Odds of winning the 2011 season Super Bowl
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Heath Miller is overrated...Watson has better hands and is hands down a better TE..And Watson has better speed.....Watson had a damn fine season for us...Heath Miller has help from Ben...Watson had help from basically nobody...
You're an idiot. There is absolutely nothing overrated about Heath Miller. Steeler or not he gets it done in all facets and sh.its all over Ben Watson and Ben Watson does not have better hands. And he sure as sh.it doesn't block like Heath Miller. Most TE's don't. He's the most complete TE in the NFL. If anything he's UNDERRATED.
Homotron said:
You're an idiot. There is absolutely nothing overrated about Heath Miller. Steeler or not he gets it done in all facets and sh.its all over Ben Watson and Ben Watson does not have better hands. And he sure as sh.it doesn't block like Heath Miller. Most TE's don't. He's the most complete TE in the NFL. If anything he's UNDERRATED.yeah keep crying you little steeler faggot...I never said Miller was bad...I just said overrated when theres better TE's out there...And you're the idiot cuz your still here trying to justify your existence at every turn...get a life steeler fag.
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Zombo wrote that Otto Graham had 7 rings then 8 rings. Are there any pictures of these rings. What kind were they?
I guess no one had a camera back in the day.
Zombo wrote that Otto Graham had 7 rings then 8 rings. Are there any pictures of these rings. What kind were they?
I guess no one had a camera back in the day.
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And if there isn't one you make sure to turn it into one...
Please. I almost never bring up the Steelers unless brought up previously and when I do it's in intelligent discussion and not meant to be a "rub in the face moment" Try reading the threads before my involvement and then reevaluate your moronic comment above.
Homotron said:
Please. I almost never bring up the Steelers unless brought up previously and when I do it's in intelligent discussion and not meant to be a "rub in the face moment" Try reading the threads before my involvement and then reevaluate your moronic comment above.LOL.
Im not catholic but I would say you need to go to confession and say a couple dozen hail marys for all that B.S.
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In my opinion the Steelers odds will greatly hinge on whether or not LeBeau decides to come back as your DC or if he decides to retire.
He's coming back and if he doesn't they have Keith Butler immediately behind him. I'm pretty sure Lebeau has already stated he's not retiring because he's having too much fun with the current group.
Homotron said:
He's coming back and if he doesn't they have Keith Butler immediately behind him. I'm pretty sure Lebeau has already stated he's not retiring because he's having too much fun with the current group.OK. I just know there was some speculation on national radio/TV that this Super Bowl may have been his last game.
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otto Graham has 7 rings? Where did he get them? Are they plastic rings that come in cracker jack boxes?
Can you please post a picture of otto's rings.
Thank you and I will pray that you stop obsessing about the steelers.
Zombo said:
Ben has a fat head and a career SB rating of 64. He has two rings because of Dick LeBeau and the Steeler defense.Zombo
--Otto Graham had 7 rings and never raped a soul.
otto Graham has 7 rings? Where did he get them? Are they plastic rings that come in cracker jack boxes?
Can you please post a picture of otto's rings.
Thank you and I will pray that you stop obsessing about the steelers.
Why are you obsessing about the Browns.
Otto Graham got 7 rings from winning Championships.
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Zombo, thank you for admitting that you have no idea where the rings are.
Unless Ben sold his he should still have his rings. (yes there are pictures)
I will pray that you get over your bitterness and hope you win a Super Bowl soon, or at least show up. you'll have to win the AFC North first (just a heads up)
Thank you.
Zombo, thank you for admitting that you have no idea where the rings are.
Unless Ben sold his he should still have his rings. (yes there are pictures)
I will pray that you get over your bitterness and hope you win a Super Bowl soon, or at least show up. you'll have to win the AFC North first (just a heads up)
Thank you.
Why should anyone know where an athlete keeps his championship rings? Do you know where the rings are for everyone who played on the 70s Steeler teams? Hell, Super Bowl rings get bought and sold all the time.
