but a loss could come from a certain fumble, missed pass, bad coahcing, etc...
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I'm so pissed off right now that I probably shouldn't post, but after that display of ineptitude, Mangini, and his whole staff can get the hell out. What a terrible display of week long game planning, and even worse game day play calling............PATHETIC MANGINI, PATHETIC
I'll probably regret this post tomorrow, but damn it
I'm so pissed off right now that I probably shouldn't post, but after that display of ineptitude, Mangini, and his whole staff can get the hell out. What a terrible display of week long game planning, and even worse game day play calling............PATHETIC MANGINI, PATHETIC
I'll probably regret this post tomorrow, but damn it
How can you play a QB that looks like he has cement bags on his feet? Honestly, Cribbs at QB the entire game gives the Browns more of a chance to move the football. Losing out gets EM fired.....so his dumbass better bench Jake the mistake.
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Holmgren will be back as GM and not GM/Coach.
Mangini will be back. Mangini's job is safe irregardless of any more wins this year.
I won't be surprised if Colt doesn't start another game this year. They have seen him perform enough to know he's their man or they're going to acquire someone else. I strongly suspect they like what they saw and playing him more this year really isn't necessary.
It's all about seeing who they'll keep and let go at this point for those players still on the bubble, especially on the O-Line and Defense.
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PS---In a past life, on August 23, 79 a.d. Dan Pompei also predicted there would never be a volcano in the city that carried his family's name.
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Holmgren will be back as GM and not GM/Coach.
Mangini will be back. Mangini's job is safe irregardless of any more wins this year.
I won't be surprised if Colt doesn't start another game this year. They have seen him perform enough to know he's their man or they're going to acquire someone else. I strongly suspect they like what they saw and playing him more this year really isn't necessary.
It's all about seeing who they'll keep and let go at this point for those players still on the bubble, especially on the O-Line and Defense.
Holmgren will be back as GM and not GM/Coach.
Mangini will be back. Mangini's job is safe irregardless of any more wins this year.
I won't be surprised if Colt doesn't start another game this year. They have seen him perform enough to know he's their man or they're going to acquire someone else. I strongly suspect they like what they saw and playing him more this year really isn't necessary.
It's all about seeing who they'll keep and let go at this point for those players still on the bubble, especially on the O-Line and Defense.
No, I'll have to respectfully disagree. If you have an ounce of football IQ, it's painfully obvious Jake is totally, completely washed up. (Hands of stone Royals didn't help him much on a well thrown ball, I have to admit.)
So IF HEALTHY, Colt needs the maximum amount of snaps possible this year- and especially to see how he handles himself in the next three bad weather games. Yeah, it occasionally gets nippy in Texas, and Colt is one tough cowboy- but I (and I'm sure Mike Holmgren) want to see how Colt plays when its 10 degrees out.
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I agree as well. Colt needs to play as soon as he's healthy. We all knew that Jake wasn't the future...unfortunately he really isn't the present either. This team needs to win games heading into a year when we should be able to be competitive for a playoff spot and Colt looks like he's the guy to lead us there.
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I brought up this subject in a previous thread. The issue to me is relatively simple. Two main things ego and offense. Holmgren has a huge ego and wants to be credited with the success of the Browns. We are moving nicley in that direction.
Jake is a trainwreck and McCoy is showing he may be a real find.
Holmgren is an offensive minded persons and Mangini appears to be very much conservative on offense consdering his track record here and elsewhere.
I think Holmgren would love the glory and part of that is having an offensive juggernaut. Mangini has NOT shown he is one to create an offensive juggernaut.
It probably troubles him that Mangini got here first
Mangini has shown he is a competent NFL coach and can motivate his team get them to play well.
SO bottom line if we falter the last three games............Mangini will be gone and we will look for an offensive mind
If we win two it is a push he stays or gets canned
IF we will all three.......he is a lock to stay
My guess is Holmgren is looking for ammunition to replace Mangini
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
I brought up this subject in a previous thread. The issue to me is relatively simple. Two main things ego and offense. Holmgren has a huge ego and wants to be credited with the success of the Browns. We are moving nicley in that direction.
Jake is a trainwreck and McCoy is showing he may be a real find.
Holmgren is an offensive minded persons and Mangini appears to be very much conservative on offense consdering his track record here and elsewhere.
I think Holmgren would love the glory and part of that is having an offensive juggernaut. Mangini has NOT shown he is one to create an offensive juggernaut.
It probably troubles him that Mangini got here first
Mangini has shown he is a competent NFL coach and can motivate his team get them to play well.
SO bottom line if we falter the last three games............Mangini will be gone and we will look for an offensive mind
If we win two it is a push he stays or gets canned
IF we will all three.......he is a lock to stay
My guess is Holmgren is looking for ammunition to replace Mangini
My guess is Holmgren is looking for ammunition to replace Mangini
and if you say gruden i know you and WRREBEL (matt) are gay and sleeping together.
if holmgren fires mangini after the team has shown the progress it has even w/o seeing the results of the last few games, i'll deem him an idiot. what: break everything down and start all over? again? NONSENSE.
only ammunition needed is the clip to cap your ass with.
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I brought up this subject in a previous thread. The issue to me is relatively simple. Two main things ego and offense. Holmgren has a huge ego and wants to be credited with the success of the Browns. We are moving nicley in that direction.
Jake is a trainwreck and McCoy is showing he may be a real find.
Holmgren is an offensive minded persons and Mangini appears to be very much conservative on offense consdering his track record here and elsewhere.
I think Holmgren would love the glory and part of that is having an offensive juggernaut. Mangini has NOT shown he is one to create an offensive juggernaut.
It probably troubles him that Mangini got here first
Mangini has shown he is a competent NFL coach and can motivate his team get them to play well.
SO bottom line if we falter the last three games............Mangini will be gone and we will look for an offensive mind
If we win two it is a push he stays or gets canned
IF we will all three.......he is a lock to stay
My guess is Holmgren is looking for ammunition to replace Mangini
I brought up this subject in a previous thread. The issue to me is relatively simple. Two main things ego and offense. Holmgren has a huge ego and wants to be credited with the success of the Browns. We are moving nicley in that direction.
Jake is a trainwreck and McCoy is showing he may be a real find.
Holmgren is an offensive minded persons and Mangini appears to be very much conservative on offense consdering his track record here and elsewhere.
I think Holmgren would love the glory and part of that is having an offensive juggernaut. Mangini has NOT shown he is one to create an offensive juggernaut.
It probably troubles him that Mangini got here first
Mangini has shown he is a competent NFL coach and can motivate his team get them to play well.
SO bottom line if we falter the last three games............Mangini will be gone and we will look for an offensive mind
If we win two it is a push he stays or gets canned
IF we will all three.......he is a lock to stay
My guess is Holmgren is looking for ammunition to replace Mangini
I agree. Somethings up here.
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