Browns Roster Moves Early
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Good start to turning around a bad situation i must say, as for rogers getting cut its not really unexpected as he cost more than he is worth..
Waiting to hear elam and wrights numbers to be called soon as neither of these guys will fit well into a 4-3 scheme....
As for being 2 or 3 players from a dominant defense under mangini, it wasnt going to happen because by next year we would have had to completely replenish the front 7 regardless, mangini and his old jets had our defense set up for a constant cycle of rebuild..
Im not only glad that bum is gone but i like the tenacity of this regime to take the pain and get it right the first time not the second, third, fourth or fifth..
This rebuild will hopefully be executed professionally unlike mangini's scrub attempt..
We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS! -
*The title should say 'Hope for O-line'. I'm illiterate.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e3...le=HP_headlines
Rogers , Coleman, Barton, Bowens, Royal
Well, we dumped some baggage, good moves. I was hoping we could get rid of StClair and Royal. Cutting Rodgers is a good move too.
While I liked what Bowens did last year and some of Coleman, they were getting to old.
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Good start to turning around a bad situation i must say, as for rogers getting cut its not really unexpected as he cost more than he is worth..
Waiting to hear elam and wrights numbers to be called soon as neither of these guys will fit well into a 4-3 scheme....
As for being 2 or 3 players from a dominant defense under mangini, it wasnt going to happen because by next year we would have had to completely replenish the front 7 regardless, mangini and his old jets had our defense set up for a constant cycle of rebuild..
Im not only glad that bum is gone but i like the tenacity of this regime to take the pain and get it right the first time not the second, third, fourth or fifth..
This rebuild will hopefully be executed professionally unlike mangini's scrub attempt..
mikeyP72 said:
Kenyon Coleman, Eric Barton, St Clair, Royal, David Bowens are either all in the twilight of their career and/or suck.This is not a REBUILD, this is a CLEANSING.
Get ready for a young pass rusher, a FA to stabilize the middle next to Rubin and the movement of Roth or someone to DE.
We must be high on Hankerson in the 2nd round and are most likely going to go DE with the first overall.pick... MAN we could use Fairley....
The draft should go like this:
DE
WR
DT
LB
RT
WR
DE
I'm not against looking at someone like Vincent Jackson and Sidney Rice either. We need major help at critical positions. WR and DE are critical to a teams success.
I like how everyone talks like it is a sure thing the FA like Roth or Gocong will be resigning with the team. There is actually a really good chance that Roth leaves, especially if they say he is being moved to a DE.
Good start to turning around a bad situation i must say, as for rogers getting cut its not really unexpected as he cost more than he is worth..
Waiting to hear elam and wrights numbers to be called soon as neither of these guys will fit well into a 4-3 scheme....
As for being 2 or 3 players from a dominant defense under mangini, it wasnt going to happen because by next year we would have had to completely replenish the front 7 regardless, mangini and his old jets had our defense set up for a constant cycle of rebuild..
Im not only glad that bum is gone but i like the tenacity of this regime to take the pain and get it right the first time not the second, third, fourth or fifth..
This rebuild will hopefully be executed professionally unlike mangini's scrub attempt..
Hoe does a safety and a corner not fit into a 4-3 defense??? The change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 has no nothing to do with the secondary and I would actually expect them to resign at least Elam who finished the second half of the season strong as one of our top defensive play makers. I also wouldn't be surprised if we resigned Wright to a one year deal if no other teams seemed interested in him.
I would just like to point out again that some of these guys, though old and severely declining in talent, were really good people, on the team and in the community. Eric Barton received and award this year for his charity and community service and Bowen was a great example for the younger players showing them what they can accomplish if they never give up (went from being injured and almost cut in training camp to almost single handedly winning the New Orleans game and taking over as a defensive captain at the end of the year). Sad to see good people like these guys leave but we do need younger and better talent at these positions.
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Wow, so in a 4-3, we need more D-linemen than Linebackers
We currently have Robaire Smith (but he might be a FA that we won't resign, don't recall), Rubin, and a bunch of scrubs...
We just cut Coleman and Rogers...
Who's gonna be on our D-Line?
I think round 1 is gonna be a D-lineman
Wow, so in a 4-3, we need more D-linemen than Linebackers
We currently have Robaire Smith (but he might be a FA that we won't resign, don't recall), Rubin, and a bunch of scrubs...
We just cut Coleman and Rogers...
Who's gonna be on our D-Line?
I think round 1 is gonna be a D-lineman
I have thought that all along. The Browns front 7, except for a couple of guys really was not very good. Needless to say with 4 of the 6 guys shown the door being from the defensive front 7, the Browns are gonna need bodies.
Does anyone know the status of D'Qwell Jackson?
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john st clair is gone? THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who does this give the job to? Shaun Lauvao?
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john st clair is gone? THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who does this give the job to? Shaun Lauvao?
Who does this give the job to? Shaun Lauvao?