Here is a link to an article showing that the Pawn Shop in Vegas of Pawn Stars fame has SB Rings from as recently as the Patriots title wins:
http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patrio...annel-show.html
So, until and unless you can account for every ring won by a member of the Steelers, STFU.
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Zombo wrote that Otto Graham had 7 rings then 8 rings. Are there any pictures of these rings. What kind were they?
I guess no one had a camera back in the day.
Zombo wrote that Otto Graham had 7 rings then 8 rings. Are there any pictures of these rings. What kind were they?
I guess no one had a camera back in the day.
The pictures are up your ass, why don't you look there. That is usually where your head is anyways. When you are there, here is what you may find:
1950 Browns NFL Championship Ring
1955 Browns NFL Championship Ring.
If you want any more, just dig further up your ass.
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Homotron said:
Please. I almost never bring up the Steelers unless brought up previously and when I do it's in intelligent discussion and not meant to be a "rub in the face moment" Try reading the threads before my involvement and then reevaluate your moronic comment above.LOL.
Im not catholic but I would say you need to go to confession and say a couple dozen hail marys for all that B.S.
LOL.
Im not catholic but I would say you need to go to confession and say a couple dozen hail marys for all that B.S.
Do you want to bet on it? I don't believe I've EVER started a thread here for one and when I mention the Steelers the Steelers have already been brought up. I know you won't take the time to go back through my posts. I'm not here to troll and only get involved in the sh.it storm when the sh.it storm is already in full swing/and or brought to my door step. If I do happen to mention anything Steeler without it being provoked it's in intelligent discussion which at some point brings out the trolls.
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LOL.
Im not catholic but I would say you need to go to confession and say a couple dozen hail marys for all that B.S.
Do you want to bet on it? I don't believe I've EVER started a thread here for one and when I mention the Steelers the Steelers have already been brought up. I know you won't take the time to go back through my posts. I'm not here to troll and only get involved in the sh.it storm when the sh.it storm is already in full swing/and or brought to my door step. If I do happen to mention anything Steeler without it being provoked it's in intelligent discussion which at some point brings out the trolls.
Homotron said:
Do you want to bet on it? I don't believe I've EVER started a thread here for one and when I mention the Steelers the Steelers have already been brought up. I know you won't take the time to go back through my posts. I'm not here to troll and only get involved in the sh.it storm when the sh.it storm is already in full swing/and or brought to my door step. If I do happen to mention anything Steeler without it being provoked it's in intelligent discussion which at some point brings out the trolls.Yeah sure whatever, I believe you.
maybe just maybe that's why your name is homotron and your signature puts the cherry on it.
Btw,who brought any thing to your door step? Does someone put a gun on you forcing you to reply?
If not then every thing you just said is typical fag talk.
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Homotron said:
Do you want to bet on it? I don't believe I've EVER started a thread here for one and when I mention the Steelers the Steelers have already been brought up. I know you won't take the time to go back through my posts. I'm not here to troll and only get involved in the sh.it storm when the sh.it storm is already in full swing/and or brought to my door step. If I do happen to mention anything Steeler without it being provoked it's in intelligent discussion which at some point brings out the trolls.Yeah sure whatever, I believe you.
maybe just maybe that's why your name is homotron and your signature puts the cherry on it.
Btw,who brought any thing to your door step? Does someone put a gun on you forcing you to reply?
If not then every thing you just said is typical fag talk.
Yeah sure whatever, I believe you.
maybe just maybe that's why your name is homotron and your signature puts the cherry on it.
Btw,who brought any thing to your door step? Does someone put a gun on you forcing you to reply?
If not then every thing you just said is typical fag talk.
My name was changed so I posted the Snatch98 part and the last part was/is a constant reminder anytime someone wants to get cute and trash on Pittsburgh. Good news though, the new Forbes list only has 3 or 4 Ohio cities on the hook. I believe Canton was removed. As far as the latter is concerned no there isn't a gun to my head but I'm argumentative and when I am trying to have a legit conversation the scope is usually changed in minutes when a mouth breather shows up and pops off. I also live in Western PA, starting the Steeler hate threads bring things to "my doorstep" despite this being a Cleveland message board. I did a good portion of the last 10 year in or around Ohio. Lived near Cleveland for 5 and Columbus for 2. Some of my greatest friends are Browns diehards and I love it when you ladies get all butt hurt over my involvement.
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Zombo said:
How could you not? He let his team and city down by missing four games for immature boorish behaviour and then threw two interceptions in the Super Bowl, and then STILL had an opportunity to lead his team down the field for the win and crapped his pants.Yes, "Leader" is the one word everyone associates with Ben.
Zombo
I wonder why he didn't call Shittsburgh's remaining timeout on that final drive? The offense was in disarray, confused and getting beat down. A true leader realizes that that is when you call a timeout. It's your last down in the Superbowl.
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mikeyP72 said:
Regardless of your motives, you and your own group of mouth-breathers continually degrading every single on of our posts, makes me read this board less and less. Congrats I guess. How's the SB loss feeling?And Heath Miller being the best TE in the game is COMICAL. Dallas Clark, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Zach Miller, Dustin Keller, Kellen Winslow, Visanthe Schiancoe, etc. I would take all of them in a heartbeat over Miller. Your homer blinders are just as bad as anyone else you ridicule for the same thing.
First off try reading. I never said he's the best TE in the game. I said he's ONE OF THE BEST and easily the most complete TE in the game. As far as the former is concerned please find somewhere on this message board where I've blatantly degraded anything that wasn't previously provoked. I'd say it's the other way around and it's those posts that start the drama. If you're looking to place blame, place it on some of your own, yourself included for starting the almost routine sh.it storm on this message board. I came here to play nice a few years ago and have played nice plenty of times. Unfortunately there really are mouth breathers in the Brown and Orange that continually make threads something that they aren't or shouldn't be. Once again read you xxxxing idiot. I also think that it's HILARIOUS that you included Dustin Keller, Kellen Winslow and Shiancoe as being above Miller. Just a FYI TE's are supposed to be able to block and CATCH the ball. A lot of TE's in the league don't do both but guess who DOES!?!??!?!
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
mikeyP72 said:
Regardless of your motives, you and your own group of mouth-breathers continually degrading every single on of our posts, makes me read this board less and less. Congrats I guess. How's the SB loss feeling?And Heath Miller being the best TE in the game is COMICAL. Dallas Clark, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Zach Miller, Dustin Keller, Kellen Winslow, Visanthe Schiancoe, etc. I would take all of them in a heartbeat over Miller. Your homer blinders are just as bad as anyone else you ridicule for the same thing.
First off try reading. I never said he's the best TE in the game. I said he's ONE OF THE BEST and easily the most complete TE in the game. As far as the former is concerned please find somewhere on this message board where I've blatantly degraded anything that wasn't previously provoked. I'd say it's the other way around and it's those posts that start the drama. If you're looking to place blame, place it on some of your own, yourself included for starting the almost routine sh.it storm on this message board. I came here to play nice a few years ago and have played nice plenty of times. Unfortunately there really are mouth breathers in the Brown and Orange that continually make threads something that they aren't or shouldn't be. Once again read you xxxxing idiot. I also think that it's HILARIOUS that you included Dustin Keller, Kellen Winslow and Shiancoe as being above Miller. Just a FYI TE's are supposed to be able to block and CATCH the ball. A lot of TE's in the league don't do both but guess who DOES!?!??!?!
Homotron said:
Just a FYI TE's are supposed to be able to block and CATCH the ball. A lot of TE's in the league don't do both but guess who DOES!?!??!?!I know where you are coming from but this really isn't very true in today's NFL.