Didn't he do pretty poorly this year?
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Who does this give the job to? Shaun Lauvao?
Didn't he do pretty poorly this year?
Didn't he do pretty poorly this year?
I think he was injured much of the year.
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All of these are pretty much expected. Let's not forget that most of our linebackers are not suited for a 4/3 either. Maybe a couple of them could fill in at DE until we have better options.
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rogers is definately addition by subtraction.
used to be a dominate interior lineman, now just fat and overpaid.
kinda how i feel about the Steeler's NT hampton.
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I can't beleive peterbell is still on Mangini's nuts.. Barton, bowens, coleman are so old and slow. How un exciting would it be knowing these guys were gonna be on our team?
I can't beleive peterbell is still on Mangini's nuts.
Really?......weren't you the one all over Gruden's nuts? Did he ever coach here? So now your complaining?.........get real!! Can you say NO CREDIBILITY? You should put it at the bottom of everything you post.
“It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.” -
Still what concerns me about giving up so many d personal is that at the #6 pick its probally going to come down to Robert Quinn or Marcell Dareus and to me there both not that elite NFL player thats gonna come in sure they both displayed great athletism and raw Talent but Robert Quinn hasnt played in a full season and im a firm believer that Marvin Austin will have the better NFL Career, Marcell Dareus went from Roating and had 11 sacks to starting and had 2 sacks the whole season,many claim he gave up on alot of plays and wasnt there (Rodgers??) so yeah thats who will probaly need up getting just because will have to draft on need alone instead of BPA
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I'm glad that every topic I post gets deleted and someone else put one up and I don't get credited for it, especially if I'm the first to report it.
You did report it first. Let it be known that jasont44094 gets the credit for this.
However, your post had no link or true credibility yet, hence why a new topic was created with a link from a reliable source. Its not personal.
You did report it first. Let it be known that jasont44094 gets the credit for this.
However, your post had no link or true credibility yet, hence why a new topic was created with a link from a reliable source. Its not personal.
Or you could have merged his thread with yours. Another idea would have been to simply add the link to his post.
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You did report it first. Let it be known that jasont44094 gets the credit for this.
However, your post had no link or true credibility yet, hence why a new topic was created with a link from a reliable source. Its not personal.
Or you could have merged his thread with yours. Another idea would have been to simply add the link to his post.
Or you could have merged his thread with yours. Another idea would have been to simply add the link to his post.
An even better idea, would be to move on and forget something so dumb!
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You did report it first. Let it be known that jasont44094 gets the credit for this.
However, your post had no link or true credibility yet, hence why a new topic was created with a link from a reliable source. Its not personal.
Or you could have merged his thread with yours. Another idea would have been to simply add the link to his post.
Or you could have merged his thread with yours. Another idea would have been to simply add the link to his post.
I thought about that but his topic was a question of the roster move, not that the roster move had happened, so the formatting would have looked awkward to the average poster.
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I'm glad that every topic I post gets deleted and someone else put one up and I don't get credited for it, especially if I'm the first to report it.
I'm glad that every topic I post gets deleted and someone else put one up and I don't get credited for it, especially if I'm the first to report it.
Why would you want credit? Who are you trying to impress?
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The Browns are NOT going to draft Fairley. They WILL draft a RT, probably third round, to take his place,
and be a superior improvement at the RT position.
FA should be pretty interesting. And, I still really like my mock draft, except that it's probably all wrong. @@
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john st clair is gone? THANK GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who does this give the job to? Shaun Lauvao?
Who does this give the job to? Shaun Lauvao?
i'm not sure. i remember lavao playing pretty well before the injury, but mangini seemed hell bent on playing st clair. not sure why lol.
i can't remember how long lav was out, but if healthy he would've been a better option than matador st clair. see what the young guy has. let him learn and grow. no use in trying to teach an old st clair new tricks.
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Wow, so in a 4-3, we need more D-linemen than Linebackers
We currently have Robaire Smith (but he might be a FA that we won't resign, don't recall), Rubin, and a bunch of scrubs...
We just cut Coleman and Rogers...
Who's gonna be on our D-Line?
I think round 1 is gonna be a D-lineman
I have thought that all along. The Browns front 7, except for a couple of guys really was not very good. Needless to say with 4 of the 6 guys shown the door being from the defensive front 7, the Browns are gonna need bodies.
Does anyone know the status of D'Qwell Jackson?
Does anyone know the status of D'Qwell Jackson?[/color]
isn't he a fa along with elam and e wright?
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Really?......weren't you the one all over Gruden's nuts? Did he ever coach here? So now your complaining?.........get real!! Can you say NO CREDIBILITY? You should put it at the bottom of everything you post.
Yes I pimped chucky for a while, but have moved on... Mangini was phil savage esc in handling the browns. The draft was horrible, except for alex mack. You would think with 3 second rd picks we would have some young talent...
htownbrown has NO CREDIBILITY
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