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Homotron said:
Just a FYI TE's are supposed to be able to block and CATCH the ball. A lot of TE's in the league don't do both but guess who DOES!?!??!?!I know where you are coming from but this really isn't very true in today's NFL.
I know where you are coming from but this really isn't very true in today's NFL.
Of course it is, there are just a lot of TE's in the NFL that don't block or can't block. Every TE in the league is asked to block at one time or another so while I agree that it isn't very true. It does place a premium on TE's that can get open and catch passes and block when they're asked too.
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@slurp-and-burp said:
The Super Bowl loss is not a big deal to Steeler Nation. We are 6-2 in Super Bowl games and our team made it to the biggest game on earth again. The Browns have never been good enough to even set foot on the field that we regularly show up in and win not to mention getting your asses handed to you year after year by the Steelers.Maybe the NFL should never have invited the Browns to join the NFL. I would vote for the Lions and Browns to be kicked out of the NFL for poor performance and being a waste of space.
Seriously, ban this xxxxing in bread dipshit. He adds nothing to any conversations.
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mikeyP72 said:
Regardless of your motives, you and your own group of mouth-breathers continually degrading every single on of our posts, makes me read this board less and less. Congrats I guess. How's the SB loss feeling?And Heath Miller being the best TE in the game is COMICAL. Dallas Clark, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Zach Miller, Dustin Keller, Kellen Winslow, Visanthe Schiancoe, etc. I would take all of them in a heartbeat over Miller. Your homer blinders are just as bad as anyone else you ridicule for the same thing.
First off try reading. I never said he's the best TE in the game. I said he's ONE OF THE BEST and easily the most complete TE in the game. As far as the former is concerned please find somewhere on this message board where I've blatantly degraded anything that wasn't previously provoked. I'd say it's the other way around and it's those posts that start the drama. If you're looking to place blame, place it on some of your own, yourself included for starting the almost routine sh.it storm on this message board. I came here to play nice a few years ago and have played nice plenty of times. Unfortunately there really are mouth breathers in the Brown and Orange that continually make threads something that they aren't or shouldn't be. Once again read you xxxxing idiot. I also think that it's HILARIOUS that you included Dustin Keller, Kellen Winslow and Shiancoe as being above Miller. Just a FYI TE's are supposed to be able to block and CATCH the ball. A lot of TE's in the league don't do both but guess who DOES!?!??!?!
Homotron said:
First off try reading. I never said he's the best TE in the game. I said he's ONE OF THE BEST and easily the most complete TE in the game. As far as the former is concerned please find somewhere on this message board where I've blatantly degraded anything that wasn't previously provoked. I'd say it's the other way around and it's those posts that start the drama. If you're looking to place blame, place it on some of your own, yourself included for starting the almost routine sh.it storm on this message board. I came here to play nice a few years ago and have played nice plenty of times. Unfortunately there really are mouth breathers in the Brown and Orange that continually make threads something that they aren't or shouldn't be. Once again read you xxxxing idiot. I also think that it's HILARIOUS that you included Dustin Keller, Kellen Winslow and Shiancoe as being above Miller. Just a FYI TE's are supposed to be able to block and CATCH the ball. A lot of TE's in the league don't do both but guess who DOES!?!??!?!A guy on another thread stated that in the last 10 pages of this board there were maybe 2 threads that could be called "Steeler Hate threads".
And look at the title of this thread....that I started. It was about the odds that Vegas gave to every team to win the Super Bowl.
And just how did that subject matter degrade into another Steeler troll inferiority complex rant?
Because you and your ilk cannot stand a little honest criticism of your team, you can't stand that not everyoned doesn't suck steeler dick, you can't stand that anyone would disparage any player on that team. Is it because Vegas only listed them as 8-1 and not the favorite? That is paranoia, or worse.
You cannot stand that someone might actually have the opinion say that Heath Miller is in fact the 4th best TE in the AFCN.
A perfectly plausible viewpoint that Todd Heap, Ben Watson, and the Gresham kid from Cinci are all better than Miller is to you a call to arms to battle evil dragons.
And you know what.....it IS a perfectly plausible viewpoint that Heap, Watson, and Gresham are all better than Miller.
Now choke on that.
If you don't like that opinion, so what? Cry to your momma. She is the only one you are going to get any sympathy from.
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Heres a sobering factoid for Homotard: Miller replaced someone because he wasnt good enough to get voted in....It was his first trip and first Stooler tight end in the Pro Bowl since Eric Green...LOL!
http://www.steelersgab.com/2010/01/26/te-h...n-the-pro-bowl/
TE Heath Miller Taking Colts Dallas Clark’s Place in the Pro Bowl
January 26th, 2010 Matt Loede Posted in News
Heath Miller will be a Pro Bowl TE for the first time as he’ll take the spot of Colts TE Dallas Clark this Sunday:
Steelers tight end Heath Miller will be named to his first Pro Bowl, replacing the Indianapolis Colts’ Dallas Clark, the Steelers announced Sunday. Clark, who led AFC tight ends in the voting, must forfeit his spot in the Pro Bowl because the Colts will be in Super Bowl XLIV. Miller, the Steelers’ first-round draft choice in 2005, will be the team’s first tight end to play in the Pro Bowl since Eric Green in 1994 and only the fourth in franchise history, joining Elbie Nickel (three berths) and Preston Carpenter.
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
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Homotron said:
First off try reading. I never said he's the best TE in the game. I said he's ONE OF THE BEST and easily the most complete TE in the game. As far as the former is concerned please find somewhere on this message board where I've blatantly degraded anything that wasn't previously provoked. I'd say it's the other way around and it's those posts that start the drama. If you're looking to place blame, place it on some of your own, yourself included for starting the almost routine sh.it storm on this message board. I came here to play nice a few years ago and have played nice plenty of times. Unfortunately there really are mouth breathers in the Brown and Orange that continually make threads something that they aren't or shouldn't be. Once again read you xxxxing idiot. I also think that it's HILARIOUS that you included Dustin Keller, Kellen Winslow and Shiancoe as being above Miller. Just a FYI TE's are supposed to be able to block and CATCH the ball. A lot of TE's in the league don't do both but guess who DOES!?!??!?!A guy on another thread stated that in the last 10 pages of this board there were maybe 2 threads that could be called "Steeler Hate threads".
And look at the title of this thread....that I started. It was about the odds that Vegas gave to every team to win the Super Bowl.
And just how did that subject matter degrade into another Steeler troll inferiority complex rant?
Because you and your ilk cannot stand a little honest criticism of your team, you can't stand that not everyoned doesn't suck steeler dick, you can't stand that anyone would disparage any player on that team. Is it because Vegas only listed them as 8-1 and not the favorite? That is paranoia, or worse.
You cannot stand that someone might actually have the opinion say that Heath Miller is in fact the 4th best TE in the AFCN.
A perfectly plausible viewpoint that Todd Heap, Ben Watson, and the Gresham kid from Cinci are all better than Miller is to you a call to arms to battle evil dragons.
And you know what.....it IS a perfectly plausible viewpoint that Heap, Watson, and Gresham are all better than Miller.
Now choke on that.
If you don't like that opinion, so what? Cry to your momma. She is the only one you are going to get any sympathy from.
A guy on another thread stated that in the last 10 pages of this board there were maybe 2 threads that could be called "Steeler Hate threads".
And look at the title of this thread....that I started. It was about the odds that Vegas gave to every team to win the Super Bowl.
And just how did that subject matter degrade into another Steeler troll inferiority complex rant?
Because you and your ilk cannot stand a little honest criticism of your team, you can't stand that not everyoned doesn't suck steeler dick, you can't stand that anyone would disparage any player on that team. Is it because Vegas only listed them as 8-1 and not the favorite? That is paranoia, or worse.
You cannot stand that someone might actually have the opinion say that Heath Miller is in fact the 4th best TE in the AFCN.
A perfectly plausible viewpoint that Todd Heap, Ben Watson, and the Gresham kid from Cinci are all better than Miller is to you a call to arms to battle evil dragons.
And you know what.....it IS a perfectly plausible viewpoint that Heap, Watson, and Gresham are all better than Miller.
Now choke on that.
If you don't like that opinion, so what? Cry to your momma. She is the only one you are going to get any sympathy from.
Who said anything about sympathy? I sure as hell didn't nor have I ever asked for it. I also didn't turn this thread in to anything nor do I feel I should be aligned with some of the more obvious Steeler trolls. Ben Watson is the 4th best TE in the division. Period. His numbers were inflated this season because he was the ONLY decent passing option for a ROOKIE QB.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Heres a sobering factoid for Homotard: Miller replaced someone because he wasnt good enough to get voted in....It was his first trip and first Stooler tight end in the Pro Bowl since Eric Green...LOL!
http://www.steelersgab.com/2010/01/26/te-h...n-the-pro-bowl/
TE Heath Miller Taking Colts Dallas Clark’s Place in the Pro Bowl
January 26th, 2010 Matt Loede Posted in News
Heath Miller will be a Pro Bowl TE for the first time as he’ll take the spot of Colts TE Dallas Clark this Sunday:
Steelers tight end Heath Miller will be named to his first Pro Bowl, replacing the Indianapolis Colts’ Dallas Clark, the Steelers announced Sunday. Clark, who led AFC tight ends in the voting, must forfeit his spot in the Pro Bowl because the Colts will be in Super Bowl XLIV. Miller, the Steelers’ first-round draft choice in 2005, will be the team’s first tight end to play in the Pro Bowl since Eric Green in 1994 and only the fourth in franchise history, joining Elbie Nickel (three berths) and Preston Carpenter.
Heres a sobering factoid for Homotard: Miller replaced someone because he wasnt good enough to get voted in....It was his first trip and first Stooler tight end in the Pro Bowl since Eric Green...LOL!
http://www.steelersgab.com/2010/01/26/te-h...n-the-pro-bowl/
TE Heath Miller Taking Colts Dallas Clark’s Place in the Pro Bowl
January 26th, 2010 Matt Loede Posted in News
Heath Miller will be a Pro Bowl TE for the first time as he’ll take the spot of Colts TE Dallas Clark this Sunday:
Steelers tight end Heath Miller will be named to his first Pro Bowl, replacing the Indianapolis Colts’ Dallas Clark, the Steelers announced Sunday. Clark, who led AFC tight ends in the voting, must forfeit his spot in the Pro Bowl because the Colts will be in Super Bowl XLIV. Miller, the Steelers’ first-round draft choice in 2005, will be the team’s first tight end to play in the Pro Bowl since Eric Green in 1994 and only the fourth in franchise history, joining Elbie Nickel (three berths) and Preston Carpenter.
Hey numb nuts I've already alluded to the fact that Miller doesn't put up huge numbers because of the way our offense operates. It doesn't mean he's not capable. He's the most complete TE in the league, the Steelers just don't use TE's in the same capacity as other teams. He put up more pass heavy numbers in 09. Eric Green mentioned in this same article was the last te even used in a more pass heavy capacity. Put the guy on a TE pass heavy team and he puts up monster numbers every year. He can also block like a lineman and is easily one the highest character guys in the league. I guess you can't read. The article also shows just how few have made the pro bowl from the TE position on the Steelers. All of which directly points to my "style of offense" statement. I don't think anyone in Pittsburgh or on the Steelers cares if he makes the pro bowl. We make Super Bowls because of players like Heath Miller. You can have the Pro Bowl lol. Our guys usually don't play when nominated anyway. They have more important games to play.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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